#i got one of them into proseka. they're kohane

[haus-mom]

hi you reblogged one of our posts in like september talking about a wxs ego rock cover i just wanted to ask how it feels to be a prophet -mod tsukasa from prosekatextposting

i feel really honored that one of my fav proseka blogs decided to message me, first of all ;v;

i think i might've mentioned it before, but i have a very uncanny sixth sense for these things. people (@verypeanutalpaca mostly) have lost money over my scary future-seeing powers

i did not predict the most important part, though... that tsukasa wouldn't get a third fuck :(

if you do want to see more of my guesses, you can check them out here! i also have a cursed version with songs that have something very wrong with them. in what sense? that's for you to discover! ✨though they're mostly a wishlist... odore orchestra was going in but wxs already covered it! that's something else i guessed i... guess?

[chkn-kit]

11 songs I want in proseka + groups that would fit them

I see people make lists like this on YT all the time and I want in on this too LOL. It's gonna be in no particular order and also not per unit because some songs fit in with multiple groups. I tried adding in some more known songs and some more niche ones.

The assigned singers/units are all up for debate and some of them were done purely based off vibes and how much I like them. You might interpret them differently!

Balsam - Kurosawa Madoka

Unit: Leo/Need Singers: Saki & Rin

I think the song fits with some of L/N's more calm songs like from Y to Y. The song's themes are all about loneliness, which I think fits Saki. The issue is that Saki largely dislikes the feeling of being lonely and being left behind meaning that the song could be interpreted that she's singing this to herself whilst being in denial. Also, another issue is probably the instrumentation, since all of L/N's songs feature like... real instruments. So

Alternatively

Unit: Nightcord at 25:00 Singers: Mizuki & Mafuyu (+ Miku)

Mizuki tends to want to distance themselves from other people so the song fits in with their theme quite nicely. Though, I doubt they want to be alone either, the words in the song seem to align a lot more with what they tell themselves in private. The vibe of the song also works with N25's sound. Hello how are you? and Cutlery have a comparable sound so I think it works.

Also, Mafuyu going with slightly softer vocals and Mizuki with slightly stronger vocals could be nice. Most covers of this song are all on the softer side so I kind of wanna hear what it would sound like with a bit of contrast between two singers in a duet. Add in Miku if you want some more oooeeoo

Kuu ni naru - MIMI

Unit: MORE MORE JUMP! Singers: MMJ + Luka

Just a super cute feel good song that fits their vibe a lot! The song is all about getting over your anxieties and worries and being able to smile together and if that isn't an idol type song then I don't know anymore. I think Luka with some 'sweeter' sounding tuning would be really nice with this too!

Femme fatale - Kedarui

Unit: VIVID BAD SQUAD Singers: VBS + MEIKO

VBS has been getting some really hard hitting songs lately and I'm here to present you with another one I think can work well. The theme probably works with this unit as well since it's all about being lured into something that is wrong but feels so right-

I also really want to hear the chorus being sung by them. Kohane with her lower registry would sound phenomenal in this song and with me being a major Toya fan I just reallyneedtohearwhatthatwouldsoundlike

High-spec NEET - 40mP

Unit: Nightcord at 25:00 Singers: N25 + Len

The song might be a little bit too pop/rock-y for N25, but other than the instrumentation, I think the song works for them, especially in theme. Ena and especially Kanade would basically be NEETs if it weren't for the fact that they're high schoolers that still occasionally touch grass. I was originally gonna give it to only them, but the whole 'high-spec' part of the song where the MC is talking about being born perfect but being sick of everything despite that fits with Mafuyu, so I decided to give it to the entire unit.

Also the chorus has the potential to sound great with Len :D

Seraphim on the ring - Mitchie M

Unit: MORE MORE JUMP! Singers: MMJ + KAITO

I love Mitchie M songs for MMJ and I feel like it would be (for a lack of better words) very girlboss of them to sing a song about being prowrestling idols. It's super upbeat and fun, but the song might be a little too wacky for them so

Alternatively

Unit Wonderlands x Showtime Singers: WxS + Rin

If they add it in they have GOT to keep the adlibs in. I would do anything to hear Tsukasa shouting: 'BRAIN BUSTER BRAIN BUSTER BRAIN BUSTER-' in the song. The only reason why I didn't just give it to WxS is because the vibe of the song fits MMJ better if you get what I mean.

