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patrocles · 2 years ago
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I’ve been thinking about Jacaerys Velaryon who, admittedly, is not a character I gave much thought about beyond “a good lad who worked hard at diplomacy and died young.” A lot of characters in Fire & Blood don’t receive a lot of characterization outside of what actions they do, and Jace does a lot! The Sowing of the Dragonseed, rounding up allies, the Pact of Ice and Fire. But that tells me next to nothing about his actual personality.
But I think how he’s positioned in his family and the narrative does provide some unique space for characterization and personality should the writers choose to.
We’ve already established that he knows that he’s a bastard and this seems to be something he’s deeply insecure about (and not for no reason!) Not only is there social stigma, but his life is at risk for purely existing. And this isn’t a situation like Jon where he’s oppressed purely in that regard. Because of the position Rhaenyra put him in, he has to keep up with appearances, KNOWING it’s a lie in the eyes of the law, knowing other people know it’s a lie in the eyes of the law, but having to play the role because admitting the truth means he, his mother, and siblings’ lives are all at risk.
And so I have to wonder how this affects his relationship with Rhaenyra because that is a lot of stress to put on a child. He becomes this great diplomat, but I have to wonder if it’s because he purely believes in his mother and his own claim, or because the alternative is death. Regardless of how justified and understandable Rhaenyra’s choices were regarding having children with Harwin, it doesn’t negate that it’s those children that will have to face the brunt of those consequences. But what’s incredibly fascinating about their relationship is that Jace is now paralleled with his mother, she’s essentially recreated the same struggles in Jace that she herself struggled with. Only where he isn’t conflict with his gender and its relationship with succession, Jace is in conflict with the blood legitimacy and legalities. It doesn’t matter that he’s Rhaenyra’s biological child
the big capital T Theme of house of the dragon is children having to bear the responsabilities of their parents’ mistakes and inactions and the cycle repeating over and over. The position Rhaenyra struggled with being Viserys’ heir, but Viserys remarrying and having more (male) children is the exact position Jace is in now. He is Rhaenyra’s heir, but immediately after Laenor’s “death” she marries Daemon and quickly has more children who have a more technically legitimate claim than Jace. And because Jace know’s he’s a bastard, he knows the gravity of the position Rhaenyra has put him and his brothers in.
It’s been established how Daemon feels about his valyrian/targaryen heritage. If Rhaena, his own daughter, feels neglected by him because she isnt a dragonrider, imagine how he must feel about Jace, Luke, and Joffrey. You have to wonder how aware Jace is about this and Daemon’s ambition about a Pure Valyrian Dynasty. Rhaenyra can reassure him in private all she wants about how his anxieties and worries dont matter, she’s his son etc etc but that isn’t the situation they’re all in. It’s not unlike Viserys naming Rhaenyra his heir but only reassuring her in private over the years that he’s totally not going to cast her aside, but doing nothing to reassure the general public who’ve been allowed to assume otherwise since Aegon was born.
Does Jace have the same Replacement Feelings with Aegon the Younger as Rhaenyra had with Aegon the Elder who’s literally the same age difference as his mother was with her new brother?
and so that brings us to Sara Snow. i will say, at first i wasn’t sure if she would be included in the show, it doesn’t seem likely that she even existed. the accounts in fire and blood dont agree with mushroom that she existed at all, much less that Jace would betray Baela for her. But i will say, this wouldn’t be a bad addition especially given the context of what we know about Jace so far. This cant be substantiated, but theres a rumor that Jace and Baela don’t have the best relationship and i can see where there may be some conflict there (if she’s being raised as the heir to Driftmark, if she has feelings about Jace, Luke, and Joff being bastards — which i know she didnt know in the book but it seems to be obvious to everyone in the show).
But if Jace goes to Winterfell and meets Sara, a girl who is a bastard and is someone that he can connect with and least befriend and help cope with his feelings about his identity, i think that could be really interesting! In a not dissimilar way with Aemond having strong bias against bastardy but still falling in love with Alys Rivers and having a bastard of his own, i think that would be an interesting take for Jace to fall in love with a girl who’s the most Like Him than he’s met so far. i have to wonder if she could be the first person that he’s been able to talk to about the stress he’s under because he certainly wouldn’t be able to at home. would there be temptation to just stay? accept his bastardy and give it all up and choose his own happiness? love is the death of duty, etc.
So yeah, mostly I just want Jace to have complexity and personality
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kellyvela · 5 years ago
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THE WOLF THAT SLEW THE DRAGON
The other day I made this little post:
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Here is Jon Snow killing his aunt to protect Sansa… Oh I’m sorry, this is Saint George killing the dragon to protect a redhead princess. In some versions of the tale Saint George marries the princess… [x]
I did it as a little funny post really, after reading some very bad takes about Targaryen dragons... But after just a small research the last couple of days the things I found are really amazing. Let’s see:  
I already knew about the Legend of Saint George - the Dragon Slayer, and even asked @sansaastark​ to photoshop GRRM’s head on Saint George’s body:
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But who was this man, Saint George - the Dragon Slayer? Does he really influenced GRRM?
Saint George was a Roman soldier that was martyred and beheaded following the Emperor orders, after refusing to participate in the persecution of christians because he was a christian himself. 
This part of Saint George’s life reminds me of the Faith of the Seven versus the Old Gods in ASOIAF.  It also makes me think about Jon Snow refusing to abandon the Wildlings and allowing them to cross the Wall, against the ancient law of the Night’s Watch.
Saint George ascended quickly in the Roman Army and became a member of the Praetorian Guard, whose members served as personal bodyguards and intelligence for the Roman emperors, something like the Kingsguard.  
This reminds me of a very young Jon Snow becoming the Lord Commander of the Night’s Watch, you know: “the shield that guards the realms of men”. Also according Fire & Blood: “Visenya modeled their vows (Kingsguard’s vows) on those of the Night’s Watch; like the black-cloaked crows of the Wall, the White Swords served for life, surrendering all their lands, titles, and worldly goods to live a life of chastity and obedience, with no reward but honor.”
But the most famous part of Saint George’s story is the legend that says he slew a dragon:
In the well-known version from Jacobus da Varagine's Legenda aurea (The Golden Legend, 1260s), the narrative episode of Saint George and the Dragon took place somewhere he called "Silene", in Libya.
Silene in Libya was plagued by a venom-spewing dragon dwelling in a nearby pond, poisoning the countryside. To prevent it from affecting the city itself, the people offered it two sheep daily, then a man and a sheep, and finally their children and youths, chosen by lottery. One time the lot fell on the king's daughter. The king offered all his gold and silver to have his daughter spared; the people refused. The daughter was sent out to the lake, dressed as a bride, to be fed to the dragon.
Saint George by chance arrived at the spot. The princess tried to send him away, but he vowed to remain. The dragon emerged from the pond while they were conversing. Saint George made the Sign of the Cross and charged it on horseback, seriously wounding it with his lance. He then called to the princess to throw him her girdle (zona), and he put it around the dragon's neck. When she did so, the dragon followed the girl like a "meek beast" on a leash.
The princess and Saint George led the dragon back to the city of Silene, where it terrified the populace. Saint George offered to kill the dragon if they consented to become Christians and be baptized. Fifteen thousand men including the king of Silene converted to Christianity. George then killed the dragon, beheading it with his sword, and the body was carted out of the city on four ox-carts. The king built a church to the Blessed Virgin Mary and Saint George on the site where the dragon died and a spring flowed from its altar with water that cured all disease. Only the Latin version involves the saint striking the dragon with the spear, before killing it with the sword.
The Golden Legend narrative is the main source of the story of Saint George and the Dragon as received in Western Europe, and is therefore relevant for Saint George as patron saint of England. The princess remains unnamed in the Golden Legend version, and the name "Sabra" is supplied by Elizabethan era writer Richard Johnson in his Seven Champions of Christendom (1596). In the work, she is recast as a princess of Egypt. This work takes great liberties with the material, and makes St. George marry Sabra, and have English children, one of whom becomes Guy of Warwick. Alternative names given to the princess in Italian sources still of the 13th century are Cleolinda and Aia.
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You can read various versions of the Legend of Saint George and the Dragon here. 
It’s very interesting that between the names given to the princess of the legend are Sabra and Aia, names that sound pretty much like the names of the Stark sisters: Sansa and Arya.  
It’s also pretty interesting that the princess was ‘sent out to the lake, dressed as a bride, to be fed to the dragon’. This bit remains me very much of Sansa who is strongly linked with marriage in ASOIAF.   
Researching about the princess of the story, I found a very cute version of the legend in a web specialized in children’s audio-books. Here is the part about the princess: 
Then one day, the name of the princess was shaken out of the urn. According to the King’s own law, his daughter must be sacrificed. He called the people together and offered them gold and treasure if only they would agree to spare her from the dragon. The judges who oversaw the lottery said that it must be completely fair, or else the people would no longer accept it. And so, much saddened, the king said to the princess, “My dear, I shall never see your wedding day.”
A week went past, and the day arrived when she must meet her fate. The palace servants dressed her in her wedding gown and placed a crown of flowers on her head. They led her out of the city in a procession, and headed for the lake where the dragon lived.
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The King’s lament and the princess dressed her in her wedding gown with a crown of flowers on her head sounds as if the princess was about to marry the dragon. This bit sounds very much like Jenny of Oldstones, Lyanna and Sansa Stark... And take note that the first two actually had a romance with a Targaryen man, you know, a dragon...    
This description of the princess, wearing her wedding gown with a crown of flowers in her head, has been depicted by Edward Burne-Jones in the paintings of his Series “The Legend of St George and the Dragon”:
Princess Sabra Drawing the Lot:
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The Princess Sabra Led to the Dragon: 
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The Princess Tied to the Tree: 
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Where do I see those long sleeves before? Oh yeah in Sansa’s costumes on the Show and also in the description of his wedding dress in the books: “The points of the long dagged sleeves almost touched the ground when she lowered her arms.” - A Storm of Swords - Sansa III
This addition to my little funny post tell us more about the relationship between Saint George and the princess: 
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Source: The Union Jack: The Story of the British Flag by Nick Groom.
via @butterflies-dragons [x]
This bit: “Saint George is often described as ‘Our Lady’s Knight’ and was strongly associated with the Cult of the Virgin, which contributed to his role as a model of chivalry and courtly love”, reminds me more and more of Sansa, the character most associated with chivalry and courtly love in ASOIAF.  We also have a link to the Faith of the Seven and The Maiden, that reminds me of this ASOIAF passage: “The Maiden lay athwart the Warrior, her arms widespread as if to embrace him.” - A Clash of Kings - Davos I. Sansa would be the Maiden and Jon would be the Warrior.  
The secular version of the legend, the one where George marries Sabra, was also depicted in paintings, here’s an example:   
 The Wedding of St. George by Dante Gabriel Rossetti:
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I love that Sabra is wearing a rose in her hair, I will come back to this detail later.
As if all of these findings weren’t enough, yesterday @tell-me-this-isnt-jonsa​ made this very interesting contribution:
Want to hear a fun fact?
While St. George is now most often associated with England and English iconography, his legend actually spans across Europe and parts of Asia. Relevant to our interests, in Slavic and Germanic folklore, St. George is also the patron saint of wolves, otherwise known as the “Master of Wolves” or a wolf herdsman, able to tame and/or command these wild beasts, as well as protect people and livestock from them.
@tell-me-this-isnt-jonsa [x]
You can read more about Saint George as the Master of Wolves here.
