#i love ivan and byerly

[thirdwifeofriversong]

“Unhand Lady Vorpatril!” is such an amazing line/moment— one of the few times when it’s completely clear that miles and ivan are related, however much ivan tries not to be like miles

[17oh1]

He’s not there for Ekaterin at all when he visits her, he’s there for Alexi! (Miles thinks By is there courting Ekaterin, because he perceives any male within ten feet of her as a threat, but Ekaterin herself notes that Byerly “didn’t even pretend to be serious.”) ImpSec does indeed delay Miles telling Ekaterin about the murder rumor later on to have her place in it evaluated by an analyst (per Allegre), so a desk jockey evaluating her involvement is right; they’re also investigating her at that point for the first time, because they hadn’t been keeping an eye on her separately (though doubtless By’s passively-collected testimony from that earlier visit would be one of the data points in the analysis). Given how top-secret the whole business is it’s especially difficult to imagine them giving By any reason at the beginning to look at her too closely, since from a security perspective that would be creating the very problem they’re trying to avoid!

Meanwhile By and Alexi arrive and leave together from the Vorthys household, and two different POVs in the book observe that By appears to be cultivating Alexi specifically to a weird degree—presumably because Alexi is a pipeline to what’s going on with Boriz Vormoncrief and the conservatives, though their association doubtless also helps with hustling Richars.*

Here they are arriving and leaving together, plus Miles’s thought that By must be hanging around Alexi for his money:

"Ah, here's your driver at last," Byerly added. "Lend me your coat, Alexi; I don't wish to damp my lovely new suit. What do you think of it? The color flatters my skin tone, no?" "Hang your skin tone, By." "Oh, but my tailor assured me it does. Thank you. Good, he's opening the canopy. Now for the dash through the wet; well, you can dash. I shall saunter with dignity, in this ugly but inarguably waterproof Imperial garment. Off we go now . . ." Two sets of footsteps faded into the drizzle. […] "Vormoncrief first turned up a few days ago. I'm afraid he's a bit of a bore, poor man. Vorrutyer just came in with him this morning; I'm not sure he was exactly invited." "He's found a new victim to sponge off, I suppose," said Miles. Vorrutyers seemed to come in two flavors, flamboyant and reclusive; By's father, the youngest son of his generation, was a misanthropic pinchmark of the second category, and never came near the capital if he could help it. "By's notoriously without visible means of support."

Later, Ivan similarly observes that By is cultivating Alexi:

They slid into a table toward the back; a man in well-cut civvies lounging at the bar turned his head as they passed. Ivan recognized By Vorrutyer. Most town clowns didn't frequent the officers' bars, but By could turn up anywhere. He had the damnedest connections. By raised a hand in mock-salute to Vormoncrief, who, expansively, beckoned him over to join them. Ivan raised a brow. Byerly was on record as despising the company of his fellows who, as he put it, came unarmed to the battle of wits. Ivan couldn't imagine why he was cultivating Vormoncrief. Opposites attracting?

And they have this conversation shortly thereafter:

By smiled briefly with one side of his mouth. "Now, now. I was there. Vormoncrief bored her to tears." "Yes, but . . . maybe her situation isn't comfortable. Maybe she would take the first ticket out that was offered . . . wait, you? How did you come there?" "Alexi . . . leaks. It's a habit of his."

And then of course By is still continuing to hang around with Alexi after the disastrous dinner party, when he attends the dinner where Alexi et al. originally develop the slander against Miles—notable chiefly for the fact that By indicates he’s there because he was invited by Alexi, not Richars, even though Richars by that point already thinks By is spying for him on Dono:

"I went to a little private dinner with Alexi Vormoncrief last night," By began. "How exciting for you," growled Ivan. By waved his fingers. "It proved to have moments of interest. It was at Vormoncrief House, hosted by Alexi's uncle Count Boriz. One of those little behind-the-scenes love-fests that give party politics its name, you know. It seems my complacent cousin Richars heard about Lord Dono's return at last, and hurried up to town to investigate the truth of the rumors. What he found alarmed him sufficiently to, ah, begin to exert himself on behalf of his vote-bag in the upcoming decision in the Council of Counts. As Count Boriz influences a significant block of Conservative Party votes in the Council, Richars, nothing if not efficient, started his campaign with him."

Bujold also actually remarked on this on the listserv back in 1999, though I’m (shrug) at Word of God, in this case I honestly always just thought it was evident from the text! You can find this in the ACC Companion:

“A side note on Byerly Vorrutyer … I would draw your attention to his comment to Ivan in the bar: ‘Alexi … leaks.’ In my mind, By (counter-intelligence, remember) was following Alexi. I feel that Alexi, while loyal, has had some problems in the discretion department …” (LMB to the List, 15 Dec. 1999).

