#i guess i didnt have to read it especially since it pissed me off so much

[khaopybara]

Ok I have written and rewritten this trying to get all my thoughts together about affair so l apologize if im all over the place.

I am glad that wan ran away and im actually having second thoughts about wanting them to be together. One part of me understands and accepts that pleng has been slower at realizing her own feeling for wan (it happens) while wan has been all in since they were kids. The other half of me wants to slap pleng and shout at her "WHY DO YOU ALWAYS HAVE ONE FOOT OUT THE DOOR, CANT YOU SEE HOW MUCH WAN LOVES YOU!?!?" THIS WOMAN MARRIED A GUY SHE DIDNT EVEN LOVE TO KEEP HER PROMISE TO PLENG AND HAD HOPED THAT PLENG WOULD SEE THEIR WEDDING ANNOUNCEMENT!!! Admittedly a little extreme but I guess that's love!

During the entirety of pleng reading wans letter I was like "mhm yep" "so right" "exactly!" Wan said it all perfectly imo.

I feel like wan should only accept her back and forgive her if she agrees to go to both individual and couples therapy.

(also that tattoo shop was as busy as deane's 😆)

-🤫

In a similar manner, I've also written and rewritten this lol but I've been having so many feelings about WanPleng and Affair for the past couple of weeks, like seriously. And mind you, I will make no sense in this post. I'll sound like an hypocrite at times, but trust the process.

There was not even one character in Affair that didn't piss me off at some point.

Pleng pushes the protagonist privilege with me the most, and Wan has probably annoyed me the least.

But also, gotta give credit where credit is due (I suppose). The name of the show is Affair, so from the very beginning, I assumed they'd be problematic and not your usual GL sweet protagonists. I did expect it to be a more problematic-together thing, though, as in them actually being part of the affair (I could go on a full rant about Eek, but I'll stop myself), but instead, we got emotionally immature and stagnant former rich kid Pleng running away from every single one of her problems and coming up with solutions (that involve Wan) completely by herself without consulting anyone first. And it's not exactly an insecurity thing she developed for losing both of her parents + her wealth. She has done that since they were kids. It feels like an entitlement she has over Wan's life from day one.

On the other hand, we got overachiever Plengpleasing Wan who has tricked an already emotionally constipated and loveless Eek into dating and marrying her just bc Pleng told her to do it. She has always made her intentions so clear to Pleng, but I also wish she had used her words more, especially after they became adults.

They both need so much therapy and counselling, because if they stay together, it'll only be because they have this wrong notion that they are only able to love each other in this lifetime. And it's an insecure love, because in that letter, you can hear how much resentment she still has for Pleng leaving.

And mind you, I say this with love! They are extremely unhealthy to each other, and Wan's mom is kind of right when she says Pleng clouds Wan's perspective. They love each other unhealthily and at this point, they both deserve each other (and it's not like their options are good with a bunch of dudes who are all pain the asses. I'm not even kidding, not even one of them if a good fit. I didn't even remember who that Frank guy was and then remembered he's the one in the bike who I thought wanted Pleng first and then saw that Wan became a pretty teenager!!! And decided to switch his attentions to her instead.)

Anyway. I love them, and I hope they learn the magic of words and therapy and solve their issues. (Maybe they should get a therapist to every character, too.) Or maybe not. Stay unhealthy girls, but be unhealthy to others and not each other, alright?

[blackstarchanx3new]

Red's characterization is frustratingly inconsistent (based on the viz translation)

So I tried to do a "Red centric" FS reading the other day and honestly:

Red as a character lowkey pisses me off the more I think about him.

Trying to write him doing ANYTHING in FSR just, breaks my brain because: What character does he actually HAVE?

To explain further: WHAT CHARACTERIZATION DOES HE HAVE THAT IS CONSISTANT?

Because I can list a fuck ton of his traits, but none that remain consistent and reliable character traits that I can make into a rule set for me to follow to write him properly and which rules I could BREAK depending on the scenario.

I'mma admit this rn: This might be extremally bad faith reading and I'll admit that with my whole chest but it just bugs me the further I try to think about characterizing him.

Buuuut on the other hand. Venting my frustrations might help me get a grasp on what he's MEANT to be like and that'd be useful.

TLDR: I genuinely think Akira has no fucking clue what they were doing with him and I think he's the worst written Link of the set of four/Shadow Link. (This admittedly could also fall hugely on the fault of the translation team too with botched dialogue.)

And I even hypothesis they cut a whole chapter about him for time. (We'll get to that)

Full rant:

Okay. So you'd think this idiot would be pretty simple to figure out.

There's a lil page dedicated to each Link describing their traits, which are all pretty accurate. (This to my knowledge i only in the legendary???)

EXCEPT IN MY OPINION, RED'S. (Green's too but maybe I'll get into Green at a later time...)

His is just. Wrong. Upfront wrong depending on how you read his character...Which...is imo inconsistent based on the canon events of the story.

Let's go down the list of traits from this page

Easygoing - this is accurate since he takes the mission the least bit seriously between the four and gives everyone silly nicknames.

Bright- ...I'm going to assume this is in reference to his personality being "Optimistic" not his intelligence, as we'll get into soon.

Innocent - ...I have some counter arguments to this one but go off I guess. He's SUPOSIVELY more innocent than the other 3.

Simpleminded - again there is a shit ton to suggest the opposite, but well, get into that shit.

So, depending on how you read the word "bright," there are already inconsistencies with "simple-minded" (I'm trying real damn hard not to be obtuse as fuck here but I'm a stickler for wording...)

So for the "innocent" thing...okay this one particularly rubs me the wrong damn way. Because of a few diffent things.

Let's go over smth first:

Identifying the links, you can always tell its red in a panel due to his even screen tone tunic and white sleeves.

Blue has a gradient that goes almost black with screen toned sleeves. Green also has an even screen tone but black sleeves, and Vio has a noise screentone with white sleeves.

Now, Red's "Innocence" or imo lack there of.

Now thought bubbles are hard to pin to anyone specific without like, tails to lead to characters. The fs manga is guilty of not having proper word bubbles often or pointing at the wrong damn character. But here were lead to think the one who assumed the knights were dead were Red and Green. Green starting the thought and red finishing it here.

Red is the first one willing to stab who they assume to be very close people to them. Green as we know is the one NOT willing to fight and rather just defend himself.

So much for "innocent"

Tangent time: I'm not unconvinced the screen tone artist didnt fuck up here, and this was meant to be Blue, but...uh that's not what it ended up being

It's hard to tell because the eyebrows could be either red or blues from my guess.

Until coloring the first volume of manga I ALWAYS ASSUMED this was Blue.

It's for sure not vio or green since their eyebrows are nearly always blonde/not filled in while Reds are thin but occasionally have a bit more thickness, especially when giving heavier expressions. And if this was meant to be Blue. It would be a bit on the thinner side but would match way more personality wise.

Further on the whole "innocence thing"

Wtf was all this shit

Like...I get it. It's for comedy haha. But it just feels so out of character for him this scene just ends up annoying me.

Like it makes him feel so fake. It makes ALL HIS PREVIOUS AND SCENES HERE ON OUT FEEL FAKE.

His tears feel so crocodile considering he doesn't cry when stabbing someone he assumes to be his friends and does THIS SHIT immediately after assuming blue is MAYBE DEAD???

Seriously I kind of hate this scene it feels so two-faced, out of character, and mean-spirited for no fucking reason.

I get it. It was a joke haha. But why the fuck is he joking around and being a goof when his response to green possibly being dead TWICE was to panic and cry and be terrified for real. Why am I meant to take one seriously and not the other from a character standpoint.

From a character stand point: it just feels like he gives less of a shit Blue is in danger/dying vs Green and considering later character interactions I don't think that's meant to be cannon/intentional. (He also calls out to green exclusively on occasions so like...Again was this on purpose or on accident...)

I'm just not a fan of writing characters shittily and out of character for the sake of comedy that doesn't even land.

From a character context: it just looks like he doesn't give a shit about blue here. Which, fine write him mad blue has been a dick but this feels like such the wrong way to go about it to me. Idk.

Onto his intelligence:

Imma be real it feels like he just is only smart when the writing needs him to be for plot reasons and not for characterization reasons.

His intelligence fluctuates so damn much it drives me insane. He's either dumb as a brick or literally smarter than vio, and there's no in-between or reason behind why. It's not like he's good at certain things and dumb as fuck at other things it's literally just because Akira pulls it out of their asses and said so and that kind of writing especially character based pisses me off. 😭

Examples of red being smart:

I don't have a problem with Red having intelligence of his own, but they had to give vio 1 functional brain cells for this scene to work the way it did. Like red can be smart, it'd be great if he was in some instances! It'd even make sense they're all dumb at some shit or excel at others. That'd make them a good well rounded team!

Vio randomly being shit at directions would be a hilarious character trait.

IS this why he gets lost in the tower of winds? Idk if that's a genuine intentional writing reason, but I'm going to assume/head cannon. Imma say that's why, for my own sanity and making this scene make any sense. But i shouldn't have to justify vio being an idiot here with head cannons.

I'd have loved for a scene where Vio over thinks to shit about smth and red is just like "lol the answer is just this silly" but red and vio literally never speak sooooo...thats off the table.

That almost feels like that's what this was trying to be but just...failed at.

He randomly grows a brain again in the temple of darkness. But it just feels so out of nowhere, considering how he's such an idiot most of the book. Like his competent moments, feel SO out of character in comparison.

Like I can see what I THINK they were trying to do with him but it just doesn't land. It just feels like he randomly grows a brain every so often instead of always having one but he he just lags behind the other three in terms of other contexts.

What i think they were going for is "red IS smart. He IS capable. He just needs to be in the right scenario for it to shine. He has such a unique mindset compared to the other three and hes a valuable team mate"

What it comes OFF as... is bad writing.

Onto his like "crybaby" persona the manga and the Fandom itself likes to fall back on

I've touched on it but it feels so fake.

Like I genuinely cannot tell if this is meant to be a character trait I second guess but it's thrown out the window all the damn time.

-him stabbing that one knight with no fucks given really

-him quickly getting over blue being frozen in lue of a stupid joke

Okay let's see when he DOES CRY...

Virtually all the damn time but here's smth I noticed:

He doesn't cry when shadow dies lmfao.

But he does when they kill random rock babies.

Yeah sorry but that rubs me the wrong way too.

Like Reds whole reaction and facial expressions to shadow dying just gives "I wonder if we're having Wendy's of McDonald's later"

Like I think most people are too distracted by vidow to notice that shit but it's so off-putting from a guy who will take the change to bust out the water works at any given change doesn't shed a damn tear when a version of himself kicks the damn bucket.

Not even a reaction to vio being upset about it. Like wtf.

This is what I mean about him being inconsistent. Literally the entire manga is just "He does x sometimes but not other times when you think he would" I genuinely cannot find rhyme or reason to half his character traits and it drives me up a wall. There's no consistency to ANY OF IT and it just leaves this sense of fakeness and it rubs me such the wrong way.

One last thing:

I'm pretty sure he had a cut chapter centered around Red.

I don't have concrete evidence but here's smth i noticed:

This is the last time we see him before his next apearance

And then...suddenly. THIS IS HIS NEXT APEARANCE:

I'm sorry WHAT.

DID WE MISS SOMETHING???

Randomly:

He has a fairy. They've apparently been looking for the other three. TELEPORTATION IS JUST A THING WITHOUT EXPLANATION???

Like, Wtf????

What my opinion?

And SUDDENLY later Red's all like "I'm so independent!😇 "

WHEN. WHEN DID WE SEE THAT RED BECASE IMEDIATELY AFTER YOUR TOWN SCUFFLE YOU'RE WITH A FAIRY AND GET BLUE SO STFU.

If you want what I THINK happened in this hypothetical cut:

Red got away from the towns people and ran into the fairy, and Shadow shape shifted out of being that kid that stole his shit.

Because like...I never knew that kid was meant to be shadow Link until someone pointed that out as a possibility because...Literally I thought Red having his sword and shield gone after he left the waterfall was an art error and not because of the kid.