Saint George as the “Master of Wolves” or “Wolf Herdsman” reminds me of Jon Snow being crowned King in the North (I know this only happened in the Show, but there is a possibility that this happens in the Books as well).  Either way, Jon Snow is a character strongly linked to leadership, and that’s what being a master or a herdsman ultimately means.  And talking about masters, leaders and Kings, is worth to say that Saint George is also known as the “Prince of Martyrs”.  
After this very important addition, I talked with my friend @flibbertigiblet about all the symbology and similarities between the Legend of Saint George and ASOIAF.
First she told me this:
The country of Georgia, where devotions to the saint date back to the fourth century, is not technically named after the saint, but is a well-attested back-formation of the English name. However, a large number of towns and cities around the world are. Saint George is one of the patron saints of Georgia; the name Georgia (Sakartvelo in Georgian) is an anglicisation of Gurj, ultimately derived from the Persian word gurj/gurjān ("wolf").
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So yeah, ladies and gentlemen: GEORGE = WOLF
So Saint George is literally: THE WOLF THAT SLEW THE DRAGON
And my little funny post was right after all: Jon Snow killing his aunt to protect Sansa could be the televisual representation of Saint George killing the dragon to protect Princess Sabra... 
The story of Saint George and the Dragon symbolizes the good winning over the evil. The Christianity winning over paganism, where the dragon represents the evil, the paganism; the princess represents the Catholic Church/Virgin Mary; and Saint George is the Champion of the Catholic Faith.  
Jon Snow is not a Champion of the Faith of the Seven tho, he worships the Old Gods. A very classical GRRM twist, making the Old Gods the pagans and shaping the Faith of the Seven as the Catholic Church. Don’t worry tho, Sansa Stark professes both religions, but I would dare to say that, at this point of the story, she prefers the Old Gods.  
After finding all these gems, so many things make sense. Like the way GRRM talks about dragons, calling them nuclear weapons; and the way he expresses his love of wolves.   
About dragons:
Dragons are the nuclear deterrent, and only Dany has them, which in some ways makes her the most powerful person in the world. But is that sufficient? These are the kind of issues I’m trying to explore. The United States right now has the ability to destroy the world with our nuclear arsenal, but that doesn’t mean we can achieve specific geopolitical goals.
Power is more subtle than that. You can have the power to destroy, but it doesn’t give you the power to reform, or improve, or build.
—Vulture 2014
THEM: And the dragons?
GRRM: “Oh sure, dragons are cool too,” he chuckles. “But maybe not on our doorstep”
—The Guardian - 2018
What drives Dany? With Dany I’m particularly looking at the… what effect great power has upon a person. She’s the mother of dragons, and she controls what is in effect the only three nuclear weapons in the entire world that I’ve created. What does it do to you when you control the only three nuclear weapons in the world and you can destroy entire cities or cultures if you choose to? Should you choose to, should you not choose to?
—“Interview exclusive de George R R Martin, l'auteur de Game Of Thrones” de -Le Mouv’-
About wolves:  
Chris Long: What your favorite things about wolves are? What drew you to wolves? Because it seems like you have a passion for them.
GRRM: I like their ferocity. I like the fact that they’re social animals, that they have, they’re packs, they’re not lonely hunters. They have their own society, their own packs. They work together. You know I’ve tried to make that point in “Game of Thrones” and that will come back to it in later books, you know. When winter comes, the cold wins blow, the lone wolf dies, but the pack survives. And human beings need to keep that in mind too. We all need each other. We all need packs. That’s true on a football team as well. The individual star can’t succeed without great teammates around him.
—George RR Martin in The Fish Bowl with Chris Long
It’s not a surprise then, that GRRM has called the Starks “The Heroes of the Story”, and the Starks are wolves, and one of them could be destined to slay a dragon to protect a member of their pack, and become a legend: THE WOLF THAT SLEW THE DRAGON...  Just like happened in the Show...    
To be honest, as thorough as GRRM is, I’m very sure he knows a lot about his namesake Saint George “The Dragon Slayer”, and he seems proud to bear the name:
John Hodgman: That’s how I can’t sue you, If you steal from history and add a dragon. I can’t sue you.
GRRM: I’m working off my own, you know, karma here, because I’m George, and what’s he known for? He killed the dragon, you know, come on. Come on, I was almost abolished at one point when the Catholic Church was reviewing all the saints, I was terrified that George would be abolished, because they abolish a lot of fiction, I said George is only known for killing a dragon, how can they keep him in, but they did so, that was, that was good.
John Hodgman: I’m glad you stayed anointed.
GRRM: That’s right.
—In conversation: George R. R. Martin with John Hodgman
As far as I know, GRRM is an atheist, but he went to a catholic high school: 
Chris Long: You also grew up in Bayonne, right?
GRRM: Right, Bayonne, New Jersey, yeah.  
Chris Long: So you have, somebody that works on my crew said they’re from Bayonne. They said to ask you about the Bayonne Bees. Did you go to there, were you at the high school, the Bayonne Bees?    
GRRM: No, that was our archrival. I went to the Catholic high school, Marist, and the Royal Knights.  
—George RR Martin in The Fish Bowl with Chris Long
Marist is a catholic congregation named after Blessed Virgin Mary. And their Football Team is called the Royal Knights. Royal Knights huh... I wonder why?
Interestingly enough, Saint George is often described as ‘Our Lady’s Knight’ and was strongly associated with the Cult of the Virgin, which contributed to his role as a model of chivalry and courtly love.
And remember that according to the most known version of the legend, “The king built a church to the Blessed Virgin Mary and Saint George on the site where the dragon died”.
I really hope Sansa Stark finds her true knight someday, someone as brave and gentle and strong as Saint George - The Dragon Slayer... Someone we could call “Our Lady of Winterfell’s Knight” or maybe “The Queen in the North’s Knight”...
Anyway, continuing with the recount of my research, after that I told my friend��about my favorite version of the Legend of Saint George and the Dragon, this one from Catalonia, Spain:
The Legend of Saint George
The legend explains that long ago, in Montblanc (Tarragona) a ferocious dragon, capable of poisoning the air and killing with his breath, had frightened the inhabitants of the city. The inhabitants, scared and tired of the dragon´s ravages and misdeeds, decided to calm him by feeding him one person a day that would be chosen randomly in a draw. After several days, the princess was the unlucky one.
When the princess left her home and headed towards the dragon, a gentleman named Saint George, dressed in shining armor, riding a white horse, suddenly appeared to rescue her. Saint George raised his sword and stabbed the dragon, at last releasing the princess and the citizens from this turmoil.
From the dragon's blood a rose-bush grew with the reddest roses that had ever been seen. Saint George, now a hero picked a rose and offered it to the princess.
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Montblanc, the town of this story, literally means “White Mountain”, very Winterfell-ish... 
So, remember that Dante Gabriel Rossetti’s painting where Sabra is wearing a rose in her hair during her wedding? That painting reminds me of this version of the legend.
A knight giving a rose to a princess is a trope GRRM used a lot in ASOIAF: Lyanna’s crown of winter roses, The Rose of Winterfell, Loras giving Sansa a red rose, Sansa wearing the rose Loras gave to her in her hair, Marillion’s song for Alayne: 'The Roadside Rose', etc.  Also, a rose is a very important element of certain story GRRM loves: Beauty and the Beast. 
Saint George’s day (April 23th) is a very important festivity in Catalonia, Spain. Saint George is their Patron Saint and this day is also known as the Catalan Valentine’s Day:
Saint George´s Roses
Sending roses is the most significant thing about this festival. Anyone can make this offering, although as tradition dictates it is the man who must give a rose to his beloved. According to the legend, Saint George saved his princess by killing the dragon from whose blood grew a rose. That is why some consider it the Catalan Valentine´s Day, because Saint George is said to be, par excellence, the patron saint of lovers in Catalonia.
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That’s why Saint George's Day is also known as The Day of the Rose in Catalonia.
Since we got romantic at this point, my friend told me about some potential Jonsa AUs based in the Legend of Saint George and the Dragon, and she also mentioned Saint George’s Cross, the one on the England flag.
To that detail, I mentioned the Saint Andrew’s Cross, the one on the Scotland flag, and how GRRM has made the Starks very Scot coded. I also mentioned how the Union Jack, the United Kingdom’s Flag was created by merging Saint George’s (Englad), Saint Andrew’s (Scotland) & Saint Patrick’s (Ireland) crosses.
And after that, my friend said to me this: 
“Following that logic - Jon's non-Stark half (I don't want to say Targ), as represented by St George's cross, which theoretically gives him the birthright to rule England/The southern kingdoms, plus his Stark side/Sansa, as represented by St Andrew/Scotland = The 7K/Westeros with Jonsa as King and Queen”. 
At that point I was screaming: ¡¡¡THIS IS THE HENRY TUDOR & ELIZABETH OF YORK -WAR OF THE ROSES- JONSA THEORY!!!
And then, after all this information, I decided to write this post.  My friend took the same decision, so expect more on the subject!
It was a long ride. I could be right about all of this or maybe just a little, or more probably, I’m all wrong, but it was a blast! 
As my friend, @shieldofrohan​​ likes to say: “GRRM’s own name is a fucking spoiler for the books”  
***The end***
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megashadowdragon · 5 years ago
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salem is jaunes  biological mother
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“ jaune is a foil To Ruby. She’s a prodigy who quickly became a deadly warrior at a young age and is welcomed into Beacon two years early as a result while Jaune is a hard worker who progresses slowly and had to lie his way into Beacon because of his nonexistent combat background. Ruby is a strategist specialized on pre-defined team attacks and wields a self-made weapon capable of long range combat. Jaune is a tactician specialized in creating new team attacks according to his analysis on the battlefield and wields a family heirloom only capable of close range combat. Ruby has a rather broken family but they fully support her decision to become a huntress while Jaune’s family is large and united but they don’t support his choices nor have any faith on him. Ruby is a tomboy who dominates the battlefield but doesn’t enjoy dancing whereas Jaune tends to act girly and is initially terrible at fighting but also a great dancer. The more you look into them as a pair, the more contrasts that can be spotted in the details.”
jaune has a more “feminine way of dealing with emotions” while ruby has the more masculine way of dealing with emotions
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“Joan of Arc is known for breaking gender stereotypes about what it meant to be a woman. And if you think about it in a lot of ways Jaune doesn’t fit into the stereotypical “man box.” We are don’t “men don’t cry.” He wears his emotions on his sleeve. While in the real world men (and in the world of RWBY BOTH men and women ARGUABLY) are told to be strong. And that many people superficially equate physical strength with heroism (Raven?) it is fitting that Jaune’s semblance doesn’t so much doesn’t so much empower himself, as it empowers others. (as well as himself but its more effective on others in the team since they are more skilled than him) The so called “Feminine” strength.” P.S. Hmm as a follow-up to my The Importance Of Foils Part 2 post. I think that Ruby, despite being a girl, fits into the “man box” better than anyone else including it’s UNHEALTHY WAYS OF DEALING WITH EMOTIONS. The only difference is on remnant, it’s not because a man doesn’t cry. But because “a hero doesn’t cry.”
ruby first activated her silver eyes leading to her to learn about them when she saw pyrrha jaunes partner impaled by cinder and burnt to ash failing to save pyrrha  her awakening being in reaction to her death while jaune activated his semblance and realized what it was when he saw rubys partner weiss  impaled by cinder and  was able to save her  life awakening his semblance to do so allowing him to learn what his semblance was ( which is a good example this is an example of them being foils  and how its been shown and effected their storys )
what if while summer rose rubys mom fought the good fight to protect humanity salem the person threatening humanity is jaunes mother.
