#i hate endvr so much like

[suokura]

TOUYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[todomitoukei]

Villain stan, I was already expecting an ending like Naruto's anime. Complete trash just for people that experience the story through fanon more than canon. Still, I feel robbed.

This is an anime about SUPERHEROES! What was the idea of finishing with the complete LoV dead or in jail? It would have costed nothing to put Toga, Spinner and Mr. Compress running amok, ready to avenge Twice, Magne, Shigaraki and Dabi. Marvel and DC never had a problem with having villains running free and getting ready for a next battle. An open ending that re-starts the circle as the hores need their villains.

Because Toga's death was bs, not only for being avoidable, but because the fans basically took the moment Ochake opened up about her grief towards Toga to make a DekuChako moment (Neji's death all over again >:v, the only difference is that this time it wasn't the Mangaka's intention to move a ship, but the fans decided to spit in Toga's death none the less).

And honestly, while every villain stan was "Dabi will live" I was "Gods, I hope he dies, because enything else will be a trash ending" and I WAS RIGHT! AT LEAST GIVE HIM THAT LAST SATISFACTION!

Also, Spinner just staying in jail like WHAT? Spinner was the villain who most respected and was the most loyal to Shigaraki, don't make him just write a book, MAKE HIM LEAD THE NEXT LEAGUE OF VILLAINS!

And of course, Endeavor and Hawks have no consecuences for their actions, everything just forgiven, even by the victims. Honestly, I was always in the posture of LoV as family >>>> Todofam, so I wasn't expecting Dabi's end to be more than a "We did it, we stopped Dabi. Now we are free of the past and move on, even if Dabi honestly can't" and this is one of the few times I hate to be right.

(Sorry for the venting, thank you for putting this space to talk about it.)

No need to apologize <3

You're so right about Toga's death immediately being used for different characters having a moment instead of, you know, focusing on her. I'm not sure if this manga could pass the Bechdel test.

That really is why the ending is so bad - the villains seem to not have left as much of a mark as they should've, the fact that the hero ranking system continues being in place is proof of that. You would think that society at the very least realized that treating heroes like celebrities was problematic, and yet nothing about that part of the system changed.

To be honest, I'm surprised they even let Spinner write and publish his book rather than seeing this as some kind of propaganda or safety risk. Remember how early on in the story when those Stain videos came out? It's surprising then that they let Spinner do this.

An ending that suggests the cycle starts again would've been interesting, but remember, Hori went for a "happy" ending

Hori was clearly in over his head writing a story that he ultimately was incapable of writing. The story had so much potential, yet here we are with a story that eventually decided to have nothing change.

I think the Todofam would be great, but I've always been of the opinion that it could never work with Endvr around, which is clear when you look at the Todofam finale where they are all supposedly eager to talk to Touya, only for none of them to say anything beyond that except for Endvr, who also ultimately says nothing other than how much of a victim he is. Boohoo.

Yeah, we were right. But at what cost...

[thyandrawrites]

about the "Enji's atonement isn't genuine because he only changes after he becomes number one and not at literally any other point" thing..

I've seen a similar argument were some people will blame Touya for still wanting his dad's attention after the Shouto incident and Ray's hospitalisation. And that supposedly "proves" he didn't care about them!! (though this is probably just a result of hori fucking up the timeline of which incident happened first)

I'm not good with putting my feelings into words, I just know that I get a vague feeling of "the first one is right" and "the second is wrong" but I can't explain it beyond "Touya was a child"

So I wanted to see what your opinion is..

I don't think we can compare those two situations, because the circumstances are completely different. 

Enji turns to family to soothe his wounded pride and his guilt, and thus to find a way out from the consequences of his actions. It's a selfish deflection from his responsibilities as a father and a husband, and it's ultimately catered towards making himself feel better. But the fact that he feels guilt tells he's aware that he wasn't acting in their best interest; he's aware that he made his family suffer for his egotistical ambitions. Yet, he, an adult man fully in control of his actions, abused them with intent and purpose for years, knowing it was wrong and doing it anyway, because their well-being came second to fulfilling his ambitions. Separating Shouto from his siblings wasn't an oopsie, it was a deliberate decision to isolate him from the jealousy of his siblings (mainly Touya's). Locking Rei away in a mental hospital wasn't an involuntary action; he signed papers, so it was a choice, and he even tells us on screen that he did it because his wife "damaged" his masterpiece. Heck, Enji even knew that having more children after Fuyumi would crush Touya (and Rei reminded him of it too) but he went with it anyway. No one made Endvr abuse his family for years—it was always Enji choosing to put his ambitions over anything else, even when he knew he should've stopped a long time ago. 

How is that different from Touya? 

Well, for one Touya was born into a dysfunctional family, and had no other choice but to live with the circumstances he was saddled with. He did not choose to be the heir of Enji's ambitions, nor did he choose to be brainwashed from birth into having no sense of self outside of the "worthiness" he could glean from having a strong and "suitable" quirk. 