We are friends, aren't we? - Miyazawa Moyoyo

Unit: Leo/Need Singers: Ichika, Honami, Miku

The song is very pretty and the theme is giving major pre-main story L/N vibes. The instrumentation is a bit of an issue here as well though which I think is such a shame cause the song works perfectly with their story.

Alternatively

Unit: Nightcord at 25:00 Singers: Kanade, Mizuki/Mafuyu, Luka

The theme fits N25 as well and I think Kanade's soft vocals would sound really nice on this song as well. N25 has such a diverse sound that you can probably stick a lot of songs on their roster and it would be fine LOL

Henshoku - Kashii Moimi

Unit: VIVID BAD SQUAD Singers: Kohane, Toya, Luka (Vivids works as well but I'll explain below)

Is this song in here for any other reason than the fact that I like it a lot? I mean...

I gave the song to VBS cause the vibe of the song + the theme works with them the best. They've had songs that are musically similar (Garando) and thematically similar (PaⅢ.SENSATION and Ifuudoudou).

I gave the song to Kohane and Toya because I think this song could really highlight the tones of their voices. Also because most VBS or WxS covers only pair up the girls with each other and the boys with each other. From what I hear, people want to see more diversity in the cover pairings so why not have these two together?

A cover with the Vivids would also be nice. I'm not sure what a BAD DOGS cover would sound like, but y'know go crazy go wild-

Setsuna plus - mikitoP

Unit: MORE MORE JUMP! Singers: Haruka, Shizuku, MEIKO

Haruka and Shizuku sounded amazing on Shoujorei and I think they would sound great on this one too. MMJ can use more melancholic songs and this one would be a good pick in my opinion. It's honestly such a pretty song.

This could also work for N25 in terms of theme but I guess I just wanted ... more more more jump?

Super hero - Nem

Unit: Wonderlands x Showtime Singers: Tsukasa, Rui, Len or Tsukasa, Emu, Rin

They gotta have Tsukasa in this song at least. An eccentric and probably delusional MC singing about being a superhero? Yes please. I originally only would've put the Tsukasa, Rui, Len grouping but we have a lot of songs featuring those three already and I think Emu would work just as well in the song.

ERROR - niki

Unit: Leo/Need Singers: L/N + Len

It is a CRIME that this song isn't in the game yet. I think the song completely fits their vibe and they would probably kill it. Also, I know Shiho would sound amazing covering this song. I can feel it in my bones.

Nisemono Ningen 40-gou - ¿?

Unit: VIVID BAD SQUAD Singers: VBS + Miku

I'm such a sucker for all the grungy and almost angry songs VBS has been getting in the game. I feel like An would sound good in this and I'd love to actually see songs from this producer in the game cause they sound so goooddd.

I put the V-Flower version on this post but the self-cover is actually my favorite so you can also check that out if you haven't heard it before :)

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I've hit the limit for videos on a post so I'm calling it here. I have so many more songs I'd like to see in the game so I'll probably make a part two in the future. Literally nobody asked for this but I love talking about vocaloid music and you can't stop me LMAO

Also I originally made this list last year with short notes and all. They've added some of the songs I had on there like

I still think Rui should have been on there LOL

Also considering they just added a MARETU song in the game, I would like to add

and I think everyone agreed on:

but I understand that they don't do cross-unit stuff unless it's for an event.

Anyway, that's it for me. You can agree or disagree on some of the unit choices I made but at the very least I hope you found a new song to listen to <3

[project-sekai-facts]

thanks so much for the addition!! i hope you don't mind me adding your tags on ^^"

as someone who has played multiple other games in this sort of genre, prsk definitely is that game which has the most cnesorship by a mile. Like that parechu example from bandori honestly isn't that bad? I think the JP part for the second sentence is better, but EN made the I love you part honestly even more shippy than it was in the original text. And although I haven't played bandori for a long time now, I really don't recall them trying to work around every single usage of the word love or whatever like proseka does.

