#i have some ideas abt how i wanna play around with the nemesis endings + what they mean to caeru
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thegreatyin Ā· 2 months ago
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And thus, with the passing of 24 hours, Caeru's ambition truly comes to an end. Major Nemesis spoilers below the cut- we're talking endgame ambition business here. Mostly on a character RP front.
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The Doomed Scientist made quite a few... choice decisions, in the end. Killing Cups once and for all, recording his story as one of grief-
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And sparing what little remained of Mr Mirrors, leaving it free to roam Parabola as it sees fit.
Some of them, he can explain. Others, he's still left to feel... discontent.
Cups needed to die. That much was certain from the start. It was a tyrant, as all Masters are, and complicit in the bargaining and eventual destruction of four (potentially five) cities, as all Masters are. It was an obstacle. A murderer. A petty monster that felt no remorse even on its deathbed, and it went out of its way to ruin multiple lives just because it felt owed its own sick and twisted idea of revenge.
It killed his first love. It looked him in the eyes and he knew what it had done and he knew from the start it was going to die.
Perhaps, in the end, it knew too. And yet it still pleaded, and wanted to live, and-
It made a bargain.
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A bargain Caeru didn't take.
Not because he didn't want to. Gods, he wanted to. He wanted it. He wanted it more than anything else in the world. To have Greylu back, to give him the gift of life, of love, to show him the wonders of the Neath and the beauty of the correspondence and all of the people Caeru has met and loved and found home with along the way-
But. He couldn't.
Because Cups was a monster. And no matter what, it deserved to die. And he could not, in good conscience, allow it to live.
Even if sparing it meant everything he's ever wanted.
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So he's left here, now. With a bloodied traveling coat, and a bloodsoaked knife, and a favor finally fulfilled.
And nothing to live for. No resurrected lover, no charming visits to Helicon, no slow dances in the living room, no memories to rebuild and lives to live and he won't live again-
Nothing. All he has is a coat born of obligation, not to his love, but to people he's never even met. To lives he's never even touched. To a paramour, still alive, with hair of rose-pink, who doesn't even remember her own brother's existence.
Cups didn't die for Caeru's sake. Cups died for the sake of all who wanted it dead. For the revenger's court, and the ghost screaming in his ear, and the reckoning that will not be postponed indefinitely.
And Caeru, who acted as a tool to carry out their wills? Who all but betrayed his own lover, just to satisfy a cause he never knew existed?
All Caeru is left with, is regret. Regret-
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-And grief.
#yin-thoughts#fallen london#fallen london spoilers#nemesis spoilers#so! nemesis huh!#i have. a lot of thoughts#overall i think heart's desire remains closest to my heart#but that's almost certainly bc of the obvious ''you always remember your first'' bias#there's a lot of problems with nemesis that have been talked to death by other people way more eloquently than i could ever express#(the big notable stopgates littered throughout. the weird pacing at the end. the fact you never meet your actual nemesis til the finale)#but overall i still liked it a lot!! i loved it actually!!! it singlehandedly made me like cups as a master!!!!#not because of anything nemesis actually DID mind you. i just really liked making up things about it#in place of nemesis. actually featuring it.#which could either be a plus or a minus against the ambition depending on what angle you look at it from#but. yeah. i'd say i enjoyed it. i enjoyed it a whole bunch#and now that ive played 2 out of the 4 ambitions and my FL hyperfixation evidently isnt letting up#it's safe to say we're all here for the long haul#tune in (insert miscellaneous time in the future) for when i finally after like a year and a quarter#get to find out what the fuck truly goes down in light fingers#and also keep an eye out for that caeru-centric fic ive been unsubtly alluding to and still need to write.#ive got a whole outline for it and it's. well#you'll all see when (if?) i finish it#i have some ideas abt how i wanna play around with the nemesis endings + what they mean to caeru#(and i do mean endings as in both of them)#and it all may seem. insane. when we get there#but i swear i have a direction plotted in my head#i swear#scoundrelventures#<- the scoundrel isnt mentioned At All in this post but that works as a general FL oc lore tag
