#bnhavent

[todomitoukei]

Honestly it’s a depressing ending for the villains. We get hardly any follow up for the remaining ones, Toga was the last one I expected to die and I was hoping it was a ruse at first. But since it’s official it’s heartbreaking. It’s lacklustre just throwing in a character to portray Tomura and what would happen if a civilian did reach a hand out, and throwing in another character for Deku to interact with. Honestly even the heroes were pointless, nothing has really changed in the system. Hawks never got a consequence for his actions, hell it could have been explored of a hero murdering a villain questioning the like of what makes a villain or hero. But he rises in ranks and has done nothing. I just feel it’s such a rushed ending, and I would have been ok with the same ending if it didn’t feel so messy and compiled together. There are so many loose ends and follow ups from characters, Shoto especially. It’s unfortunate, but honestly I’m glad it’s over. I lost passion after a while, but I appreciate the joy it’s gave me when I first started following the manga and getting into the anime, and experiencing the highs and lows of manga leaks. Dabi was my main one, and it’s one positive I gain from this ending for how open it is to his fate. It’s just sad that it ended this way.

Hori's biggest strength is for sure coming up with interesting ideas - like you said, exploring certain parts could've made for an incredibly interesting story. However, his biggest weakness is not following through with what he's starting, doing a 180 right at the end every time.

The cast has always been too big, yet he chooses to show us minor villains like Gentle and La Brava - who receive a happy ending - while the main antagonists endings aren't even being shown.

As much as the villains dying sucks (subjectively but also objectively since the story spent so much time telling us it's about reaching out and helping everyone no matter what), if they had been at least given a proper conclusion it could've been acceptable, yet after 400+ chapters, the author couldn't even bother to show all the main antagonists and their endings.

Where exactly is Spinner? We know he wrote and published a book, but is he in jail and if so, how did they allow him to publish this book?

Is Compress in jail forever? Is he still in a cell with Geten? He read Spinner's book, but how did he get hold of it? Was the prison kind enough to give him a copy?

What about Touya? Assuming he's dead, how much longer did he have? Did his family care when he died? How is the family coping? Are they getting along? Why did Horikoshi not show us Natsuo and Touya talk after spending so much time saying they used to be so close? Natsuo not saying anything and having mixed emotions after all of this was actually an interesting idea, but not when you don't do anything more with it - now people just think Natsuo is an asshole when in reality, he has every right to feel conflicted, but it sucks as a conclusion when we've all been looking forward to seeing him and Touya finally get to reunite and be happy.

What was the point of Shigaraki appearing as a ghost to Deku? Why wouldn't he at least appear in front of his friends? Why wouldn't we see him show up in front of Spinner, approving his book or something?

And yes, Shouto, too. Why is the main info we get in regards to his father? What about his hero costume, which we aren't even being shown? Did he ever change his hero name or is it going to be Shouto forever?

I wouldn't even say it's rushed as much as it's an unbalanced focus. The last few chapters could've been focusing on these subplots, but instead Hori tried to mimick the tone of the first season by showing the kids returning to school and whatnot, something that could've been shown in less time to also make space for elaborating on a bigger variety of characters and plot points.

I'm also glad it's over, I just wish these characters could've been in a better story.

[todomitoukei]

Tbh E retiring was a big blob of BS within itself 🙄 he was practically forced into it, and yeah we get him going “I was going to retire after the war blah blah blah” but this man says he’s going to do a lot of things for his family and goes back on it 🙃 like promising to look at Touya but proceeds to then not do so(until he was again forced) and I’m sure there is more!

Actually I hate the fact that he says he "chose to retire" and "was going to retire after the first war" because he shouldn't have been given a choice. He should've been fired and charged for the various laws he broke over the last 20+ years.

He sure always is all talk and nothing more, all the way to the end and I think that sort of lack of self-awareness and accountability is one of the most frustrating aspects of the story.

The way he felt entitled to being the most popular and successful pro hero, while remaining to be utterly incapable of paying attention to his children and helping them is laughable at best.

Especially promising Touya at the very end - after he was told that Touya was going to die soon - to visit and talk to him every day, is meant to convince us that he is a changed man? What? Because spending time with someone who is dying and can barely talk for 5 minutes is somehow an incredible accomplishment? If anything he is doing this for his own good so that he will feel slightly less guilty once Touya actually dies and can tell himself that he was there for him in the end. He's the whole circus!

