#i hate how they make post death Gwen into some pure angel as if she didn’t hate superhero’s and woulda leave Peter a verbal lashing
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need to preface this by saying I looooove Felicia sm but god it’s so frustrating that when she pops up she gets to keep her personality, her depth, her everything, even in like her very few appearances but MJ has to get EVERYTHING WIPED AWAY even in the comics??? but literally the only close to faithful adaptions of her are spectacular, some of the 90s show and PART of the raimi movies and it’s only slivers!!!! And usually if mjs around Gwen doesn’t exist so we never the catalyst to her and peters bond, their shared grief that Peter can’t understand at first <\3
#and tbh Felicia is getting done DIRTY rn#but so is like. everyone rn#aand I hate to compare two bad bitches to each other#but what I liked about mj Felicia and Gwen is how DIFFERENT THEY ARE#i hate how they make post death Gwen into some pure angel as if she didn’t hate superhero’s and woulda leave Peter a verbal lashing#because she didn’t know he was spider-man when she died and that’s the tragedy!!! Gwen was never perfect none of them were#mj. god I can’t even talk about her without getting angry. they’re massacring my girls yall#even outside of their relationships with Peter they were such rich characters… Gwen a lil less but still!#I just want a semi-faithful adaption of spider-man in his college years up until adulthood#let him be a science teacher let mj be a model/actress/drama teacher who despite not being a superhero knows something about living two live#let Felicia be her morally grey self without taking away her depth#let Gwen rest. I’m#tired of them bringing her back and holding her over peters head as if he didn’t finally get to move on. he loved her. he loved her so much#that he respects her memory by not letting the world stop anymore. she’s dead but let her have her anger her flaws. the fact that she was#a bit of a bully in the beginning was interesting!!! I love women <3#anyway I’m gonna read renew ur vows and parralell lives and maydays run and pretend Peter b Parker is 616 Peter#also also this isn’t to say the Felicia doesn’t get watered down too because she does. they treat her so bad
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giuliano de medici?
Obligatory disclaimer here, anon, I’m really not a fan of this show and Giuliano de Medici. I think it’s a terribly written show and he’s a terribly written character, and even though it’s no secret I find Bradley James to be one of the most beautiful people alive, I’m going to go with
Not My Type | Alright | Cute | Adorable | 🤗Pretty🤗 | Gorgeous | LORD MERCY
Mind you, when I say ‘pretty’, I mean so goddamn beautiful I was willing to wade through THREE seasons of utterly infuriating bullshit just for him! (OK, two, because I still haven’t summoned the willpower to sit through season 3 even though I absolutely still plan on doing it 😭😭) I mean, just look at this man’s eyes:
He’s so gorgeous, I could weep 😭
Also, I’m not going to pretend even for a second that the fact that the costumes gave off such strong Arthur vibes didn’t have anything to do with me sitting through this nonsense and almost enjoying it. When he said ‘I don’t have time for this,’ in this very scene, I got hit over the head with so much deja vu, because it is Arhur’s line, and it was totally Arthur’s delivery! His battle scenes gave me life, but why were they so short? Why was there not more? Why does everything about this shitty show have to be so goddamn unsatisfying? Did the Medici producers not see Merlin season 5? Did they not see what this man can do? Such a wasted opportunity, oh my fucking God!
Anyway, rant incoming:
Mind you, I don’t blame Bradley for the unsatisfactory mess Giuliano turned out to be, he did the best he could with the nothing he was given. Only Lorenzo got some semi-decent writing (and even this was not consistent), but Giuliano got such nonsense story arcs, I was sitting there not believing my eyes and ears! I’ve seen gutter trash soap operas with more believable cliche romance! Hell, I’ve seen twelve-year-old girls write better self-insert fanfiction! Even cartoons have better villains than that caricature of a husband, I was laughing out loud at what they were trying to get us to swallow! I mean that line, “It’s not the mask that attracts me, it’s what lies beneath it,” OMG, YOU’VE SEEN HER TWICE IN YOUR LIFE AND SPOKEN THREE WORDS TO HER, JUST SHUT UP!! 😣😫😭
It never gets better, unfortunately, and they wasted the character on this laughable romance instead of doing just about anything else with Giuliano! More of his relationship with Lorenzo, with Bianca, with Lucrezia, or even with Francesco! Hell, I would have even taken Sandro (even though the guy playing him can’t act to save his life and the character is beyond annoying)! Or, I don’t know, and this is just a radical idea here, they could have made Simonetta less two-dimensional and given us an actually believable romantic sub-plot with properly developed characters!