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tfw-no-tennis Ā· 4 years ago
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mtmte liveblog issue 13
humansona time, hell yes
OH MAN I forgot about the stuff w/swerve and blurr oof
that panel of perceptor just saying random equations always kills me vhsdjhfkbjhksdfnka
also I love so much that they call perceptorĀ ā€˜percyā€™ that's so cute
I love the implications here that people just Grab minibots and carry them around like luggage bc they are Tiny lmao
ohhhh my god I fuckgin loveĀ ā€˜I'm just wondering if there's time to expand my aura and cleanse the area of aggressionā€™Ā ā€˜I...don't think so, driftā€™ hgbadjfjbaskdfs driftā€™s hippy nonsense delivered completely seriously pairs hilariously with his wholeĀ ā€˜violent guy with a bunch of swordsā€™ thing lmao
also, IM NEVER OVER CYCLONUS SINGING TO TAILGATE, and also the security team mistaking it for cyclonus murdering tg hbhkjadfbjkhsdf cyclonus u icon
and tg looking at cyclonus all heart-eyes, omgĀ 
drift showing rodimus how to swordfight...fellas.....
rodimus, being entirely ignorant to the irony in calling cyclonus and tailgateā€™s relationship strange when he and drift are Right There, being weird gay frat bros
did yall know, I love magnus so much. law dad
magnus sayingĀ ā€˜that's not even a word. id have heard of itā€™ about the wordĀ ā€˜relaxā€™ is so funny godĀ 
rodimus bribing swerve with a bar license to get magnus turnt is hbvhjakdbfhskf
never over rodimus portioning out drifts blood money to the crew for shore leave hubhjsdkhfdbjksd godĀ 
despite tg lying about a good amount of his past, I feel like he rlly DOES see cyclonus as a link to a more familiar time, and that's a large reason why heā€™s so forgiving toward cyc
mannnn the stuff w/blurr and swerve is so depressing in retrospect. swerve is like, such a depressing character the more you think abt him vbhskjdhfbsk jesus
magnus trying to get in on the convo when swerve starts talking statistics oh magnus
idk whatĀ ā€˜the lube pitsā€™ are but I Really do not want to know
ā€˜the temple of the raging prismā€™ sounds fuckin bangin tho
I love seeing everyones humansona!! this art style is pretty simple, but I think it looks cute
rungsĀ ā€˜human nameā€™ beingĀ ā€˜mary sueā€™ lmaoooooo jro w/the self callout
also skidsā€™ name being blank is a nice touch
still not over tg being a baby....poor guy
whirls humansona is so fuckgin good, also swerve looks like a hobbit
magnus basing his avatar on verity is so sweet ;_; I really should read all the wreckers stuff after I finish this reread
THE ABSOLUTE COMEDY OF MAGNUS JUST FUCKGIN PASSING OUT THE INSTANT THE ALOCHOL HITS...ICONIC
WHY would magnus accept a drink from whirl anyways lmao
tailgate is so cute
they rlly just left magnus facedown on the table and kept drinking huh. the irresponsibility....we love it
ARE YOU SURE THAT KILLMASTER IS DEAD, WHIRL? ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT?
rung don't lie, froid is your nemesis
WHY do we never get to hear more about skidsā€™ apparent beef with misfire
rewind calling the swerve/misfire This early, wow
literally Everyone abandoning swerve to deal with magnus hgbvhfjdskdfbhs I fucking love this issue man
GOD I LOVE MAGNUS SO MUCH!!!!!!!! heā€™s such an interesting and unique character and hhhh I love him and his development
like, he was probably the biggest surprise out of everyone who agreed to go on the quest - ostensibly it was to keep order on the lost light, but it would make sense that magnus would get tired of being the Only one who cares about that sorta stuff on boardĀ 
drunk magnus is such a delight oh my god
magnus rlly just wants everyone to be safe :( my daddddd
magnus: I love all my children equally...swerve, rodimus, [looks at smudged writing on hand] dirt
swerve: see, magnus, thatā€™s where youā€™re wrong - I ALSO have crippling depression!