Like the fact that is even up for debate whether or not that kid was shadow or it could be misinterpreted is a flaw in the writing imo but whatever.

Like it was never solidly conformed. There's evidence but it wasn't stated/shown directly and having the idea Shadow can shapeshift to THAT DEGREE is very interesting/cool lore. (We know he can look like green/Link but still. Would have been nice concrete powers around him he can be random ass people too and he's not bound to being just Link.)

If you think about it:

Green got the Pyramid segment

Vio gets the whole shadow link subplot

and Blue gets the temple of darkness.

Wtf does red get. He gets tacked on in the temple of darkness KIND OF but that felt like it was ONLY because he didn't get his own chapter and they had to mash Blue and Red's arcs together making both of their arcs WEAKER. And it just, annoys me idk.

Aaaaanywaaaay. That's my rambling nonsense.

I think with the idea of what they were TRYING TO DO with Red's character I can get a better grasp of where to take him in FSR.

It's so hard to describe why Red gives me "uncanny valley" vibe in his characterization but I hope I did a decent job explaining my thoughts.

You probably noticed: When smth about red doesn't make any fucking sense. I try to rationalize it. But I don't think there was any thought behind a lot of what he does. Which is why it makes me annoyed. 😭

[ohwell-itsme-but-danganronpa]

Official Miu Iruma Post

[contains debate about the 4th case & trial of v3, post-game irouma, a dating show au with saiouma & kiiruma, talk about her abandonment issues, parental HCs and toxic yuri, just the normal way conversations in the Pit go, I simply cut out some of the screaming, distractions and put displaced replies closer to what they're replying to]

Hina: Kokichi’s Chapter 4 plan right It’s to do two things: Save him from Miu Make himself the villain Right Cause if that’s the plan WHY PUSH MIUS BODY OFF THE ROOF Clown: That was gontas idea!! Hina: No I’m blaming Kokichi for this fuck you Ves: i think he actually meant to kill everyone but that's an unpopular opinion sndhsgfgfh Hina: THEN HE SHOULDVE LET MIU KILL HIM IM SORRY MIU HAD THE BEST MURDER PLOT IN V3 AND SHE DIDNT EVEN GET TO USE IT BECAUSE KOKICHIS A FUCKING MINDREADER Apollo: LIKE HOW DID HE KNOW? WHAT. SHE WAS ACTING WEIRD SO HE CHECKED THE COMPUTER CODE? [yes. I assumed that this was just. canon] Sini: HE COULDN’T LET MIU KILL HIM Ves: NO?????????? THAT WOULD BE FUCKIGN STUPID???????????????????? Hina: No but if his plan was to kill everyone, Miu probably could’ve gotten everyone killed Ves: "i COULD convince the strong one and the detective to help me and carefully manipulate the trial til the end, but why don't i just throw it all to the wind instead-" miu was VERY OBVIOUSLY gonna kill someone dude Clown: MIUS SO BAD AT HIDING HER INTENTIONS BUT ITS OKAY I LOVE HER

Hina: Okay no I’ll give him that But Kokichi makes a lot of assumptions Like the “He’d be frozen in a touch” thing That’s a big assumption to make Ves: NO IT IS NOT THAT IS JUST ASSUMING MIU ISN'T COMICALLY STUPID IF SHE DIDN'T THINK OF THAT SHE WOULDN'T DESERVE TO BE CALLED A GENIUS if miu has control over the virtual world, then of course she'd add some way to stop him from resisting. that's an educated guess Clown: He didn't think he was going to be frozen but I think he assumes Miu was smart enough to make a fail safe!! She needed to do something to make him killable. I don't think he knew what it was but he knew she did something! Especially since she's openly telling everyone that she took away all dangerous objects and diminished their strength?? What are you scheming queen?? Apollo: I get he's smart but can he even read code because I doubt it was just written 'freezes when Miu touches' [with what monokubs pulled up for them. it was kind of written like that] Hina: No code is usually written very fucking simple Me: It wasn't an assumption? He knew. Because he looked into what she was doing.

Apollo: I still think he should have just 'decided to piss her off' and not show up to the meeting on the rooftop. Either that or he acts real sus so someone follows him up and sees her about to murder him Clown: I think he did act kinda suspicious! Like actively making a show of needing someone to watch him or clearly getting pulled off to the side so Miu could talk to him. Chee: He was being more sus than usual and that made V3 think “someone needs to watch him” Idk why they sent Gonta over when its Kokichi actually Clown: I like to think he gave her a chance to back out. If Miu had seen him act this way and still proceed with her plan. Well that that was that. Again. Probably not what they were intending BUT LET ME BELIEVE THEY WERE FRIENDS AT ONE POINT SOBS Chee: DUDE NO I ALSO LOVE THINKING THEYRE FRIENDS THEY FUCKING WORKED TOGETHER FOR FUCKS SAKE Tehyre friends to me fuck whatever canon goes against that!! Ves: she picks him because he's one of the only people who would conceivably go to a secluded place with her and that Hurts me Me: With his views on killers he most likely thought that Miu will go for a kill no matter what and will do something else if she's not forcefully stopped. Plus, he was pissed off first, she betrayed him and he was especially cruel when talking about her after that, some elements of the plan were going out of the way to say "fuck you" to Miu (and using that to draw more suspicion to himself, but that was not necessary to do that), I think he wanted Gonta to be the winner, as somebody who stayed on his team, making it his victory, but then Gonta wasn't following the plan, meaning that he must have betrayed him too, and then Kokichi lost it

Sini: OOOOH! You mean the interpretation of him killing everyone… Let’s be real, if that’s the case, then yeah, he was dumb. Cause even with what Ves said, HE STILL FUCKED UP! FUCK REVERSE PSYCHOLOG! WHY TF WOULD YOU OPEN YOUR MOUTH SM YOU DUMB BITCH!? YOU’RE GIVING OUT MORE EVIDENCE He was so dumb for it, idc. Bro, stfu….Saying Gonta is the culprit!? WHY!?!? SHUT UUUPPPP I get the logic but fuck man! It’s so risky and stupid! Why would you do that!? Ves: OH I DON'T THINK THAT WAS PART OF THE ORIGINAL PLAN CAN YOU IMAGINE LMAO that's BEYOND "risky and stupid" sini did you think i thought this the whole time HE'S BETRAYING GONTA AT THAT POINT I- Chee: YEAH I THINK THAT WAS NOT PART OF THE PLAN Me: It definitely wasn't part of the original plan, that was the moment he snapped Sini: Oh. I knew that too but I forgot how you interpreted it. But he does similar shit even in the beginning of the trial. I just….I think it’s dumb. This is part of why I don’t think he planned to kill everyone Oh yeah, I know that. I just wasn’t sure what they meant, there are many ways you can interpret this theory. But yeah, I agree that he thought there would be no reasoning with her and she would kill him regardless. While he could’ve let Miu kill him, keeping Miu alive is good in case the plan were to ever fail. Her plan was really good, even Shuichi noted that without finding out about the secret of the virtual world that they would’ve been fucked. She could’ve very well won had he just let her kill him, but still, it’s better he have control over the situation than potentially die for no reason while the game continues. I get that. But like….What did Gonta do to not follow with the plan? From what I remember, by the time Kokichi outed Gonta….He didn’t do anything?? No one suspected him until he brought it up. Gonta became suspect because of him. Why would he do that? Are you saying he got so pissed that Gonta was good at not being sus that he changed his mind? Cause I honestly find that ridiculous. It is literally essential that Gonta not be suspicious so that they win…. Was it a method to make Gonta not suspicious by making him suspicious? But again, why? No one was ever suspecting him and he should know that most of everyone would never suspect him as the culprit at that point because it’s Gonta. Yes, they’ve suspected Gonta plenty times before and you could say they only reacted that way cause Kokichi was the one saying it, but…I feel at that point everyone grew closer to Gonta and would have that genuine bias. Kokichi outing Gonta just led to him spewing more evidence that got them fucked even before he snapped at him. He was basically giving hints since the beginning of the trial. I always read it like he was doing what he usually did until Shuichi and the others pissed him off. Then Gonta pissed him off by denying everything and everyone believing him despite the evidence. Ves: it's not that gonta didn't follow the plan, it's that he followed it too well. you have to remember that kokichi had no way of knowing about the cord mixup; from his perspective, gonta was just lying his ass off. and he was lying so well kokichi wouldn't've been able to tell if he hadn't seen him kill her. even in an interpretation where he planned to betray gonta from the beginning, i think that would've freaked him the hell out

Sini: But he wasn’t really lying before…. He wasn’t doing anything. He was barely present in the trial until that point. Ig that’s a form of lying, maybe Kokichi expected him to be all nervous and shit?? But….Is that good enough reason to out him and abandon your plan??? I see some people say how he could’ve suspected Gonta as the mastermind, but I can only see him suspecting that after he outed him. And even then…If he was the mastermind…Why would he follow his plan in the virtual world in the first place? Surely Kokichi must’ve thought of that. To think he’s the mastermind based off of good lying alone, while understandable, is also a bit of a stretch. Kokichi knows there is more to Gonta than what people see, he’s seen him lie before. It’s just at that moment where it’s taken to a whole other level that even rivals his own (at least that’s what he thinks). But still…I just….He said that unprompted and I can’t think of a good reason as to why he’d do that after planning all this out There is Gonta debating Shuichi before I think but that’s still not enough to do something like call him the culprit I feel…. I just don’t understand it. Maybe I’m giving Kokichi too much credit, but it’s weird. Ves: gonta has repeated that he doesn't understand over and over in a very convincing (because it's true) way by that point tho idk ch4 doesn't make a lot of sense to me without the idea that kokichi was originally planning to follow through TBF though it's the clearest example of kokichi being a microcosm of v3; it's meant to be up to the player to decide what they believe, and that means there's evidence both ways. it's definitely a weird way to write a character Sini: But again, Kokichi knows he isn’t stupid. He must know he can probably pull off just saying “I don’t understand”. Not to mention, I don’t think he’d do something like this at all. Chapter 1 he acknowledges how if they die, they can just bring in new people and the games will continue. While everyone dying is a unsatisfying ending, it’s not enough to end the game. It has enough entertainment value and not enough scandal where it could do that much damage. Kokichi must still think this is all a show even if at that moment where he believed what he saw in the vault was real. Is it really winning the game and bringing justice to those who died if he follows the rules practically to a T and kills everyone? It’s not that much of a satisfying ending for him either. Ig he could’ve not known what else to do and was overwhelmed with despair, but I personally don’t think he’d want things to go that way. But that’s just me. I agree that it’s written in a way where you don’t really know what’s the truth. I understand the theory and I think the idea is cool, with enough evidence to support it. To me though, it just doesn’t jive

[I just got hit in the face with a crack theory: What if he made it so it looks like he gave in to the motive and wants to kill everyone so the mastermind doesn't intervene before he gets to flip the switch on them?] Ves: that's a totally fair interpretation!! i haven't asked - do you think he believed what he saw at the end of the tunnel :o? oh and also. i think believing what he saw would undo his ch1 belief about them just bringing more people in..? where would they get them from Clown: I guess that's assuming he'd believe the world really did end. But thats vauge too, how much did he believe it? How long? Did he even believe it in the first place? WHO KNOWS Ves: i think he did believe it. i mean, he was THERE. he saw the broken world stretch out to the horizon, he felt the air leave his lungs that's very different than a flashback light Sini: Well, that’s the thing. I feel like he believed what he saw but soon afterward started to doubt it given everything else he witnessed. Why things are the way they are…It only makes sense if it’s a show. Kokichi himself acknowledges that in Chapter 5. The flashback lights….There’s so many things to not be trusted here. If they can pull off crazy rooms, executions, and robots, could they fabricate what he saw and experienced? Maybe it is real but there are survivors out there. I think Kokichi was in constant conflict about it Ves: it could be a show for just one person. i think that'd haunt him and yeah i agree about him being in constant conflict Clown: I do think he believed it for a good while!! It's hard not to. It probably effected him more than he realized. But at the same time the world around his is changing in completely unnatural ways, he acknowledges that it feels as though they're following a script sometimes. So that gave him room for doubts. But he couldn't really be sure Kodaka was a coward for not giving us a bonus unlockable scene where ouma sees the world end, BY HIMSELF, ALL ALONE, and just implodes in on himself for a little while I wanna see how he reacted!!! I wanna see why he even managed to get up again!! Ves: MAYBE I'M ALSO A COWARD JESUS Sini: I’m fine with not getting anything. The whole point is that he’s a mysterious character. The way we see him is supposed to be somewhat similar to how Shuichi sees him, constantly questioning wtf he is up to and how he feels But that would be cool tho Clown: I can agree with that! I do love that there's so much room to theorize about him This is entirely self indulgent askshjdh WHERES THE POV SWITCH KODAKA?? WHERE?? Sini:Yeah, same. I indulgently want a Kokichi Ouma novel but writing wise that’s a shitty idea Clown: Yeahhh, unless their willing to break away from the embodiment of a lie thing, at least a little, than i wouldn't have high hopes Or they could evilify him more thats also something that could happen