*Lately I have come to think that this may have in fact been “ordered by Gregor to spy on Boriz Vormoncrief and his party via the means available to him,” since Gregor’s reaction to By’s arrival at Vorhartung Castle would seem to imply that By actually did have an assignment directly from Gregor at the time on top of playing agent provocateur…

Komarr/A Civil Campaign Spoiler

I just realized that the reason Byerly was ‘courting’ Ekaterin in ACC was because ImpSec wanted a set of eyes on her private dealings. They didn’t know that Miles would marry her so quickly and probably wanted a more controllable/neutral pair of eyes on her behavior.

Miles says during his conversation with Allegre that ImpSec was never happy that Ekaterin was involved without being part of any chain of command. And Allegre asks Miles not to talk to Ekaterin until after his analysts can “evaluate her place in this.” I always thought that this would be a desk jockey looking through information, but now I think it’s By nosing around to see if she’s talking to any of the Conservative party.

[sweetfirebird]

Multifandom fic recs!

I mentioned doing a fic recs list the other day, and since I couldn't work on my needlepoint for a while (in which I feel like Mr. Thorton's mother doing her linen embroidering in North & South), I actually did one.

This is a multifandom recs list because it was more fun to just skim through various fandom bookmarks than to do a concentrated list for one show or whatever. Also.. some of these are for fandoms I read in and some are just fics I stumbled across one day, so they could be representative of their fandoms or not I have no idea. {insert shrug emoji here}

These are also all m/m and I think.... fairly cis? I did consider doing some f/f and trans and Rules 63 stuff but uh my bookmarks are a mess. The only fandom where I set aside some genderfuckery aside in any sort of organized fashion is Les Mis with Rule 63 stuff which maybe should get its own post. ? If people wanted?

Anyway, read the tags for each story, etc

Recs across the starboard bow, captain!

Star Wars Rogue One

waaay before the movie. I've recced this before. Chirrut/Baze

A Monk in Good Standing (Must Be in Need of a Bro)

The Eagle

Marcus/Esca

What Big Hands You Have

modern au, Esca is a size queen

From the Depths of His Heart

Canon-era werewolf AU

Póga

Canon-era  Esca teaches Marcus to kiss slow

Devotee

Canon-era gay farmers with some yearning

The Losers

Jensen/Cougar

The First Eight Don't Count

Jensen is a cat sometimes. Like a house cat. Yeah it’s weird for him too.

By Daybreak We'll Be Gone

werewolf AU (sensing a recurring trope here lol)

Inception

(Obv Arthur/Eames.)

Breaking and Entering

Jeeves and Wooster

Misplaced

Bertie has lost something

Voltron (the… whatever the new cartoon’s subtitle was. Legendary Defender?)

(I know that fandom is a hotbed of strife) but I am not/was not involved in any of that. Yikes.)

the electric synthesized pop ballad of why keith can’t have nice things

a/b/o au... but like... he just wants to be good

The Vorkosigan Saga

This is Ivan/Byerly because that is the only ship that matters

Twenty-Year Man

Ivan's getting older and having some realizations despite himself. Also... side note but... carefully and cynically yearning Byerly is a delight.

Original, historical

Darling and the Cinderella Club

Teen Wolf --HOWEVER! These are all Teen Wolf/SGA fusion

Why? Because the space marine vibes are impeccable

All Sterek

Show You What All That Howl is For

The Ring of the Ancestors is Not a Euphemism

Faint is a Medical Term

What We Do in the Shadows

Something Here Will Eventually Have to Explode

Guillermo/Nandor

Venom

Venom/Eddie, obviously

Heartthrob

Good Omens

Good Old-fashioned Lover Boy

Get Religion Quick (cause you're looking divine)

The Hobbit

all Bilbo/Thorin

Rations

pre-adventure sexual tension

The Subways of Men

modern au, but still with hobbits and dwarves

okay and then because idk I just love them finding each other after things

Plant Your Trees

It's Been a Long Day Without You, My Friend

(slight au)

And then one just to be sad

Hold Onto Hope If You've Got It

Les Mis

Enjolras/Grantaire because I am basic aw yeah

The Laurels of Doing is Enough

modern AU

True Love's Kiss

modern AU but with magic

Adequate

The first in a small Star Trek AU series that is cute

A Reversal of Celestial Mechanics

Canon-era, Enjolras takes Grantaire up on his offers… offers Grantaire didn’t realize he was making lol

There is one where Grantaire is fucking Courf while they both discuss/hint at his feelings for Enjolras but I cannot begin to express the chaos of my bookmarks so.... couldn't find it.