[todomitoukei]

wait so ochako had something for counseling programs but shouto had nothing for domestic violence or anything for family issues??? Lmaooo

In the most ironic turn of events, Hori decided to have the only information we get on Shouto in the end be that less people refer to him as "Endvr's son" now. Again. 100% of what we get about Shouto. Is. About. Him. In. Relation. To. His. Father.

(technically we also find out that he is doing well in terms of ranks and could become Number One or whatever. You know. The thing he stopped caring about because he realized he wants to find out who he is outside of all that and also wants to be there for his family).

You really can't make this up. There is no way Hori didn't do this on purpose because what the actual fuck.

[todomitoukei]

Hey! Sorry to bother you! I would like to share my thoughts with someone :')

Unlike Shigaraki and Toga, Touya is the only one who revealed his story to the public but he's also the only villain who didn't have any effect on society, which is paradoxical. 8 years later, we see that Shigaraki still "haunts" Deku (even if his brief apparition meant nothing), Spinner publishes his book (even if we don't see civilians read the book and think critically), Toga inspires Uraraka's project (even if it's not a big reform)... but we don't even know what influence Touya's story had over people and/or over Shouto as a hero (and if he didn't have any, it would have been interesting to mention this lack).

Touya's greatest desire was to be recognized and to prove that he existed ; after his death (?), did he succeed in leaving his mark ? After being approved by his dad, did everyone else forget him ? Is it a punishment for denouncing his father who is still admired by his peers ? Did he become a taboo subject ?

Some people will say that he had what he wanted the most - his father's attention - but I'm not satisfied. There was something more. Touya wanted to exist and find his place. Him becoming a figure after his death (?) and inspiring people who remember him and his story would have been an interesting idea... but I think he has fallen into oblivion

Don't worry, you're not bothering me!

That's a good point. I think originally, after the first war, his reveal was at least partially responsible for the chaos, the distrust society got in heroes and the high number of heroes straight up quitting.

Other than that you're right. When it comes to his family it feels more like his actions "freed" his father, at least that's how Endvr's character ends up coming across. While he pities himself, he makes it sound like Touya did him a favor by forcing the truth to come out. The fact that Endvr says he CHOSE to retire is proof that society did not care about the lov being victims, or any abuse victims for that matter.

Despite his retirement, he is seen in the final chapter being surrounded by his former sidekicks as well as his biggest fan (Hawks). So in a way Touya's reveal, which was supposed to ruin his father's life, only gifted him with an early retirement and a chance to play victim.

Touya left his mark on society, but it's unclear whether the lov members will be remembered individually or just as a collective.

It is cruel though that none of the lov members were saved and given a second chance. They might have reached their goals to a certain extent but aside from wanting his father's attention, Touya also wanted the rest of his family. And with Horikoshi not being explicit about his ending, there is no way to say whether he ever got that.

If we assumed that he died, he certainly didn't ever get to find out who he is, and never got to truly live and that is the worst part because it's simply not fair.

Some people find the ending hopeful because the lov's suffering inspired the kids to go on to make things better, but this is a fictional story. I don't care about the fictional future victims I will never meet, I care about the fictional victims that I did meet and root for, but Horikoshi decided preventing crime before it happens is the only option and that people can't actually be saved after a certain point. A wonderful message, truly.<3

[todomitoukei]

If a genie asks me to make a wish, I want Touya's POV (and only him) about his backstory. I will also wish for Touya's POV about the League of Villains.

it frustrates me to see people mischaracterise him as if he was born evil because it was on Endeavour's POV when Touya tried to attack Shoto or Ujiko's POV about Touya beng evil.

To the people who says the Todoroki family has a satisfying conclusion, thinking its a good ending for Touya..... you know what nevermind.

I'm very sorry for ranting in this ask...

No need to apologize, rant away!

Getting Touya's pov would be great! One thing I've always found frustrating is how despite the league's importance, they barely even appear in any of the movies and there are no filler episodes about them. What's worse, the mla arc was shortened to make space for unnecessary hero filler episodes and dragging out an arc that could've taken up far less episodes.

Not only did we never get any answers regarding what Touya was up to for the 6ish years between waking up from his coma to joining the lov (it's not like he spent 24/7 training), we deserved to get more lov just hanging out scenes. People act like they never spend any time around each other outside of committing crimes, which is simply not true based on the few shots we did get of them just hanging out.