Hina: Me writing a whole Kokichi Miu fight scene be like Chee: no dude I actually enjoy that BC THERES NO WAY AFTER ALL THAT HAPPENED IN GAME THEY WOULDNT FIGHT Im just still praying theyll be friends after the fighting or something [sob emoji]

[conversation went into detail about how fucked up Kokichi novel could turn out to be if we got it (and so it's best it doesn't happen)] Clown: Miu and kokichi get an explosive divorce Ves: okay no i want this actually that sounds HILARIOUS Sini: That already happened in V3 tho Me: they are SO divorcecore <3 /pos Ves: they are the OPPOSITE of the "i don't argue with beautiful women, my wife hits me with a hammer and i walk it off" tweet Me: and I love that for them! frenemies irouma is nice, but they could take that to a higher level Ves: IT IS romantic iruma is just so inherently hilarious that "higher level" is divorce court Sini: “My wife tried to hit me with a hammer, that bitch got strangled” Clown: It's like the ending of one of those shows where they try and pair everyone off into couples but they explode as a result Maybe literally Miu puts a bomb in oumas cereal Sini: It’s their love language, dw Clown: They only got married because the people of their affections also got hit with the straight people ray and they're mourning together/hj Shuichi should marry maki to make it worse Ves: they're all cheating on each other Worst Suburb Of All Time Me: this gave me a VIOLENT flashback to that one hamilton songfic (Say No To This? I think) where Miu wrote Saihara a threathening letter bc Ouma was her husband and saiou was having an affair

Sini: Salmon Mode: Love is Blind edition Ves: hold on i've got a better one the ultimatum …actually hold on maybe i'm NOT joking an ultimatum au would kinda slap… are saiou in preexisting relationships or did they come together shuuichi issuing the ultimatum to kokichi would be TASTY but so would them falling in love and leaving their unhappy relationships for each other,,,, one person in a couple wants to get married, the other isn't so sure. they go on the show where they pick another person to be in a 'trial marriage' for a couple weeks, then go back to their original partners, then decide 'the ultimatum' is 'marry or our relationship is over' Clown: Oohh man I dunno. Them as a preexisting couple is ANGST AND PAIN and ✨️ drama ✨️ But them coming together is [teary eyed cat emoji] Hina: Okay but that's so good if they're preexisting in a relationship Me: the "getting back together" energy (despite there being no break-up and only a threat of it) is definitely up your alley and it could be neat, but them getting paired up for a few weeks fake relationship that's not intended to last should be injected in my bloodstream immediately or I'll die Ves: they're meant not to last, to be a test before they go back to their Real partners, but they find themselves happier than they ever were AUUUUUGH Hina: If we're being realistic though wouldn't Kokichi bail the moment Shuichi offers an ultimatum like that? Ves: IF WE'RE BEING REALISTIC NEITHER OF THEM WOULD GO ON REALITY TV IN THE FIRST PLACE THIS EXISTS SO I CAN HAVE FUNNY SAIOUMA COUCH ASIDES AND ENDGAME SMOOCHES Clown: Can't remove brain from shuichi giving the ultimatum because ouma is a flighty nerd- NEED THERE TO BE A SWEET SCENE WHERE GONTA AND KOKICHI BOND BECAUSE OF THEIR SIMILAR CIRCUMSTANCES BUT ON OPPOSITE ENDS. Gontas straightforward point of view seems illogical, it doesnt even take into account how much could go wrong, but its suprisingly comforting. Maybe ouma shouldn't focus on the fail safes… AND HE GAINS PLUS 1 BUDDY OLE PAL [I skipped a big part of the conversation suggesting other couples, but one of them was Gonta and Kirumi] Ves: gonta and kokichi come out Best Friends he's the best man at the saiou wedding unsure if kokichi gets this privilege also because. kirumi. but STILL Clown: She doesn't want his greasy face in the wedding party thats understandable If you wanna add some ✨️ drama ✨️ maybe shuichi is just a tad jealous over seeing ouma so genuinely connect with someone. After such a short time too?? Shuichi goes "this is fine" as if he isn't iron gripping the table Ves: he thinks kokichi's left him for bigger tits greener pastures meanwhile gonta is patting his back while he wails drunkenly about shuuichi inevitably leaving him he's NOT jealous he is a responsible partner he does not feel Bad Emotions he does NOT- he's not coping and seething that gonta is better at protecting kokichi from spiders

Ves: who is shuuichi's partner. rantarou is Not Allowed it hurts my brain Hina: Wow smh Miu/j Ves: he'd never pick her but GOD it'd be funny Clown: MAYBE KIIBO, FOR THE EXTRA LACK OF BRAIN CELLS Did Miu drag kiibo there?? Ves: love hotel abandonment issues flashbacks Clown: She would vent this in a completely public scandalous way I love that for her Miu iruma the walking disaster beloved Ves: why doesn't kiibo want to get married? is it just bc miu's being Like That about it or does he have his own issues Hina: What if their relationship is still fairly new Like less than a year Clown: "We aren't financially stable and the average expectancy of dating years before marriage is 4-6 years, we haven't yet to agree upon how many kids we would have because 8 is illogical. I think we should wai-" and Miu is throwing a tantrum Ves: i don't think i've ever seen kiiruma as anything but a fluffy side ship this is spinning in my brain oughhh miu iruma you are the worst gf of all time i love you messy bitch she's gonna key his car they are neurodiverging in opposite directions kiibo's autistic robot ass is planning things out according to nothing but logic meanwhile miu is traumatized and brain damaged and putting beans in all his shoes he doesn't Get why she's so sensitive about this he's said he's not going to leave her, and he's never proved himself a liar, so why doesn't she believe him??? actually on that topic. why do u guys think miu is Like That?? she apparently has very severe abandonment issues but they're brought up ONCE and NEVER EXPLAINED it bothers me i need to fill that gap with hc

Sini: Miu [handshake emoji] Kokichi Crippling trust/abandonment issues. Your love? They do not see Ves: and that's why they make such inch resting friends :) Sini: I hc her mother left her and her dad. Perhaps she also had a childhood friend who abandoned her since in the Love Hotel she sees you as one Ves: i'm inclined to say someone (a parent?) just BOOKED it while she was in the coma Clown: Oohhh!!! Similar hc!!! I also think she was raised by a single dad. Mom was too focused on her career Ves: i gave her a single mom LMAO does she just radiate Divorced Kid Energy??? Sini: SHE DOES HONESTLY What if they left after her coma? I can imagine it going like that…. Ves: i mean her personality was probably different by then maybe they just…didn't like her anymore…… Clown: Ahsgshwhs, I just think part of her sense of humor comes from the fact that her father was like…one of those drunk uncles who gives you shittiest dating advice and has been divorced 3 times and is not at all a bad person but has clearly made far too many mistakes. And he's her MAIN caretaker. And so he talked to her more like a friend than a daughter and so she really was craving some sort of bond she considered unbreakable, someone to take care of her. AND WHATS THAT?? ON TV?? YOUR ROMANTIC ENDEAVOR WOULD DIE FOR YOU?? YES PLEASE??? Ves: SHE JUST WANTS SOMEONE TO OPEN THE FUCKING DOOR FOR HER, IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK Sini: Men these days, smh Hina: Easy, don't date men Ves: WOMEN WILL NOT FIX HER ISSUES HINA Clown: WOMEN COULD MAKE HER WORSE, TOXIC DOOMED YURI WHEN Ves: her and ouma, if you're not a COWARD Sini: Toxic doomed yuri fem!Kokichi/Miu. 100k words- Me: where [and I still don't see a fucking link] Hina: Ever female Kokichi I've seen scares me So yes I am a coward Me: multigendered Kokichi then, it can still be yuri and that's my preferred hc anyway Ves: kokichi's already a girl to ME. multigender queen Hina: I mean Big boobs Heterosexual Female Kokichi Sini: The big boobs are a red flag Me: I can excuse heterosexuality, but I draw the line at Kokichi with boobs /ref Sini: YOU EXCUSE HETEROSEXUALITY!?

[exocynraku]

thunder spoilers under the cut!!! read at your own risk!!! here are my opinions on the book!!! i wrote this right after reading originally on the 4th and planned 2 post it on the 7th. it's not the 7th exactly where i live but the wiki updated with spoilers since it's the 7th over there so whatever

okay, so, overall, i liked it. i didnt LOVE it, but i liked it. sunbeams chapters were all great, and with nightheart travelling with frostpaw, he finally had the chance to not be an ass, and he wasn't as bad! i actually read his chapters this time, and oh my god frostpaws chapters were INCREDIBLE!!!! i loved her interactions with whistlepaw and smoky, and wow. she did get spayed, LOL! got spoiled for that early (thanks, assholes!) i was NOT expecting to meet the new cats of the park! i totally thought we'd encounter warriorclan! i'm a little bummed about that, but the cats of the park were all super nice to read about which was super nice. especially bee! thought i'm upset she has the same name as another cat.. wails the reveal of splashtail i totally expected, but i'm a little surprised over curlfeather. i know that there's been suspect she was a villain, but damn! i wanted to hold onto hope! but hey, her being evil is super interesting. plus, wow! she's in the dark forest! i guess i shouldve expected that, but it's felt like forever since a cat got sent there. (which i dont think is rlly true? juniperclaw went i think that was tbc? whatever, still feels so long ago) also i didnt mind that it was a travelling book! i know a lot of ppl HATEEEE travelling books, but i think there was still enough substance to make it interesting! now, that ending... er, hard to explain my feelings. i like cliffhangers because they make me really excited for the next book, but man! this one hurt bad! i want frostpaw to jump out !!!! raugh!!! also, waffle and wasp are cute! i'm happy theyre coming to the clans! we NEED more genetic diversity SOBS and honestly, with frostpaws thoughts right before leaving the park, with the clans needing to become less harsh and fighty, and more open, especially to outsiders? that was incredible! genuinely, genuinely incredible! and i hope they go through with it, i really do! berryheart is also an interesting character. if i'm being honest, i hope she leaves. not becaues i dont like her (i think she's one of the most interesting characters we've had in the series for a long time, even if she sucks), but because like i said earlier we NEED more genetic diversity in the clans! more cats with long blood lines need to leave or die, and new cats w/o long blood lines, or none at all need to start existing. all of the incest is pissing me off. so i'm glad that somecat with not a particularly long bloodline, but a big one (berryheart has like 70 siblings) is leaving. plus those other cats. last misc things, finally, some tree action! it's a miracle! i also like how there were mentions of 1: thunderclan being overcrowded (please please please mass exctinction event GO) and 2: tree being mediator, but never really having the chance to shine. also, cherryfall sucks. jeez louise! i used to like her for gods sake! spotfur and her kits were adorable, i liked ivypool in this book, and oh my god, brambleclaw finally gets less of a spotlight! overall, i liked it. not the most amazing book to ever exist ever, but it definitely got my excited for the next books!!! really happy with ASC so far and i'm pumped to see what's going to happen with it in the future.

also, with the cats of the park cats being introduced, i'll have to draw them! oh boy more work for me to do

[fictionkinfessions]

OOH CANON SPECIES NICE i have so many fun facts to share that i have learned after 2 years straight of kinning this fucking bug

-our home planet was indeed called Dokar and other aliens called us Dokarians but we called ourselves Zorathians. its like the difference between Earthling and Human, basically.