And finally...

Check, Please

Dex/Nursey

Bless This Mess and Call It a Home

Magic AU

The Most Room in Our Hearts

Dex sees Nursey holding some kids and gets Feelings about it

(there is a small nurseydex commentfic with sort of a similar bent but like so many things, it was posted to tumblr then deleted so is now lost forever.)

ok this one is uhhh read the notes and tags. It is known to me and @vashti-lives as the one we don’t talk about  aka the 1950s coal miners AU

Strange Lovers

And to finish up, a Ransom/Holster kink/getting together fic that was actually the first thing I read for this fandom.

When You Got Skin in the Game (you stay in the game)

I will post this to pillowfort too but I need to stop and eat first.

[tanoraqui]

rereading Captain Vorpatril’s Alliance (an absolute icon of a book), and thinking with some chagrin that Ivan’s ability to recognize and avoid political danger is really more told than shown throughout the series...which is reasonable, of course, because books are about things happening. So every time we see Ivan is by definition when either Miles drags him in (Miles being one of the very few people he’ll follow without with only moderate complaint into any political or other danger), or the very few times he lets someone else drag him in (Dono, Byerly and Tej). 

But I really would love a short story of, like, Ivan Vorpatril Has a Nice Normal Week, in which the A Plot is Ivan’s latest romance (and fumbling thereof) and the B Plot is moderate excitement at work, at most foiling a light embezzling scheme, more likely about getting a big project done just in time for the deadline...and way back in the C Plot, mostly communicated via other people discussing it, is a major treasonous drama that Ivan sidestepped on page 1 by declining a dinner invitation. Maybe toss in a party scene (part of the romantic A plot) where Ivan casually deftly steers a conversation away from what clearly could’ve become a similarly politically dramatic D Plot. I want stakes so low that everything feels almost anti-climactic.

[fremedon]

Thanks to @everyonewasabird for tagging me!

1) how many works do you have on AO3?

47

2) what’s your total AO3 word count?

486759

3) how many fandoms have you written for and what are they? 37 :D. This is not a question for someone whose main fandom is “Yuletide.”

The fandoms in which I have written more than one fic are Harry Potter (I know, I know, it was a long time ago), Doctor Who/Torchwood/SJA, Star Trek (various), Les Misérables, and Vorkosigan.

4) what are your top five fics by kudos?

Twenty-Year Man, Vorkosigan, Ivan/Byerly

The Constraint of Conscience, Temeraire, Laurence/Tharkay

A Place to Lie Down, my Les Mis sex pollen fic, Enjolras/everyone

Exclusive Content, Sesame Street gen about Muppet issues of representation

Need to Know, Star Trek/Doctor Who, Jack Harkness/Naraht the Horta. Really.

5) do you respond to comments? why or why not?

I always read them. I don’t respond to comments on my Harry Potter fic. I just can’t engage with the source text at all anymore, and that extends to dealing with the fandom. 

I went through a long period where I wasn’t writing at all and I didn’t manage to respond to most comments then, though I loved getting them. Since coming out of that I’ve managed to get back into the habit of replying.

6) what’s the fic you’ve written with the angstiest ending?

Probably one of my old HP fics. I normally try to write things with at least a hopeful ending; despite being in Les Mis fandom I’m not a fan of complete downer endings.

7) do you write crossovers? if so what is the craziest one you’ve written?

I do, and it’s probably the one where Jack Harkness seduces a sentient acid-secreting rock with no sex drive.

8) have you ever received hate on a fic?

No; the worst I’ve gotten is some kind of tone-deaf unsolicited concrit.

9) do you write smut? if so what kind?

I write all the smut. All of it. All kinds.

10) have you ever had a fic stolen?

Not that I’m aware of.

11) have you ever had a fic translated?

Yes! Twenty-Year Man and Life is But a Dream, a Star Trek crackfic, have both been translated into Russian!

12) have you ever co-written a fic before?

Not and actually finished it, not since I was 14. I’ve talked out a lot of not!fic with friends, but generally that kills the impulse to actually write it.

13) what’s your all-time favourite ship?

Oh man. I don’t really do favorites, but my feelings about Kirk/Spock, Holmes/Watson, Valjean/Javert, Enjolras/Grantaire, and Doctor/Master are hardwired into my soul.

14) what’s a WIP that you want to finish but don’t think you ever will?

Oh man. I have started cannibalizing the Les Mis time agents fic for parts, so I think it’s fair to say if I ever do finish it it will be in significantly different form. And I still have a lot of thoughts about a sequel to Twenty-Year Man that I think is also just not going to happen.