( and the fact that salem killed summer rose is an interesting connection  ( I once made a theory on jaunes dad working for salem and being the one to kill summer rose but since its been almost confirmed that salem killed summer rose I am settling on this idea that rubys hero mom was killed by jaunes evil mother)
also silver eyed warriors are descended from ozpins various reincarnations  where he had  kids with someone from humanity 2.0 which is how the SEW were created  ( one of his reincarnations  was shown with children who have silver eyes ) given that he is reincarnating due to the power of the god of light which affected him and as a result created the SEW  and ruby is a silver eyed warrior
so it would be interesting for jaune in contrast to be the child of salem and have some power related to the god of darkness in him. 
plus its heavily theorized that jaune has a connection to salem 
and salem wanted to do eugenics before with her and ozs kids  and she likely realized that SEW were descended from oz  so she could very well have come to idea of producing a child of her own with humanity 2.0 to see what would happen  and at first she left him  with the father ( to be taken care of and avoid distraction for her )   until jaune showcases some power ( or that she expected jaune to show some signs of power but didnt sense that because it was slumbering in him and gave him to the father ) ( and I once suggested the possibility of jaunes father  (and the father of the 7 girls )  working for salem )  ( and because he didnt she let him be giving up that option ) or what if the people jaune currently refers to as his parents  are his aunt and uncle   and the 7 sisters are actually his cousins  and jaunes real father is working for salem 
 ( or salem went looking for jaunes father who didnt work with her   ( before she had her veins  and had a child with him ) people compared jaune to jon snow who believed all his life to be illegitimate. what if jaune is an illegitimate child
= : monty when asked if there will be character deaths responded with I like game of thrones this makes me think of  jaune and jon snow. since jaune sounds just like jon. and jaune had a crush on weiss schnee and schnee means snow. jaune schnee would  equal jaune snow which sounds like jon snow
An outcast from a prestigious family who decides to dedicate his life to protecting the realm. Meets a girl who has been ‘kissed by fire’      (red hair ) who is killed by an arrow to the chest. ygritte  (who had red hair which led her to being said to being kissed by fire ) for jon snow and pyrrha for jaune ( and pyrrha literally means fire colored and pyrrha was burnt to ashes killed by cinder who is associated with fire) and killed by an arrow   also ygrittes  (jons love ) dead body was burnt to ash in a funeral pyre and pyrrhas body was burnt to ash jon    at the start believed he was neds bastard  
ruby is a sew  she has her powers due to her connection with oz having a child with someone of humanity 2.0 and is descended from that reincarnation jaune would be born due to salem having a child with someone from humanity 2.0 and get his powers due to that
plus lots of people already believe that jaune is salems descendant all this would do is make her relationship to jaune closer than that   ( I have links to posts on jaune being salems descendant
this is just extending it to salem being jaunes mother plus its said that miles luna ( jaunes va ) and jen ( salems va  ) will get lines with each other
 and monty said that jaunes color is different from the rest of his family
There’s the color you think he is, the color he lives up to, it’s a lot of stuff. -Monty in Forever Fall commentaries which implys that yellow which jaune means isnt his true color theme
imagine if this is because jaunes family isnt his immediate family and his relationship with salem
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also, not to continue to clown but
penny, with the maiden powers, didn’t react to the silver eyes. that means cinder’s weakness in volume 3 was absolutely to do with the METHOD of receiving the powers; the grimm beetle bonded with her and caused her to become part grimm before she got even got the grimm arm.
also, this further proves that people don’t respond to the brightness of the silver eyes, since no one but cinder did, which begs the question -
why is jaune arc the only other human to have ever reacted to the silver eye power?
and why did he shield his eyes in the exact same way cinder did this volume?
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( and this fits with tyrians interest in jaune ) 
just an idea that I came up with and if its true I will love to see dustypotions and other peoples reactions to it 
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nyangibun · 6 years ago
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Day 2 - Fools in Love
Valentine’s Week - Love Songs
@jonxsansafanfiction
Song - Can’t Help Falling in Love by Elvis Presley
Ao3 Link
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Subject: Thank You
Dear Mr Snow,
Thank you for meeting with me on such short notice this morning. I understand you must be very busy and I really appreciate it.
I just want to reiterate that Rhaenys is a very bright girl but she might benefit from some after school activities. I hope it’s not out of line for me to say this. I do think Rhaenys really wants to play with the other kids but she might be too scared to do so.
If there is anything you think she might be interested, please let me know. I will help in any way I can to get her involved.
Best wishes,
Sansa Stark
Winterfell Academy
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Subject: Re: Thank You
Dear Miss Stark,
Please just call me, Jon. And it really was no trouble. I’m happy to come in any time.
Since I took her in, I’ve noticed that my sister enjoys reading a lot and last week, I bought her some paints. It was probably a bad idea but she’s really enjoying painting her own room. Is there something she could do with either of those things?
Can I be frank with you, Miss Stark? I have no idea what I’m doing. Any advice is more than fine so don’t worry. You’re not out of line at all.
Best wishes,
Jon Snow
CEO, Wildling Group UK
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Wildling Bros
Tormund: Are u srsly crushing on ur sis’s teacher? Mate… how long has it been since Ygritte? Maybe its time u got laid
Jon: I’m not crushing on my sister’s teacher!
Sam: You kind of are. You couldn’t stop talking about her at the pub. Remember?
Edd: Yeah, mate. We get it. She was super helpful and nice and shit but hitting on your sister’s teacher probably isnt a good idea.
Jon: I’m not hitting on her. I just think she could be good for Rhaenys.
Jon: Can we drop this?
Tormund: Whatever u say, Snow.
Tormund: But on a scale 1 to Me, how hot is she?
Jon: She’s 10/10 hotter than your ugly ass
Tormund: OI! I AM BEAUTIFUL!
Edd: Says who????
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Subject: Thank You
Dear Jon,
If we’re going by first names then you can call me Sansa. It’s only fair.
You’re doing much better than you think you are. The fact that you care enough to come in and talk about ways to help Rhaenys is a lot more than some parents. Trust me.
You’re letting a five-year-old paint her own room? That is… risky.
But maybe we can enroll her in some afterschool art classes. Would she be interested in that? A couple of the girls from her class do them.
Best wishes,
Sansa Stark
Winterfell Academy
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Subject: Re:Re: Thank You
Dear Sansa,
Art classes sound great! Let’s do that! She seemed pretty interested when I mentioned it but I’ll come in with her the first couple of classes. I think that would make her feel better. Is that okay?
You’re too kind. Thank you, Sansa.
I mean it saves me the trouble of figuring out what colour to paint her walls. Now she can just paint all over them however she likes.
Best wishes,
Jon Snow
CEO, Wildling Group UK
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Jeyne: You’re EMAILING with the Hot Dad??!?!
Sansa: He’s not a dad. He’s her brother.
Sansa: And sooooo??? You make it sound like I’m having an affair behind the bleachers or something!
Jeyne: Don’t tell me you DON’T wanna lick Hot Dad from head to toe.
Sansa: That’s super inappropriate, Jeyne! We’re teachers!
Jeyne: And we’re red-blooded single women with eyes!
Sansa: Why do I bother talking to you?
Jeyne: Because I’m smart and you love me.
Jeyne: So when do you see Hot Dad again?
Sansa: On Wednesday… but it’s strictly professional! We’re enrolling Rhaenys in the afterschool art classes and he’s going to come sit in so she doesn’t feel too nervous.
Jeyne: Huh. So remind me again why he’s doing all this? Aren’t her parents around?
Sansa: I didn’t ask but he mentioned their dad isn’t around much and her mum passed away couple of years after she was born.
Jeyne: Poor baby.
Sansa: Yeah, she’s a sweet kid but just painfully shy.
Jeyne: So Hot Dad decided to take her? How old is he? That can’t be an easy decision.
Sansa: Probably a bit older than us?
Jeyne: Damn. I know I’m a teacher and I love my kids but I can’t imagine actually having any right now.
Sansa: I know. Jon’s a good guy.
Jeyne: JON, IS IT? HOOOOO BOY, YOU GOT IT BAD!
Sansa: Fuck off!
Jeyne: LANGUAGE, MISSY!
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Subject: Re:Re:Re: Thank You
Dear Jon,
Thank you for coming in with her. I think you being there really helped a lot. She looked like she was enjoying it, right? Did she say anything when you two got home?
Also, I wanted to apologise about earlier. My friend is… I want to say not always so nosy but that would be a lie. I hope she didn’t make you uncomfortable or anything.
And for what it’s worth, I wasn’t lying when I said you’re doing really well with Rhaenys, even if becoming her sole guardian wasn’t part of your plans. She looks up to you and she needs a good parental figure in her life.
Best wishes,
Sansa
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Subject: Re:Re:Re: Thank You
I didn’t mean your dad isn’t a good parental figure!
I’m so sorry! That was so rude! I’m so so sorry!
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Wildling Bros
Edd: Get the fuck back to work, Snow! I can see you smiling at your phone down there!
Jon: I’ve finished my part, you wanker. Some of us are just more efficient than others.
Edd: HA!!!!! Efficient? If you were so efficient, you’d be asking out your hot teacher.
Jon: What?? Why would I do that?
Edd: Because you’re basically in love already.
Jon: No I’m not. And weren’t you the one telling me crushing on her was inappropriate?
Edd: Eh, what do I know?
Tormund: Will u two stfu??? Some of us are in meetings with potential clients, u know!
Tormund: P.S. Jon, he ain’t wrong. When u gonna ask her out???
Sam: Leave him alone. It’s not always that easy.
Tormund: Ah well YOOOOUUUU would be the expert on not making a move. Hows it going w Gilly????
Sam has left the group chat.
Tormund has added Sam to the group chat.
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Subject: Re:Re:Re:Re: Thank You
Dear Sansa,
Well, you wouldn’t be wrong though.
My dad is, for lack of a better word, pretty shit for a dad. Great businessman, awful father. Even when I was younger, he was never around, but my mum and him were never married so it didn’t bother me. I at least had her for most of my life.
Rhaenys wasn’t too lucky. Elia was a great mother but I don’t think Rhaenys even remembers her that well. She died when Rhaenys was 2. I should’ve realised sooner how lonely she was but I was so focused on getting my company off the ground that I didn’t notice. I should’ve taken her in sooner. Maybe she wouldn’t be having such a hard time connecting with the other kids at school.
 Sorry. I didn’t mean to unload on you like that. Shit.
Jon
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Subject: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Thank You
Jon,
You don’t have to apologise for that. I don’t mind at all. I’d be lying if I said I hadn’t been curious about you all this time so it’s nice to get some insight into who you are but I think you’re crazy for blaming yourself so much. This isn’t your fault and this isn’t some irreversible thing. Rhaenys will be fine and she’s already doing so much better since the art classes.
I wish you could come see her. I know you’re busy so this isn’t me guilting you or anything but I just want you to see how happy she is. She even started talking to Lillian more.
See, if it wasn’t for you, she wouldn’t have had all of this.
Stop blaming yourself. Be proud.
I’m proud.
Sansa
P.S. I take it back then. Your dad sucks and Rhaenys is lucky to have you as her main parental figure.
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Subject: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Thank You
Sansa,
I hope you know that I made the mistake of opening your email during a meeting and laughing out loud at you saying my dad sucks. If I lose this client, I will have to hold you responsible.
I can come next Wednesday. Will that be okay?
Oh and thank you. A lot of people have said similar things but I guess coming from you makes it a little more believable. Because you’re her teacher and you actually know how she’s doing.
So do I get a life story from you? I feel like you already know everything about me. This friendship feels unbalanced.
Jon
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Jeyne: So we finally go out and you spend all night giggling at your phone and ignoring every half decent looking guy to hit on you. When in the hell are you just gonna tell Hot Dad you’re into him?