D4DJ doesn't really do it either, I can maybe think of a couple instances, but the fandom is very small so fan TLs and JP content is pretty hard to come by. Also it's literally like one or two poorly translated lines, you can very much still tell where there's romantic feelings written in because it's left in like 99% of the time. Maybe it's not the fairest comparison considering how explicitly queer D4DJ is, but still, proseka does have quite a bit of shiptease and sometimes outright subtext, and only occassionally does it actually make it to the EN server.

I have no clue why it's just proseka (i don't know enough about enstars to comment, i know there's issues with Arashi, but idk if there's any subtext between the boys that has been edited). Maybe they think it's too controversial or something? But come on, shipping is a big thing in idol game fan communities - worldwide - and especially the slash and femslash pairings are very popular and a big selling point. D4DJ literally got more popular after they added Hayate and Kokoa (who are canonically dating). Especially in online spaces (where y'know, the game gets free promotion via word of mouth) idol games are incredibly popular amongst queer people, a lot of people get into project sekai for things like that, and are incredibly unsubtle about it in twitter interactions, so it's... definitely a strange decision being made by staff.

Even weirder that An/Kohane content is rarely being altered (and maybe it's because some of their interactions can't be altered for various reasons, but also they're like, the only characters in the game to regularly get daisuki translated as i love you from what i remember). As a counter point to the an/kohane thing, me and some friends discussed that maybe they give them a pass because An is very affectionate and because of that then maybe it could be read in a platonic way when she says "i love you", but as a counter-counter point her relationship with kohane is outright described as them "seeing each other" in her Peak Excitement card story. It's... odd.

what's most surprising is that ensekai is definitely the highest budget out of the main idol games on the market rn. as far as i know, the en server is primarily operated by SoA, and I assume they're doing the translations because i don't think clpl has a branch for that and uh, why would they remove stuff they wrote in the first place? I dunno what sega's deal is either, considering some of their other franchises have queer characters. Obviously this game has a specific branch working on it, but you get my point - what the fuck sega?

i mean the en server is probably the most poorly managed of the bunch, which really. says something. censors aside, the translations can generally be pretty crappy. constant typos that never get fixed, even to the point of literally giving false information about a character and then contradicting that in the same sentence because they fucked half of it up. not to mention "that's showbiz baby" which you might remember if you've been here since launch, and also the fact the writers often struggle with rui's more poetic ways of speaking (good example here if you ignore the actual fact and just focus on the official vs fan TL). there was also the struggle with translating aibou in the earlier days too, which... might've been because they wanted to avoid the possible romantic connotations of the english word "partner". ensekai is just really poor for something presumably really high budget and something this popular.

i kinda steered away from my original point a bit there but ensekai just disappoints me a lot. there's always been censorship or otherwise "toning down" of queer subtext.

take this example from the mmj main story. admittedly "having feelings for someone" kinda makes this more shippy, but you'll never fucking guess what she says in the original text (suki. she says suki. "feelings" is a roundabout way of them saying "love"). like sure i could excuse the examples from the main story at the time because the translation was still Fine i guess, but it's at a point now where it's very obviously intentional. as you said, it's malicious, and it's erasure. sure the writing is ambiguous in the original version at times, but the fact that EN isn't even trying with the ambiguity and is just straight up getting rid of even vague things is, and i'm gonna fucking say it plainly, homophobia.

How are we feeling about ensekai’s emu3 translation!!! (I’m mad)

(if you remember the 3 whole posts i made when asahi got de-gayed on EN you'll know i am mad too and that this is probably going to get long)

i don't like to be too cynical but it was so obvious that they were going to change that line, i had a feeling since the event first released on JP and after the incident with Asahi where I went through and tracked down multiple other examples of EN removing queer subtext it became clear to me that in no way shape or form was "emu-chan really loves nene-chan" making it to EN without getting changed. what i didn't expect was them changing Nene's line after Luka's comment, which actually makes this whole situation far worse than many of their other instances of toning down queer subtext.

for anyone who isn't aware of what happened, in chapter 5 of the current Emu event, there's a scene where Nene, Rui and the Virtual Singers are talking about what would cheer Emu up. The vsingers all talk about how much Emu loves spending time with Nene, leading to the following exchange

If you look for them, any fan TL of this scene will be something similar to this:

Luka: ...Fufu. Emu-chan really loves Nene-chan, doesn't she? Nene: Th-that's nothing special...