Everything else I’m still holding out hope for.

15) what are your writing strengths?

Um. I think I’m pretty good at working through plot ramifications of emotions and emotional ramifications of plotlines. And decent at prosody.

16) what are your writing weaknesses?

I’m absolutely terrible at creating OCs.

17) what are your thoughts on writing dialogue in other languages in a fic?

That’s a very specific question. I think there are very few situations where it’s calIed for. The convention of dropping a few common phrases into English to indicate an accent is exactly the opposite of how people actually use their native languages when speaking in a second language, and usually just looks silly. If your POV character knows the language well enough to follow a conversation fluently, you can just indicate the language the characters are speaking and translate; and if they don’t, they’re probably not going to be picking out words well enough to be able to repeat them.

Fully multilingual characters code-switching, or classically educated characters peppering their speech with quotations, can work as long as you know the languages they’re using well enough to be convincing, and as long as you’re either willing to structure things to teach your readers the phrases they need to know before they become important, or to use a lot of footnotes.

And f your POV character is listening to a conversation in a language they know a little of and speak with effort, and is going to be paying very close attention to each word--or where their learning or reconstructing the language is a plotline--then, yeah, you probably also want to include the exact words they’re hearing or reading.

18) what was the first fandom you wrote for?

Star Trek TOS! Longhand, in notebooks.

19) what’s your favourite fic you’ve written?

That’s a really tough choice. I’m really proud of everything in my top five by kudos; and of my Doctor Who novel The Scourge of Trion; my Left Hand of Darkness/The Dispossessed fic The Color of Shadow; and the July Revolution sex pollen aftermath fic I just completed, To Make the Right Peacefully Interpenetrate the True.

No-pressure tagging @white-throated-packrat, @riotstarruika, @petralemaitre,  and @nonasuch.

[brownpuffball]

Ivan truly is winning on the cover front, I love the way he's looking at Tej. And of course, I love Byerly and his everything. Fingers crossed Miles will get a good cover one of these days!

Y’all can we talk about how dirty they did Miles on the Komarr cover art?

Like, the illustrator went “yes, yes absolutely, love it, I think I’m gonna draw him next to his hot wife just looking so OLD and BUSTED with notes of terminal jaundice.

The lighting? I’m thinking something fun and dramatic to really bring out every wrinkle. Nah that’s not enough lemme add in some reflected light to really make them wrinkles have that extra unnatural shine, I wanna make him look like he might be covered in gold paint. Ekaterin’s skin should be flawless and airbrushed wrinkle free though.

Ooo and then for his hair I’m just gonna make it an absolute fuckin mess! I think I can really sell it by using that lighting to highlight every stray strand and split end. God what a masterpiece.”

I love the Vorkosigan Saga so so so much but it has some of the most hideous covers, especially on audible, it actually gives me the giggles. Big ahh disembodied floating head treatment every time (ooo wow so 90s sci fi!).

They even do him dirty compared to other characters in the series! Like when Ivan gets his own little romance arc he gets to be chilling on a couch smugly sipping wine surrounded by scantily clad babes in silly poses! And Cordelia! Every cover she’s in the artist gives her the absolute baddy queen treatment and she looks so cool and powerful and kickass.

But miles? Old and busted with the big floating heads and random Vulcan eyebrows. The artists really took his negative self image to heart and said let’s make the audience see you the way you see you 😭.

Here’s a little bonus image of a cover for the German print of warriors apprentice. My guy just can’t catch a break lmao.

[wordwordoxfordcommaword]

(h/t to @lightveils on Twitter)

• a fic you love without knowing the source material:

I Wish You Were My Husband by Feynite. 人渣反派自救系统 - 墨香铜臭 | The Scum Villain's Self-Saving System - Mòxiāng Tóngxiù. Luò Bīnghé/Shěn Yuán | Shěn Qīngqiū, Liǔ Qīnggē/Shěn Yuán | Shěn Qīngqiū, Original Shěn Qīngqiū/Yuè Qīngyuán.

AU based on The Dreamer in the Spring Boudoir (familiarity with that story's not required).

Wherein Shen Yuan transmigrates into a harem intrigues romance novel (gay edition), Yue Qingyuan really fucks up, Liu Qingge is not suitable for his job, and no one even remotely sees Luo Binghe coming.

• a cathartic fic:

Not Easily Conquered by dropdeaddream, WhatAreFears. Captain America (Movies). James “Bucky” Barnes/Steve Rogers, Peggy Carter/Steve Rogers, Clint Barton/Natasha Romanov. 

“Ladies and gentlemen of the jury,” Peggy says, “These are the times that try men’s souls.”