Like that small scene where they discuss Toga not having a villain name? Touya is in the background and on his phone. What's he doing? Is he watching dance videos? Going through pinterest looking for outfit inspo? Fighting Hawks in an online forum about Endvr? Looking up 'more unique ways to annoy my boss'?

I just wanna know what they did together on the boring days...

[todomitoukei]

I didn't even realize Kurogiri died and it makes me so mad because did seriously none of the characters talk about it??? Do you happen to have a screenshot of that panel?

While I originally assumed Aizawa and Present Mic were at an altar for Kurogiri in the final chapter, other people have pointed out they might have been at Midnight's or someone else's instead. Since Hori decided to give us nothing, we just don't know :)

Either way, in chapter 423, King Explosion Murder turns into an actual murderer by making the warp gate explode -

a little after that Shigaraki addresses Kurogiri while the warp mist slowly disappears, suggesting that he died.

But remember: Murder is okay when it's done by someone with a hero license<3

[todomitoukei]

I felt that the ending was unsatisfying. The heros were suppose to make the impossible possible. And I still can't believe Kurogiri was basicly Fridged.

In the end, the story itself made the impossible possible by uniting both villain and hero stand through a shared hatred for the ending

[todomitoukei]

how much do you think japanese society and expectations have influenced bnha and how did play a role in making the story go from decent to pretty bad?

Hi there!

Considering that the story is written by a Japanese man born and raised and still living in Japan, it is certainly a product of Japanese culture. More importantly, the story itself is about Japanese people who live in Japan.

That being said, we don't live in a vacuum. Through technology especially, access to other cultures is much easier and influence more accurate than it was before.

We know that Star Wars is a huge influence, both because Hori himself said so and also through the numerous references to the franchise in bnha.

Aside from that, we get characters like All Might, Native, or Nagant, which are referencing the US, and other references to non-Japanese culture such as Frankenstein or Carmilla, Christian influences such as the constant mention of 'hell' in regards to the Todoroki family, etc., which shows that Hori is also consciously aware of other cultures and chooses to reference those in his story.

In short, yes, the story in itself is Japanese, but it also has various influences from other cultures.

The thing to keep in mind here, however, is that people for some reason tend to use the "it's a Japanese story! They have a different culture!" often gets thrown around as a last resort argument whenever anyone dares to rightfully criticize the story and writing.

If we look at other stories that have been produced in Japan - by Japanese people for a Japanese audience - it is obvious that most of those stories are well-written.

If you look at stories like Attack on Titan, Angels of Death, No. 6, Death Note, SpyxFamily, and many more, it's obvious that stories can be dark, can have political themes, can focus on injustice, moral questions, mental health, etc. and be well-written.

They can even include characters committing crimes and yet be well-rounded characters that are being given a second chance because guess what - life isn't black and white!

These stories are filled with consistency. They send messages they want to send and treat their characters with respect. Even characters that die are at the very least being given a decent conclusion.

Bnha problem has never been that it's a Japanese story. This is a problematic conclusion and anyone suggesting that the only reason one might dislike certain aspects of it is due to a lack of understanding Japanese culture is just out of arguments.

Yes, we have to be aware that this is a Japanese story so there will be differences in how this story is told by a Japanese person as opposed to if a non-Japanese person were to write it.

But if the reason it was poorly-written was due to the culture it was created in, then Japanese people would all love this ending.

At the end of the day, we can't look inside Hori's head. We can't say whether he wanted to tell the story in a different way, yet felt like he couldn't. People have suggested that his editors or publishers have influenced the development of the story and that is all very possible. However, as mentioned above, Japanese stories that have done what Hori failed to do exist.

My criticism, and most peoples' criticism isn't in regards to the ending not being a happy one for the villains, it's the way the story is contradicting itself, is being inconsistent, retcons several aspects and undoes certain character's development for the sake of other characters.

Japanese or not, the story is simply not a well-written one and in a sea of incredibly well-written, meaningful stories that have been created in that same culture, that aspect is important, but not the reason it failed.