-yes i was a Zorathian named Zorak. you ever met a person named Guy before? moving on

-we evolved from creatures very similar to Earth insects (especially mantids and grasshoppers) but over time as our brains enlarged we lost a few key features. our wings became vestigial imprints on our abdomens and we only had 4 limbs total–no extra arms hiding anywhere.

-Dokar was a hot and humid planet, and we were cold-blooded creatures. I always preferred a toasty climate, which I believe was an early point of comraderie between me and Moltar.

-Speaking of blood, while we were very much bugs externally, internally our vascular and respiratory systems were more... reptilian-ish? it was the only way we could survive at our size; there's a reason 6ft dragonflies aren't around anymore.

-We didn't exactly live in hives or anything, but we were a bit of a social species. We had cities and schools and local government. The way this interacted with our instinctual proclivity towards cannibalism was interesting. Since it was practically involuntary in certain situations, it was seen as legally distinct from murder and therefore not a crime. It was still considered very rude to do it outside of those scenarios, though, like smoking in a crowded bus shelter or pissing on somebody's doorstep. Sure, you were responding to a bodily need, but right now? And right here? It was just sort of a fact of life that if you were unlucky, at any moment you could be devoured by a stranger. Or, more likely, by your mom (we didn't have dads. I'll give you one guess why)

Would you believe it if I said there was even more. I'll cut myself off here though. Thanks for reading all that, un-thanks if you didnt, -Zorak (#🛸🎹💥)

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[misterradio]

never been so excited to watch a movie knwoing full well it would be shit

finished so here are my thoughts

first of all i mostly know abt this movie thru 1) memes 2) saberspark's review on it. from sabersparks review i knew it was gonna be horrible but honestly watching the whole movie i feel i understand the metaphors more. theyre not as bad as i was expecting. but the message is still incredibly blunt and poor.

like i was thinking it would be like All Books Are Bad. but instead its like Please Be Careful What you Fill your Head With. which is a very christian message (sounds like the concept of thought crime, but still understandable since yeah what you read/"consume" does impact your mentality) but makes way more sense than Dont Read At All. although in their bluntness it can come across that way.

also the globglogabgalab continues to be cool and them using him as a fatphobia tool in this movie was so uncalled for. i genuinely like him and he was pretty relatable tbh. if reading could make me a weird fleshy shapeshifter i would embrace that. propaganda fail

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WHYD THEY DROP OFF the troll guy not being able to multiply his gold. for the unfamiliar that idea is from a parable in the bible but i hate that story tbh (honestly dont know if im just not great at understanding metaphors of paarables bc lately when i hear a parable in church it'll piss me off but i digress) but they just didnt elaborate on if that guy sought forgiveness or not. IDR how the parable ends i think the guy who buries his gold does get punished which i think is cruel. but again i digress

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one thing that goes in line with the Careful What u Read message that i HATE is that this movie really wants to punish children for their curiosity. that SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!! curiosity is such a valuable trait to have and keep and nourish. accepting anything without question is always dangerous but especially in the context of propaganda (religious or political or other). just thinking abt this makes me feel like an enraged hypothetical parent about to leave an angry movie review saying Dont Show This to Your Children !!!!! well i guess this is my angry movie review but im not a parent.

okay my thoughts. bye (maybe)

[ooglywooglies]

i made a tag for my posts where i talk about GATE since i apparently do it a lot (and a friend sort of asked me to so theyre easier to find), and i went back and read the other posts ive made about it and it seems like i sort of flip flop between talking about how

you shouldnt humble brag about how being "gifted" set you up to be burnt out bc it placed high expectations on you (ie from my perspective, not what the GATE program did at all) and how people are confusing GATE with being on an honor roll

and about how being in GATE prevents kids with disabilities from receiving accommodations

and i guess in some ways they sort of contradict, because like i cant talk about the ableism problem with GATE without mentioning that i myself was in GATE and how that affected the way my schools administration tried (or didnt try) to handle my constant failing. and like thats a problem. its not ONLY a GATE problem, like i kind of assumed for a long time it was because of my standardized test scores (it probably also was that) especially since the tipping point in my case (for realizing i needed SPED and something needed to be done) was failing the SAT. like it does conflict with the sentiment i have that if you were in GATE you shouldnt frame "being gifted" as the source of your struggles in school.

but maybe it doesnt because really it isnt! the source is shitty school administration and baked in systematic ableism. and like, one thing that pisses me off about other "gifted kids" even people who DO label themselves correctly and were in GATE specifically, not JUST honor roll kids, is that we (me included sometimes, though i try not to) completely overlook how the structure of the american education system doesnt benefit kids who ARENT disqualified from SPED, how being in SPED is not far off from being "given up on" or "left behind", as someone who was BOTH of those things i can tell you its more frustrating as a left behind kid (who wasnt always a left behind kid i just mean they got there eventually and i also didnt graduate) to see people who objectively had it better talk about how uniquely hard their experience was

[smileymoth]

okay fine you two @guyphantom @gh0stofyesterday

please nobody crucify me i am unfortunately embarrassed about speculating about real people who i have never met and never will meet. also i say allegedly a lot because i don't want people to take my words to 100% accuracy because i spread misinformation on accident a lot

i am putting this under read more because i got too enthusiastic help

nobody really knows what the fuck actually happened that they split ways, Deuce says he got jumped afterward, that he was pointed a gun at, HU say that that never happened and he was a problem to carry around because none of them agreed w what he was doing. Like did they really gang up on him. Did they all bully him. It makes me feel weird being such a big fan because what if they really did do him bad, but then there's the other end of him being a massive fuckwad and not showing up to shows and using the very little money they had to pay for his own things (allegedly, to have Yuma on tour w him if i understood correctly-), which would obviously piss off ANYONE who tries to do any sort of business. He just... seems to have been an awful bandmate. He claims he doesn't know why he was kicked. So either he was delusional or denying things. i will be honest i have forgotten most of the lore since again i was first got into this band when i was 12 and i'm 22 now (i am never leaving the labyrinth) but like. AAAHH

obvs i don't know what he thinks now per say, but if we go by nine lives/invincible/nightmare... he got kicked out in 2009 and then he went to do his own shit and released stuff in 2012/17/18, so about 3 to 9 years later, he was still writing songs about them and how they betrayed him and especially Jdog, he just straight up namedrops him in Nightmare, which is understandable because weren't they besties and didn't they start the band together (with shady jeff? allegedly? thats what he claims at least. who are you. you got pointed a gun at thats all i know),

Its okay to hold grudges but is it really productive to hold onto something 9 years later, to write a song about it... It's fine really, but it really just comes off as very desperate and miserable. like im sorry this is 900% about HU. and ofc the r word, classy, i think the dog reference was intentional

Me and my friend discussed this, and he brought up an interesting point, that it's probably because all of his life falling apart always connects back to being kicked out of the band. Addicted to drugs -> I didnt have money and needed something to cope with -> why-? -> hu -> jdog. My music career dunked -> why > hu > jdog . you know. Everything goes back to them. so he probably feels such wrath toward them that he never let go of, because he couldn't pick up after being kicked out. I do wonder why because he had a very loyal fanbase from what i can gather. Did producers just fuck him over because he had no money and signed some leases that were fucked? Might've also been that he didn't release new music for a while after 2012 like he promised. It didn't seem like he had any PR managers or social media training too when I remember browsing his FB page in like 2017...

Like the musical direction in Nine Lives already wasn't the best, or maybe it just wasn't for me... I think gravestone is one of the best songs out of it, but it's also probably referencing to Hollywood Undead. Do you people think that his grudge toward HU is what kept him from growing as a musician??? Because if you think about it for too long it does start to seem so... Maybe it's not that, but that he will always be seen as the "former vocalist of HU" instead of his own thing. Like even I see him more as that rather than HU but i guess it's because he didn't become a big artist like he promises in every song he writes. (Again I don't know much abt rap scenes but that's probably also one of the things they do, much like being aggressive toward other rappers and picking fights so to say. sth abt the culture maybe) But again he states in his spotify bio and everywhere that HE's the one from Hollywood Undead and HE made them and THEY left him. It's like he can't let go of that title to become his own thing. Am I running in circles rn. Unintentional song reference.

I am very intrigued by whatever happened with him and Johnny tho, because the only diss track they made abt him was Lights Out (Funny story w that one: my mom knew I was a HU fan so she also proxy listened to them, and she once asked who is singing. and im like. Oh its them. "interesting they sound nothing like that usually" and I had to agree I guess. haha. Like it is very... different? I guess?) and J3T was the only one who didn't partake in it I think. And I've also heard people say it's because he didn't want to be in a distrack about him. But then he also states that J3T was one of the people who beat him up. Like what's going on here.

this is a bit rough tho like imagine you make a band and you get kicked out and they're like HAHA you suck.

But if you take into consideration that Deuce allegedly claimed he wrote all of their lyrics (when? i dont know) and if you compare the styles of his own songs and later hu songs then it doesn't really... match up... like swan songs sounds more like american tragedy than it does nine lives. you know

it does Seem like Perhaps the masks were Deuces idea or it's just something that he wants to be his thing so bad because he has had soo many masks. and some do look really cool. I like the disco ball one it looks real clean, (the fact that he used it for 'lets get it crackin' kinda makes me sad tho. sorry I really don't like that song and the lyrics of it)

Now if we take Nightmare.. I remember being extremely hyped about this song because I heard like a nokia recorded sound clip of it from some concert in 2017 and I downloaded a ''cleaned up'' copy of it from some weird mp3 website and probably got like 10 viruses on my samsung galaxy a4 but whatever . Not The Point.

like look at this and tell me it isnt about HU or Jdog in general. oh wait he namedrops him

''Here comes the pain over and over again'' You Are In Love With The Dog Please Let Him Go It's Been 9 Years. your codependency is hurting you

and then now when he released the ''collateral damage" album last year... you know I just feel bad for him because you can clearly hear the decline in his music and lyric writing it hurts me I hope he can pick himself up again at one point ... like literally no ill will to him I'm just a hater sometimes

This has nothing to do with HU but the cover of this is so bad it makes me want to cry .

Or well maybe it does have Something to do with it because is there a reason you used the exact same mask as you had in HU, just like, on a metal board. You'd think if he wants to be his own musician he would try to get away from the Hollywood Undead Branding as much as possible. Or is he trying to get clicks based on the familiarity of fans recognizing him because he really has nothing left at this point.

And if I go through the album then I can't even tell if it's him or if its someone else and the lyrics are just sad. They're really sad to just look at I don't even want to report on them.

I do wonder if any of them are still friends with Jeffree Star... Another interesting thing is that in one Bryan Stars interview with Ronnie Radke they spoke abt the 'Nobody likes me' song collab that he did w Deuce and he said Fuck Hollywood Undead they fucked him over badly. But then like, years later, last year, Ronnie was headlining(?) or at least performing together with HU and they seemed to be very buddy buddy with each other. Ofc some people were upset because Ronnie is a little freak who needs to be put down like a sick dog but it makes me wonder if it was more of just the management making them work together... But I dont think they'd be buddy buddy w someone that much if they didn't get along? Like they and Papa Roach had a fantastic tour together last year. It just makes you wonder. You know. But again like Ronnie Radke is the most unreliable guy ever, so did he also abandon Deuce like they complained about everyone else doing, or was it just a press tour for him.

This is Ronnies verse on that song but it does make me think that it's about HU once again, and well, Escape the Fate too, because in the interview he did tell Bryan about how they made up lies about him.

The amount of times Deuce says faggot or homosexuals tho is ridiculous. The average homophobe spends 30% more time thinking about gay sex than the average homosexual or whatever that saying is.

another thing about him. i know he's like part russian but did he really have to get a hammer and cycle tattooed on his hand. whats that about. thats like getting the swastika tattooed on your arm but go off king ??? i blame it on him being american

Me psychoanalyzing the relationship between hu and deuce every few months when the hyperfix hits again

[gejnialnie]

can an Anime Girl simply exist without her self-worth revolving around her chest size.