AND

A Fine and Public Place by cest_what. Vorkosigan Saga - Lois McMaster Bujold. Ivan Vorpatril/Byerly Vorrutyer. 

High Vor gossip is both a volatile threat and a tool to be used.

• a fic you wish could be a movie:

Ravenous by rageprufrock. Hannibal (TV). M/M.

Clarice Starling meets Hannibal Lecter armed with a copy of the Buffalo Bill file.

• a fic that made you gasp out loud:

Single Use Weapon by Fahye. Kings (TV). Jack Benjamin/David Shepherd, Michelle Benjamin/David Shepherd.

"The king is dead," says Samuels. "Long live the king."

A story about fealty and destiny, spies and secrets, and the things we do to hold onto power.

• a fic that gave you butterflies:

Marks of Fate by Fahye. Captive Prince - C.S. Pacat. Damen/Laurent. 

"You're lying," Damen says. "You walked into Akielos and stole something from me."

Damen visits Vere, Laurent prepares to leave it, and declarations are made before witnesses.

BINGO!

• a fic that made you laugh out loud:

In Defiance of all Geometry by idiopathicsmile. Les Misérables. Combeferre/Enjolras, Combeferre/Grantaire, Enjolras/Grantaire, Combeferre/Enjolras/Grantaire, Cosette/Marius. 

Amis House might not be the biggest student co-op, or the fanciest, but it's got something all its own. Specifically, smoke damage on the kitchen ceiling from that time Courfeyrac lit a political pamphlet on fire.

In which there are secrets, pining, pancakes, and revelations, and sometimes the shortest distance between three points is not a triangle but a circle.

• a fic that made you feel seen:

Worldwide Lonesome by loindexter. 방탄소년단 | Bangtan Boys | BTS. Kim Seokjin | Jin/ Min Yoongi. 

After the BBMA, Yoongi starts bringing guys back to the house.

• a fic you stayed up too late to finish reading:

After Me by rayemars. Check Please! (webcomic). Eric Bittle/Jack Zimmerman. Kent Parson/Original Character(s). WIP

In 2009 Kent "living Taylor Swift song" Parson goes first in the draft, moves to Nevada, and starts an NHL career that includes one Stanley Cup win, one league lockout, a lot of media manipulation, bad blood with several teams, a captaincy, big city politics, and the pressure that comes with some questionable sponsors for a club located in the gambling heart of the United States.

Meanwhile, the Las Vegas Aces learn how to work around the ghost of Jack Zimmermann.

(Not literally.)

• a fic you found at the right time:

What We Pretend We Can’t See by gyzym. Harry Potter. Draco Malfoy/Harry Potter, Hermione Granger/Ron Weasley, Neville Longbottom/Ginny Weasley. 

Seven years out from the war, Harry learns the hard truth of old history: it’s never quite as far behind you as you thought.

[child-of-hurin]

top 5 Vor

Polemic question!!! Polemic question

1. Miles Vorkosigan

2. Kareen Vorbarra

3. Alys Vorpatril and Aral Vorkosigan

4. Ekaterin Vorkosigan

5. Count Vorhalas 👀

[kelasparmak]

ask game: bel!

favorite thing about them: 

there are so many things i love about bel! i think my actual favourite thing is that it’s so adventurous and unabashedly itself, and it Lives Out Loud, which often includes doing some real dumb shit because it thinks either ‘this is the right thing to do’ or ‘this could be funny’.

least favorite thing about them:

can i say the way other people treat it? if not, i guess maybe the fact that sometimes it can be pretty inconsiderate. like, the actual decision to go along with mark’s plan in mirror dance i actually don’t entirely condemn, but taking soldiers into that fight without checking that mark had a proper plan was negligent, kissing mark was probably not a good idea (even if it meant well), it seemed to take a while to start thinking of taura as a person, etc.

favorite line:

i don’t think bel has a lot of oneliners that are great just on their own and out of context - most of its good lines are snarky comments on things other people have said. honestly the one that springs to mind is back in one of the earliest books when they’re all having a dead serious strategy meeting and auson says something to the effect of ‘we’d be hung!’ and bel’s major contribution to this meeting is immediately correcting him to ‘hanged’. that’s the petty shit i live for. i also liked ‘hold your tongue, tung’, because it immediately turns around to miles and goes ‘wasn’t that a great line? i’ve been working on it for years’, like… babe…. you’re so embarrassing….

brOTP:

bel doesn’t have that many ‘onscreen’ friendships so it’s hard to say, i guess. i like the idea of bel and taura becoming really good friends after labyrinth. they can bond over their frilly nighties and taste in men.

and i like the idea of bel and arde (who never interact, if i’m not mistaken) bonding over being the only betans in the dendarii. it’s funny (or not) that bel is the only one who gets the ‘betans are SJWs and/or easy’ jokes, but for some reason no one seems to make those comments about miles or arde. weird, huh?

if we can go with brotps that definitely aren’t canon, i also like the idea of bel and cordelia hanging out, preferably while miles hits his head against the wall trying to forget that his ‘old flame’ (as he put it) has made out with him, his clone, and his stepdad (who screwed both his parents). 

also, bel and byerly impsec shenanigans would be hilarious.