Oh, Gwen, how I missed you! I was forced to eat my words on each and every criticism I ever made about how poorly Arwen was written on Merlin, because it was perfect, perfect writing in comparison! So good, it could be taught in a literature master class! Oh my God, just how do you take two such beautiful people like Bradley and Matilda, put them together and end up with something so infuriatingly nonsensical, forgettable and bland? Colin Morgan has spoiled me and I confess that there was a moment in all my frustration where I had an ugly thought that Bradley James just has no chemistry with women on screen at all, but that’s not really true, because even at it’s worst, Arwen was never this bad and there was never a time when he and Angel actually made me roll my eyes at some of the worst pieces of dialogue I’ve ever heard. Then, of course, there was his performance with Barbara Hershey in Damien, which was on a whole another level of intense, so I have to conclude that the reason Giuliano and Simonetta and that whole ridiculous subplot were so terrible is because the writers could not write for shit.
Also, as much as I love Bradley, I feel like he was tragically miscast in this role. I just didn’t buy him as Daniel’s younger brother at all. Not only is Bradley older IRL, he has the older brother vibes as well. It’s in his voice, his posture. Better writing for Giuliano notwithstanding, I feel like this show could have been vastly improved if Bradley and Daniel had switched roles. Again, did none of these people see Merlin? Did they not see how iconic Arthur was and what Bradley can do? Because, damn, that man has presence when you give him the proper material to work with, and they took advantage of none of it! I like Daniel, I really do, but even though he was given the best material on this show, he just didn’t fully deliver and I have yet to see him in anything where I am impressed by his performance and not just sitting there for his pretty face.
And since this has devolved into a looooooooong post that no longer has anything to do with the hotness of Giuliano de Medici, let me just mention him:
Who is this guy and how do I get more of him, because, OMG! 😍🔥🔥🔥😍
He has the most fascinating face I’ve seen in a while, and the way he moves and carries himself is mesmerising! He deserved better-written villainy than what he was given! This show truly did not deserve its cast! Francesco Pazzi was so terribly written, it’s laughable, and yet, here was this guy, stealing the show left and right, in spite of the shit material he was given to work with! Somebody please cast him in something more worthy (preferably in English, or at the very least with English subtitles so that I can watch)! 😭😭
The thing that infuriates me about this series is that they had some fantastic actors here that totally deserved better, such a fascinating period to work with and some of the most interesting figures in history and they spent all their time and money on making them as cliche, two-dimensional, cartoonish and bland as possible.
Also, I can’t end this post without mentioning how much I loved Sarah Parish as Lucrezia! The woman is perfect, OMG! 😍 The wives, in general, were too good for their husbands in both the seasons I watched so far. The mistresses can go choke, though, and I hated how much they tried to white-wash adultery all over the place. In addition to the poor writing, this show sent out some really gross messages and did nothing to call out all the misogynistic tripe.
I must exclude Simonetta from my mistress-hate because she died a horrible death, and frankly, other than that, there was not much there for me to perceive her as a real character anyway. I wanted to like her so much because I saw the gifs on Tumblr before actually watching the show, but the writers gave me absolutely nothing to work with and in the end, all I was left with was that she died all alone and with no help or comfort, sick, cold and thirsty, which is one of my big personal fears. The fact that the writers did this to her for no logical reason but to play up Sandro’s and Giuliano’s selfish man-pain - after I really did not buy either of them actually loving her - was just an additional disgusting layer on this poorly written story arc. She deserved better.
In conclusion, if it wasn’t for Bradley James being pretty, I would have quit this rubbish halfway through season 1 (if anyone is interested in reading just how much I hated it, you can find all my bile here). Season 2 was just as bad, but Bradley, Daniel and Matteo made intolerable characters bearable, which was something Richard Madden was unable to pull off. Of course, all my pure love goes to Contessina, Lucrezia and Clarice, because they were the only characters that I genuinely enjoyed in this mess and didn’t just put up with because I liked the people playing them.