[peanut-butter-parkerxx]

"here, eat up"

⤷ Y/n was working with Kie at The Wreck and the boys decided to eat there  the same time her shift started to tease her, but she was too tired to joke back

Pairing: JJ Maybank x reader

Status: best best friends

warning: mentions of not eating the whole day (putting this out there just in case. now i do not tolerate this behaviour, pls eat and never starve yourself even if your late for smthg or not feeling like it, its important. anyways enjoy reading! enjoy eating! enjoy being yourself! and go kick some ass in wtv you're doing <33)

wc: 2.2k

*now i know The Wreck serves seafood but for the sake of this story they serve hot dogs too fjdksskk*

"Y/N TABLE 24!" Kie shouted over the cashier pointing at the table that needs to be served, y/n's stomach was grumbling, her head throbbing at whatever sound that was higher than speaking range. "bitch" she whispered to her friends, eyes closed from the headache

"what" kie whispered back, her eyes full of concern

"i told you i have a headache" she spat, her hands rubbing her forehead trying to soothe the pain

"oh shit, sorry. is it really that bad?" kie smiled sympathetically.

"well, yeah i barely slept and-" she was about to continue her rambling when the bell dinged, signalling them that new customers arrived. both of the girls eyes shot up to the door to be met by their annoying ass friends with shit eating grins

"oh you've got to be kidding me" kie rolled her eyes "what are you guys doing here?" she glared and the boys and sarah.

"uhm, we want to eat, now is that a way to welcome a customer?" JJ asked, putting his hand on his heart acting as if he was offended causing the rest of the group to do the same. the thing is, the group loves to joke around and tease eachother all the time. normally, y/n would fire back a comeback or playfully hit his head but she was too tired to do so, so she just rolled her eyes and went to her table

"whats up with her" John B asked point at y/n obviously faking her smile at the customers as she was writing their orders, the customers didn't know that but her friends knew her too well.

"she was studying all night" kie spoke typing something on the cash register.

"oh" the group nodded in understanding, they knew their beloved y/n. always trying to be the best, and working hard is basically her motto in life, that's why she fits well with the group. especially JJ. they've been best friends for a while.  her personality and determinations mixed with his easiness and care free self fits so well like puzzle pieces, they balance eachother out and even though JJ isn't well with coping with his feelings or showing them, he makes sure she gets the appreciation she deserves. for example, now.

the group sat on the table, John B and sarah facing the ocean view while JJ and pope sat on the opposite side. pope didn't want to sit next to the lovesick couple, even though sitting on the opposite side wont do any better, he'd just like to think it does. but JJ chose that spot so he could check on his exhausted best friend, just in case something happened. another one of JJ's qualities, is his protectiveness over the people he cares about. but he's a little more protective over y/n, even though he wont admit it, its true.

after y/n served her designated table she went to serve her other customers that kie assigned for her. her friends. she didnt mind since she needed some positivity in her shitty mood, and she can always count on her friends for that.

"sup dipshits, what do you guys want?" she slid on the seat next to JJ, pulling out her pen and pad from her pocket while JJ absentmindedly stretched out his right arm to hug her shoulders.

"wow" John B spoke "what a way to talk to a customer" he continued the joke from a few minutes ago, snickering. while sarah clapped.

"oh piss off, im trying to be nice here" she scoffed

"oh, this is called being nice?" pope continued

"i guess so" sarah spoke

"you guys seriously don't know when to shut up, huh?" y/n rolled her eyes, smiling at her idiot of a friend group.

after taking their orders, which took longer then than the usual time of ordering, she gave the slip to kie since she was going to the kitchen. as she was waiting for their meal to come, she prepared their drinks and served a couple of other tables. her body getting tired with every step, her back was tense, feet cramping, and mood obviously sour. but she needed to push through it, she only had a 2 hours left till her shift is over.

"here guys" y/n served the drinks to her friends, sarah and pope ordered sprite while John B and JJ took a couple of beers. y/n passed john B and sarahs drinks first since they were closer, hugging John B and obviously kissing sarahs cheek (its a simple gesture the girls do all the time), causing both of them to laugh. then she served pope and JJ's drinks, giving pope a hug from the back to which he reciprocated the gesture by touching her arms that were hung loosely around his shoulders.

"don't i get a kiss" JJ teased, pouting his lips jokingly making kissing sounds, y/n rolled her eyes at her childish best friend and smacked the back of his head causing him to groan "ow" he whined "you know i was joking!" he pouted, rubbing his head trying to soothe the sudden pain

"oh, you baby" now it was y/n's turn to tease him, but nonetheless she kissed his cheek which also caught him by surprise since he didn't expected it after being swatted in the back of his head, his cheeks flamed pink as he tried to supress the stupid grin on his face.

but his smile slowly turned into a frown when he heard the sound of grumbling "have you eaten today?" JJ turned to y/n, his eye brows furrowing not wanting to believe what he was thinking, has she not eaten today at all? no, maybe she just ate breakfast early and couldn't eat lunch due to her shift, JJ's thoughts kept swirling around his head, with every thought he assumed the worst.

"i told you, i was studying all night. i barely came here on time" she whispered, not wanting to make a big deal out of it, when it clearly is.

"what do you mean you couldn't ea- okay, your shift is over get your ass down and finish my beer, actually no, don't drink that on an empty stomach get yourself a bottle of water and DRINK" he shooed her, but she wouldn't budge

"i can't! some new inspectors are coming at any moment, maybe they've already arrived! i dont know! so i cant just eat and drink whenever i want to" she hissed, looking around the restaurant to see if there are any new faces or most importantly, her boss. coz if he saw her spending one more minute at that table he'll kick the squad out for distracting her.

JJ wouldn't take no for an answer, so he signalled John B to give him his backpack and took out a bottle of water. "take it" he said extending his arm for her to take the bottle

"JJ i just told you i can't- and look kie's dad is literally scanning the place i don't want to be the one ruining this for him" she tried to reason with him, once she saw that her boss was looking at her she immediately took out her pen and pad acting as if she was writing down something for the table, JJ obviously looked at where she was looking at to see Mr Carrera, so he played along and opened the bottle and drank a bit.

once he saw that kie's dad left, he yanked y/n to sit next to him and lifted the bottle to her lips "drink" he said sternly, now y/n knew her best friend, she wasn't the only one with determination, so rolling her eyes, she gave in and opened her mouth slowly drinking from his water bottle. this wasn't weird for the pair. they've always been comfortable around eachother, more so than others. they always share their foods with eachother, especially when they were trying something different, what he liked about y/n is that she shamelessly admits that she loves food, like more than most girls would.

she could literally stuff her whole face and she wouldn't be embarrassed of it, even if it was infront of the 3 boys, or infront anyone in general.

after drinking a couple of sips, she pulled away, savouring the feeling of the cold water going down her throat. "thank you" she whispered, giving JJ one last kiss, on the cheek of course, before slipping out of the benches to go serve other customers. never failing to make her best friend blush, as always.

15 minutes later, it was time to serve their foods, so y/n walked up to them again, a warm smile tugged on her lips as she remembered what her caring best friends did. He was always this caring with her, and it always made her heart leap.

"here you go" she did her round of serving to the table, each face was funnier from the other, you could tell they were starving! stuffing their faces the second the plate hit the table. what surprised her is how JJ was suspiciously calm? he was picking out some topping off his hot dog which he normally doesn't do, picky eater. as y/n was walking away again, JJ called out her name and gestured for her to come back.

"here, eat up" he took his hot dog off his plate moved it closer to her mouth, opening his mouth, silently telling her to do the same. but she couldn't, goddammit JJ she thought

"JJ you know i cant eat right now!" she scoffed, she was annoyed on the outside but her heart was exploding on the inside.

"what? you haven't eaten all day coz of your stubborn ass trying to be Einstein or some shit, Mr. Carrera isn't here, and i took out (a hot dog topping you don't like) coz i know you don't like it" he smiled genuinely as if he was proud of himself, he knew she couldn't resist his 'sweet innocent smile' that's how he made her do some crazy shit that were definitely dangerous but created beautiful memories. sighing dramatically she gave in muttering a quick "fuck you" under her breath, no doubt about him hearing it since his grin grew 100 times wider.

he basically shoved the whole hot dog to her face, quickly getting a napkin to wipe off the ketchup before Mr Carrera would see anything. "atta girl" he took a bite off the hot dog slowly beginning to relax. y/n was pouting, playfully glaring at JJ for him winning but grateful nonetheless, and he knew that. "see? it wasn't so bad" he shrugged, extending the hotdog for her to take another bite but then catching her boss in the corner of his eye immediately retracting it and taking a bite again.

"that was close" she hissed "but thank you" she smiled, leaning in and kissing him. like really kissing him! startling the both of them. when she realized what she was absentmindedly doing, she pulled away but not in JJ's watch. he kissed back hovering over her slightly, hand going to her waist pulling her closer as the other cupped her left cheek deepening the kiss.  after a few seconds they pulled away, eyes both wide in disbelief. he couldn't stop looking at her, his heart was practically exploding by the time he saw her smile growing.

"i think i should be thanking you" he grinned causing her to punch his shoulder lightly, suddenly getting shy from his presence. taking her tray she waved at the group, cheeks burning as she realized that the group was watching the whole thing. "bye" she squeaked, sprinting to the kitchen. gasping slightly from the running her face broke out into another gorgeous smile. she squealed as she took everything in.

while JJ was being mobbed by his friends teasing him and asking him all sorts of stupid questions, ignoring all of them, just thinking about her soft lips on his, already craving it her touch again.

"i dont think i've ever seen JJ blush before?" sarah commented, smirking at the flustered boy that was playing with his hat nervously.

"me neither" John B continued

"my theory is correct, JJ Maybank does become a softie to a girl he actually likes" pope raised his finger dramatically.

"yeah stop being soft man, it doesn't look good on you" John B snickered to which JJ flipped him off

"shut up"

ive been so caught up in school that i finished this in 2 weeks 😭 2 WEEKS and yes and its rushed since i have to go study anyways hope you guys enjoyed it and feel free to request smthg!

have a wonderful morning/afternoon/evening/night!

[vampiremourning]

parliament of knives hasnt officially updated yet as far as im aware but it looks like some new things have been added into the code in preparation 

i saw something in the code a while back about being a malkavian but this is the first time ive seen it on the startup page so thats something neat. & lucca was teased a while back as being one of the potential romance paths, so no real surprise there. her section has no variables in it for now, and i havent combed the rest of the text to see if its been added in the actual game, but at least we know its definitely on the way. no bouchard romance variables to be found, but i know there was some point where jeffrey dean either implied or outright said that was something he wanted to explore. it might just not be in the code yet, or it could just be shelved for now. i 100% believe he was serious about wanting to add that in though and i can already see the skeleton of how it would develop even just playing though bouchard’s alliance or speaking positively to him. 

now this could have fully been there before and i just missed it, but ive peeled back ch 10 more than a few times now trying to see how i can trigger the best ending, and i dont remember this section being there at all. its definitely interesting though and im glad that kashif gets some more screentime. the last time he featured prominently in one of my playthroughs i somehow got him executed so uh. this is Much Better. but it seems overall he has more variables/appearances in general based on what looks to be a fairly updated/reorganized startup page. i wouldnt be super surprised to see him get a romance path later on either ngl. 

i definitely Do Not remember reading this before? it seems like its probably one of the better endings to get especially if you like corliss. its the final choice of the ending options on the page (so far) & its also an ‘*else’ choice, so im not really sure what conditions need to be satisfied for it beyond not meeting the conditions for any other ending? idk. corliss has always wound up dead in my games & thats a very easy thing to do for the most part so im not really sure how to get here without pissing everyone off royally lmao, but it could be interesting to aim for & see what happens. willing to bet it might be one of the ends thats dependent on adeline being destroyed, unless thats just a scenario you avoid entirely if you encounter annabelle. which might be required here? since she’s present and ends up throwing herself out the goddamn window lmao. i think? seeing as corliss is being told to take her job? tbh i had no idea there would be any possibility of working with arundel and corliss at the same time. 

the ‘ending’ label here refers to the ‘we hope you enjoyed playing’ screen to my understanding, so thats genuinely just the end of that route here. i think. to get this result you probably have to investigate the tremere? thats really the only way i can see this being a natural result, although i didnt get the impression that was the route to take if you wanted to find arundel? i’m pretty sure adeline being involved is unavoidable, but i wonder if this is an ending you can only trigger if your version of chapter 7 is the second version with jordan. (its entirely possible im very confused gfhgjh) 

this isnt new i just think its kind of funny that qui is the Only One so far with a break up option lmao. and the scene itself is so sad too like gfhgjh why must we be given the opportunity to witness his suffering he sounds so dejected.

and i also dont think this is new i just never caught it before now since iirc qui diablerizing the lasombra was always a possibility. but he really does have some very unfortunate options available doesnt he ghghkj

half of this is just me guessing lmao this game has a Very Impressive number of routes and options and its difficult to reverse engineer some of these endings without actually playing through all of the options presented. unfortunately im Extremely Attached to my toreador and her choices/relationships at the moment so the odds of me doing that are admittedly not great, but seeing the raw code & potential options is something ive enjoyed doing since night road (& its also a much faster way of fact checking for fic lmaooo) 

[princessphilly]

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CW: Angst, angst, angst. 