[todomitoukei]

Hey! I’d like to share my thoughts with you if you don’t mind! I don't know if what I say is relevant or not, so you don't have to answer if you don't want to :)

(Sorry if I make some mistakes, English is not my native language)

I don’t take Endeavour’s redemption seriously because of three incoherences :

1.One of the reasons why Horikoshi’s attempt to redeem Endeavour doesn’t convince me is because he never stops praising the qualities that made Endeavour abuse Touya and his entire family : his hard work ; his professionalism ; his obsession with his job… Horikoshi keeps repeating the same thing over and over : look at how he’s a hard worker ; look at how he works with devotion ; look at how he's a good superhero who trains the elite soldiers… Deku defends Endeavour because he’s a good mentor and Burnin’ doesn’t give a fuck about Touya because she respects her boss… I don’t see what that has to do with the question! Being good at your job isn't an excuse, let alone when you hurt your family because of this job : what “justified” the psychological and physical violence towards Rei, Touya, Fuyumi, Natsuo and Shouto (Endeavour's devotion to his job) is exactly what Horikoshi uses to make his character look good.

2. Endeavour keeps in touch with his coworkers who said they don’t care at all about Touya’s story (Burnin’, Kido, Onima and Deku to some extent). In other words, Endeavour says he regrets what he did to Touya but he spends time with people who don’t give a fuck about what happened to his son just because he’s a good boss. It's pure hypocrisy. The last time we see Endeavour is him spending time with people who say “the job/system that made you abuse your family is more important than the abuse itself”.

3. Endeavour makes the same mistake again by refusing to talk to his son before the tragedy (and Horikoshi wants me to think he changed for the better). He’s completely responsible for Touya’s real death just like he was responsible for Touya's first “death”. There were so many ways to stop Touya from burning himself. Endeavour could have retreated after Touya’s reveal to look for his son (didn’t he say he was desperately looking for his son when he “died” at the age of 13 ? Why didn’t he make the effort to reach him after the reveal ?) ; during the war, he could have met his son instead of waiting for Touya to face him (that would have been an interesting echo to the Sekoto Peak scene where Touya “died” because his father didn’t come to see him)… but Endeavour didn’t do anything at all because Horikoshi loves body horror and bad tragedy (I love horrific and tragic stories ; it just doesn’t fit MHA). Endeavour fails at saving his own son twice because he’s a coward and Horikoshi wants me to think he’s cool.

And it’s Natsuo, who held his father responsible for Touya’s first “death”, who tells him he’s badass when he sees his brother dying because Endeavour made the same mistake that killed Touya the first time… what ?  

It's as if Horikoshi already "redeemed" Endeavour by making him change his behaviour with other people, which exempts his character from acting differently with Touya. He trained Deku who shared some similarities with Touya, his firstborn he didn't want to train because of his quirk, and he accepted teamwork instead of being self-centred. Touya embodies Endeavour's self past, and this self past had to die because Endeavour already changed with other people : it's not Endeavour who came too late to help his son, it was Touya who came too late to be helped. Thank you Horikoshi for this beautiful manga.

Sweet anon no need to apologize, your English is great!! (and let's be real most native English speakers couldn't form a single coherent sentence in a foreign language if their life depended on it)

You're absolutely right - I will be forever mad about that "I think your abuser is better than you because he's my mentor" like... ummm... huh??? No words, honestly. I could kind of get behind the idea of Endvr not immediately quitting his job as he saw stopping Touya as his responsibility. However, the sheer fact that he had a choice in the end to retire rather than, you know, being rightfully labeled as a villain himself for the crimes he has committed, stripped of his title as hero, thrown in jail or whatever etc. is forever going to be one of the dumbest aspects of this story. Even in the end, Endvr was never punished, really punished, for the things he's done.

This ties in with the second point you raise - he still has people by his side supporting him. At this point, the only thing that has changed for him is the fact he doesn't have to work anymore. Retirement, oh noooo :((( His sidekicks are essentially still his sidekicks, his number one fan Hwks is still by his side, acting like the child he never had and oh what's that? His wifey he abused pushes his wheelchair that he is more than capable of moving on his own? Wonderful!

Not only is Natsuo suddenly calling him badass the weirdest, most out-of-character line possible, I also felt that Natsuo deciding to cut him off wasn't even punishment considering Endvr never bothered to hang out or speak with him in the first place so it's not really different from before?

It's especially weird then how the members of the lov - all of whom are younger than Endvr - are considered "too far gone" and have to be thrown in jail or killed, yet Endvr gets infinite chances because he was smart enough to cover up his crimes for long enough? Because he established himself as hero so he gets unlimited get-out-of-jail cards?

It doesn't make sense to consider a 24 year old (crying because there was a time I was younger than him rip) who has suffered from all sorts of abuse his entire life can't be given a second chance because he reacted to that abuse instead of just dying as a kid, yet a grown ass man who made very conscious decisions he planned out carefully and kept hidden from the public for over two decades gets to go on just because the public isn't bringing out the guillotine?