So, for one, saying that he didn't care about his family because he shows signs of dysfunctional relationships with them is an empty statement at best and a malicious misreading at worst. The entire Todoroki family is dysfunctional. Touya is not more responsible than anyone else simply because he abides by the broken dynamics and established patterns of behavior he sees in the house. It doesn't make sense to single him out like that unless someone is trying to attribute more faults on him alone and thus paint him as more callous than the others, which imho is just plain character bashing. The fact that Touya cares about family (and I'm saying family, not just Enji) is proven by chapter 350. When he wakes up from a three year long coma, his first thought is to go back home and apologize to everyone for the way they separated on bad terms. If he didn't care about them, he wouldn't be thinking of straightening things out. He wouldn't care about how much they must've been worrying for him in his absence. He would simply move forward and leave them behind. But he doesn't. 

Secondly, the argument that Shouto's accident should've changed Touya's opinion of Enji imho is rooted in a misunderstanding of Touya's character. A lot of people seem to forget that Touya always had a love/hate relationship with his dad, and that the feelings he had towards the man were often contradictory, layered and complex. He was aware that Enji considered him a failure and avoided him, and he still made excuses ("he must've been busy") for him whenever Enji didn't show up. He lamented to Natsuo that Enji selfishly made "all these children he doesn't need" while also spending countless days training alone and collecting scars to earn the man's love. He blamed Enji and Rei for staging his birth to have a perfect chimera child to beat All Might, and still wanted to be that child who would crown his father's ambitions. 

So. Considering how Touya knows his family is messed up, and how pain became such an everyday aspect of that fucked up reality for him that he's carefree in inflicting pain on himself to earn love… all in all, I don't see why anyone expects Touya to be the pinnacle of healthy and conflict-free relationships. It's almost like the fact that he was a traumatized teenager dealing with strong emotions he never learned to properly regulate goes completely over people's heads. 

[lemongogo]

b/nha leaks

[logicalbookthief]

Kindness seems to be a recurring theme in the Todoroki family narrative. I find it fascinating that despite a decade of estrangement, both Touya and Natsuo similarly think of themselves as being unkind, even when their actions display the opposite. 

However, they both consider Shouto to be kind, a belief that is consistently reinforced.

Natsuo overhears this conversation and references it later, framing the lack of kindness he perceives in himself as a direct opposition to Shouto. It is telling that he doesn’t mention Fuyumi here, when she’s just as -- if not more so -- willing to try to forgive and reconcile with their father.

During the war, Touya takes note of this, too. Even though he doesn’t specifically declare that he is not kind like Shouto, the context speaks for itself -- he is, at this moment, trying to burn the both of them alive.

The translation for what Dabi says after Shouto expresses concern that Dabi is willing to destory himself to hurt Endeavor, provided by the wonderful @todomitoukei​ in this post, reads as follows:  I am glad because you grew up kindly.

The “you” implies that Touya believes this to be specific to Shouto, despite the fact that they -- along with Natsuo -- grew up in the same household. 

And yes, Shouto is kind! But that kindness isn’t a virtue he was born with, like a quirk. It was something Shouto strived to be after deciding he wanted to change.

Remember early manga Shouto? Pre-Sports Festival arc? He would be difficult to classify as kind, based on his behavior. Because kindness isn’t an inherent attribute of a person, but a culmination of your actions towards yourself and others.

I think the “yourself” part is especially important for the Todoroki brothers. When Shouto decides to reach out to his mother for the first time in ten years, it isn’t just a kindness he extends to her, but a kindness he extends to himself. He doesn’t want to isolate anymore, starts to connect to his peers and reconnect with his family. Because he was finally able to embrace the parts of himself that he hated and denied, due to the association with his father.

But I think Natsuo and Touya do believe that his kindness is inherent, rather than a genuine effort on Shouto’s part. It is something they cannot be for the same reason they were not worthy of their father’s care as children -- they were not born with that capacity.

After all, Shouto was the perfect child their father desired; they were the rejects. Shouto was born to be a hero, a savior of others; they were failures, either unable to do anything to help the family or only able to do more harm with their actions. 

Years after this rejection, the idea that they’re intrinsically not good enough feels so deeply engrained in how they see themselves. To the point that even when they’re caught in acts of kindness, they can’t accept it for what it is.

Realistically, an abandoned house on fire won’t demand much of Endvr’s attention with everything else going on. Touya burns down her old house because he understands Toga’s suffering. He gives her something that is not self-serving in the slightest, but to admit so would challenge his view of himself as a villain.

Even more boggling is Natsuo disparaging himself as unkind at a family dinner with his father -- that he knows will cause him immense turmoil and distress -- he only attended because he loves Fuyumi and wants to make her happy. 