Word count: 2916

Nina sighed as she snuggled her pillow. It sucked watching Sidney shake hands in the handshake line, the disappointing end to a good season. She sniffled as she watched Sidney stoically shake hands with the Flyers, disappointment and anger on his face.

This season, the Penguins had drawn the Islanders in the divisional semi-finals. After a hard-fought seven game series, the Pens had finally got past the Isles. However, the Flyers, surprisingly, made it past the Canes and the Battle of Pennsylvania was on. Unlike 2018, the Flyers won this time, in five games. Nina put her phone on vibrate, just in case Sidney called her.

However, Sidney didn’t call that night or for a fucking week. Nina was understanding at first but understanding turned into annoyance when pictures were posted of Sidney golfing with Kasperi, Brandon, and a couple of the single players. Nina just was glad she had the foresight to limit comments on her IG to approved commenters because she had no interest in people asking questions about him.

Scrolling her phone, Nina read a text from Marisa: has he called u yet?

No, Nina simply responded. She wasn’t going to call him first either. Let him have his bitch fit and golf. He didnt tell me he was going to go do that n im not his wife.

Nina’s phone rang and she answered. “Yes, Marisa?”

“Oh, Nina, he’s a douchebag. I can ask Kevin to slash him a couple of times next season,” Marisa commiserated.

Nina replied, “He hasn’t called me or texted me since that night. I haven’t tried to call him since Sunday because fuck that. I know he got his superstitions and everything but, no. Hell no.”

“I agree. Have you been out?”

Nina shook her head before saying, “I was finishing finals so I haven’t been out. Karesha told me we’re going out this coming Friday and, you know I don’t party like that but I will.”

“Give him something to miss,” Marisa advised.

Nina scoffed, “Something to miss? He’s lucky if I let him talk to me whenever he gets back.”

**

Sid groaned as he turned in his bed in Cole Harbour. He was so fucking pissed about the way the season ended; they finally got past the Isles only to get tripped up by fucking Giroux and his Flyers. Fucking Hart was a damn brick wall and fuck, Sidney could sense that his time in the game was coming to a swift close soon. For the past week and in a half, he had been in a funky snit, annoyed and needing to be away after golfing with the boys.

At the same time, he felt like shit. Sidney knew he shouldn’t have avoided Nina’s call; he was still raw from the loss and he didn’t want to expose Nina to that side. But, she hadn’t called or texted him since and Sidney didn’t know how to break the silence that he had created. Picking up his phone, Sidney blinked when he saw all of the messages on his lock screen. The team’s group chat had been busy last night.

Unlocking his phone, Sidney’s eyes bulged when he saw the messages. There were pictures of Nina out, with one of her friends, wearing a dress that was barely there. Her hair was falling straight over her shoulders but what really got Sidney’s attention was the fact that there were guys all around her. Then Nate sent a text; i guess ur single now. Told u not to go home without talking to her

“I’m a fuck up,” Sidney moaned.

“Yup, you are.”

Sidney blinked as he looked at his phone. He managed to call Tanger and Tanger didn’t look pleased.

“Sid, we’ve been friends for a long time but, I didn’t think you were this stupid,” Tanger scolded. “Really?”

“You know with the way the season ended,” Sidney began before Tanger cut him off.

“Nina knows that. She respects that. Nina’s not clingy or needy like some of the other girls. But, Cath told me you haven’t even called or texted her? Wow, Sid, wow.”

Sidney blushed as he listened to one of his closest friends berate him. Tanger was right. But how was he going to even apologize without looking like a bigger dummy?

“Well, you’re already acting like a dummy, Sid, so you might as well look like a bigger dummy,” Tanger snarked. “Nina isn’t like the other girls. She doesn’t need you.”

Sid gritted his teeth at that statement, especially since he knew that it was very true.

Sidney heard French yelling in the background before Tanger stated, “Cath thinks that despite being so good at hockey, you suck at being a person. And you made Nina cry when Cath last talked to her.”

Sidney wanted to slap himself. He made his pretty girl cry. “Fuck,” he yelled.

“Yeah, fuck. Fix it, Sid, instead of fucking yourself over forever.”

Sidney scrolled his phone after Tanger hung up on him. It looked like he was flying into Pittsburgh asap.

**

Nina sighed as she padded in her apartment. Last night was fun, going out with Karesha. They had just gone out to dinner, a jazz lounge, then ended the night at a rooftop bar. Nina knew people had been taking pictures of her all night and that people were wondering where Sidney was but that wasn’t her problem. There had been plenty of guys willing to take her home but Nina wasn’t interested in any of them either. She still wanted Sidney but fuck him too.

Her doorbell rang and Nina looked at the panel. It was Sidney with a pastry box and a wide grin on his face. Nina opened the door with a smile.

“Hi, pretty girl-”

Then she slammed it in his face, her grin growing wider as she loudly locked the door. Just like a man, coming back right when they realized she was getting attention from other men.

“Go away, Crosby, unless you want attention because you’re knocking on my door,” Nina yelled from the inside. Putting her earpods in, Nina cleaned her apartment for the umpteenth time, singing along.

Sidney gritted his teeth outside of Nina’s apartment. He was expecting her to let him in, yell at him, then he would charm his way back in. He didn’t expect to get the door slammed in his face and being told to leave. His desire not to gain extra attention was the only reason he left.

Nina sighed when she heard Sidney stomp away. Her anger was starting to change to sadness, again. She had hoped this would be different but Sidney was just like every other man; ain’t shit at the end of the day.

**

“Take him for all his cash, girl. Then tell him, maybe I'll take you back.”

Nina rolled her eyes as she listened to Jamila. “For someone so wealthy, you sure like to talk about taking men for their cash.”

“It’s like this; men figure out their self-worth by how big their dick is, how many women they fuck, and how much money they have. You don’t want to go to jail so you can’t cut his dick off. So, fleece him and then dump him for good,” Jamila advised.

Nina sighed and Jamila groaned. “Oh my God, please don’t tell me you miss this dumbass. Dude didn’t contact you after losing in their playoffs! He ignored your call! He only contacted you in person after you and ‘Resha went out! The dick can’t be that good!”

Nina sighed as she listened to Jamila. Over the past couple of days, there had been Edible Arrangement deliveries, lunch bought for the staff, cards proclaiming that he was dumb as hell and sorry for being an idiot. And Nina still didn’t respond. No calls, no texts, Nina was still upset and feeling raw.

“Jamila.. Glass houses remember?”

Jamila sighed over the phone. She didn’t really have that much space to talk but she persisted, “You let him off easy, he’s going to walk all over you forever. I know I’m a fuck up but I never let a man walk all over me. Don’t let Mayo Boy, no, he’s Miracle Whip because that shit is disgusting and he hurt you. Don’t let Miracle Whip think he can apologize a couple times and you’ll come running back.”

“I haven’t made any decisions yet. Plus, I’m going away with Desi, Sio, Lauren, and Kim to Phuket. You know, that trip you helped plan but you can’t go on now,” Nina said as she logged into her workstation. Work had become a refuge of sorts. Everyone was pretty much professional, no one brought up anyone’s personal life. It was all about work and the patients and it made Nina happy. “I gotta go, I have a patient at 8:30.”

“Bye girl, and remember what I said,” Jamila replied.

“Byeeee”

Nina hung up and pulled her earpods out of her ears. It was time to focus on another day of work. Before Nina realized it, it was lunch time. Rubbing her temples, she sighed as she thought about lunch. Grabbing her purse and her keys, Nina made her way out of her office. “Rita, I’m going to get lunch,” Nina called out to the receptionist.

However, as soon as she left, Nina saw the infamous Range Rover in the parking lot and she closed her eyes. She wasn’t in the mood and it looked like it was going to get embarrassing for Sidney.

Luckily, it wasn’t Sidney who came out but someone totally different. Nina let out a breath she was holding and walked to her car. Her vacation was coming up in three days and she would be away for two and a half weeks. Sidney would probably leave her alone once he realized she was out of the country. Nina was sure of it, he had to have been icing her out to dump her anyway for the offseason.

**

“Still no call?”

Sidney sighed as Geno plopped in the chair across from his. He had put on his best smile today for Nikita’s birthday but he was feeling the strain.

“None,” he finally replied. Sidney felt so tired and such a fool. The best thing in his life had slipped out of his fingers and it was all his fault.

Geno snickered as Anna strolled in, holding a box. “Zhenya,” she asked before rolling her eyes at Sidney.

“Da,” Geno replied.

Anna started speaking rapid fire Russian, too fast for Sidney to even attempt to keep up. Geno started to laugh when Anna pointed to Sidney before pointing to the box. Then Anna abruptly turned on her heel and left the room.

Confused, Sidney asked, “What was that?”

Anna hadn’t been talking to him and Sidney felt like he was part of the subject of that conversation. Geno chuckled before replying, “Anna said that it’s a shame Nina isn’t here but she made sure to at least have a gift sent for Nikita before going to Thailand.”

Geno didn’t add the rest, which was Anna saying Nina had better manners than his captain, to at least send a gift that she didn’t have to send, before disappearing. He wasn’t interested in kicking his captain when he was down.

Sidney winced. Part of him felt a bit happy that Nina was somewhere, having fun but it was without him so it was his fault.

“Oh, look at this, Nina’s riding elephant,” Geno crowed as he looked at instagram. Sidney looked at the picture. Nina was riding an elephant, making some kind of triangle symbol with her hands. Then he looked at the comments and the first one said: look at you, dropping baggage and having fun.

Geno snickered before saying, “Poor Sid.”

“Not supportive, Geno,” Sidney remarked, closing his eyes.

There was a pause before Geno replied, “Maybe donate money to things Nina likes. Maybe she’ll talk to you when she gets back.”

**

Sidney checked his phone for what seemed like the umpteenth time. “Cros, she’s not going to text you.”

Sidney rolled his eyes at Tazer’s annoyed tone. Webs, Pricey, and Tanger laughed at him. They were all in Toronto together for a team Canada thing but that was over and they were out for drinks.

“Heard you fucked up, badly,” Webs stated in a dry tone. “When in doubt, always apologize first and buy the woman her favorite thing second.”

“Nina’s not big on buying stuff,” Sidney absentmindedly replied. Getting Nina to splurge on herself was like going to the dentist. It wasn’t fun.

One thing Sidney did realize from off and on monitoring Nina's Instagram was that she was big on helping out at the Greater Pittsburgh Community Food Bank, she liked volunteering at the Humane Animal Rescue of Pittsburgh, and every year, she volunteered at a pop-up shop for girls who wanted to go to prom but couldn’t afford it.

Sidney wrote five figure checks to each organization, in Nina’s name, no strings attached. Sidney was serious about trying to get his pretty girl back and he knew that Nina was serious about volunteering and giving back. Now, he was just waiting to see Nina’s reaction. If Nina told him thanks but it was over, Sidney would be upset but he could accept it.