#how hot is that character#medici#giuliano de medici#bradley james#medici review#my nonsense#i hate this entire show so very much#the cast deserved do much better#anonymous
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reaction post typed while watching SPN 12x15 “Somewhere Between Heaven and Hell”
I HAVE A LOT TO SAY ABOUT THIS. including (but not limited to) smart!Dean, headcanons about demon reproduction, Destiel, children wishing death on an enemy, Sam’s pink eyeshadow, fandom theory, politics, bears, and the pronunciation of Cas’ name
05:15
i’m sort of pre-offended by this because cas wasn’t in the promo
why would you put dean in glasses if cas isn’t there to appreciate it huh???
(that said, davy perez wrote “stuck in the middle (with you)” so he clearly gets it)
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05:20
this bear video reminds me of that girl screaming at the bear who’s eating her kayak
“BEEEAAAARRRRR”
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nU5cMZymSr0)
wow ignore the youtube comments. much salt very negative
i thought the whole thing was hilarious
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05:24
“will you marry me”
shoot this can only end horribly
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05:27
“first of all it’s weird you know how much underwear i’ve packed”
this script tho
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05:27
“inside out”
bruh that’s not gonna fucking help
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05:28
MISHA COLLINS IN THE CREDITS AT THE BOTTOM MY EXCITEMENT JUST WENT FROM A 5 TO A 10
EEEEEE
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05:29
can someone tell me why the winchesters are referring to the bmol as hobbits
sam’s got mike down as “frodo”
i guess it’s to do with the accents. idk i always thought of middle earth as a new zealand thing rather than “an actor from britain” thing
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05:32
sam: “the computer told me”
dean understands the fucking computers okay, don’t give me this “simplify it for lil deanie weenie” shit, you motherfuckers
who built an EMF meter out of an old walkman in season 1, huh
who fixes his car and, i assume, fixes the wiring too, huh
who uses the internet to find porn and probably download a lot illegally and therefore needs to know how computers work, huh
who has evaded law enforcement while using their software to find cases, huh
whO HAD A BEST FRIEND NAMED CHARLIE BRADBURY WHO KNEW HOW COMPUTERS WORKED, HUH
TELL ME SHE DIDN’T TALK ABOUT COMPUTERS AND GEEKY SHIT NON-STOP AND DEAN WAS ABLE TO KEEP UP
HUH
HUH
CASH ME OUSSIDE HOWBOW DAH
seriously i’mma fucking fight you if you say dean doesn’t understand how a computer program could send cases to his phone
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05:34
sam’s still wearing pink eyeshadow
headcanon: it’s a fasHION CHOICE QUIT JUDGING ME DEAN MEN CAN WEAR MAKEUP IF THEY WANT
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05:35
i love that dean went straight from “baby wipes in the car” to “i’m using the fancy shampoo”
wow when this asshole decides to delve into self-care he goes all the fucking way
sidenote: then a zoom in on john’s baseball bat, ie. symbol of BRUTAL MASCULINITY which dean left behind to use the fancy shampoo
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05:38
OH MY GOD IS SAM TALKING TO MARY WHILE DEAN TALKS TO CAS
IDK WHY BUT THAT’S REALLY CUTE
for a second i forgot dean and cas aren’t actually married BUT THEY TOTALLY ARE
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05:40
I’mma cry cas still puts the fbi badge upside down
oh god i fucking love him so much
i don’t understand why anyone would dislike him
i really, truly don’t
he is the purest more wholesome character and I’M LITERALLY VIBRATING RIGHT NOW I’M SO HAPPY TO SEE HIM
I’VE MISSED HIM
OH GOD IF I’M THIS DELIGHTED TO SEE HIM I CAN’T IMAGINE WHAT DEAN FEELS WHEN HE SEES HIM
honestly if i told dean right now how happy i am to see cas, would he roll his eyes, or would he duck his head and smile ?
...option one? probably. option two: that’s jensen about misha
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05:44
“agent solange”
OKAY THERE IS ONLY ONE OPTION HERE AND THAT IS THAT CAS IS A HUGE APPRECIATOR OF BLACK CULTURE AND MUSIC AND/OR THE KNOWLES FAMILY
I’M SO PROUD OF HIM
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05:46
see this?