Sansa: I did not! And I am not!!
Jeyne: The lady doth protest TOO BLOODY MUCH!
Jeyne: Seriously, Sans. You’re allowed to date. There aren’t any rules you can’t date your student’s parents and even if there was, Hot Dad’s technically just her brother.
Sansa: Even if I did like him, who’s to say he’s even interested????
Jeyne: Uh maybe the fact he’s emailing you at 10pm on a Saturday night?!!?
Sansa: That doesn’t mean anything.
Jeyne: My god you are dumb.
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Subject: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Thank You
Jon,
How will you hold me responsible? I plead innocent.
Wednesday is perfect. We’re actually having a Halloween theme class then. Did Rhaenys mention it? We’ll be in costumes so be sure to come dressed appropriately!
There’s not much to tell. I’m a single 28-year-old. I’ve lived in Winterfell all of my life. I have one sister and three brothers. I’m the second oldest in my family and the only sane one. If you ever meet my family, you’d see why.
Ummm… I have a dog named Lady. She’s the sweetest thing in the whole wide world. And that’s it. Truthfully, my life is very boring.
Sansa
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Subject: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Thank You
Sansa,
Hardly innocent, Miss Stark. You’re very distracting.
Ugh… I don’t really do costumes. Can’t I just dress Rhaenys up and be done with it? Which actually is another issue. She wants to be Rapunzel but Rapunzel from the Disney movie. Where do I even find that?
Four siblings? Wow, that’s quite a household. I’m actually a little jealous. I’ve always wanted a big family. Growing up, it was just mum and me but at least I have Rhaenys now.
What kind of dog is Lady? I have a dog too. His name’s Ghost. Big mischievous Husky.
Jon
P.S. You’re not boring to me.
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Subject: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Thank You
Jon,
You’re just as distracting so you’re guilty too.
Do you want me to help you find the costume? I could meet you and Rhaenys in town and we could have a look around. I feel sending you out on your own would be too cruel. That way I can also help you find your costume too!
You can have my siblings if you want. Just say the word and they’re yours.
Really? That’s kind of crazy. Lady is a Husky too!
Sansa
P.S. Thank you.
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Sansa: Okay, you were right.
Jeyne: Of course I was. I’m a genius. But what exactly was I right about?
Sansa: Hot Dad!
Sansa: I think… shit. I think I’m in love with him.
Jeyne: OOOHHHHHHH! TELL ALL!!!
Sansa: I offered to help him find Halloween costumes in town so I just spent the day with him and Rhaenys. We walked all over town and you know how I can be kind of… closed off around new guys? I thought that’s how I’d get or that at least it’d be awkward considering we’ve only seen each other a couple of times but it wasn’t. It wasn’t at all.
Jeyne: And!?
Sansa: And then to thank me, he took me out to dinner. I mean Rhaenys was there but you know how much I adore her.
Sansa: Oh god, Jeyne… The scary thing is there was this moment when we were sitting there, just the three of us laughing at something, and I realised this was what I wanted. Him and her and all of it.
Jeyne: Shit… I thought you just wanted to bone him.
Sansa: SO DID I!!!!!!! WHAT DO I DO!!!
Jeyne: First of all, calm down. There’s nothing you can do but just tell him how you feel. Look, it might be hard for you to believe but this guy is clearly crazy about you too.
Sansa: Maybe. I don’t know.
Jeyne: TELL HIM!!
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Wildling Bros
Jon: So fuck…
Sam: What’s going on? Are you okay?
Tormund: What’d u do now?
Jon: I think I’m way over my head with Rhaenys’ teacher.
Edd: You’re only now realising this????
Jon: Piss off. I didn’t think I’d like her so much. Yeah, she’s more beautiful than anyone I’ve ever met or dated or even seen but she’s Rhaenys’ TEACHER. I didn’t expect it to get this far.
Sam: You can’t help how you feel, Jon.
Tormund: What is “this far”? Did u shag her?!
Jon: No! What???
Tormund: What? I’m just asking. What do u mean???
Jon: I mean I want to date her!
Jon: No, fuck. I want to do more than date her. I want to marry this girl and have 4 kids and buy a house and stupid impossible things!
Edd: Why’s that impossible?
Jon: Did you not hear me? She’s Rhaenys’ teacher. The only teacher she trusts. What if it goes to shit? I can’t do that to Rhaenys. And who’s to say she’s even interested?
Edd: You’re a dumb prick. You won’t know if you don’t try. And stop using your sister as an excuse because you’re scared.
Sam: He has a point.
Tormund: Does he? So how’s Gilly?
Sam has left the group chat.
Tormund has added Sam to the group chat.
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Subject: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re: Thank You
Sansa,
I’m really sorry about today. I didn’t mean to act so weird and leave abruptly like that. I can’t really explain it. At least over email.
We’re having a little picnic in the park for Rhaenys’ birthday next Saturday. She’d really love it if you came but I’d understand if that’s a little awkward for you. You can bring your friend, Jeyne, if you want though.
We’ll be at Weirwood Park at noon. I really hope to see you there.
Jon
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Tormund: So u coming tonight?
Jeyne: Idk why u think we’re suddenly friends just because we caught your best friend making out with my best friend together. That is NOT a bonding moment!
Tormund: Felt like a bonding moment to me.
Jeyne: You are very weird.
Tormund: Besides, we both know they’ll probably get married in a year or something, pop out some kids and be really disgusting about it for the rest of our lives. Better bond now over our mutual disgust.
Jeyne: I hate that you’re not wrong.
Tormund: ;)
Jeyne: You’re such a creep. How could someone like Jon be friends with YOU?
Tormund: I know, right? I’m way too handsome to be with that broody prick.
Jeyne: OH. MY. GOD.
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Subject: BTW
Just to reiterate, in case I wasn’t clear enough last night…
I love you.
I know it’s probably foolish to rush into this since we barely know each other and you’re Rhaenys’ teacher but we both adore you and I can’t help falling in love with you.
And I was broody because I thought you had a boyfriend. Did not realise that was your brother.
So in conclusion, I’m an ass, but at least I’m an asshole that loves you, right?
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Subject: Re: BTW
Loving me is not an excuse to be an asshole but I forgive you because you’re cute when you’re jealous and broody.
And I love you too. Maybe it is foolish and fast but I don’t care.
Now, stop emailing me and come over so I can fuck you seven ways to Sunday.
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Subject: Re:Re: BTW
Jesus fuck, Sansa…
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asknightqueendany · 6 years ago
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The Big Five (Bran, Arya, Jon, Dany, Tyrion) who will survive is only something that George R. R. Martin wrote in a letter about the upcoming series in 199-fucking-3. It was supposed to be a trilogy. There was supposed to be a love triangle between Tyrion, Arya and Jon. Also dany wasn’t supposed to have dragons in that outline so STOP using the big 5 to justify that Sansa isn’t an important character! It’s getting old and transparent.
I’m cracking up. Have you people even READ the original outline? No? I highly suggest you check it out before sending me asks on it again. You can see the original photos and transcribed texts HERE.
But let’s go through it because it’s a glorious Friday afternoon and I feel like taking some people down a notch.
The things I seem most about GRRM’s original outline as reasons why it shouldn’t be taken seriously are: 1) it was supposed to be a trilogy and 2) there was supposed to be a love triangle between Jon, Arya, and Tyrion. I don’t know where you got the whole, “Dany wasn’t supposed to have dragons” thing anon because according to the outline, there be dragons:
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But let’s take a look at the letter. George states, “There are three major conflicts set in motion in the chapters enclosed. These will form the major plot threads of the trilogy, intertwining each other in what should be a complex but exciting (I hope) narrative tapestry. Each of the conflicts presents a major threat to the peace of my imaginary realm, the Seven Kingdoms, and to the lives of my principal characters.”
The first threat, George says, is the Lannister/Stark conflict.
The second threat is the Dothraki invasion, led by Daenerys in what George thought would be his second novel - A Dance With Dragons.
And the Third and final threat to Westeros would be the Others in his presumed last novel - The Winds of Winter.
Now, right off the bat, George has already used all the book titles, with TWOW in progress. On the show, we’ve already seen the play out and conclusion of the Lannister/Stark war. Daenerys/Dothraki invasion of Westeros has happened in the show. And the Others had begun invading the Seven Kingdoms at the end of Season 7.
So all of what George first said has come to pass, just eight seasons and seven books, not a trilogy.
In AGOT, things George said would happen was that Ned and Cat were doomed (✓), things for the Starks would get worse before they got better (✓), Ned would find out what happened to Jon Arryn (✓), Robert would have an accident and the throne would pass to Joffrey (✓), Ned would be accused of treason (✓), and Ned would help Arya and Catelyn escape to Winterfell (did not happen). HOWEVER - Cat never needed escaping from King’s Landing AND Arya did escape King’s Landing after Ned’s beheading - she just didn’t receive help from him.
George says of Sansa: she will wed Joffrey (no) and bear him a son (no), “and when the crunch comes she will choose her husband and child over her parents and siblings, a choice she will later bitterly rue” (✓ - Sansa DOES choose Joffrey over her family in the Riverlands and then again in King’s Landing by going behind Ned’s back to tell Cersei of his plan to send them back to Winterfell and willingly volunteers to write the letter to Robb so that she can still marry Joffrey (not because Cersei made her write it, she did it for Joffrey). Tyrion befriends Sansa (✓) and Arya (no) and becomes disillusioned with his own family (✓).
I’m just going to quote the whole letter from now on because I’m too lazy to type…
“Young Bran will come out of his coma (✓), after a strange prophetic dream (✓), only to discover that he will never walk again (✓). He will turn to magic, at first in the hope of restoring his legs, but later for its own sake (✓). When his father Eddard Stark is executed, Bran will see the shape of doom descending on all of them, but nothing he can say will stop his brother Robb from calling the banners in rebellion (✓) . All the north will be inflamed by war (✓). Robb will win several splendid victories (✓), and maim Joffrey Baratheon on the battlefield (no), but in the end he will not be able to stand against Jaime and Tyrion Lannister and their allies. Robb Stark will die in battle (no), and Tyrion Lannister will besiege and burn Winterfell (no - kinda).” - Winterfell does get besieged and burned, only not by Tyrion, by Theon and Ramsay. And of course, Robb will die during his war against the Lannisters, just not in battle.
“Jon Snow, the bastard, will remain in the far north (✓). He will mature into a ranger of great daring (✓ - kinda), and ultimately will succeed his uncle as the commander of the Night’s Watch(✓ - kinda). When Winterfell burns, Catelyn Stark will be forced to flee north with her son Bran and her daughter Arya (no - kinda). Wounded by Lannister riders, they will seek refuge at the Wall, but the men of the Night’s Watch give up their families when they take the black, and Jon and Benjen will not be able to help, to Jon’s anguish (no). It will lead to a bitter estrangement between Jon and Bran (no). Arya will be more forgiving … until she realizes, with terror, that she has fallen in love with Jon, who is not only her half-brother but a man of the Night’s Watch, sworn to celibacy (no - kinda). Their passion will continue to torment Jon and Arya throughout the trilogy, until the secret of Jon’s true parentage is finally revealed in the last book (no - kinda).” - though Jon isn’t a ranger, he goes on a ranging and is pretty daring. He does become LC but not succeeding Benjen, succeeding Mormont. Bran does flee to the Wall, but to go beyond it. Arya tries to flee North/to the Wall but doesn’t make it. Jon is tormented by a love because of his NW vows of celibacy - Ygritte - and does develop feelings for his kin - Daenerys.