I love how this scene with Toga shows that Touya, like Natsuo, exhibits kindness through his actions, even if it conflicts with what he says. There is a disconnect there that has nothing to do with being unkind and everything to do with their upbringing.

[dabistits]

Why do you think Hori keeps going out of his way to shift the blame off of Endv? I cannot understand why he is so invested in having the readers sympathize with Endv as much as possible. If Hori is indeed writing this particular storyline due to personal reasons, it seems so counterintuitive for him to want the readers to sympathize with the abuser over their victims.

some survivors may find it cathartic (and i’m saying ‘survivors’ in general, since whether or not hrksh himself is one, readers who have experienced abuse have said this before about endv) to read about abusers who change and who “genuinely care” about them. one of the many challenges of leaving an abusive relationship and staying away is the hope that some abuse victims have, that an abuser will realize what they were doing and change, because deep down they genuinely care for and love you.

the todoroki storyline reads like this kind of wish fulfillment. because endv truly cares about his family and is, deep down, a caring guy, he can stop his abuse and change. he can be the father that many abuse survivors have always wanted.

IMO, this fails because, well, it’s wish fulfillment. it skips over the big picture of abuse that i discussed in favor of a feel-good story about making mistakes and improving, and i think that’s a huge misstep. even leaving aside the fact that all the todorokis’ characters wound up revolving around endv’s redemption, it also perpetuates some insidious ideas about abuse through the constant focus endvr’s thoughts and feelings receive. while yes—stress, anger, etc. can incentivize abuse, and care, guilt, etc. can incentivize change, feelings should absolutely should not be treated as central to abuse, because:

some abusers will say they feel bad or that they care while continuing to abuse, and this can apply whether they are lying about the presence of those feelings or telling the truth. the abuser’s feelings (which they actually have or claim to have) do not match with the actions they are taking.

creating this linkage between an abuser’s feelings and capacity for change can encourage an abuse victim to stay (or go back) to an abusive relationship, either to be the incentive for the abuser’s change or because they feel that making the abuser care about them will stop the abuse.

it ultimately concludes that feelings are what matter, not actions. it encourages people to integrate the feelings of the abuser into their assessment of the abuse, as though they can weigh the specific dimension and severity of the abuse by factoring in whether or not the abuser “really cares” or “feels guilty” afterwards.

in other cases, abusers and apologists will use feelings to dismiss the possibility or severity of abuse altogether, i.e. “they do it because they love you” (and you can see this coming through in bnha: edvr isolated shouto because he loves him?)

“making readers sympathize with an abuser” aside, this is why i hate the way the todoroki storyline is written. the over-investment the narrative has in endv’s feelings and motivations leads them to be prioritized over his actions, when neither feelings nor motivations create abuse. abusive actions create abuse.

tl;dr—i understand that endvr’s “i was wrong, i have to change, i care for you” is THE message that a lot of survivors want to hear from their abusers. i recognize and sympathize with why this storyline is particularly poignant to some, but ultimately i think it does a huge disservice to fictional portrayals of abuse.

[unfortunatelyilikebnha]

✨🎥🏳‍🌈

Thank you for sending an ask, I almost never get them so this was a fun surprise!!

✨ what draws you towards your hyperfixation? What is interesting about it?

Ok so like there are many things I could say about this & yet I still don’t entirely know??? I think a lot of it is the characters, like no matter how lacking in depth/development some of them are I think they have so much potential????? I like to grab onto these characters and be like “mine now” & develop them in my head lmao (when people give especially the girls depth and backstories and dive into their feelings and motivations, that is SO SATISFYING, yk?)

🎥 do you have any favorite scenes from your hyperfixation?

I have SO MANY.

The scene in the first round of the sports festival where Midoriya digs up all those mines, goes flying, swings that piece of metal down at Todoroki & bkg, sticks the landing (sort of lol) & then goes on to win the first round of the sports festival??? Completely without a quirk??? I love that scene bc it shows how smart he is,,,, that when he knows he can’t rely on his quirk, he can figure out another way (I think part of why he did so badly in the entrance exam was that he assumed he was gonna have OFA to back him up & so decided to rely on that, so when AM was like “btw it’ll be a little bit before you can use it + it might hurt you when you do, ok gl!” it threw him off & he temporarily forgot he had skills that weren’t OFA, but that’s off topic), I wish he realized that his head is a better asset than his quirk and relied on it more often…

The scene where Todoroki melts Sero from the ice and it cuts to Midoriya’s narration and he says something like “as Todoroki took a moment to melt his opponent from the eyes, I couldn’t help but think that he looked very sad” it just hits so hard! Like they’ve barely talked but like he SEES him ugh.