cant believe they bought rodimus a hat vhbhksdfhahsjkdf
HHHHH GOD I FORGOT ABT THATTTT when cyclonus goes bonkers in order to stop rewind from playing the ark 1 footage and inadvertently outing tailgate as a liar....AUGHHHHH THE FUCKING...THE FUCKING ROMANCE OF IT ALL
POOR MAGNUS LMAOOOO
oh rewind :( you should really wonder a little harder where chromedome is right now...oof
everyone jumping on magnus while heā€™s passed tf out is SO fucking funnyĀ 
RUNG, PLEASE, WE REALLY DONT NEED TO THINK ABOUT WHATS AROUND THE CORNER. REALLY DONT
hhhhhhhhhhh I love how cyclonus sat tailgate down and confronted him about lying, but did it privately and not in front of everyone - and he even saved tg from being exposed as a liar, too. AUGHĀ 
I feel like cyclonus is kinda impressed at how effortlessly tg has managed to lie this whole time, and tbh it IS impressive, especially considering tailgate was basically teleported 6 million years into the future and has no idea how the world works anymore, but was still able to lie convincingly. even cyclonus only realized bc of his own past, and not until now
tailgate ;_; ;_; ;_;Ā 
cyclonus: oh no...im soft
tailgate and cyclonus singing ye olde cybertronian tunes together...OUGHHHH my fucking heart bro mY FUCKING HEART.
on that note: the songĀ ā€˜to noise making (sing)ā€™ by hozier is literally about cygate. thank u for coming to my ted talk
UGH GOD SWERVE STOP MAKING ME SO SAD, ITS NOT EVEN THE SWEARTH ARC YET
magnus had to like, get the robot equivalent of a stomach pumping after that hvbskdjfbhskdf jesus they really did almost kill him huh
I consider this issue forshadowing bc it makes 100% sense that minimus would be a Mega Lightweight considering heā€™s like 3 feet tall
the real quest that swerve is participating in isĀ ā€˜the quest to get friendsā€™ and so far its going pretty badly. poor dudeĀ 
godddd the thing that saysĀ ā€˜next: Overlord!ā€™ with a fucking exclamation point I DONT APPRECIATE THAT.Ā 
OHO i forgot abt the canon fanfic at the end of this issue
rung kicking things off with some good ole bodily workings-based dreadĀ 
ok but being so awed by the construction of your speciesā€™ anatomy that you wanna fall on the floor in amazement? that's a whole ass mood and I do frequently stare at walls for long periods of time, thinking about the marvel that is the human body. so rung is validĀ 
FROID NAME DROP LMAO. also yet again, are you SURE heā€™s dead?? are you????
the nameĀ ā€˜froidā€™ cracked me up almost as much asĀ ā€˜rigor morphisā€™ did when I first read this...robot-based science puns! woohoo!
rung rlly b out here thinking abt overlords lips.....
ā€˜forced browsing is not the autobot wayā€™ lmao skids
also fr tailgate defs thinks that whirls actually name is nutjob
the entire segment of cyclonus browsing and everyone watching him and commenting is just. golden
oh no. don't make me think of rewind and his tiny memory sticks that he carries around. I'm NOT READY
magnusā€™ brutal read on rodimus and the fact that heā€™s more suited, personality-wise, to wartime than peacetime? oof. love it
I ALSO love that a big part of this issue was magnus admitting, in less direct terms, that HE isn't made for the post-war life either - his strict adherence to the rules and constant vigilance isn't exactly the best mindset for peacetime, for him or the people under his command
magnusā€™s hatred of metaphors and similes and the like....hvbsdjkfbasjhdf I love him
MAGNUS ILY...heā€™s trying SO HARD cut him some slack. i think his jokes are. yeah!