Anyway... rip lov, you have always deserved to be in a better story than this.

[todomitoukei]

About the bnhavent stuff:

Ngl, the ending really pissed me off. Shouto & Touya are my 2 favorites in the series, and they both got shafted. And the audacity to show Endeav0r still hanging out with his side kicks after everything that happened?? He was outed as an abuser on national television, yet there were literally NO consequences for this. And I'm tired of people saying that's realistic cuz this is a series where people have superpowers; if Hori wanted to, he could.

Shouto & Izuku not talking after graduation, the fact that Rei is presumably back with Enji, no one checking on Shouto after the war, not getting any info on how Shouto feels about his family now, Touya's fate being up in the air, and the fact that we didn't even get to fully see Shouto's adult suit design?? Oh this final chapter pisses me off *bad*. Like delete it and start over cuz this fucking *sucked*.

Exactly my thoughts! And one of the "facts" we learn about Shouto is that less people are calling him "Endvr's son" now, which indirectly still reduces him to that since that's almost the only information we get on him.

All his whining about how miserable and awful he feels and that he "decided" to retire only for him to still be surrounded by people supporting him and that he used to work with... makes you wonder if he still is doing some kind of hero related work. Perhaps he retired from being a pro hero, but he could still be at his hero agency doing paperwork or whatever. Either way, it's ridiculous.

At the end, it really felt like the family were all just plot tools for Endvr's character.

[todomitoukei]

I already made plans to donate my manga volumes after this ending lmao. <3

You should donate it to someone you don't like.

I definitely want to sell or donate my volumes too, though at the same time I would almost feel bad giving this to another person. It's almost like handing a cursed object to someone else without telling them lol

[todomitoukei]

Adding to the people who don't like the endeavour redemption asks, it's worth noting the fact that all the characters around Endeavour are reduced to be Enji's dick rider because Horikoshi is trying so hard for the readers to like Endeavour. Number 1; Hawks. I'm so, so, so, so pissed this happened to Hawks' character. He got the best buildup where the character should be (either become the leagues new ally or change after Twice's death), but he became Endeavour's supporter because he apparently is optimistic. Ironically, no one called him Keigo and stayed just Hawks, HPSC really brainwashed him, huh? (my boy, Hawks, let's go to Ao3). Endeavour sidekicks ironically became the sidekicks because that's their entire personality. One of them should've died by Touya's fire. Then there's Inasa. I love you, Inasa, but you finally found out the reason why Shoto's behaviour like that during the recommendation exam and yet you praised his abuser??? Horikoshi, what the hell are you doing??? There's also Izuku and Katsuki. These two were horrified to learn what happened to Shoto during sports festival, but suddenly, when they became Enji's interns, everything is fine and dandy? (When Izuku told Shoto that Shoto is apparently ready to forgive Endeavour, I physically recoil. The obvious parallel between Shoto/Izuku and Endeavour/Katsuki pissed me off. One person is a grown man, and the other is a teenager. This writing should not be parallel, but that's another essay, so I'll leave it to just that). And Natsuo... sigh. Anyway, Horikoshi is really trying to make us like Endeavour because when Rei is helping Endeavour in that timeskip or children holds Endeavour doll, or when the hero ranking is still there because Hawks is apparently inspired by Endeavour, it feels like Horikoshi is trying to tell us "Everyone loves Endeavour so you can also love his character" iaskkxaaxh,axh,bxakbshdqqnoqdh,nlaknzalns

Also, did someone ask Shoto if he's doing OK after the war arc? (except when he's in the hospital). If I were his teacher, I would've been wary with Endeavour. Horikoshi is so focused on Endeavour that he completely forgot who's the real main character of the Todofam plot.

End of the rant. Thank you for reading this until the end.

^Hwks got to be up close to this man and still chose to go with Endvr??? People asked him if that was his girlfriend and that didn't even make him think??? Like what if he was my girlfriend? Not even once? Boo.

And now he was promoted?? In charge of the hero commission??? when he can't even prioritize the PRETTIEST man ever?? Not to mention the fact he got the chance to be friends with best blond boy twice and instead decided to become besties with worst blond boy and proud denim wearer instead??

It's seriously so unrealistic. The fact people call Touya Mr. Daddy Issues when Hwks is so much worse. Touya just wants his OWN father to do the basic thing of loving him.

Touya should've busted Hwks' dad out of jail and become besties with him. Dad swap or whatever.