Of course, “It’s your power, Todoroki!!!/Its yours! Your quirk not his!” Up to the part when Todoroki’s declared the winner & he’s just standing there completely shocked. (Oh and afterwards when endvrs being annoying and Todoroki shuts that shit down & is like “for that one moment, for better or for worse, I forgot all about you” & then just walks away that’s so good)

Pretty much the whole stain fight?? Like,,, Todoroki getting a text from his friend and though they’ve only been friends for like a couple weeks at this point he already knows him well enough to immediately realize that it meant that he was in trouble and immediately changing direction to provide backup (AND EVEN TELLING ENDVR WHERE HE WENT CAUSE HOWEVER MUCH HE HATES HIM HE RECOGNIZES THAT HES A STRONG HERO & MIDOROYA ASKED FOR BACKUP & THATS MORE IMPORTANT)!!!! Midoriya putting the dots together that Iida was hurting and in trouble and immediately going to find him cause he wants to save his friend!!The whole scene where Midoriya comes up with a plan to fight stain & Todoroki’s like “that’s a pretty big risk but ok. Let’s protect them together” THE TRUST!!!!!! Todoroki getting through to Iida, telling him that he was worried about him but also to “stand up and become the hero you want to be!” The handcrusher scene (I think that’s the first time we really heard Midoriya laugh and I 🥺🥺🥺)!!!

This ones more mundane but “yeah! Stealth mode *whoosh*!!!” “You’re standing out even more, Midoriya :|” ATSUCJFIGUFIG ITS SO FUNNY

OH OH WHEN MIDORIYA DESTROYS OVRHL!!!!! That scene is sick af Midoriya looks so cool and overhaul gets Fucking Destroyed (as he should 💅🏻) AND THEN Eri can’t stop her quirk but Midoriya still tries to calm her down & keep her safe & when aizawa erases her quirk, the way he cradled her head so it doesn’t hit the floor as they both collapse 🥺

Also when the lov breaks into the vehicle where ovrhl was being transported just to take his arms they were so sexy for that. Thank you shigaraki <3

The .3 seconds in heroes rising where Todoroki & Uraraka interact live in my head as proof of their best friendship (horikoshi may not know they’re best friends but I do <3 and that’s what matters <3)

OH!!! And I know I said a lot already but the cultural festival scene where mido & jirou bond over sharing notes 🥺🥺🥺

Sticking to anime only scenes so this doesn’t drag on forever (& so I don’t have to tag spoilers…I’m lazy) so I’ll stop now <3

🏳️‍🌈 do you have any headcanons (lgbt, race, neuro, etc) that are important to you?

Pretty much all of class 1a is neurodivergent in some way…also not cishet

TODOROKI & URARAKA R BEST FRIENDS. I KNOW THIS IN MY HEART!!!!

I probably have more but this post is already rlly long & my brain has shut down so I’m stopping now ok bye <3 ty for sending this ask!!

[punkpresentmic]

there isn’t much in your about in regard to this so idk where you stand on this, so.. hoping for the best? but the recent h@wks and endvr fanart you reblogged is romantic/shippy if you look at the tags and the person you reblogged from likes the pairing

nah i fuckin hate endeavor, fam. only thing I ship him w is Consequences & also Death lmao

but I’m a sucker for a good pun so he can make a brief appearance on my blog

[reihimura]

re: that rei post. is that really a sentiment that's going around??? i mean i shouldn't be surprised but still i am disappointed bc i would think that the fans who talk so much about how this fandom treats abuse victims horribly wouldn't do that. but yet they seem to do it casually themselves. especially now that rei is not a "good" victim bc of how hori wrote her in those hospital chapters.

sad how this ask was sent over a month ago and the sentiment i discussed is still spreading around

BUT YEAH uhmmmm. the amount of popular ‘meta’ bnha bloggers that hate endvr but then turn around and act like rei and fuyumi are pure evil because they don’t act like touya or natsuo or shouto............... like you are not immune to misogyny honey

[wetdabi]

LMAOO I literally came to ur blog for ur opinion on the newest chapter cuz I was like I cannot be the only person who feels like I ordered orange juice and got milk instead... in your professional opinion is there any way we can recover from this hot mess

ORANGE JUICE AND MILK YES

to answer your question, no❤️

i don’t hate baku’s hero name i just don’t care about it? im annoyed bc theres too much other shit going on hes supposed to be dead asf rn so we can focus on dabi etc but no here he comes acting like his long ass ugly ass name is the most important thing.... like katsuki theres people that are dying. we only have best jeanist to blame tho🙄 as usual

currently all i care about is dabi vs shouto because i waited so long for it. im happy that deranged dabi stans are starting to understand that while we can enjoy fanon dabi who’s a family man, we’re never getting that for real. even if dabi does care about natsuo etc he’s obviously not gonna show it like?? he wants to d word and take endvr with him and thats it

im very happy that machia went to sleep let him rest <3 and proud of the kids especially momo and kiri for knocking him out

[todomitoukei]

I don't mind if you don't answer this, but I'm curious about what's your take...