he-heyyyy!! herb nelson who runs this joint
the deadly duo need to fucking pay attention, this is how you get a random side character to be interesting and not just rattle off boring by-the-book introductions
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05:48
THE QUEEN’S HEAD ON AN ALIEN
I FEEL LIKE THIS ROOM WAS DECORATED TO MAKE MISHA BREAK CHARACTER AND LAUGH
I ALSO SEE “LIZARD PEOPLE” AND ILLUMINATI TRIANGLES
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05:51
herb: “most sheeple can’t handle the truth”
me at age 12
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herb: “i’m woke”
i’m ENJOYING THIS SO MUCH
herb: “palm pilot, more like a tracking device”
and this was written before all the stuff about samsung tvs recently. that kind of shit never stops and it’s been going for forever. what is it about people and wanting to spy on other people
i just googled “samsung” and apparently the south korean president was just removed in correlation, one hour ago (disclaimer: i only read the headline, i’ll read the rest later)
oh boy, what a time to be alive (/sarcasm)
(but actually tho. something big happens in south korea and we know about it by typing a single word, that’s cool)
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05:57
cas just taking things and walking away
imagine him shoplifting in plain sight and security just being like “???”
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05:58
dean’s undercut seems fresh
i wonder if he shaves the back of his head himself or he goes to a barber every few weeks or if sam does it
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06:00
“much handsomer brother”
at least we can say that, for all dean’s insecurities, at least he knows he’s hot as shit
(but also that could easily be overcompensation, and he thinks sam is more attractive. oh god what a mess he is)
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06:02
if i were gwen and two giant dudes came to the door i’d probably ask for them to stick around while i wait for someone else to COME TO MY FUCKING RESCUE
jeez who lets two men into their house just because they have badges and well-balanced faces
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06:04
yeah you go gwen!!!
don’t need nobody telling you bullshit
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06:06
this scene of dean saving gwen from the hellhound seems reminiscent of that time he got torn to shreds by hellhounds
the room setup seemed similar at least
i wonder if that makes her a dean parallel character, or if it’s meant to remind the audience of dean’s history with hellhounds
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06:09
lucifer to crowley: “hm. kinky.”
this show does this amazing thing where it gets as close as fucking possible to being the gayest thing on earth with every character being canonically and violently queer without actually being gay or queer or canon or count as representation at all
i don’t think queerbaiting has ever, ever been done to this level in history
sometimes i wonder what all the heterostraight dudebros (TM) think when they see this kinda stuff
i personally know a giant black dude in his late 30s who watches this show and 100% of ALL of this stuff goes right over his head. he watches for the brothers fighting monsters, and doesn’t understand cas. his wife Gets It and she’s a feminist who Cares About Things, and even though she doesn’t analyse the show, she understands why i ship destiel and feel the need to write novels about their relationship
my only other experience meeting heterostraight dudebros in my life (holy shit how lucky am i) was at a convention a few years back, kim rhodes was up on stage and there were these two sweaty, snotty dicks in front of me, buttcracks showing, booing every time anyone dared to mention female characters or cas or destiel. like i’m p sure they were just there because kim rhodes is hot and has boobs and talked about guns one time (i mean, not that that isn’t a valid reason to watch the show or enjoy it.)
but i found it interesting to see the difference between them (the minority) and the rest of the people in the room (flamboyantly queer mostly-women with hearts full of love for cas)
(on that note, why does cas seem to be the dividing entity between pure wholesome fans and the aggressive hate-speech kind of fans? is there some kind of thing about cas that makes you love him if you have a good heart or something idk)
(although that’s not strictly true because kim rhodes said jody would use cas as a human shield because he’s sorta useless, and kim was still one of the coolest and kindest people i’ve ever met)
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06:29
i love the thought of fetus gwen wanting a) a hello kitty backpack, or b) the death of an enemy
...........i was joking but typing this immediately makes me think of that time i was like 7 or 8 or 9 years old and took extracurricular maths at a lady’s house after school, and she was nice, and she gave us juice and biscuits. except i hated the fact i had to do EXTRA MATHS so, so SO MUCH that i used to wish she’d drop dead and i wouldn’t have to do it any more.