[todomitoukei]

The thing about this ending is that it feels like it only works if you don't think about anything that has happened in this story.

I genuinely wish Horikoshi didn't even entertain the whole "saving villains," thing in this story if this ending was going to be brutal on them.

LMAO that's unfortunately very accurate. The amount of contradiction and inconsistency is what makes this ending so frustratingly bad.

I think there would have even been in a way for the story to end with the villains dead, but it doesn't work with the original tone of the story, nor with the overall theme, the messages it is claiming to send or with the final chapter.

It's like the events of the story didn't affect the characters or the world around them. Shouto spent so much time talking about how he is just like his brother, spent months developing a technique to stop his brother from hurting others and especially himself, mentioning that he doesn't even know his own brother and voicing the desire to change that, yet the ending doesn't support this anymore. Despite telling us that Touya is slowly dying, the family doesn't act like that is the actual case.

It really feels like halfway through the story Hori decided to make Endvr the main character and turn both Touya and Shouto into mere plot devices to further Endvr's "development" rather than focusing on the far more interesting story of these two siblings who were indirectly raised to be enemies, yet slowly have to realize their similarities and fix their relationship and just be happy like they deserve.

How someone could write such a nonsensical ending is beyond me, but the fact he made us follow this story for years for this is infuriating.

[todomitoukei]

im not that anon but id like to also share a reason why endeavours atonement arc was shite.

i dont think he ever told the "failure" kids that they werent failures. and he took like forever until they all almost died to actually say sorry to them for any of what he did.

his way of atoning is to just distance himself from them, as if he wasnt already doing that, he doesnt even ask what they want him to do

it also falls flat because before his atonement he was just constantly dehumanising them, just to switch and act like its all good because he decided to better because his original goal has been reached, being the best, strongest. its not like he can train shouto to beat all might when all mights not in the game anymore.

Yeah, he pretty much rebranded himself without actually doing anything differently from before.

Back in the Todofam backstory chapters (301-302) when the family is gathered around him in the hospital and they reflect on where things went wrong, when Fuyumi and Natsuo express their own guilt for what happened to their older brother, neither Endvr nor Rei stop them from those claims as if siblings - and more importantly kids - are in any way responsible for what happens to another kid.

That scene would've been a fantastic moment to show some actual character growth from him by intervening to ensure them they are not at fault whatsoever for Touya's situation and that it's Endvr who is to blame.

Obviously, they're entitled to their emotions, but they are simply wrong in believing they were responsible in this.

It would've been possible to give this man character development, but like you said - he's all talk and no action (reminds me of some other character in that story...)

Like our boy himself said, words require actions and yet: nothing.

[todomitoukei]

Maybe it's good Touya is dead? Because if he is alive, I'm afraid Horikoshi will force some father and son bonding between them where Touya kinda forgives his dad. (This is half of coping and half considering)

The problem is that in the Todofam finale, Endvr promises to visit Touya on the daily to talk to him. Since Touya is physically incapable of leaving and is barely able to speak (let alone for long), having his already limited time be to listen to his father's self-pitying seems equally bad because either way, Touya is being forced (by Hori) to end up around his dad rather than finally getting to be free and be his own person for once.

I guess at least he's not the one pushing his abuser around in a wheelchair

[todomitoukei]

I know you're frustrated with Hawks character (all of us tbh) but am I the only one who feels like his character was wasted so much? It feels like Horikoshi knows what he was supposed to do with Hawks at the start but then scratched the idea off. And when Hawks suddenly became popular, Horikoshi didn't know what to do with his character other than being Endeavour's number 1 fan and a "pure" hero who could do no wrong. I also have suspicion that Lady Nagant's concept was supposed to be from Hawks. Seriously, Keigo's character is so wasted (I was waiting for his consequences or breakdown about what happened to Twice, but well... this is so disappointing)

He had so much potential! Whether it was in a hero turning villain or a guy that could've sympathized with the villains yet chose to stick to the people that have been grooming and using him for years - he started out as an incredibly interesting character.

Like you and others have said, it seems Lady Nagant is who Hawks was supposed to be, but just like the Todoroki family, he is yet another character who ended up being reduced to serve for Endvr's character instead.

Maybe, if you need that many characters to "develop" one single character, that character isn't all that great...

The way he killed a guy and then got promoted... there were so many interesting directions he could've taken Hawks, yet Hori chose to go for the most pointless one. Sorry to his fans.