oh goody this text usedĀ "rodimusā€™s" so I guess that's canonically correct and I haven't been using grammar incorrectly as I had fearedĀ 
rodimus sitting ON his desk and doodling on it...adhd icon
rodimus calling rung a psychotherapist, which was rungā€™s grounds for a nemesis hvbhjabfdskfnkks
rung: as I'm sure you know I take patient confidentiality VERY seriously
narrator: That Was A LieĀ 
AUGH this hurts...rung trying to get justice for red alert but rodimus is in on the overlord stuff :( ouch
so issue 13! I fucking love this issue. just some good ole funney space hijinks, with some nice relationship development for tg and cyc - plus a revelation about tailgate - and some characterization for swerve and magnus. plus we get to see humansonas, which is always fun. augh I love this comic, and I am SO not ready for the next few issues, good lord
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kogo-dogo Ā· 4 years ago
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iā€™ve never heard of the video game series u talked about in that last ask, but i loved ur character analysis for torque! iā€™m very curious to hear abt dr killjoy if you want to share ur thoughts there too? even just the name dr killjoy is bitching as HELL
You do not know how happy it makes me to talk about Dr. Killjoy.
Torque may be one of my favorite characters of all time, but Dr. Killjoy isā€¦ heā€™s up there. And heā€™s a lot more fun to talk about because he is a fabulous disaster, as well as the poster child for the phrase ā€œthe road to hell is paved with good intentions.ā€ Since Torque is such a vague character, whose personality and backstory are revealed gradually and oftentimes subtly over the course of two games, Killjoy is really the motherfucker who steals the show and is very obviously the favorite of the creators. Even the other sentient spirits on Carnate Island take a backseat to him, and he ends up being a massive driving force in the plot and the one who actually helps the player unravel the man theyā€™re playing as.
(I canā€™t even say ā€œthe guy who youā€™re put in the shoes ofā€ because Torque doesnā€™t wear shoes.)
Spoilers follow, but Iā€™ve already told yā€™all you probably donā€™t wanna actually play these games.Ā 
Dr. Killjoy is the most well-intentioned, terrible person you will ever see in a video game, probably.
Dr. Killjoy is the spirit of a deceased alienist who was the head doctor at a facility known as The Carnate Institution for the Alienated in the late 1800s/early 1900s. Basically, heā€™s a psychiatric doctor who hails from a time when lobotomies were still in high fashion and experimental procedures on the mentally ill were less than savory, to put it lightly. Killjoy specifically was known for being rather extreme even at the time, having a very experimental mind and extreme delusions of grandeur. While itā€™s never outright said he was anything beyond ā€œinsane,ā€ he operates in a perpetual manic state and is very, very animated and melodramatic.
How melodramatic? He acts like he has a live studio audience at all times. His whole schtick is that he appears from old film projectors. In a game that is mostly mired in the realm of realism (barring the ghosts and monsters), he creates a fucking weird-ass magic machine that lets you cast spells and basically says, ā€œTa-da! Look! I made brain magic that will cure your psychosis, Torque!ā€
(It does not, in fact, cure his psychosis.)
The problem with Dr. Killjoy is that heā€™s very much a product of his time, and obsessed with the idea of scientific progress over all else. He firmly believes that what heā€™s doing will further a cause that will eventually work out to help people, but the lives lost in the process are just par for the course. The remnants of his hospital (still used as of the first game, albeit as a hiding spot for COs to smoke, drink, and party) are littered with the mummified bodies of former patients and captured corrections officers that Killjoy decided to experiment on.
He will gladly tell you about all of the dead shit laying around his house, too. He loves to hear himself talk.