OTP:

miles, for sure. bel and nicol are very cute but i would’ve been over the moon if it had ended up with miles. the first time i read the series, i thought that line to elena, like ‘i’ll tell them i’m marrying bel! and then when i “change my mind” and marry you instead they’ll be super relieved!’ was very unsubtle foreshadowing. and then when mark and bel went off on their adventure and mark nearly cried about bel thinking clones are people, i thought maybe they’d end up together, which would’ve been cool too. but miles would have been the dream.

nOTP:

uhh no one really ships bel with anyone except nicol, miles and occasionally jole. and ivan once or twice, which i’ve only just remembered about but enjoyed deeply. i can’t think of a ship that i’d hate for bel and that anyone would be likely to ship.

random headcanon:

i think there’s a good reason bel doesn’t go back to beta, and i don’t think the reason is genuinely ‘it’s so BORING being treated with respect’. and i think that ties into why bel is super closed off about its family - nicol mentions family in labyrinth and it gets a little evasive, and there’s ‘bel, do you ever wonder why i don’t talk about my family?’ ‘well, there’s a lot of dendarii who don’t….. sir’, and the only time it actually does say anything about its family is that one little quip where miles is making fake small talk and says like ‘oh you’re betan? my mother’s from beta colony’ and bel goes ‘what a coincidence, mine too’. so maybe it has a mother. that’s literally all we know.

i think maaaaaaybe it got into fights as much on beta as it does in the series (maybe with people like cordelia’s mum who are still kind of anti-herm?). from cordelia’s experience and what arde says about the mental health board, it sounds like if you exhibit any off-kilter behaviour then the mental health board just turn up without needing your permission (maybe they need your family’s?) and you get brainwashed until you’re a Shiny Happy Person or whatever. so my personal opinion is that maybe bel ditched beta so it could continue being a disaster in peace.

unpopular opinion:

i don’t think there are any particular popular or unpopular opinions about bel, tbh. i think the closest i get is being mildly disappointed that bel and nicol ended up together? even though they’re very sweet i was rooting for miles to get over his homophobia and transphobia and realise he was actually in love with bel. and i was really really sure it was going to happen so i’m still disappointed that it didn’t.

(there are also more reasons that it’s not my ideal ending, at least not the way it happened, but i’m not gonna go into that right now) 

song i associate with them:

there are lots - maybe sometime i’ll get around to making a playlist. in the meantime, ‘hope on fire’ by vienna teng is a big Bel Song for me. so is ‘dying day’ by brandi carlisle.

favorite picture of them:

every picture of bel is my favourite picture of bel. but if you’re going to make me pick, probably this one or this one.

[qzwrites]

so i think what i'm getting from all this pre-writing is actually, mireille's ex made several attempt to mend fences with her and she ignored them steadfastly bc vulnerability is scary

it's a good thing i was already planning on cousin martin getting a sequel with his own charming barbarian bc he is really getting slammed by this book lmao

from his pov, mireille freaked out and didn't talk to him for ten years, ignoried multiple attempts he made to reach out & mend fences, only talked to him again when she needed something from him, then immediately dumped him again when she figured out how to talk abt her feelings

he's just sitting there like, no it's fine, it's not like you're the only person of our generation in our country with any sense of ethics or morality at all, it's not like i was desperate to have intelligent conversation bc i hate my "friends"

at some point amycta is going to be like "so you are in love with my wife and i don't like that very much" and he's like "well idk what you expect me to do about that, do you see anyone else in this fucking court worth liking" and she's like. you know what. that is fair

and then she's like "how would you like a job" and martin is like "wtf no" and she's like "it's in another country" and he's like "i am always pleased to serve my queen where am i going"

cousin martin is absolutely just me mashing up the parts of ivan and byerly that worked the best for mireille's story but it turns out when i mash up two characters i love that much i get attached. SHRUG EMOJI

[incorrectvorkosigan]

Byerly: Somebody's in love!

Ivan: Yeah right! I just think Tej's cool, okay? It's not like I lay awake at night thinking about her.

[later that night]

Ivan, wide awake: ... Uh oh.