If you have the chance to write a fix-it, how will you explore the Himura family, especially Dabi's ice quirk? When I think about it, Touya is really a prodigy from how strong his fire quirk to easily copying his father and brother's move to a child who has an ice quirk all along. Sadly, we didn't get enough lore about the Himura family and how Touya's quirk works.

Interesting question!

I think it would depend on the situation. Would he still need to use his quirk? Would he even be interested in exploring his ice quirk? Realistically, he wouldn't have much chance to use his quirk anymore at all since public usage is against the law.

I'm sure if he ever needs ice for whatever reason, he would ask his siblings (to make them feel included!).

The main way I could see him continue to use his quirk is if he were to train with Shouto. Considering that Touya is an incredibly fast learner who can pick up techniques instantly after years of training by just watching his father, they could help each other a lot and Touya would almost subconsciously train his ice quirk by simply watching Shouto use his. Touya could be a really good mentor for Shouto, certainly better than Endvr ever was, and Shouto could also give him advice on training/using an ice quirk.

I'd be really curious about Touya seeing his grandparents. I could imagine them thanking him for not exposing them publicly for having sold their daughter. I imagine that, aside from him only wanting to focus on his father, he also didn't exactly want to be known for being part of the incest family (btw, does Shouto know about this? I don't think he does).

I guess there would also be the possibility of Geten being involved, if he gets released from prison, too. Obviously, Touya would hate this, but if Geten stopped acting like Endvr, I think the two of them could potentially develop some kind of sibling-rivalry-type relationship and also fight train together.

Anyway, Geten seems to know quite a lot about the Himura family, so he could give even more lore than what he already gave Compress. I'm sure that aside from him, Rei would also have a lot of info that she could give, which is all stuff that could be discussed in a conversation between them and someone from the lov (just like the Geten Compress talk scene).

[thyandrawrites]

https://screenrant.com/jujutsu-kaisen-maki-my-hero-academia-dabi-manga/

Stumbled upon this. As much as I adore when people draw parallels between Dabi and Maki (because they're two of my faves and I wish somebody would write about their interactions in a crossover fic), I hate how one is deemed evil for choosing the "another" path and seeking vengeance. Like no??? Dabi wanting to take down Endeavor is the same as Maki slaughtering the entire clan (the Zenins had it coming) but why is Touya put down whereas Maki gets a free pass? They're both justified in their hurt and anger yet why is one a villain and the other a hero? And also wtf is this person talking about? Endeavor fell into depression after Touya's death?!

It's because the article sympathizes with Endvr, anon. The author seems to think Enji was a misguided but loving father who got torn up by grief. But aside from that, I can't take seriously the arguments of someone who can't even get their facts right:

He did not hope to coax ice out of Touya. He trained him because Touya's fire was stronger than his. He knew from the start that Touya had no ice powers.

It's implied he thought Touya could reach the goal of beating All Might by bulldozing past him in the ranks thanks to sheer power alone. That's what the bridge metaphor he always brings up was about. Touya had a bigger "plus ultra" factor than Enji, because Touya's fire power was simply higher, and thus could more easily breach the gap between number 1 and 2.

Also, framing it like Touya was only casted aside "upon the birth of Shouto" completely brushes off that Shouto was conceived with the express intention of punishing Touya:

And that Enji had already been neglecting him for years by that point. And Touya wasn't "essentially" tossed aside. He was deliberately replaced. With malice. Enji knew that Touya wouldn't give up and used the birth of two more kids to drill in that concept. It wasn't an oopsie. It was cruel on purpose. Meant to crush any remaining hopes out of his son.

But anyway.

This article really doesn't read like whoever wrote it was thinking about either series with much eye for nuance.

I'm not caught up with jjk (and I have no intention of catching up at the moment) so I can't comment on the maki part of this...

But tbh it seems to me like the author wanted to compare and contrast them on the basis of love/absence of love and how that made one of them a villain but not the other. But it doesn't seem to think through its own arguments. It's basically saying Dabi, and I quote, "stoops so low" to become a villain because he was loved and lost that affection, and his mind in the process. How tragic! If only he knew Endvr never gave a shit about him! That might've saved him! While Maki was never raised with love so she never ran the risk of soiling her hands for a sympathetic reason. But that makes her a good person somehow. A better one than Dabi, anyway, who is motivated by love.

Uhm.

Ghsjsjdk

... Okay?

[thyandrawrites]

I hated this chapter but one thing I have to appreciate is how clearly we've been shown that Dabi has never taken any of his previous fights seriously. Like. Not even marginally. Even when he was up against people he despised and fully intented to kill (Geten, Hawks), he put in a fraction of the effort he's showcasing now.

We all had just assumed that he skipped out on fights and put the bare minimum effort into his kills because he was watching his limits... But he said himself that his numbness to pain removed the obstacle of caution early on.