“Abandoned by the Night’s Watch, Catelyn and her children will find their only hope of safety lies even further north, beyond the Wall (no - kinda), where they fall into the hands of Mance Rayder, the King-beyond-the-Wall, and get a dreadful glimpse of the inhuman others as they attack the wildling encampment (no - kinda). Bran’s magic, Arya’s sword Needle, and the savagery of their direwolves will help them survive, but their mother Catelyn will die at the hands of the others (no - kinda).” - as stated, Bran does go beyond the Wall, Jon is the one who falls into the hands of Mance Rayder, Jon does get a glimpse of an Other attack on a wildling encampment (Hardhome), and Bran’s magic and direwolf do save him from the Others (The Door - Hodor).
“Over across the narrow sea, Daenerys Targaryen will discover that her new husband, the Dothraki Khal Drogo, has little interest in invading the Seven Kingdoms, much to her brother’s frustration(✓). When Viserys presses his claims past the point of tact or wisdom, Khal Drogo will finally grow annoyed and kill him out of hand, eliminating the Targaryen pretender and leaving Daenerys as the last of her line (✓). Danerys [sic] will bide her time, but she will not forget (✓). When the moment is right, she will kill her husband (✓) to avenge her brother (no), and then flee with a trusted friend into the wilderness beyond Vaes Dothrak (✓ - kinda). There, hunted by Dothraki bloodriders (✓) [unclear]  of her life, she stumbles on a cach***e of dragon’***s eggs (✓ - kinda) [unclear] of a young dragon will give Daenerys the power to bend the Dothraki to her will (✓). Then she begins to plan for her invasion of the Seven Kingdoms (✓). - Daenerys does wander the wilderness beyond Vaes Dothrak (after she hatches her dragons) with her Khalasar in the Red Waste. She does get dragons eggs, just given to her at her wedding instead of stumbling upon them (really, that’s just better storytelling on George’s part. If she had just randomly found them, it would feel too coincidental). Dany did kill Drogo but not to avenge Viserys; it was to put him out of his misery. Dany does use her powers to bend the Dothraki to her will (burning the Khals to become TSWMTW).
“Tyrion Lannister will continue to travel, to plot, and to play the game of thrones (✓), finally removing his nephew Joffrey in disgust at the boy king’s brutality (no - kinda). Jaime Lannister will follow Joffrey on the throne of the Seven Kingdoms (no - kinda), by the simple expedient of killing everyone ahead of him in the line of succession and blaming his brother Tyrion for the murders (no - kinda). Exiled (✓), Tyrion will change sides (✓), making common cause with the surviving Starks to bring his brother down (✓ - kinda), and falling helplessly in love with Arya Stark (✓ - kinda) while he’s at it. His passion is, alas, unreciprocated (✓ - kinda), but no less intense for that, and it will lead to a deadly rivalry between Tyrion and Jon Snow (yet to be seen).” - Joffrey is killed and Tyrion is accused though he wasn’t guilty. Cersei follows her son to the throne after Tommen’s death (which was her fault so she essentially killed him), Tyrion joins Daenerys to bring down Cersei, he falls in love with Dany (according to all of Peter’s interviews about his feelings for Daenerys), as Dany is in love with Jon, it seems Tyrion’s affections are reciprocated, and we don’t yet know if Tyrion and Jon will fight to the death. It’s possible.
So anon, I’d say so far as George’s predictions go for the entire series, he’s gotten it closer to his original outline than not. So please, for the last goddamn time, leave me alone with this bullshit that the Original outline doesn’t mean anything so far as Sansa’s character and I should stop referring to it. Almost everything George predicted he’d write, has come to pass. Perhaps not how he originally thought…but largely, it’s all happened. 
Wanna know why Sansa’s a “major character” in the show? Look:
And it’s because of Turner’s strength, Benioff continued, that it made sense to give Sansa a dramatic storyline this season and to use Ramsay’s engagement for that very purpose. In fact, the showrunners first thought about putting Sansa and Ramsay together back when they were writing season 2. “We really wanted Sansa to play a major part this season,” Benioff said. “If we were going to stay absolutely faithful to the book, it was going to be very hard to do that.
D&D wanted it. It’s not George’s story or George’s plan. Dan and Dave like Sophie’s acting and wanted her to play a more major role. So they gave her that. It has absolutely nothing to do with the series as a whole or the endgame. Sansa is not a main character and she will matter very little to the endgame.
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motherofkittens94 · 7 years ago
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 Sansa thought she had long since given up the idea marrying for love That was just a fantasy  for silly little girls was it not? she had good reason to think so but here on this snowy day the dream she thought shed lost forever was about to come true after all . This time it was the man she herself had chosen who stood beside her. He smiled at her through his broken teeth and let her hold his mangled hands .Just for this moment he is unashamed and that is because of her. 
Although he is hiding it well she can tell he is afraid. Not of her  she knows but of the future and of the past and of the ghosts that still haunt him and the shadows that still lurk in the murky corners of this place this ruin. She understands.  She shares those nightmares of his in the dark but right now it is day and this old place that turns nightmare in the dark it is now full of light and life and faith and cheer. It is her dearest home once again and she cannot hate it .She is safe and she is with all those she loves and it is snowing . It is her wedding day. Her last wedding day. Her best wedding day . She is not scared  She has never been less afraid in her whole life 
“I always used to dream of this day- before...” he confessed to her  “ I always used to dream of marrying you “
She blushes a deep red to match her flowing locks  “ Are you ready then, Lord Greyjoy?” 
He smiles so wide then and his eyes sparkle with mischief like they used to before... she hasnt seen that look in so long . She’d missed it sorely 
“You know I am. Are you?” 
Oh she isnt scared no but right now she is holding on to him so tightly like she thinks she’d wake any second and he’d be gone from her side 
Since he shared a confession she does too “You are my true knight.” she whispers “ The one I always looked for - waited for. There you were- right by my side  all along. you saved me- never forget that  -you saved me “ He squeezed her so tight then it was like he’d never let her go. She’d never felt safer   
He doesnt say “I love you” he never had done- not even before... and she had never expected it - not from him - but now he says “Sansa”  like her very name was a prayer for salvation and she understands . She understands that when he says Sansa like that he was also saying everything that he could not yet say but that he meant with his whole heart and also everything that could not ever be shared in words -not even between the two of them who had cemented their bond in hell. She understands. He has put his fragile faith in her and she is happy to return the favour                                                                                    
“I know .“she tells him  “Believe me I know” 
So she doesnt say “I love you”  either but this time it is not because she doesnt mean it .
She says instead simply “Theon.”
Theon Theon Theon  like its the only word she knows- the only word that makes any sense- the only one that matters . she knows that is what he needs to hear. she knows that he knows what she means . When she says Theon she means  I forgive you Theon Greyjoy     I trust you Theon Greyjoy    I understand you Theon Greyjoy’    I love you Theon Greyjoy  All of this and more. 
Theon Theon Theon
Sansa Sansa Sansa 
They are two already 
Oh no she isnt scared she is full of hope she is full of courage  she is full of pride
Moody old Jon snow is beaming at her Arya is wearing a dress and even Tyrion is there.  He catches her eye and raises a wine glass 
Good luck he mouths 
I dont need luck she mouths back not this time 
 She doesnt need luck because for once this is entirely her choice and yes she is ready come what may
For she has faced monsters and come out steel plated
She has faced monsters and she knows that Theon isnt one - whatever people may say 
They may say whatever they like 
They need not listen  words cannot cut them anymore��
and here on this snowy day Sansa Stark is ready
She is ready
to become 
Lady Greyjoy  
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Rolling her eyes, she pushes the wispy bits of her hair out her face impatiently and sees his point. Though, she absolutely won't own up to it. “You're the one being annoying.”
“Hey now.” He moves to stand in front of her. “Don't blame this mood on me.”
He smiles widely at her even though she doesn't deserve it, even though she called him annoying for just being his teasing self. She exhales and wipes the first drop of sweat from her brow.
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The drive to Holiday World isn't terribly long, definitely no longer than when Jessica's family didn't have a car with air conditioning so every minute felt like an hour. She sat in the “way back” of their state of the art van, with Harry crammed in on one side of her and a cooler of soft drinks on the other. Her two younger sisters, aged thirteen and eleven, take up the normal back seats, headphones in and playing with Snapchat filters to pass the time.
Jessica thinks what really made the drive pass in warp speed was Harry, or rather, his ridiculous dancing to the entire Abba discography her mom wouldn't stop playing.
“Turn it up, Mrs. Scott!” He had even encouraged at one point, hooting to the dismay of her three children and devoted husband.
By the time they finally do get to stretch out of the cramped backseat, it's hard for Jessica to believe it had been a three hour drive. The first thing Harry does when he's out of the car is reach for her hand, pulling her, “Come on. While they unpack and get ready, we’ll grab a spot in line.”
So that's what they do - they stand in line for fifteen minutes, waiting for the rest of her family. They take a selfie themselves, posting it on Snapchat with the caption, holiday world, get ready for us and argue over which attraction to ride first. It takes some pushing but eventually Harry agrees that they can go on a small roller coaster to warm up, or really so Jessica can pluck up the courage to go on the bigger ones.
When her family joins them, they nod along as Jessica runs through the lineup of rides. The group is determined to visit every single one before they leave. Even her little sisters start to pay attention and look excited. But once they're actually in, and through with that first ride, they beg their parents to split up and go to a metal coaster with at least three loops.
Jessica feels nowhere near ready for that, so Harry gently shoos away her family and pretends to be doing her a great service by waiting in line with her for a slightly larger wooden coaster.  
“You could've gone with them if you really wanted to.” Jessica exhales after Harry makes the third joke about how childish the ride they were waiting on is. They've only been inside the park for thirty minutes at most and she's already getting annoyed with the lines. The heat isn't helping her mood as it beats down on her. Harry's bickering is icing on the cake of her frustration.
“Yeah right.” He snorts, unaffected by the ever growing crowd and relentless sun. “You would've been so pissed if I had left you.”
“I probably would’ve preferred it.”
Harry finds her out of the corner of his eyes, examining her short frame for a few seconds before, “Oh my god. Yeah! I forgot how miserable you are at theme parks.”
Rolling her eyes, she pushes the wispy bits of her hair out her face impatiently and sees his point. Though, she absolutely won't own up to it. “You're the one being annoying.”
“Hey now.” He moves to stand in front of her. “Don't blame this mood on me.”
He smiles widely at her even though she doesn't deserve it, even though she called him annoying for just being his teasing self. She exhales and wipes the first drop of sweat from her brow.
“You'll adjust to the heat and cheer up soon enough.” Harry does that thing again where he finds a loose piece of her hair that she hadn't even realized was annoying her and tucks it into her bun. “Happens every time we're here.”
“It's just so hot.” She mumbles, pouting up at him under her eyelashes. “Why did we have to come today?”
Harry's next move kind of takes her breath away, because instead of replying, he just begins waving his hands in her face, creating the most satisfying, desirable spurt of breeze that could be produced without an electric fan. It's then that she has no problem admitting that lately, nearly everything Harry does ends up with her feeling butterflies. Even when she thinks she'll be annoyed with him for hours like she used to get, she ends up picturing her face inches away from him in his basement, recalling the smell of mint on his breath, the taste -
“Better?” He asks once the frown lines on her forehead begin to relax.
“Um, yeah.” She blinks a few times to come down to earth, then grins, “But please don't ask me to return the favor, that'd be too much movement.”
“Would you even if I did?” He takes a step back with the flow of the line. There are only five people ahead of them now so they should be on by the next cycle.
By the look he's giving her, he already has an answer but still, she shrugs, “Maybe for a minute… until my arms got tired.”