There were no texts that night but that morning, Sidney woke up to a text from Nina. It was a simple thank you but it meant more than anything to Sidney at that moment.

**

Nina sighed as she looked at the thank you cards that had been waiting for her when she returned home. This was so out of the ordinary, she had to text Sidney when she saw them. It was more meaningful than gifts.

The trip to Phuket had been amazing but there had been a tinge of sadness for Nina. She enjoyed riding the elephants, experiencing the beaches, going diving, everything. It was truly the vacation she had been waiting to have, after Covid and then switching jobs had pushed everything back. Despite her best efforts, Nina missed Sidney. She missed that dumbass hockey player, he had wormed into her heart that easily. She missed him and was still supremely angry at him. Nina felt like the biggest dumbass on earth. As she waited for him to show up at her place, she wanted to bang her head into the wall. I fucked up by dating him, Nina said to herself.

Her doorbell rung and Nina opened the door. It was Sidney, hands in his pockets, no gifts this time. He ached to bring her into his arms but Sidney wouldn’t touch Nina unless she gave him permission.

There was a stony silence after Sidney closed the door, neither willing to say the first word. Nina tried to summon some of the anger she had but all that was left was pain and sadness. Before she even realized, a couple tears had slipped. Sidney saw them and his composure completely crumbled. He did the one thing he swore he would never do; he made his pretty girl cry.

Nina hiccupped as Sidney pulled her into his arms. He just held her as she cried. “Fuck you, Sidney Crosby. I felt like you were icing me out before dumping me. Fuck you, you fucking jagoff.”

“I-I should have said something but I was so pissed and I didn’t want to lash out at you. Then it just snowballed,” Sidney said, heartbreaking as Nina sniffled.

“You’re such a fucking dumbass. I don’t even know why I’m even considering taking you back.”

Sidney said, “I just didn’t want to burden you with everything I go through at the end of the season, especially when it’s disappointing.”

“Fuck that, Sidney.” Nina glared up at him, the big dummy. “Communication, it means that if you say you’re in a relationship, you communicate. You should have even sent a text, ‘I’m pissed as fuck, going golfing with the boys, be back soon’ or even just periodically texted those stupid hi and good morning beautiful texts. How would you feel if I didn’t call or text you and went away?”

Sidney paused as he considered Nina’s point. He was unhappy he didn’t know that Nina had gone away without telling him but he couldn’t say anything now. “Your face says it all, Crosby,” Nina snarked.

“I’m sorry, Nina,” Sidney said, deep from his heart.

Nina sighed, she could tell he was truly sorry. “Those donations… they were a total surprise. They all needed the money and are dear to me. But the Pittsburgh Prom Dress giveaway, we always need more funds since it doesn’t get as many donations around the year. Your donation not only allowed us to provide more dresses this prom season, it also allowed us to expand our collection so that we could provide suits as well as dresses. Thank you, Sidney.”

“You’re welcome,” he sincerely replied.

Keeping her cheek on his chest, Nina said, “I’m dumb because I really am considering taking you back. But don’t ever do that again.”

Pulling away a bit, Nina looked deep into Sidney’s eyes. “I’m serious. I don’t think I’m clingy, I don’t require much, but don’t even do that again. I don’t need you to call me everyday but don’t ever ignore me like that again, Sidney.”

“I won’t, I swear,” Sidney promised, happy that his pretty girl was talking to him again.

[ziracona]

reading the chimeric horde cosmetics descriptions, i can’t help but imagine talbot wrote julie off as ‘incapable of communication’ , when in reality she was just super pissed (and in pain. and disoriented.) and Didnt Really Feel Like Answering. do u have any headcannons on how they function (or at least try to handle being That)

Sorry I’m answering this so late. There’s not a proper term for how much last week handed me not my ass but my biological system as a whole. 

This is a super interesting question though! 

I think it’s possible Julie, Joey, and/or Susie can still talk, although god knows how their biological body is comprised now and where vocal chords ended up--or even if Frank, who got least mutated, still has his. It’s interesting, initially when I saw this skin, it made me think I was wrong about my interpretation of Legion (which is that all four share a ‘body’, kind of. As in they have one form, but like a shape shifter can swap between any of their four. Although their consciousness goes with their own body--kind of like the initial release picture for Darkness Among Us implies, with the reflections? With all of them being present as individuals with autonomy /internally/, and able to communicate with each other even when they don’t have the body, but like, only one at a time being able to actually visibly exist and speak in a way someone in the room with them could hear), but looking at it again now, it actually reinforces it in my heart. Because of the way they’re melded together. It’s like a scientific conservation of mass law thing--their body is roughly the size it has always been as Frank. Whereas, if, say, four autonomous bodies were meshed together, you’d get a big flesh pile much larger. There’s just no other way, without actively destroying matter, for that combination to go, speaking to laws of basic physics. So how they look makes a lot more sense for them being basically forced to lose control of how they transform/being able to do it, and into a distorted form that is agonizing where parts of them all exist at once, but only one has control, and they can no longer shift. That actually makes the description of Joey trying to cut himself free make sense more to me too, and him losing control to Frank’s arm. Totally canon might go the other way, but I like that, and it’s what makes sense to me!

For my personal headcanons, I do have them! I think Frank can talk normally, although he’s in immense pain, so like, with that added difficulty, but his throat is fine. I think the other three can make sounds, but would struggle to form actual words. Probably could if they tried really hard, especially Julie, but it would probably be a really pitiful and broken, “..P..lea..se. ..H...el..p” or whimpering sounds or, “No,” “..S..top,” or “Frank,” that kind of stuff. I think All of them including Frank hate it and are in misery. Frank definitely ended up the dominant/in control of the four, but I don’t think he did it in a ‘fuck you I’m not losing’ way to the other four at all. The Legion care about each other, whatever their many other faults, and I’ve always HC’d Frank feels responsible for his group even when they’re pissing him off, and would not try to do anything to hurt them/works to protect them.

I think what Talbot did to them fucked them up and their powers up horrifically, and that they can still talk mentally to each other okay, but that they can’t at first. That a lot of wires got crossed and damage taken, and for a while, Frank just can’t hear them at all no matter how much he pleads or looks for them or tries to listen, and he’s terrified it’s always going to be that way. And then after a few days, Julie struggles her way into connecting to him mentally again and he’s so relieved he breaks down. Joey and Susie figure it out after a little too, Susie last, and pitifully brokenly. I think they all have intense PTSD from this and are both terrified and broken, and furious with Talbot and want to kill him, and before that, to force him to fix them. They cope with being in agony and their trauma by formulating a plan and promising each other they’ll find a way to undo this. Probably they call to the Entity for help too, but I don’t think it helps them. I HC that after making him a killer, the Entity sends other killers to Talbot for punishment sometimes, and that’s probably what happens to Legion. They have the belief it won’t leave them like this forever as a kind of light at the end of the tunnel, but they’re not planning on waiting either.

All of them are in incredible pain constantly, and miserable. Frank tries to keep them calm by convincing them of ways they can make Talbot fix them. It’s kind of the only thing getting them to be able to cope. They can’t stand to look at themselves, so after looking in a mirror once to try to understand the damage, Frank completely avoids looking at any reflective surface, and if he ever does on accident, it fucks him up. I mean, pain aside, the level of horrific bodyhorror all four of them have undergone is enough to put a crack in anyone’s brain, to say the least. I think Frank works really hard to support and comfort the other three constantly outside trials, since while he’s not remotely in a good place, he’s in a better one than they are, and feels responsible. The other three need and depend on that. Joey copes by completely believing Frank’s promises and trying to help, Susie tries to just shut down and go to sleep as much as she can and not be there, and Julie copes by dissociating as much as humanly possible from what happens. Frank I guess copes with the mom-friend/fuck we’re in a crisis I literally can’t fail override. But he’s not doing very well at all. 

When they’re in trials, Frank tries to play their appearance off as scary and threatening, and seem not remotely worried. This mostly works, because you know, the survivors are a bunch of traumatized and abused murder on repeat victims. But one time in a trial he’s chasing someone and knocks into them to throw them on the ground, and their medkit flies open, and he’s suddenly looking down on a reflective surface, seeing himself, grafted faces of his friends in agony trapped inside him on his chest, Julie’s hair hanging by his neck, his own eyes and mouth pouring orange puss. And he knows he has no idea how to fix it or if he ever will and just has something inside him snap and falls to his knees totally out of it for a second, finally overwhelmed by too much he’s been trying to carry alone. And it’s been long enough that Jeff’s figured out who the four of them are, and tried and failed to reach out to them before, but he sees that. Maybe he’s the person on the ground, maybe he’s coming to help them. But he sees it and instead of being smart and jumping Frank in the moment of opportunity, because he’s Jeff he tries to talk to him. And because he’s finally so broken he can’t take it and it’s the only person in the entirety of what he has left of a world that Frank trusts even the tiniest bit, he doesn’t stab him. He just breaks down.

[spacedlexi]

hey! what's ur opinion on season 2? i saw you stream some of it but not for long bc i forgot my twitch password. fav characters? fav ending? any way you wished the story played out instead?

ok im gonna answer this in like a bulleted way to avoid rambling too much (THIS DID GET LONG THO...). i answered some of this during my stream so i'll be repeating myself a little bit from there. i’ll put it under a read more for everyones sanity

general opinion:

- i dont think its great (or even all that good) but ive played/watched much worse so *shrug* it couldve been worse. playing it with a group makes it way more bearable and even funny aha so i definitely had more fun streaming it than i did playing it on my own

- wouldve been better JUST by handling clem as the player character differently. it wouldnt have solved All of its problems but it wouldve been less...annoying.... clem needed to have more agency. she was always being ordered around by dumb adults who didnt seem to care for her safety. the adults needed to take more initiative and clem (as the PC) couldve just defied orders/interjected into convos/done her own thing. this wouldve 1) given the player more agency 2) wouldve been a contrast to everyone relying on lee in s1 (couldve had everyone telling clem to stay out of the way since shes just a kid) and 3) made the adults of the group seem less...useless...since they instead are just constantly relying on an 11 year old to do everything. like do more stuff like the "clem locked in a shed and escapes into the house to steal supplies to patch herself up" thing. even tho it was ridiculous that they locked her in a shed it still gave her agency and was an opportunity to rebel and prove her resiliency/smarts/ability against the poor decisions made by the adults around her who think they know whats best

fave characters:

-none lol

- ok im joking but like only half joking. i liked sarita!! if i had to pick a non-clem character (and thats what youre asking) itd be sarita. she had a strong will/didnt take shit and was also very sweet (and cute i think shes cute hehe especially with her little nose stud)

- my dislike for most of the cast really derives from weak writing and ties back into all these adults constantly relying on an 11 year old to do everything for them

- alvin was ok and i warmed up to rebecca after she stopped being mean to clem for no reason. luke was....Fine after the first episode or 2 but gets way too much credit from people for some reason. sarah was also fine she mainly suffered from weak writing. jane was ok at first but she progressively pissed me off...

- ttg has a problem with giving determinate characters really...Any development at all which is a shame but is unfortunately a byproduct of having a budget and a deadline. if you dont know if a character will be around or not, its not wise to spend time/resources on them when it can go towards characters you know Will be around. they handle this better in s4 by saving determinate routes for the final ep. a bit underwhelming to save it for the end but at least they used it to focus on determinant endings instead in s4. its hard so i try to cut game studios a little slack with that stuff. but unfortunately it made nick and sarah pretty underwhelming characters who lacked really any arc or relevancy at all...

favorite ending:

- wellington ending i GUESS??? ive chosen all of them at least once (except for clem alone ending just because i dont want her to have to be on her own with a newborn baby at 11 years old). honestly the choice at the end of s2 is a little difficult for me to make but usually comes down to the fact that jane risked ajs life to prove a point we already knew. which was that kenny was a man on the edge holding on by the universes thinnest thread. i cant trust jane to put clem first and by her flashback scene in s3 i was right not to trust her lol. i do love that aj tattoo clem gets from the jane route tho...ive literally chosen that ending Just for the tattoo before lol

- also the wellington ending keeps clem from hugging or kissing gabe SHDSHHSJ so that really seals the deal for me lmaooooooo youre too good for him bby

play out differently?:

- honestly not..really?? but thats mainly because i dont think or care enough about s2 to think up whole other plotlines...