Of course, his... low effort makes sense when you consider that he was saving up all the aces up his sleeve (his dad's moves times 20, his surprising speed) for Endvr, to finally beat him at his own game.

He's been training for this for years. Over a decade, in fact, of we count from the time he was discarded. And it shows. He mastered techniques that Endvr honed at the peak of his career. Which means. You know what that means. Dabi's physical prowess and quirk control are on par with a top ranked hero's.

So...

1. Even when he regaled Shouto with that cremation-hug, that was barely an attempt on the kid's life at all. The fact that he stopped the second Enji passed out already made it clear his real intent there was to have Enji's undivided attention. But in hindsight, it's an even more obvious tell. He could've suplexed his brother into the center of the Earth but he... Didn't

2. Even when Dabi harbored animosity towards an opponent that looked down on him or overlooked him (Dabi's major Achilles heels), the killing intent he reacts with never came close to the overwhelming, all-consuming rage he feels for what his father has done to him.

In other words... As it turns out, Dabi's an incredibly skilled fighter (perhaps the most versatile in the League), but the only person he actually cares to fight seriously is his dad. No one else is on his radar on quite the same level. Not even Shouto.

Another thing that came from this chapter is that Dabi doesn't really project his daddy issues onto everyone he dislikes the way, say, Tomura does; he doesn't kill because he gets so emotional that his feelings get the best of him. No. Dabi's much more detatched and calculating. When he wants to kill, it's always a deliberate choice. When he attacks, he's not in a murderous frenzy, but he always carefully plans out how much force he needs to use, how best to overwhelm his opponent.

Sometimes it's still a reaction to stress, don't get me wrong. Dabi's just as emotional as Shigaraki, though he does keep his feelings under a dozen of locks. For example, when Twice gets killed, Dabi strikes with fury because he's upset (though in denial about it). My point is that even his feelings seemigly get the best of him, Dabi's still a rational thinker. He bides his time before his first burst of flames to catch Hawks at his most unaware; he talks to distract Tokoyami from his need to cool down for a bit; he reads right through the kid's plan to flee, and saves his last strength to give chase; when Toko flies, Dabi jet packs after him, catching up.

All this time, we all thought Dabi was an emotional fighter. You pushed his buttons and he reacted. But as it turns out, that's quite a simplification. Tomura's the emotional one; Dabi's more of a planner. (which, by the way, reflects in their long term goals. Tomura's is abstract, hardly defined. He wants to destroy everything, but he doesn't bother figuring out how in advance. He tackles challenges one by one as they present themselves to him, not unlike a video game progression. Dabi's different. He's a strategist and an overthinker. He spent the better part of ten years honing the details of how he wanted to ruin Endvr).

Even now that he seems to have gone full throttle and he looks totally unhinged, striking Shouto with a fury he never before showed to the kid, he's still just as calculating as ever. He observed Shouto for years, gleaning his brother's fighting style enough for him to predict Shouto's moves now and smoothly counteract them before they can land. He's not so caught in his own head or clouded by his resentment that he cannot analyze the battle. When Shouto neutralizes the heat, Dabi's paying close attention and commenting on it.

I want to emphasize that this is the most emotional we've ever seen him, yet there's a certain cool-headedness to him. Even as a yells at the kid and tries to sautée him, Dabi's approaching this fight with some crazy fine-tuned control.

And that's what I find most interesting about 351.

Dabi doesn't just fight with the skill and the firepower of a pro. He fights with the battle sense and detached control of one, too.

And he's absolutely right. He does know his body best, and his father was a fool to cast him aside before he could get a chance to show those skills. If Dabi managed to get to this level on his own, with the then-number-two-hero's support he could've gone places.

But in a sense, I do think that's his strongest suit. At some point, perhaps, he'll realize that he doesn't need his father's stamp of approval to be this good. It was never a matter of being "worthy" of existing. It was always believing you had the right to be, and conquering, owning it even when literally everyone else gave up on you. And Dabi did it. He believed he had the skills to reach this point, and boy did he reach it

[todomitoukei]

It truly kills me when i think about how touya must have felt when after the incident nobody even tried looking for him? His mother physically unable to do so, his siblings too young, while enji said "he didn't believe he was dead that he was looking for him"???? he became even more aggressive with shouto and kept insane training with him?? almost like touyas death complicated his plans (just like when rei hurt shouto and he was more concerned about training than his son being hurt). Even if it was touyas plan to run away imagine being in constant chronic pain afterwards, seeing your abusers face everywhere like a celebrity, learning that your family is trying to reconnect and forgive each other.