and then she died of cancer. and her kids (my age) were left motherless and i’ve never really gotten over that
i try and remind myself that death doesn’t work like that but how the fuck /?? why
i really hope i don’t have death note psychic powers
but after that experience i’ve never once wished anything bad on anyone. if i do by accident i immediately un-wish it just in case. come to think of it, i think that experience alone turned me into a more tolerant, empathetic person
rather than wish bad things on bad people, i wish that they learn how to understand the people they’re hurting and work to reconcile their wrongdoings
but dear god i still feel bad
(edit: not that i’m saying my maths tutor was a bad person, i’m talking about like... nazis. punching nazis is still a means to an end though)
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06:39
quietly wondering if dean ever wanted a hello kitty backpack
OH NO
TINY FETUS DEAN LOOKING AT NICE PRETTY THINGS AND JUST KNOWING HE CAN’T HAVE THEM SO NOT EVEN TRYING TO HOPE
wow it’s way too easy for me to hurt my own feelings
(see also: Raising Hell in a Hotel)
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06:42
regarding the theft of demon babies
given we’ve never heard about demons breeding (as far as i know), i’ve long held this headcanon/theory that demons (who were originally angels, corrupted by torture) bred by sealing deals. that’s their motivation for making demon deals: they make a deal, they collect a soul at the end of 10 years, take it to hell, make it torture other souls, and eventually a new demon is sired/born. and the new demon is the sire demon’s baby, in a way. they make deals as a form of reproduction.
which doesn’t fit with the idea that demons have actual small crying babies
so... i guess those would be made if two possessed people copulated? but if angel babies are a huge deal in this universe, wouldn’t demon babies be some other bizarre plot twist? or is this demon baby stealing thing meant to be a throwaway line????
someone explain me a thing
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06:48
OKAY SCRATCH THAT THE BABIES ARE FOR EATING
all right we’re all good
i still think demons breed by making deals
..........but actually though, what happens if two possessed people made a baby (not that i want to know in canon, because consent issues)
also where the fuck are demons getting babies to eat
is there a black market baby eating demon ring
is this a common occurrence
did a dingo eat her baby or was it demon interference
are there legends or competitions about the most daring baby thefts
I HAVE SO MANY QUESTIONS
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06:54
dean either likes posies or koalas
or both
someone please make cute fanart of dean happily cuddling a koala, lying down in a field of pink/bisexual-flag-coloured posies
please
i need it
because of reasons
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07:00
i like how it’s the white demon who’s grovelling and the black demon’s just chill and talking to lucifer like an equal
that’s cool
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07:02
dean’s gentle “take care of her”
IT’S OKAY SAM I THOUGHT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT GWEN TOO
sometimes i forget dean’s an asshole who cares more about his car than anything else
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07:03
i still want that episode, where the impala is either a beautiful badass 45-year-old black woman with tattoos and scars, or a foxy grey-haired dude, either of whom could seduce dean in 0.3 seconds
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07:06
mmmmmmmmmmmm i loooove how this angel says cas’ name
“kas’tyl”
mmmmmmmmm say it again
i love how everyone always says it differently but it’s always beautiful
(my own name has been pronounced 300 different ways and it always sounds like me somehow, and i’ll still respond. everything from “al-may-oze” to “ee-lumz” to “el muss”. my nickname Elmie is a derivative of Almaas because of mispronunciation followed by an autocorrect error and i love it anyway)
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07:11
kelvin: “all the paaw’r of heav’n behand you”
dear god i love how this angel talks ;A; i’m swooning
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07:13
kelvin: “don’t get me wrong, i love earth, it’s quirky. it smells like hay. but it’s not home, is it?”
OOOH BOY MORE CAS CHOOSING HIS HOME ARC
YEAH GIVE ME SOME OF THIS
but please let him choose dean
(or don’t, and watch dean die inside some more. that’d be fun) (/sarcasm)
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07:19
JOSHUA
FOR YEARS I’VE BEEN WONDERING ABOUT HIM
ALL HAIL DAVY PEREZ FOR INCLUDING SO MANY ACTORS/CHARACTERS OF COLOUR
I’M SO RELIEVED SOMEONE ON THE WRITING TEAM HAS THEIR HEAD SCREWED ON RIGHT
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07:22
cas is so beautiful ;~;
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07:23
white demon: “only thing i care about is Making Hell Great Again”
i think it’s fair to say that anything akin to those words in that order inspire a fireball of R A G E inside me
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07:25
fuck
i saw it coming
is anyone making a death toll for characters of colour this season
of all the things i’m enjoying from this episode, the aspect of “as soon as a black dude sees a white dude as an equal and wants something in return for his services to their shared society, he deserves punishment” is not one of them
not cool
i mean the white dude dies too, which turns it into a political “trump fucks with minorities first and the white people are next and somehow they think they’re being blessed” but STILL
i guess the fact there’s other surviving characters of colour this episode makes it less shitty
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07:28
DEAN IN GLASSES
i’m still salty but AAHHH
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07:33
eyyyyyyy dean said thanks to crowley for saving cas
good
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07:33
crowley: “maybe i’ve rubbed off all over you”
aaaaaaaaaaand we’re back to the gay
mm
i hope people never forget that they canonically banged, as problematic that relationship is/was
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07:35
they. look. so. damn. good. in. glasses.
