#i loved lenore dove there's no need to hate other ship just because it's not yours

[girlrandomstuff]

hayffie yapping. sotr spoilers

I have been seeing people using the "like geese, we mate for life" quote to invalidate Hayffie as if Suzanne Collins havent write a wrong and false "love declaration" before. This quote reminds me of Katniss "he is mine, i'm his, everything else is unthinkable" quote, this one is based in guilt and we learn later that she was wrong about that because she loved Peeta and find love with him.

Well, Haymitch could also be wrong, not just because factualy is false, yes, geese mate for life sometimes, but if one dies, the other can grive the dead for a very long time and then find another partner, well Hayffie is based on that same bases, people are not shipping them in SOTR because Haymitch has a girlfriend and there's no doubt he adores her, but Hayffie represents a future chance to find love after living through the worst pains, I think is correct to say, both Haymitch and Katniss are talking from a guilt feeling, Katniss guilt of making Gale feel betrayed and left aside, Haymitch guilt of taking away Lenore's life and oportunities.

In conclusion, I really hope the new movie brings Woody Harrelson and Elizabeth Banks for an epilogue scene and leave them be as in love as they made Haymitch and Effie be in the main trilogy

[gudvina]

one of the many annoying things about sotr is the shipping police. i swear i never saw the fandom being so bitchy about two ships that are not canon. yes people ship haymitch with maysilee and effie, what's your problem? why do you care so much you have to insert yourself in those fandom spaces and then complain because people are calling you out on it? shipping based on headcanons it's something that have always existed, we did not invent it. but alas! ha*dove shippers feel so superior they think they have the right to tell everyone else h**dove is canon haymitch loved l*nore d*ve all of this life blah blah blah and i'm here trying not to tell them that a ship being canon does not make it good. especially h*ydove because that's not what i'd call a good romance lmaoo

I've just made a post about this, so your ask comes right in time, but this is the weirdest fandom space I've ever witnessed.

Hayffie shippers continuously seem to claim that while they have shipped hayffie for 10 years they believe Lenore Dove is the absolute love of his life, which I can understand a few people coming to that conclusion, but truly I've not seen anyone (apart from a very few people) say they are indifferent to Haydove or even deny that they are this great romance. I don't understand why Hayffie shippers (and thus the Hayffie tag) need to have this strong Lenore Dove presence or even Haydove presence in their blogs, so much that Haydoves (let's remember, the same people who have been fandom policing since sotr came out) feel comfortable going to Hayffie shippers' inboxes to ask about Haydove. Like in what world.

Imagine having a canon ship and worrying SOOOO much about ships that are not canon and that people have fun shipping. I hate ship wars, these problems are easily avoidable if we stayed out of each others' tags, but this behaviour is so fucking weird and it's getting tiring.

Hayffie week is coming in a few days. Let us enjoy that, at the very least.

[beevean]

Fuck it. Proship ask meme. All of them.

Man 😂 ripping off the bandaid, huh

I answered 9 and 15 here, and 10, 11, 12 and 14 here.

1.) What is your favorite problematic theme/trope that appears in a lot of your ships?

Age gap and power imbalance abuse :) the power imbalance creates interesting dynamics and conflicts, and the age gap... well it's just sexy :P

2.) Are there any problematic tropes that squick you out?

Incest, especially if depicted as wholesome or hot. This kind of alienates me from the proship community because incest is super popular (obviously, this is where the shippers flock) and I'm here like, good for you, but no thank you get it out of my sight 😂

3.) First problematic ship since you joined the proship community?

Sonegg? I don't consider myself a member of the proship community, but it was my very first "what is wrong with me" ship lol

4.) First ever problematic ship? (you didn't have to know it was problematic then)

See above. I knew it was "wrong", but hey, I've always been a weirdo.

5.) Ship you don't think it all that problematic, but the rest of your fandom hates?

... see above 😂 Sonegg is super tame compared to some of the other stuff I'm into, and I don't even feel the age gap in their case.

Oh, and Baroryuu, of course. I mean, it has some problematic aspects (Barok's very offensive comments towards Ryuu for a good chunk of his screentime), but I still think the character development of the two is strong enough to make them cute by the end.

6.) Cutest, most vanilla ship you are into.

Sonamy. They're adorable, and that's all they need to be. Even if I disagree with some of the popular takes :P Knuxamy to a lesser extent, I don't know if people have a problem with it... if only because it's a rarepair fhdufhdskj. but they cute too. power duo :D

And of course, Hectaly, who are 100% canon and wholesome and 💖

7.) Ship the antis in your fandom like, but you think is hella problematic?

uhhhhhh well I have many fandoms. I haven't bitched about fan-favorite Lapidot in years, so I might as well now: I relate too much with Peridot having to bend herself backwards to not upset Lapis, only to see herself abandoned by her best friend in a traumatic way, to think of them as wholesome when Lapis didn't even apologize for fleeing like she did.

8.) Ship that is (presented as) cute in canon/fanon, but you think is problematic anyway.

Lenector, as I have extensively explained by now :) and Lapidot as above. Catradora too, even if I'm not super into She-Ra - Catra's abuse of Adora is too extensive to be brushed aside in the last season alone.

13.) Rec a dead dove fic!

I mentioned a dark Lenector fic in the second ask I linked. Here it is <3 It's Hector suffering from severe PTSD and disassociation as Lenore keeps using him as a sex slave. This is the stuff I love, a mind scarred by trauma, even if the ending is not what I hoped for. (also "evil Lenore"? please this is her canon behavior)