I imagine touya going "so this was possible a good family could be a reality if they put effort in.. just not for him". There was probably some sende of betrayal with him seeing that nobody mourned touya, that his death was just not enough for them to hate enji and it probably made him vicious

This has been in my askbox for a while just like everything else that's still in there but it's actually good because I just came across one of my favorite scenes from The Good Place again (if you haven't watched the show: spoilers ahead!) that made me think about exactly that and can I just say that Dave looks and acts exactly like Bakugou's dad lmao.

Especially that part where Eleanor says "Because I wanted that mom! [...] Why does Patricia get that mom? If Donna Shellstrop has truly changed, then that means she was always capable of change, but I just wasn't worth changing for."

Obviously, you could argue that "why would anyone want Endvr as their dad? Why would Dabi want to switch places with Shouto? Does he not understand that Shouto was abused? That Shouto doesn't like Endvr?" - of course, the truth is that Dabi does know. So much so that he is, in fact, the first person in canon to actually openly tell the public that Shouto was abused by Endvr (considering Shouto himself doesn't even exactly admit this and instead only ever focuses on the suffering Endvr has caused Rei) during his broadcast in chapter 291:

sidenote: in Japanese he uses the word 手を上げる (te o ageru) lit. "to raise a hand" which is meant to say that someone raises their hand to commit violence, so he's explicitly saying that Shouto was hit (possibly because abuse is more of a broad term?)

So yes, Dabi knows that Shouto didn't have a loving dad. Even as a 13-year-old Touya knew that he himself had never had a loving, healthy relationship with his father and instead was tossed aside because he was a "failed creation" as seen in chapter 302 -

which then again raises the question of "why would Touya still want Endvr's attention?" and more importantly - why would it most likely upset him now to find out that Endvr has been trying to (or is attempting to try idk what to call it) change and make it up to his family?

It's a simple answer, really: because all Touya ever wanted was for his dad to look at him. To pay attention to him and acknowledge his existence, as stated multiple times, for example in these panels from chapter 301:

Endvr was never a good dad. Not to Touya and not to any of Touya's siblings. But kids still crave their parents' attention because kids are dependent on their parents and without having their existence acknowledged, they can't receive any love from them, either, so the focus has been on wanting his dad to see him because unless that happens, there is nothing else Touya can receive from his dad.

It's clearly not the same situation as The Good Place, where the formerly bad mom turns around and becomes a good mom for her new kid despite not having been able to do so for her first kid. Endvr still fails at being a dad, he still doesn't have a good relationship with his kids and it's unclear whether he will ever have a good (or even neutral) relationship with any of them in the future.

The similar part lies in something much simpler - the very foundation of someone changing and improving, which is their willingness to do so. It's the first step of many, but without it, one can't suddenly be better.

Dabi doesn't know how his family is doing now. He has no idea of any of their relationships with each other, so it's all just speculation to him based on what little information he does have, which is pretty much limited to seeing Shouto in the role that was originally planned for him. He doesn't know that Shouto doesn't get along with Endvr and that he remains unsure of whether or not he is ever going to forgive Endvr, but he sees that Shouto is fighting side by side with him and that he interned at his agency. With that, Dabi wouldn't be able to rule out the possibility of Shouto having a good relationship with Endvr now.

Either way, regardless of Dabi's theories surrounding the state of his family, the point still remains that Endvr sees Shouto, something Touya has been deprived of for most of his existence.

Even if he knew about the tension in his family, it wouldn't change the fact that Endvr had been able to look at Shouto, when he wasn't able to look at Touya. That is something Touya already knew when still living with his family and something he can still see now. More importantly, unlike with Touya, Endvr never stopped looking at Shouto.

If he found out about Endvr's attempt at redemption, it would probably hurt him more than it would help him considering Endvr's realization of the negative effects he has had on his family came a decade after Touya's death. So it's not even that Touya's death was a wake-up call. Instead, Endvr had to reach his own selfish goal of becoming the Number One first in order to begin to see clearly. And even that wasn't enough to enable him to see Touya. Instead, he pities himself in the hospital and then constantly focuses on other goals despite having promised his family to go look for his not-actually-dead-but-still-at-constant-risk-of-dying son.

The point is that Dabi is still suffering from his dad's inability to do the simplest task of seeing him, but it would probably break his heart to find out that Endvr has made even the smallest attempt at making his crimes up to his family (i.e. by buying Rei a house).

It's a matter of "if he is able to change" but the truly haunting part lies in "when he is able to change" because all Touya ever wanted was for his dad to change, yet the realization of that change finally occurring a decade after Touya was gone is painful as it could not have been meant for him.

Even if Touya's supposed death had played any part in Endvr's change of heart, it's not the dead that benefit from people changing, so how is he supposed to be happy about his dad's ability or willingness to change, when that just means that his existence wasn't enough reason?