“Literally sixty seconds then.”
“It's the thought that counts?” Jessica means it to be a statement yet somehow, it’s a question she's smiling out.
Harry nods, laughing along and then moving back to stand beside her, inches away. She glances over, admiring the way his white t-shirt pulls across his chest.
The car arrives again, letting off ten very giddy customers. Harry and Jessica pick a seat in the middle - the best spot in their personal opinion.
“Nervous?” He questions once they're already strapped in and the attendants are making the final safety checks.
Jessica tries to play it cool, staring down the tracks in the distance, raising one shoulder, in the most casual shrug she can muster. “Nah, I'm good.”
They have been friends for a decade though, so Harry doesn't fall for that at all.
“This one will be fine, I promise.” He throws a comforting arm around her and squeezes her shoulder. “Nowhere near the speed of the next one we’ll go on.”
Throwing her head back, she whines, “Please let me skip the really fast ones, Harry.”
“We will see.” He winks right when the attendant gets to them. Apparently, one tug of the metal bar is good enough to prove they won't fly out of the cart. Jessica squirms after the lack of security that provides her with. “This’ll be fun, shorty.”
She finally decides to look away from the tracks and instead focuses on his face. It gives her a degree of calm that she’s too afraid to admit. “You sure?”
He nods furiously while the attendant gets on the microphone and reads his speech about arms inside of vehicles and loose items put to the side. Next thing Jessica knows, before she could have stowed away her glasses if she hadn't already, the cart begins to hurtle forward, sending her reeling back.
Two minutes later, the ride is slowing and Jessica is coming down, her love of amusement parks slowly reignited and Harry's arm still thrown around her shoulders. The increasing joy could have been because the roller coaster was genuinely fun, but probably had more to do with Harry’s strong arm pulling her closer and allowing her to screech in his ears, out of 3 parts fear but mostly exhilaration. She knew it would be like this for any other rides they chose, making her willing to sit on even the fastest roller coaster in the park.
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hiii!! and we back and we back and we back and we back and we back na na na... this aint no intro, it’s the entree, hit that intro with kanye and sound like andre, trying to turn my baby mama to my fiance.... god that is such a jam. (all we got by chance the rapper, go listen. as a matter of fact, ill put it on the incredible playlist and link it above)
ANYWAY what i meant to say was that.....
and we’re back!! my internet is kind of horrible right now so it keeps disconnecting from my computer and being a pest but i keep figuring it out!!! i swear ill post another update of these guys soon! its getting exciting! at least to me! tell me if you think so too!!!
@what-comes-from-within edited this for me and turned it into something so here is to her!!! love ya girl! (jon snow isnt going to die this season. you better believe!)
THANK YOU ALL FOR READING!
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In the latest episode of Game of Thrones, Dany’s restless, Euron makes his move and Grey Worm becomes a man.
Well, it didn’t take long for Dany’s attitude to change.  She hasn’t been on Dragonstone that long and already she’s pissy.  She wants to take the Seven Kingdoms now.  But Tyrion and Varys want her to wait.  They know Cersei, her cunning and her strategic brain.  She won’t go down without a hell of a fight.  A storm is raging on Dragonstone and Dany is told she was born on a night like this one.  But Dany doesn’t want to hear all of that mess, instead, she wants to know where Varys’ loyalty lies.  She starts to ask questions, wanting to know why he constantly changed position when it came to the kings of Westeros.  Varys doesn’t mince words because he’s lived a cruel life, he knows what it’s like to be hungry, scared and alone.  “You wish to know where my true loyalties lie?  Not with any king or queen, but with the people.  The people who suffer under despots and prosper under just rule, the people whose hearts you aim to win.”  Yes!  Dany, wary of Varys but willing to work with him, tells him to swear that if she ever fails the people, that he will tell her to face and he does swear.  But then she tells him, “And I swear this.  If you ever betray me, I will burn you alive.  Varys ain’t no fool.  He answers, “I would expect nothing less from the mother of dragons.”  The two come to a truce, for now.
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After, Dany is visited by Melisandre, recently kicked out of Winterfell by Jon Snow.  She tells Dany that she must summon the newly-crowned King in the North.  Tyrion hears the name and tells Dany that Jon is a good man and would definitely be a great ally.  Dany tells Halfman to send a raven to Jon summoning him to Dragonstone.  Oh yeah, and to “bend the knee.”  Umm, ok.
At Winterfell, Jon, Sansa and Davos are discussing the raven from Tyrion.  Sansa thinks it’s a trick but Jon knows the note is really from Tyrion thanks to the last line:  all dwarves are bastards in their father’s eyes.  Sensibly, Jon asks Sansa for her advice about Tyrion.  She tells him that Halfman is not like the rest of the Lannisters and was always good to her while she was in King’s Landing.  But she thinks it’s way too risky for Jon to meet with Dany and advises against it.  Davos agrees but also mentions that if the white walkers make it past the Wall, will they have enough men.  Jon has a decision to make and fast.
At King’s Landing, Cersei meets with the remaining bannermen of House Tyrell, including Samwell’s repulsive father.  The Queen tries to scare the men into fighting for the Crown, even throwing in a dig about the “foreign Dothrakis.”  Sounded a bit too much like real life, to be honest.  However, not everyone is convinced.  Sam’s dad steps up and says that Dany has three grown dragons, so how in the Mother are they gonna defeat them?  As always, Qyburn has a plan.  After the meeting, Jaime meets with Tarly to try and persuade him to fight for Cersei.  Tarly isn’t a sycophant, though.  The man was willing to kill his own son to preserve his name.  He won’t fight for House Lannister unless he knows it will be in the best interest of House Tarly.  So, what will the old bastard do?
Back at the Citadel, a frightened Sam stares at Jorah as he’s being examined.  The greyscale has covered most of his body, meaning it won’t be long before he loses his mind.  Sam mentions to the Archmaester that Princess Shireen (RIP, Princess), was cured of her greyscale.  But the Archmaester tells him it was because her affliction was caught right away.  No such luck for Jorah.  The Archmaester gave Jorah a day to figure out what he plans to do, but he can’t stay at the Citadel.  Sam asks Jorah if he should contact his family, and when he realizes that the sick man is a Mormont, Sam tries to find a cure instead.
Back at King’s Landing, Qyburn take Cersei down into the dungeons to show off his newest toy.  It’s a giant crossbow strong enough to kill Dany’s dragons.  He demonstrates its power by having Cersei shoot one of the giant arrows into the one of the dragon skulls, the largest one of the bunch.  The arrow goes straight through the skull, which spells trouble for House Targaryen.
Back at Dragonstone, Yara, Lady Olenna and Ellaria are trying to convince Dany to attack King’s Landing.  They don’t understand why she’s waiting around, but they soon find out.  Halfman tells the ladies that their armies will attack the capital, surrounding King’s Landing and trapping Cersei.  The women are pissed about that, thinking their armies will be doing all of the heavy lifting.  But then Tyrion reveals the kicker:  the Unsullied will attack his own family home, Casterly Rock.  The women are speechless, but think this plan is a good one.  They agree to it before Dany requests a meeting with Lady Olenna alone.  Dany tries to convince her that she will eventually bring peace to Westeros.  But Olenna knows much, much better.  She knows that Tyrion is a clever man, but so were many men she’s known over the years.  And she outlived them all by ignoring them.  “The lords of Westeros are sheep.  Are you a sheep? No.  You’re a dragon.  Be a dragon.”  The time will come when Dany will absolutely have to be a dragon.
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Later that night, Missandei visits Grey Worm before he leaves for Casterly Rock.  The two have grown ever closer, but never made a move on each other.  But that all changed when Grey Worm explained that Missandei was his weakness.  He kisses her, but she stops him.  She stops him so she can take off her robes, then proceeds to undress Grey Worm.  But he doesn’t want her to see him, being a eunuch and all.  But she’s like, nah man, you’re leaving, we’re doing this.  They both get naked and Grey Worm is vulnerable for the first time since he was a boy.  Missandei takes him to the bed and they finally get intimate.  Grey Worm may not have a penis, but if you think that’s what you need to be intimate, you’re doing it wrong.  Here’s hoping GOT doesn’t fuck us all up by having Grey Worm die at Casterly Rock.  Cuz you know this show doesn’t care about our feelings!
Back at the Citadel, Sam sneaks into Jorah’s room so he can perform the cure for his greyscale, which is strictly forbidden.  He tells Mormont that the procedure is extremely painful (and positively nauseating to watch).  Not sure how he survived the ordeal, but here’s hoping it works and Jorah can return to his Khaleesi a new man.
Still on the road to King’s Landing, Arya meets up with her old friend Hot Pie, who’s culinary skills have only gotten better.  As she’s eating, Hot Pie wonders why she isn’t at Winterfell.  She’s like, “why would I go there since the Boltons have it?”  And he was like, “you haven’t heard?  Your brother fucked Ramsay up and took Winterfell back.  He’s there now.”  Arya is conflicted because she wants to kill Cersei but damn does she want to see her brother and go home again.  She leaves her friend and while outside, makes the decision to head back to Winterfell.  I’m not ready for that reunion!  I’m getting choked up just thinking about it!!
Back at Winterfell, Jon meets once again with his bannermen to tell them that he will be meeting with Dany after all.  The men are pissed and think he’s making a mistake.  Even Lady Lyanna told him to stay in the North.  But Jon tells them all that he’s seen the army of the dead with his own eyes.  The North will need as many allies as it can get to defeat it and the Night King.  Sansa (looking more and more like Cersei every day) tells him not to go, until he tells her that he’s leaving Winterfell for her to rule until he returns.  That shut her up, but she needs to watch out for Littlefinger.  This was the moment he was waiting for and don’t believe for a minute that he won’t try to take advantage.  Which he did immediately.
In the crypt, Jon is paying respects to his father when Littlefinger comes down to speak with him.  Lord Baelish starts talking about Ned and Caitlyn but Jon doesn’t want to hear it.  He starts to leave but when he brings up Sansa, Jon chokes him out.  He tells Lord Baelish that if he even talks to Sansa, he’ll kill him.  Jon lets him go (for now) and he and Davos leave for Dragonstone.  What will Littlefinger’s next move be now that Jon is away?
On the road, Arya is trying to get a fire going when she and her horse are surrounded by wolves.  They all look like they’re ready to attack when a giant direwolf comes up behind her.  Turns out it’s her own direwolf, Nymeria.  The wolf is HUGE and looks like it’s ready to tear her up, but when Arya talks to her, she recognizes her old friend and calms down.  Arya wants Nymeria to go with her to Winterfell, but the wolf turns and goes back into the woods.  Arya is devastated at first, but then she realizes that it’s been too long since Nymeria last saw her and she’s accustomed to being free.  “That’s not you,” she says, remembering when she said the same thing to Ned in Season 1 (so long ago!).
On the water, Theon, Yara and Ellaria are below deck having some drinks.  Ellaria and Yara are flirting relentlessly, with poor Theon feeling the loss of his prized possession.  The two ladies start making out when something crashes into the ship.  Yara grabs her sword and she and Theon go above deck to see their Uncle Euron’s armada on top of them.  Euron and his men attack and it’s all-out war.  The fighting is vicious, leaving everyone on board (including the Sand Snakes) dead and Yara captured.  Theon, who could have saved his sister, freezes in place, remembering the horrors he endured while under Ramsay’s control.  He jumps overboard, leaving his sister to be captured by Euron.  When the fighting is over, Theon is in the water, surveying the carnage that was left in Euron’s wake.