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07:36
dean looks like he either belongs in the x files or scooby doo
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07:38
oooo the carrrrrrrrrrrr
dean’s gonna be pissed
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07:43
oh shit the music changed very very subtly as lucifer hits crowley’s face
i suddenly get the feeling crowley’s gonna die
he just got his redemption and NOW HE’S GONNA DIE ISN’T HE
I HATED HIM BUT
LIKE
NOW I DON’T WANT HIM TO DIE
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07:45
oh good
okay
man that was a weird emotion
now i’m back to hating crowley again
i guess it’s fun to hate the baddies
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07:47
it’s really nice to have a phone call between dean and cas but see both of them
weird how rare that is
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07:48
DEAN BEING ABLE TO JUDGE CAS’ EMOTIONS THROUGH HIS VOICE AND THEN GETTING WORRIED
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07:49
sam: “no... it’s.. uh.... mick davies”
oh so THAT’S why gwen told sam her story about lying to her boyfriend. i was thinking it was odd sam was the one hearing that, since dean usually gets an earful of people’s sob stories that Mean Things In His Own Life
so her story made sam tell dean the truth
gwen did so much this episode!!! affecting the season-long plot and saving herself and shit!!! yee
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07:51
THIS PINK EYESHADOW THOUGH
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07:56
wow that was a lot of stuff for one episode
good!!!! very good
9.5/10, could be improved by a bechdel test pass
i don’t really have much to add, since i said it all while watching, which is why this took me nearly 3 hours to watch (over 3 hours to finish this post)
but yep. good solid episode, i wish more were like this
so damn good to see cas!!! but the fact he still doesn’t feel like he has a home makes me sad
DEAN AND SAM REALLY NEED TO INCLUDE HIM IN MORE THINGS AND SMOTHER HIM IN HUGS AND GIVE HIM GIFTS AND STUFF
i think it’s because he’s still riding the border between brother and not-brother and doesn’t really know where he stands
poor baby
dean, you gotta cowboy up and tell your angel you love him back already
aaaah
also shoutout to director nina lopez-corrado for that super neat shot of the hellhound, seen through the glasses on the ground
#12x15#somewhere between heaven and hell#season 12#Davy Perez#spn spoilers#Elmie watches things#post of postines#this one is LOOOOONG#but i really enjoyed typing it
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#and tbh Felicia is getting done DIRTY rn
#but so is like. everyone rn
#aand I hate to compare two bad bitches to each other
#but what I liked about mj Felicia and Gwen is how DIFFERENT THEY ARE
#i hate how they make post death Gwen into some pure angel as if she didn’t hate superhero’s and woulda leave Peter a verbal lashing
#because she didn’t know he was spider-man when she died and that’s the tragedy!!! Gwen was never perfect none of them were
#mj. god I can’t even talk about her without getting angry. they’re massacring my girls yall
#even outside of their relationships with Peter they were such rich characters… Gwen a lil less but still!
#I just want a semi-faithful adaption of spider-man in his college years up until adulthood
#let him be a science teacher let mj be a model/actress/drama teacher who despite not being a superhero knows something about living two live
#let Felicia be her morally grey self without taking away her depth
#let Gwen rest. I’m
#tired of them bringing her back and holding her over peters head as if he didn’t finally get to move on. he loved her. he loved her so much
#that he respects her memory by not letting the world stop anymore. she’s dead but let her have her anger her flaws. the fact that she was
#a bit of a bully in the beginning was interesting!!! I love women <3
#anyway I’m gonna read renew ur vows and parralell lives and maydays run and pretend Peter b Parker is 616 Peter
#also also this isn’t to say the Felicia doesn’t get watered down too because she does. they treat her so bad
need to preface this by saying I looooove Felicia sm but god it’s so frustrating that when she pops up she gets to keep her personality, her depth, her everything, even in like her very few appearances but MJ has to get EVERYTHING WIPED AWAY even in the comics??? but literally the only close to faithful adaptions of her are spectacular, some of the 90s show and PART of the raimi movies and it’s only slivers!!!! And usually if mjs around Gwen doesn’t exist so we never the catalyst to her and peters bond, their shared grief that Peter can’t understand at first <\3
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