[beccaelizabeth315]

Chapters: 8/8 Fandom: Vorkosigan Saga - Lois McMaster Bujold Rating: Teen And Up Audiences Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply Characters: Ivan Vorpatril, Byerly Vorrutyer, Byerly Vorrutyer's Sister, Donna Vorrutyer | Dono Vorrutyer, Rish, Tej Arqua Vorpatril, Alys Vorpatril, Pidge Arqua Additional Tags: Vorrutyer family values, space mafia family values, Cats Summary:

Ivan agrees to smuggle a teenaged girl onto Jackson's Whole, for totally moral purposes. Naturally, this is the entire Vorrutyer family's fault.

Bookmarker's Notes:

This is a delight. I love how all the pieces and choices seem simple until they click together and feel inevitable but still surprising. And all the people are people.

[kelasparmak]

001: Vorkosigan Saga. 002: Charles Gunn/Wesley Wyndam-Pryce.

OH MAN THIS GOT LONG

Vorkosigan Saga:

Favorite character: Hmmm, tough one. No, just kidding, everyone who’s ever met me knows Bel’s my favourite, hands down, no contest.

Least Favorite character: I mean, there are a lot of baddies to pick from. Ryoval, Ser Galen and Bruce Van Atta all rate highly.

5 Favorite ships (canon or non-canon): This one actually is tricky, since I really really like a lot of the canon relationship dynamics. Byerly and Ivan definitely, Aral and Cordelia (and Oliver Jole, though it’s Aral and Cordelia’s dynamic that I’m particularly fond of), Ethan and Terrence, Simon and Alys, and I think Miles and Bel. (Honourable mentions go to Bel and Nicol, Ivan and Tej, and Elli and Elena, which is a pairing I’d not actually really considered until I got desperate for Vorkosigan fic and ran the Russian works on AO3 through Google Translate and found some really interesting fic.)

Character I find most attractive: My mental images of book characters are generally super vague and I’m eh about attractiveness anyway, but thinking about it I’d probably say Rish, Taura or Dono Vorrutyer.

Character I would marry: I’d be quite happy marrying an awful lot of them, really. Bel, for preference, since I’m practically in actual bona fide love with it.

Character I would be best friends with: I’d like to say Bel, but I don’t think I’m exciting enough. My actual best friends through life have mostly been more like Tej or maybe the younger Kareen, so maybe one of them? Tej and I could definitely bond over language learning. (I would also love to be best friends with Byerly, but again, I don’t think we have the same idea of a good time.)

A random thought: The first thing that springs to mind is my fascination with the fact that Bel and Jole had a fling back in the day. When was this? How (hilariously) would Miles react? I would love for Bel, Nicol, Garnet Five and Corbeau (since he’s the Barrayaran Imperium’s ambassador or attache or whatever to Quaddiespace) to visit Sergyar and pop in on Miles, and have that awkward ‘yes, we’ve met’ conversation when Miles tried to introduce them to each other. Well, awkward for Miles and Jole, at least; Bel and Cordelia would no doubt find it hilarious.

An unpopular opinion: Iiiii don’t really like that more or less everyone ended up paired off to an Appropriately Gendered Spouse, with a bureaucratic position and babies ever after. I mean, that’s an oversimplification and there are exceptions (like Elli, or Ethan and Terrence, though that’s implied rather than explicit and since Athos is men-only it feels a little ‘for lack of alternative Terrence might end up with a guy and if he does it’ll probably be Ethan’) but that’s how it feels to me. I don’t know how unpopular that opinion is, though.

My canon OTP: Aral/Cordelia

Non-canon OTP: Byerly/Ivan (I mean, we’ve essentially had this question already)

Most badass character: I think Taura or Elli, probably? Miles is definitely a contender too, but I suppose because you see him wallowing in self-pity or making it up as he goes or doing extremely silly things pretty often the overall effect is perhaps diminished a little. Though I think overall the sheer amount of obstacles, self-imposed as well as external, that he manages to overcome, might put him at the top of the list.

Pairing I am not a fan of: Leo/Silver, probably. I don’t think it was very ethical for Leo to get involved, at least not at that point - I’m not sure if she was canonically a great deal younger than him or if I’ve just imagined that, but there’s a huge gap in terms of life experience, and I think that given the way Van Atta had exploited her very very recently, Leo should have given her some space and time and the tools to figure out what she wanted before he got involved with her.

Character I feel the writers screwed up (in one way or another): Bothari’s portrayal made me pretty uncomfortable at times. Not sure if it was necessarily a screwup because she writes other mental illnesses pretty well, at least as far as my understanding of them goes, but I felt like with Bothari there was a very fine line being tread between a very complex depiction of schizophrenia (specifically traumagenic schizophrenia) & cyclical abuse on the one hand, and the ‘dangerous and barely-human crazy person’ stereotype on the other.