What will happen now that part of Dany’s army has been slaughtered?  How will Theon deal with the loss of his sister?  And will we be able to contain ourselves when Jon and Dany finally meet?
Stay tuned.
Game of Thrones airs Sundays at 9pm on HBO.  Photos courtesy of HBO.
Game of Thrones – Season 7 – Stormborn In the latest episode of Game of Thrones, Dany’s restless, Euron makes his move and Grey Worm becomes a man.
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Encyclopaedia Westerosa: the biggest Game of Thrones mysteries, solved
How big is Westeros? What is wildfire? And how rich are the Lannisters? Ten things you didnt know about the biggest show in the world
Warning: this piece contains spoilers for seasons 1-5 of Game of Thrones .
When George RR Martins stabby saga was adapted for TV in 2011, perhaps the biggest topic surrounding it was: why would any self-respecting adult watch a fantasy series about dragons, zombies and sorcery? Well, six seasons in, the folly of that way of thinking has been exposed like a member of the Nights Watch trapped north of the Wall. Game of Thrones is now a global preoccupation.
Much of that success is down to the detailed world created by Martin and brought to vivid and sometimes visceral life on the demonstrate. From the frozen north to the intrigue-filled chambers of Kings Landing, Westeros is a place steeped in mythos and mystery, familiar yet so alien. Even now, theres still so much we dont know about the place, so many questions that need answering. But while youve already read 713 blogs about whether or not Jon Snow has carked it, there are deeper mysteries about Game of Thrones that have never been properly addressed. Ahead of the proves season six premiere, we get to grips with Westeross biggest hows, whys and whats. Answers are coming …
Why is a White Walker able to walk ?
All white on the night. Photograph: Allstar
The blue-eyed ghouls in dire need of a dermatologist definitely have the appearance of being dead all exposed skeletons and rotted bits but are they? And, if so, how is it that they can move around and stab things in the face? It is possible to stimulate nerve and muscle electrically and cause it to contract even when isolated from the body, says Dr Matthew James Mason, university physiologist at Cambridge. If the brain dies that doesnt mean that all the other tissue of the body immediately dies, too. But, despite their appearance, White Walker arent mindless zombies, so brain death cant have resulted. My guess is that they arent dead at all, says Mason. If they look like they are decay, perhaps their immune system is compromised. Are they just frost, scurvy-ridden wretches in need of a hug? They probably require medical help and sympathy, argues Mason. Poor sods. The next time you assure one, then, perhaps chuck it an orange and a coat and dont be so quick to judge, yeah? LH
How rich are the Lannisters ?
Warriors Dance: Tywin Lannister. Photograph: HBO
They fund wars, boast one hell of a property portfolio and own actual gold mine. If a Lannister always pays their indebtedness, it can be safely assumed theyve got a few quid in the kitty. Dr Charles Insley, senior lecturer in medieval history at the University of Manchester, guesses drawing a parallel with a real-life example may be the key to finding out how many. Richard Neville[ 1428 -1 471] was the richest peer in England on his death, says Insley. Nevilles sister Cicely was also married to Richard, Duke of York, and it was the collective wealth and therefore capability to buy subsistence that constructed the Neville/ York confederation so dangerous. The Nevilles are likely to be worth more than the crown. All sounds very Lannisterian, right? But come on how rich would the Nevilles/ Lannisters be in todays fund? Billions?$ 2bn doesnt seem too little, I suppose. So, the most influential family in Westeros is only half as wealthy as Donald Trump? Thats not fretting at all. LH
Is it really possible for winter to last a generation ?
Snow help at all. Photograph: Helen Sloan/ HBO
House Starks ominous catchphrase winter is going is partly a callback to an extended cold snap 8,000 years ago when White Walker had the run of Westeros. How could one winter last 100 years? Scientific theories include the planet wobbling on its axis or having an eccentric orbit; writer George RR Martin himself says its only down to sorcery. In our world, there is a( comparatively) recent precedent a 70 -year Little Ice Age spanning the 17 th and 18 th centuries that refrigerated western Europe. It went on for several decades, crops failed, the Thames froze over, explains Professor Jim Wild, space physicist at Lancaster University. Research presents it also coincided with a period of unusually low sunspot activity. Less solar energy can have a major consequence on climate patterns. If winter is coming again the poor serf of the north should start saving up for a package vacation to Dorne. If I saw myself in that situation, Id start heading south, says Wild. It should be a bit warmer nearer the equator. GV
What is it with all the castrating ?
Conleth Hill as Varys and Peter Dinklage as Tyrion Lannister. Photograph: HBO
Daenerys Targaryens army of Unsullied soldiers are upper-class warriors who were castrated in infancy that are intended to attain them more focused, loyal and fearless. But is this really what happens when your tackle is chopped off? Dr Shaun Tougher, reader in ancient history at Cardiff University, is sceptical. We do assure the idea that eunuchs are chaste and loyal, but we also assure the inverse: that theyre tormented and frustrated. Eunuch soldiers arent at all common in history, but the idea of eunuch generals is quite prevalent theres a very famous Byzantine eunuch general called Narses in the 6th century AD. Because of their status as luxury objects, many eunuchs who originated in the slave trade ended up serving at court, like wily manipulator Varys. Varys is in some ways the archetypal court eunuch. Although I was quite surprised when it was revealed that his castration was done by a sorcerer. Seems like the notion of using a mans lunchbox for sorcery purposes is a pure cock-and-balls narrative. SR
Could person genuinely become a dragons mother ?
Dragons den. Photograph: HBO
From the ashes of a Dothraki funeral pyre, Daenerys Targaryen emerged with three ferociously loyal newborn dragons hanging off her. In the real world, newborn lizards are genetically hardwired to be much more independent. Weve hatched dragon eggs here, explains Matt Cook, lead keeper at Chester Zoo, currently home to six Komodo dragons. But if you were to try and approach them, they would attack you rather than snuggle your hair. Theyre intelligent but they have to be selfish because its genuinely the only way to survive. They may never truly love you but it is possible to develop your dragon. Daenerys hollers Dracarys! when she wants some barbecuing done but Cook favor a system that involves a traffic cone, a audio clicker and a tiny meaty reward to wrangle his charges. They tolerate humans, genuinely, he says. Once they get to a certain size, they know theyre the upper part of the food chain so they can be quite arrogant; they think theyre untouchable. But they can also be very chilled. Khaleesi does it. GV
How long would it take to build the Wall ?
High and fighty: The Wall. Photograph: HBO
482 kilometres long. 213 metres high. 91 metres thick. In reality, a wall of this size constructed entirely of ice would collapse under its own weight. But this is Westeros, a world where dragons roam and Little Fingers accent is never questioned, so lets crunch some numbers. Its estimated that when building the Great Pyramid, a workforce of, on average, 14,567 people running 10 -hour days laid around 180 blocks per hour. Now, if the ice bricks making up The Wall are a metre squared, it would contain in the region of 9,342, 606,000( thats 213 x 91 x 482,000, maths fans ). At a sensible-sounding 180 blocks laid per minute, it would take the same workforce 51,903, 367 hours to construct The Wall. Thats 5,921 years. So, we have to assume Brandon the Builder who legend has it enlisted the help of giants had a much larger workforce than this. Even with 100 times the pyramids workforce, 14,567, 000 employees, it would take over 59 years to build. All sounds like a little bit of a faff, genuinely. LH
Why is the Seven Kingdoms in debt ?
A loan in the dark: Jamie and Cersei Lannister. Photograph: HBO
A costly five-way civil war has forced the Seven Kingdoms to go cap in hand to the Iron Bank Of Braavos. Dr James Davis, senior lecturer in medieval history at Queens University Belfast, watches a parallel with Edward III, who borrowed heavily from Italian banks. But he was a step ahead of the Lannister dynasty. Edward III was quite canny: at the same as fighting a war he was developing parliament to extract more taxation without too much unrest. At the heart of every medieval king, whatever their aspirations, it was always about where you could get the money. Davis suggests that the Seven Kingdoms needs to abandon its feudalist structures and fast. There isnt much sign of development of trade and industry. It absence stable laws that would allow entrepreneurism to emerge. Otherwise a peasants revolt is a possibility only around the corner: In a real society, thered be more riots. SR
Whats my best opportunity of beating The Mountain in a duel ?
Fight the power: Hafthr Jlus Bjrnsson, left, as Gregor The Mountain Clegane. Photograph: Alamy
Even in Westeros, a land not exactly lacking in murderous mercenaries, Gregor The Mountain Clegane is a lethal legend. So how would a layman go about tackling him in a trial by combat? Martin Oz Austwick is the founder of the English Martial Arts Academy, offering class in historical European swordsmanship. His strategy? Like the Red Viper, choose a long weapon to try to match the range of the Mountains terrifying greatsword: A spear would be good, although Id personally favor a quarterstaff. Also, forgo armour to allow yourself greater mobility and focus on injuring Cleganes massive hands: if he cant wield his weapon, he cant cleave you in twain with it. One debate in our community is whether targeting hands is an acceptable technique, says Austwick. It might seem dishonourable but against the Mountain, doing the British thing and being polite would be your undoing. So my advice would be to fight as dirty as you can. GV
How big is Westeros ?
In continents: one of Game of Thrones filming locations. Photograph: Alamy
George RR Martin has stated that Westeros is roughly the size of South America, which would make sense for a continent with climates that range from the frozen wastes north of the Wall to the balmy water gardens of Dorne in the south. Utilizing measurements given in the series, the width of Westeros is calculated to be around 3,000 miles the distance from the tip of Norway to the Red Sea and with a population of 20 -4 0 million. The topography stimulates sense for the most part, reckons Simon Willcocks of Ordnance Surveys consultancy and technical services squad. All kinds of stuff from deserts to river deltas, marshy bog, mountain passes, but nothing outlandish. But if Westeros is so big, how come the main characters manage to keep bumping into each other? Its a very long and narrow continent with few roads and river intersects, reasons Willcocks. As for Essos, a continent that Varys seems to traverse at will but that has taken Daenerys at the least five series to cross well, thats for another day. SR
What is wildfire ?
Burning down the House: Peter Dinklage as Tyrion Lannister.
Joffreys victory at the Battle of Blackwater Bay during which the king-youd-love-to-slaps forces defended Kings Landing from Stannis Baratheon owed largely to Tyrion Lannisters procurement of an explosive known as wildfire. The resultant blue-green flames tore through Stanniss fleet like a longsword through the back of Ned Starks neck. But what the blaze is it? Dr Richard Henchman, senior lecturer in theoretical chemistry at the University of Manchester, draws comparisons to the historical episode of Archimedess fire to destroy Roman ships, which utilized mirrors to focus the sunlight rays into deadly beams. It is also similar to Greek flame, a Byzantine weapon able to burn on water, reminiscent of a crude kind of napalm. From a compositional standpoint, though, wildfires colouring suggest a copper compound. Perhaps what we have is a copper oxide/ magnesium thermite? It looks like sorcery to me, says Henchman. Oh. Never mind then. LH
Game of Thrones Season 6 starts 2am, Sunday 24 April and repeats 9pm, Monday 25 April on Sky Atlantic
This article was amended on the 15 th April to country the workforce necessary to build the wall in 59 years is 100 times that used to build The Great Pyramid , not 10
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In the season premiere of Game of Thrones, Arya Stark became the MVP of Westeros, Lyanna Mormont put the men in their place and Dany came home.
Okay, I’ve had time to watch GOT a second time and my goodness!!  So much has happened and it’s only the first episode!  Let’s get to it, people.