- someone in the stream chat mentioned that s2 went through rewrites after some scripts/episodes got leaked or something which ALWAYS IS A BAD DECISION and makes me so so disappointed and frustrated. it always negatively impacts a story to put it through rewrites just to counter "spoilers". so i definitely think s2 suffered from that decision. the question is just how much did they rewrite? was s2 always weak or did it mainly suffer due to unnecessary rewrites? what a shame.

- the kenny/luke showdown wouldve had more of a natural buildup than the kenny/jane showdown did. and the arvo stuff was soooooo duuuumbbb and annoying. someone in chat made the point that it wouldve been more interesting if the group that attacks them was the 400 days crew looking for revenge from howes and i definitely agree!! wouldve given that group more relevancy instead of just seeing them as like little easter eggs....

- sarah also had a lot of wasted potential. im assuming they were trying to make some "shes how clem would be if lee never taught her to defend herself" point but i dont agree with it?? because clem was already protecting herself in her treehouse with that hammer before lee even found her. they just didnt know how to handle a character with anxiety very well and it shows. at least they do a better job with brody in s4 (i love brody 💕). they also try to pull another weird character foil "this is how clem would be if she was brainwashed" with minnie in s4 but i dont agree with that one either (clem would be the sophie who dies fighting in that scenario lets be honest with ourselves clem could never be brainwashed shes too smart and strong willed "you gave up minerva. i never will")(they needed to stop with the character foils because they even tried to pull it with FUCKING C A R VE R “we’re not so different” sir im 11)

OK I THINK thats all i have to say. im sure i made other points throughout the stream but yeah these are the ones that stand out to me enough to talk about here

[piratemadi]

please make your critical post of supernatural those are literally the only posts about supernatural i care about, especially since i side eye the heck out of the many people who give supernatural a pass because they ship two boring white dudes (dean and castiel) PLEASE

omg ok nobody make fun of me for posting an earnest criticism of this show i enjoy critical analysis and being a hater

i think most of why this show sucks has already been covered pretty thoroughly but these r the main things abt it that piss ME off.

the racism runs so SO deep. supernatural is supposed to be an exploration of americana thru horror (and i’ll give them that. like the idea of deconstructing america and all its fallacies thru horror is genius and in competent hands it would be absolutely incredible. but anyway) but it only really scrapes the surface of what is inherently horrific about americana! something like that is supposed to be an INTERROGATION of monstrosity and how america (and western society more broadly) creates monsters out of human beings and how white christian morals are established as the ONLY acceptable morals and how anyone who falls outside of those norms (non christian, non white, lgbt, people with substance use disorders, prisoners, the poor, indigenous people/cultures etc) are monsterized, so to speak, because of an oppressive and unloving colonial society. like u cannot have a horror narrative abt monsters attacking family values and white suburban life without invoking some very old and racist conventions! but instead of subverting that supernatural just reinforces it! it consistently fails to make any kind of real statement because the most demonized parts of society are the people who are also treated the WORST in canon! native american beliefs are stolen and turned into stupid bogeymen without the show ever featuring a native character or seriously grappling with the inherent violence of america as a colonial state, black men are consistently portrayed as angry and evil while black women are treated like shit (dean’s happy ending at the end of s5 is with a white woman he fucked one time instead of with the black woman who he was in love with??), impoverished people are mostly ignored and when they’re not theyre monsters (theres one episode centered around a poor rural family that commits murder and cannibalism. no supernatural stuff or monsters. just poor people. thats the scare).

theres this consistent fixation on preserving american suburbia, on saving “normal” (read: white middle class) people and it sets up this dynamic of like. the “real world” is the white middle class and then there’s hunters including our mains who defend that “real world” against monsters and demons, which is just Everything Else. and the writers PRETEND to struggle w the question of monsters and what makes one but they just toss it around without ever actually committing to answering that question with compassion or narrative coherency. they have multiple episodes about characters who were raised human, who want to be human, but have to be killed because of an inherent evil nature. there’s a plot in the early seasons about how one of the main characters has demonic powers, and instead of saying that doesnt make him inherently bad and he’s allowed to fully access all parts of himself without being fundamentally evil, they consistently frame intrinsically neutral traits as inherently evil specifically because they go against a christian ideal of morality! and eventually he learns to suppress these powers and that’s that!

and then it establishes christianity as the guiding principle of america, not in a way of like “american culture and history is deeply steeped in white supremacist protestantism that has led to incredibly fucked up views on god and love and morality and thats what we have to deal with as people who live here”, but in a way of like “the christian god is real and he’s a white guy who fucking hates you.” which like. Ok. they bastardize and trivialize any religions that arent christian while building the entire series on christianity. Ok. like i guess its possible to write stories about white christianity without implying that every other religion is full of shit but supernatural did not do that on any level

its also just. really poorly written. i genuinely loved the first season i thought it was really well paced and that the characters were introduced really well like the first season is a GOOD horror story in terms of family as horror and the inherent terror of americana. but the pacing and the character development started tripping up in s2. by s3 they started raising the stakes Exponentially which honestly is such a kiss of death for good fiction like every season mounting a bigger badder antagonist than the last one is the surest way to kill a story bc it means the earlier entries in that story become basically meaningless in the face of the new bad guy. u dont need to raise the stakes to write a good story! a well written story abt the horror and drama of a close knit and unhealthy family caught up in something they don’t really understand isn’t Less emotionally resonant than, like, having to stop the world from ending, because at the end of the day its Fiction and none of it matters beyond what u can make the audience really Feel. im not gonna feel sorrow if 7 billion fake little people die. i didnt cry when the death star blew up whatever planet it blew up. what DOES make me feel sorrow is a few truly well written characters whose relationships are complicated and tragic and whose motivations i can understand and whose inner lives i can imagine. raising the stakes destroys a good story and thats exactly what happened to supernatural (not that the racism and misogyny and american protestant moralizing wasn’t killing it already)

also, the misogyny makes the female characters basically impossible to watch. like not a single person on that show is a good actor (except sterling k brown love u king u were the best actor that show ever saw) but they didnt even give any of the women anything to work with. its literally so cringey to watch any woman onscreen except maybe like. bela talbot and she was treated like utter shit.

god. you know that expression dont fall in love with potential? i dont do that w people i do it w fiction. i came off black sails and the untamed and frankenstein and i watched the first couple seasons of supernatural with my friend and it was like...there was so much room for it to SAY something about monsters and how society creates them thru violence and how deeply horrific american protestantism is. like theres so many questions and concepts that it brought up that it never actually SAID something about. shithole of wasted potential. and yeah dean and castiel is stupid there i said it

[johns-prince]

I think when Paul was young he lived in Paul world, if you were interesting to him you were in Paul's world and his whole focus was on you but if you didnt interest him you were invisible. In Paul's world everyone does what Paul wants cause that's the only way obviously and if you protested you were odd and confusing and might need to be ejected from Paul's world. It's not malicious just a bit i dont know childish? That might be the wrong word. PT 1/2

PT 2/2 Again this may be the wrong word but I think John was a bit childish in that he had black and white thinking. There was the people he loved who he absolutely adored and there was everyone else and fuck them. If you hurt him even accidentally then you were an utter awful bastard and he'd never forgive you. The people who were Good just got his full warmth and love and the people who were Bad got the complete force of his acid tongue and cruelty.

Alright, so, I’m not a Paul girl. I’ve talked about how he vexes me sometimes because I can’t really pin him down as I can John. So I’ll try my hardest to I guess, delve into what I think, in regards to him here, the best I can. 

Firstly I’ll say I know you’re not trying to come off insulting or anything towards Paul. I understand what you’re trying to say.

I don’t think it’s fair to claim that Paul only cared about those who technically did what he wanted them too. I mean we could argue that about anyone, anyone young especially-- I could easily argue that about John. We all would like people in our lives, in our realities, to do what we’d like and behave in an easy way to handle and understand. 

But as we grow older we come to terms with the fact that it can’t be done because the world isn’t fair and we can only control what we do and say, and who we might surround ourselves with. But people are going to be confusing and hurt us and be odd and not always meet our demands or expectations, and we’ll probably be the same to others. Just how it is. 

I think with John you’re quite right. I don’t think it was intentionally though, similar to Paul’s way of dealing with people who upset him. Or, even, people who didn't intrigue him, who couldn't keep his attention— wasn't intentionally malicious or anything, though yes, perhaps a bit childish, or simply unaware.

Like, the thing is, Paul wouldn't know if he hurt someone's feelings, because he was busy and if someone gave him a relatively straight answer, he'd take that. Wouldn't exactly read between the lines— he was always moving, y'know? Like, Paul hadn't exactly known John was upset that he hadn't invited John to help with Eleanor Rigby. Because when asked, John simply said it was fine— even if it wasn't to him.

My point is— if only people had told Paul that he had rubbed them the wrong way, or said or did something that hurt or upset them, at the time of it occurring, he would've probably try to rectify it, or clear it up.

If there was only communication, between all of them. Instead of years later, after John had passed, to be told by George, and even Ringo. How was he to really know?

But anyways... I mean if we’re talking in terms of how they expressed their hurt and anger, then perhaps I could agree overall. 

Paul can be just as biting and cruel as John could be, but his anger was simply much colder. He’d lock you out if you upset him or pissed him off. He’d cross his legs, pull up a newspaper, and basically ignore you. Or he’d walk out. It’s true that if Paul wants nothing to do with you he has no qualms in making that known. In a way I suppose that supports your claim that he basically “ejects” people from his world, or circle of friends and allies. You’ve just as much lost his good graces as you would with John. 

Thing is, Paul had just a bit more patience with people then John. He’s much more diplomatic, or at least that's what it seems since Paul wanted to be more involved in the bands business matters, and did seem to be a bit more on the PR side of things then the others (it was simply Paul trying to keep things smooth sailing, he didn't need chaos he needed control, not necessarily being actually a great PR man inherently) he's also much more sociable, being a bloody Gemini lol John, as surprising as this is to some people, was quite shy, bit introverted. So, Paul, despite being much more emotionally constipated than John, just knew how to deal with people, talk to them, y'know? I don't know if I'm making much sense.

Now, with John, John could bite, or at least could in a way that Paul couldn't. John could give someone a wallop if he wanted too, and if you weren’t careful, he would. I’ve read a quote somewhere that would agree if you hurt John or made him feel as if you betrayed him, immediately you’re seen as the enemy and thus blacklisted by him.  

So, I think you're right that, in a way, John's way of seeing things, at least in terms of who he wanted to interact with and have in his circle, was black and white. But that's because, unfortunately, John assumed the worst lol he had this belief that, in the end, people in his life would leave him, abandon him. An insecurity, clearly. So, he'd have the horrible habit of 'testing' people out every once and awhile, make sure they were still loyal, still loved him, and would then stick with him despite the occasional test, of John pushing them away, testing their patience and loyalty to him.

If anyone hurt him, you were lucky if that didn't lead to be completely tossed out of his personal circle— especially when with Yoko. She sort of caused that insecurity in John, or how he'd deal with it (black and white) to get worse. She encouraged John to stay away from people who supposedly hurt him (though not Klein, Spector, or magic Alex, no...) or upset him. Cut ties, leave them in the past, they're only going to drag you down.

The funny thing is, though, Paul apparently hurt John very deeply— whether it was intentional or not, that's what happened. I think John tried, earnestly, to let Paul go, to take Yoko's extremely black and white thinking in terms of "letting go of the past and those who hurt you even if it was unintentional they upset you so let them go" and try to run with it.

John simply couldn't. He couldn't let Paul go. At all. Even if, what we might theorize what had happened, why John felt and acted hurt by Paul, worse than how George felt— like a scorned, ex lover, an ex spouse who, despite all their bullshitting, their hypocrisy and spiteful behavior... Still loves their ex, still wants them.

The funny exception, or simply a telling exception.