In the first game, he fixates on Torque as a special interest case and is absolutely obsessed with figuring out how to ā€œfixā€ him. Most of the time this involves testing him in positively batshit ways. Sure, it probably seems like bad form nowadays to lock a guy in a burning cafeteria or a room full of monsters with shivs for hands, but to Killjoy? Makes perfect sense, since you can really see a manā€™s character based on how they react to high-stress situations, and whatā€™s more high-stress than a near-death experience?
But whenever he shows up, whenever he has anything to say, whenever he decides to grace Torque with his presence, itā€™s always under the belief that he is doing something good for the guy. While he never outright says anything to the effect of ā€œI care about you,ā€ his chipper attitude and his absolute determination to coax Torque into doing what he feels will be for his benefit makes it obvious. Heā€™s adamant about every death trap he lures Torque into or every ā€œdiagnosisā€ he tosses out or every ā€œtreatmentā€ he devises, and is even the only character from the first game to follow him into the secondā€¦
ā€¦ Because he feels like Torque isnā€™t well yet, and he cares enough about this random guy that heā€™s just going to tag along and try to find a way to help him out. In all the worst possible ways.
Heā€™s equal parts a perfect foil to Torque and a driving force to the narrative, being the one who lays down most of the scraps you get about Torqueā€™s mental health (though a lot of it is conjecture, outdated, and wrong), the island, the monsters, and even the drama in Torqueā€™s life. Heā€™s like a weird, gossipy old lady with a very out-of-date medical degree, and he is delighted whenever he sees his favorite patient and excitable about pretty much every goddamn thing he sees.
And itā€™s funny to watch Torque and Killjoy interact because Killjoy is so exuberant and loud, and Torque is just Very Done With This Shit. In the first game, Torque mostly responds to him by glaring at him stone-faced until he stops talking, and in the second game he seems actively annoyed whenever Killjoy has the audacity to open his mouth. And Killjoy? Does not give a single iota of a shit, and will just gleefully quote Othello at Torque as heā€™s trying not to get himself killed, or idly chit-chat with him while heā€™s struggling to figure out how to get out of a room Killjoy locked him in.
But I cannot overstate that despite how annoying, how unpredictable, how dangerous, and how utterly in love with himself Killjoy is, he is absolutely dedicated to the idea of curing Torque. There is actual good intent in what Killjoy is doing, and he seems to legitimately give a damn about Torque and vouch for him to pull through all of the trials thrown at him. Again, this man essentially built a magical machine to try to cure schizophrenia and, even if it worked about as well as shining him with a UV light, thatā€™s some dedication.
Hell, when Torque escapes Carnate Island, as previously stated, he follows him just to double down on helping him understand what is going on and making sure he gets a shot at treatment. Heā€™s so fucking flippant and apathetic with literally anyone else he encounters (all the people Torque is trying to save mean nothing to him), but he is rooting for this man so bad. So bad.Ā 
There are hints dropped that Killjoy has known Torque for a while longer than even Torque was aware of (and even an implication that he was acquainted with Torqueā€™s dead mother), and heā€™s just so disdainful of Blackmore, Torqueā€™s nebulous nemesis, and when compared to the other spirits across both games, heā€™s actually the only one attempting to offer any assistance at all. Horace Gauge (the ā€œgoodā€ spirit) mostly just whines about how much pain heā€™s in and how unfair life is, and Hermes (my EXTREMELY PROBLEMATIC THIRD FAVORITE of this series) is actively trying to kill Torque or convince him to kill everyone around him. Creeper and Copperfield in Ties That Bind are just irredeemably awful andā€¦ yeah.
Yeah. Donā€™t look up either of those last two.
Killjoy is of the mind that he and Torque are a team, it seems, and this ghost would follow him to the ends of the earth for no reason other than to make sure he succeeded at defeating his inner demons, basically.
ā€¦ Ugh. Okay. I canā€™t really do Killjoy any more justice in words. Hereā€™s every cutscene involving him from the first game. Ignore how ugly this game is. Also, I know I linked it before, but he also has a really good boss theme.Ā 
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