[todomitoukei]

I hope that this doesn’t come off as me hating Rei because I don’t but I really hate how some people will empathise/sympathise with her for the abuse she suffered, and understand that her burning of Shouto was due to the abuse. However, they refuse to see the same thing with Touya and just demonise him, like “he attacked baby Shouto that was a sign he born evil”(literally big red flag that he was not ok) “he was manipulating Natsuo to hate his father” (or maybe he was trying to let his feelings be heard? To have at least someone be there for him?) hey at that point I don’t think Touya even hated his father then? He was still trying desperately to get his attention. Like why is it “the child was born evil” and not “shit woah the father made such a toxic environment that this child lashed out at his baby sibling” its ridiculous!

I don't think it comes across as hating her, especially since it's not her fault people are hating on her son.

Dabi haters have honestly mastered the art of mental gymnastics. They will throw accusations at him immediately and ignore all context as if that's how it worked. Like when they claimed he was sexist as if that conclusion made any sense.

Claiming a child is manipulative is just a big misunderstanding of how children work and ignores the fact that a child's behavior is heavily influenced by their parents. Of course Touya would get scared when Natsuo wants to sleep instead of keep talking, because his father already pushed him away so wouldn't he just naturally be worried that other people would end up doing the same?

And don't get me started on that whole "born evil" thing. Honestly, it's bad enough to claim that a person is "good" or "bad" but to say they are already born that way? There's a long list of reasons as to why viewing people as just one thing is problematic but it's especially ironic when it comes from people that will defend an abuser because "he's different now uwu" - at least be consistent about it?

They honestly act like he manipulated his father before he was even born. Maybe he should've consulted with his haters before making his broadcast so he could just use their logic (since he was trying to make himself into this big bad villain to damage Endvr as much as possible).

Why did he even say he killed people when he could've just said that he manipulated one of his brothers, tried to attack his other brother, and was sexist? Maybe with the help of his haters he could've already ended Endvr's career... maybe... the haters are trying to be supportive, actually... hmm...

[thyandrawrites]

Tomura, Izuku and...AFO for the character opinion bingo

Bringing out the real guns here uh

Alright this will be pretty unpopular but please don't come at me, I have anxiety

Tomura:

He's one of my fave characters and imho one of the (if not The) best written ones. Because of that, I dislike his fanon portrayal with a passion. It's not just that people (including supposed villain stans) remained stuck at his definition as an unstable manchild and refuse to acknowlge how biased and dehumanizing that label is, and it's not just that in doing so they deny all his growth. For me, what annoys me the most is that by portraying him as a bratty and despotic boss who forces people to do what he wants is a fundamental misunderstanding of Shigaraki's character. His entire overarching arc is that of finding freedom from the people who try to control you and suppress your free will, and yet he's constantly (mis)understood as someone who would deliberately deny his comrades' agency by demanding they help him fulfill his personal goals, and would throw a fit at anyone questioning his undisputed authority. That's.... Ew. That's AFO, not Shigaraki. Shigaraki thinks everything is meaningless and wants to destroy everything, but the second Toga showed discomfort with that, he shifted his goals to accommodate for her wishes. Despite not understanding or sharing her vision of the world, he supported her in getting the things she wanted. I don't know how people can read that as bratty selfishness tbh.

One day maybe I'll even have the guts to write a bullet point list of all the main traits of his characterization that people constantly sleep on, but today is not that day

AFO:

Not much to say here. I find him boring as hell. As a villain, he's your stereotypically morally black megalomaniac who wants to conquer the world and that just doesn't appeal to me. The fact that his obsession seems to come from reading a comic book when he was a child is also... So underwhelming it makes me laugh, lol. I hate him for what he inflicted on Tenko and I don't think the fandom realizes just how deep the damage runs. But even as a villain enjoyer, I don't find him compelling at all. There's just no... Depth or nuance to make his writing hit. Even Endvr's writing is more compelling than his imho. At least with Enji I feel like I'm talking about a fully fleshed out character. I hate his guts too, but he's a... Person. Not just a cliche, you know?

I don't really understand how he has fans tbh

Izuku:

Two of my irls have him as their fave and I'm sorry on their behalf that what could've been an amazing protagonist turned out to be so underutilized. Deku's arc is more about mastering his quirk(s) than it is about personal growth. He remains virtually unchallenged throughout the story and I genuinely find that a shame. I used to like him up until the sports festival, but after that, when the story became darker and darker and deku remained a beacon of blinding white light, I began feeling like he's the wrong sort of protagonist for the kind of story bnha built up to be in the long run tbh.

But I do understand the appeal in him, I guess. One thing I like is that Izuku is an interesting take on masculinity. He's allowed to cry a lot, to be emotional in ways that are typically relegated to women, and he's allowed to be weak and to need comrades. He's kind as opposed to your typical angry shonen protag, and he's quiet and analytical when your typical protag is rash and loud and stupid. He could've been an interesting subversion if horikoshi had bothered giving him the chance of failing and then learning from his mistakes every now and then