Favourite friendship: So many. In the interests of not just repeating myself from the shipping questions, though, I really like the development of Miles and Ivan’s relationship from not really Getting each other at all in the first book (and Miles in particular being pretty contemptuous of Ivan), to a close (if constantly mutually exasperating) friendship once they’re a little older.

Gunn/Wesley

when or if I started shipping it: Gosh, it’s been absolutely years since I watched Angel and I only watched it the once, so any of these answers may be completely wrong, but honestly I think it was from the first time they argued.

my thoughts: I really liked their 'odd couple’ dynamic - it reminds me a little of a much more extreme version of Eliot and Hardison’s initial impressions of each other, in that they each have a lot of preconceptions about the type of person the other is and about their worth, but pretty quickly get over it and come to respect each other and (shockingly enough) realised that it was actually really useful that they’d had such different experiences and that they worked much better together than separately. I’d have liked more episodes dealing with their very different backgrounds and attitudes in a more casual setting - I don’t remember how often that came up but I don’t feel like it was very often, or at least not often enough for my liking :P I just wish that phase

What makes me happy about them: I guess I’ve just said it. Got a bit carried away there I guess. 

What makes me sad about them: The goddamn unnecessary love triangle! And everything getting fucked up! Why did this happen! I prefer to pretend that storyline, and the Illyria storyline, and the Grimdark Wesley storyline, didn’t happen, because they were silly and unnecessary. Whedon, you didn’t even have to let my kids be happy, but making them miserable because of internal conflict that wasn’t even in-character for them wasn’t even lazy writing, it would have been lazy writing with different characters, but this required effort! To be bad! Why! (Caveat: possibly the Grimdark Wesley storyline isn’t so much objectively bad as I just didn’t like it. I don’t mind him being emo, that’s a-ok, but his behaviour toward Gunn and Fred was straight-up gross, and while I quite liked Wesley dealing with the consequences of his mistakes, I’d have been happier if he’d learned from them instead of getting worse, lol.)

Things done in fanfic that annoys me: Iiii actually have never read any fic of this series, I don’t think, so I guess I don’t know. I can imagine some things that would and that I wouldn’t be surprised to see done.

Things I look for in fanfic: Well, nothing, but I guess it would be the dynamic that I liked between them in the Good Times. Preferably a ridiculous shenanigans, some near-death experiences, actually talking about their feelings, and a healthy dose of fluff (or h/c). And Gunn being smart as hell, because he is and arguably is better at applying that in practice than Wesley.

My kinks: I am a pure and innocent soul and I don’t even know what a kink is. (Okay, but leaving out the sexual element, I guess even though I was talking about how much I hate Grimdark Wes, I’d probably be interested in hatesex fic set during that period if it was concerned with working out their frustration and betrayal rather than just uncomplicated angry sex) (Also, I can see Wesley being super into Gunn being smart as fuck generally, and specifically into his Lawyer Talk after he got essentially the entire corpus of law and G&S downloaded into his brain. In my head this is not a very sexy thing, it’s very ‘Ooh Mr Darcy’, Wesley is hopelessly enamoured and Gunn is initially bemused but flattered and very quickly gets tired of Wes swooning every time he says something smart, which is way too often for it not to have lost its effect AND YET. And especially if they’re working for Wolfram & Hart together in this scenario, in which case Gunn uses advanced legal terminology often on account of it being his job, which makes it hugely impractical for Wesley to try and jump his bones every time it happens. He’s probably just into the legal jargon and not the Gilbert and Sullivan because that would be a very weird kink and not one I can imagine being sexy at all, but now that I say it, if someone wrote that fic I would read it just out of morbid curiosity.)

Who I’d be comfortable them ending up with, if not each other: Fred! As well as each other! Guys, polyamory, it’s a thing! (If it had to be other people, I’d probably go for Gunn with Fred and Wes with either Angel or Spike. Probably not Lilah.)

My happily ever after for them: No one dies and Gunn has high self-esteem and Wesley stops fucking up everything he touches. Nothing bad happens and The Gang never have to deal with apocalypses or implausibly huge conspiracies or anything, they just hang out being supernatural detectives and doing Season 1-2 type stuff forever. Possibly they are in a triad with Fred but this is not necessary.

[dykeonysus]

Byerly: Somebody's in love!

Ivan: Yeah right! I just think Tej's cool, okay? It's not like I lay awake at night thinking about her.

[later that night]

Ivan, wide awake: ... Uh oh.