HBO has really upped the “Previously On” portion of the show.  Normally, we get a hodgepodge of what happened the previous season.  No, not this time.  Instead, it was a strategically placed mini movie of what transpired last season and it was still just as shocking.  But it also reminded is that this season and the next (and sadly, the last) are all important in this great game of thrones.  House Lannister is fighting for its very existence, House Stark is slowly coming together and House Targaryen is coming to take everything from everyone.
At the start of the show, we are at the Twins, where a very much alive Walder Frey is having a feast for all the men of his house.  At first, I thought this was some kind of flashback.  But damn was I so wrong.  It was none other than Our Rebel Arya Stark, using the skills she learned as No One.  She poisoned every male member of House Frey, killing them all and ending that house for good, possibly.  Once it was done, she turned to one of the girls and said, “Tell them Winter came for House Frey.”  A girl’s list has become one name shorter.
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In the North, Meera and Bran arrived at The Wall.  While waiting for the gate to open, Bran sees the Night King and the rest of the White Walkers (including the giant Wun Wun) are on the move in one of his visions.  They bring the storm that will envelope all of Westeros with them.  When the gate opens, a relieved Meera introduces them to the Night’s Watch, including the new Lord Commander.  He’s skeptical at first, but when Bran mentions Hardhome, Ed’s face says it all.  He commands his brothers to take Meera and Bran in before closing the gates against what’s to come.
At Winterfell, the King in the North Jon Snow is having a strategy meeting.  He wants dragon glass to be mined and forged into weapons against the White Walkers and he wants everyone ready to fight, including the girls.  Of course, Lord Glover has a problem with that.  But Lady Lyanna Mormont (the amazing Bella Ramsey) steps up and lets Glover know a few things.  “I don’t plan on knitting by the fire while men fight for me.  I might be small, Lord Glover, and I might be a girl.  But I am every bit as much a Northerner as you.”  Glover tried to cow to her but she interrupted him and said, “And I don’t need your permission to defend the North.”  That’s right you don’t!!!  She shut that fool down!  Lady Lyanna needs to be in every episode until the end of the series.
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Now if only Lyanna could talk some sense into Jon.  The newly-crowned King is already being a butthead.  He decided to punish the houses that did not stand with House Stark against the Boltons by . . . giving them back their houses.  WHAAAATTT??  WTF, Jon?  The Umbers and Karstarks left you high and dry and now you want to say, “hey it’s alright that you betrayed my house and sided with a maniac.  It’s all good.”  COME ON!!  Sansa, who knows more about dealing with traitors and usurpers than Jon, tried to talk some sense into her brother, but to no avail.  He shut her down, which you know is going to be a problem later on down the line.  Afterwards, Jon and Sansa argue, with Jon basically telling his sister to stop giving him useful and smart information in front of other people.  “Joffrey never let anyone question him, do you think he was a good king?”  Like I said, Sansa knows what she’s talking about.  But will Jon listen?
Back at King’s Landing, the new Queen is contemplating her next move.  Jaime is a little spooked at what his sister/lover has accomplished while he was away.  She’s killed all of her enemies, blown the Sept of Baelor to the heavens and crowned herself Queen.  But she hasn’t talked about King Tommen’s death.  In case you’ve forgotten, Tommen jumped out of a window when he realized his mother killed his wife.  Cersei underestimated her son’s love for his wife and now feels betrayed by him.  With her actions being more and more brutal, it’s only logical that Jaime wonder if he’ll be next on his sister’s hit list.  But she has other plans.
Euron Greyjoy came to King’s Landing to offer his ships and his “two good hands” to Cersei.  With Jaime standing right next to her.  But Cersei isn’t convinced.  “You killed your own brother.”  “You should try it. Feels wonderful.”  Okay, that was funny.  But Jaime didn’t think so.  Luckily, Cersei turned down Euron’s proposal but he doesn’t give up so easily.  He promised to bring her what she wants and lay it at her feet.  What could it be?
At the Citadel, Samwell is settling in nicely.  And by nicely, I mean he’s cleaning shit, serving food that looks like shit and doing basic library duties.  He looks miserable.  But he deals with it, because Sam wants something.  He wants to get into the forbidden section of the library.  But how to do it?  Well, he talks up one of the maesters to see if he can gain access.  Sam tells Archmaester Ebrose about the White Walkers.  In his roundabout way, the Archmaester tells Sam that he believes him, but doesn’t give him access to the forbidden section.  So, Sam takes things into his own hands and steals the keys from the maester who does have access.  Back in his quarters, he reads through the materials with Gilly and Little Sam beside him.  Gilly has learned to read and begins reading “Legends of the Long Night.”  Sam comes across a map of Dragonstone showing a mountain of dragon glass under the structure.  He begins composing a letter to Jon about this new revelation.  Will this lead to a Jon/Dany meet and greet?
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Back at Winterfell, Brienne is teaching Pod to help him with his sword skills.  She gets the best of him each time, but then here comes Tormund with his sly smile and that red hair.  He distracts Brienne for a moment, giving Pod a chance to best her.  She punches him in the gut for his trouble, with Tormund telling him, “You’re a lucky man.”  He smiles at Brienne, leaving her a little flustered (or pissed off, it’s hard to tell).  Sansa is watching the exchange when Littlefinger walks up behind her, whispering things.  If anything happens between Sansa and Jon, it won’t be Littlefinger who causes it.  He thinks he has sway over Sansa, and if we judge her by her past, he would be right.  But she’s been through hell and back and is with her family again.  Lord Baelish is in for a surprise if he thinks she’s the same girl she once was.
In the Riverlands, Arya comes across some Lannister soldiers, young boys all of them.  One just happened to be singer Ed Sheeran, which honestly felt a bit weird.  His part was small (thank God), but his presence felt fake, like he just didn’t belong.  Maybe it’s because no major players outside of the ones that have been with the show from the beginning have ever appeared.  Hopefully, he’ll be the last.  Anywho, the soldiers invite Arya to some of their rabbit, leaving her conflicted.  Normally, she would have slaughtered them all.  But they all just want to go home and be with their families.  They’re just like her.  They have no idea how lucky they are.
The Hound and the Brotherhood are on the move, as well.  Only, the snow and cold have made an appearance.  They look for shelter and come across a home that is all too familiar to Clegane.  It’s the same home where he Arya sought shelter before Clegane left the farmer and his young daughter to die.  He’s spooked at being there and is cranky the entire time.  Once inside, he sees the bodies of the two who died, unbeknownst to Beric Dondarrion and Thoros.  While Thoros builds a fire, Clegane asks Beric why the Lord of Light keeps bringing him back.  Beric has no idea, leaving The Hound with more questions than answers.  Thoros calls Clegane over to the fire and asks him what he sees.  At first, he sees nothing but “burning logs,” but when he looks again, he sees The Wall, East Watch by the Sea and the White Walkers marching.  Rattled by what he’s seen, Clegane buries the two bodies in the middle of the night.  He handles their bones gently and puts them each in the ground.  Thoros helps and is surprised after their done when Clegane says a prayer.
Back at the Citadel, Sam is collecting the empty bowls from the infirm when an arm covered in grey scale shoots out of one of the slots.  The arm belongs to none other than Jorah Mormont, and my friends, he ain’t lookin’ so good.  The grey scale has traveled over his entire arm but we don’t know if that is all.  Jorah’s face is in shadow so we don’t know the extent of the damage.  But he doesn’t care about that.  Jorah wants to know if Dany has come to Westeros.  Sam tells him that he hasn’t heard anything, shutting the slot on Jorah and his disease.
Well, to answer his question, yes, Dany has arrived in Westeros.  She is in a small rowboat with Tyrion, Missandei, Grey Worm and Varys.  As they come up to her family home, the dragons fly ahead, circling the castle, which sits high up on a hill.  Dany walks on Targaryen land, then kneels to touch the ground.  Two of her Unsullied open the front gates, and she sees her home for the first time.  The group walk up the path to the castle.  When they walk in, the first thing Dany sees is a Lannister banner.  She pulls it down to the floor, looking at it with disgust.  She walks over to the throne, which looks way more badass than the Iron Throne, to be honest.  Grey Worm tries to follow her, but Missandei pulls him back.  Dany must do this alone.  She looks at the throne, but walks by it.  The time is not right for her to sit upon the throne.  So, she walks into the war room where Stannis once stood, plotting his way to the Iron Throne and ultimately, his death.  Dany runs her hands along the carved table while Tyrion admires the stone dragons on the walls.  They both glance at each other before Dany finally utters the words we’ve all been waiting for: “Shall we begin?”  Yes!
How will this great war begin?  Who will make the first move?  And will any of them be strong enough to fight the Night King?
Stay tuned.
Game of Thrones airs Sundays at 9pm on HBO.  Photos courtesy of HBO.
Game of Thrones – Season 7 Premiere-“Dragonstone” In the season premiere of Game of Thrones, Arya Stark became the MVP of Westeros, Lyanna Mormont put the men in their place and Dany came home.
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motherofkittens94 · 8 years ago
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If you're still doing the ask game, game of thrones C D H and I :)
Which actors/actresses did the best job?
overall? hmm well apart from alfie Conleth Hill who plays varys was always good jack gleeson iwan and  Michael McElhatton was pretty much just like id imagined roose when i read the books and Michelle as Caitlyn also id say the all  child actors considering how young they were when it started did pretty well and baelish creeps me out a tonne which mean i  rate Aiden as an actor becasuse i dont usually feel personal threated by a fictional charcter but the ones legit scared him was him and iwan lol   
Which actors/actresses did the worst job?  hmm i  dont want to sound mean with this answer but heres goes  euron was a let down but thats less the actor or more that i told my friends how hadnt read asoiaf and that euron was super mega evil but they made into a just more annoying robert barathreon and there like umm you said he was evil …hes a bit of dick yeah .. but you said he was evil and im like great now i look stupid 
also i usually love peter/ tyrion but season 6 was .. . definitely not his best season lets say 
and i mean didnt think much of the dorne plot and did anyone/ but idk if that was down to bad scripts
i dont if can pick from the main cast who is really bad at acting tbh
H. What went on too long?
the reign of ramsay lmao i now love iwan but i was like i cant believe its not over when are we getting the theon escape scenes when ? like why hasnt he been killed yet watching him like
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i legit believed hed die  in season 4 and he when he didnt i was so raged i was like are you  fuckin kidding me rn i can not believe he isnt dead he was  shirtless aginst people with armour  and no one killed him wtf wtf and then i the battle of bastard and im like so last time he could fight without a shirt and win and but now he cant even hit your boy jonnie even once wtf is this man wtf  my god my friend and i had a running injoke about `immortal ramsay bolton; and in fact he bet me a fiver they would never kill ramsay off at all i won that bet haha  and was like no no hes gotta go i mean hes already done everything what is left to do but also legit question did he actually  objectively get hotter through the seasons or was that just me gaining a crush on him like idk? but  like he was not hot on in season 3  but watching botb and gee im so pumped for ramsay dying but  then hes like super hot and im well tits  thats the hottest hes ever been  ugh bu i say like i didnt get completely drunk and  afterwards and run around the house singing celebrate good times using a funko pop of jon snow and microphone which i totally did and its ok because non of my housemates were there to see that
cough anyway also balon why did they wait until season 6 to kill balon especially if they werent gonna do anything with him anyway  god why didnt they do the greyjoy plot it was a god plot. balon went on to long lol balon and on and on
and i like dany but shes spend ages dithering and like get into gear im waiting but she finally set sail so theres that
and i dont know how long theyll stretch the cersei story out i hope not too long actually
and also i thinks its taken(taking?) everyone far too long to acknowledge the white walker thing about to go down and to think about doing  anything about that and they need to because thats about to hit but they care more about their own dramas than that
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