EN's official translation is this:

So what's the issue? I'll start with Luka's part. In the original text, she uses the word daisuki, which can mean to "like a lot" or "love". It's a word you will see frequently in the idol/idol-adjacent genre of games, due to its ambiguity in that it can be read as either platonic or romantic when used towards a person, and often will be used in ambiguous situations so that it's harder to confirm the writers' intentions either way. so here, fans of the emu/nene ship could view the fact that emu loves spending her time with nene as more on the romantic side, but people who don't like the ship could view it as platonic and move on.

while they didn't translate daisuki directly, Luka's line still works, and still contains the ambiguity that works as ship tease in the original text. it's a perfectly fine localisation that still conveys the original intent. despite that, there is something to be said about EN's consistent refusal to translate daisuki as love in most instances when it's not used on An/Kohane (but then again, EN has literally teased An/Kohane on their twitter account so is it all that surprising?).

Here's some examples:

Aibou no koto ga daisuki de / he loves his partner -> he cares about his partner very much (The Power of Unity chapter 7 when Kaito is comparing Arata to Akito and Toya)

HARUKA-CHAN, DAISUKI DAYOOOO!!! / HARUKA-CHAN, I LOOOOOVEEE YOU!!! -> You're the best!!! (Dear Me, As I Was Back Then chapter 4 when minori is at an ASRUN concert. this one isn't actually that great of a localisation)

Honachan no koto daisuki dakara. Kore de iinda yo. / I love Honachan, so this is fine. -> I want what's best for her. And this is it. (Leo/need main story chapter 14 after Saki tells Honami she won't bother her anymore)

Minna daisuki de - taisetsuna tomodachi na no / I love them all - they're my dearest friends -> They're all amazing, and very dear to me. (Leo/need main story chapter 17. this isn't good either)

What's particularly amusing about that last one is that there's a second official translation for it that I assume was done by JP staff (since EN never promoted doing the Journey to Bloom subs like they did back when they provided subs for Petit SEKAI) that actually keeps the word daisuki as love.

Yeah. I love all my friends - and they mean the world to me.

It's a better localisation than the official EN team one.

Questionable localisation choices aside, Luka's line is fine and is actually in line with the original. The issue with this localisation very much lies with Nene's part, because that is an entirely new line.

In the original text, Nene's "that's just normal" or "that's nothing special" or however you choose to TL it, is meant to be her questioning Luka's statement, since all the things that the other vsingers said that Emu liked were pretty normal things like going shopping and playing video games with nene. To Nene, these things are normal activities for them to do together, so she gets embarrassed by the fact that Luka concludes from that information that Emu loves Nene. When I dissect it like that I think you can really tell what the writers were going for here lol.

"That's just us being friends" does still convey the idea that Nene thinks these activities aren't anything out of the ordinary and she isn't sure why the vsingers are picking these out as some of Emu's favorite things to do, but it's very different from the original line. "But those are just normal things we do together" is something I just came up with on the spot, but it's a lot closer to the original text and still conveys the same meaning. The fact they changed the line to "that's just us being friends" is, honestly, not even subtle that they're covering up queer subtext. The original scene was very clearly written in as ship tease, and EN mentioning "friends" for no reason, especially since the word nor anything close to it was not used in the original, is instantly a red flag because it's like the go-to for queerbaiting and censorship. This was intentional. There was no need for them to specify that the relationship is platonic, Luka's part is ambiguous for a reason so that fans can view it how they like.

Just to top all this off, here's Rin's original line just before that Luka+Nene interaction:

Oh, and! And! She said that playing games with Nene-chan is also super fun!

And here's Rin's line from the official EN translation:

That's not the same thing, but even more weirdly, the incorrect part (super fun->really loves) is a correct translation for the part changed in Luka's line. So, they can do it, they are willing to say "really loves", just not in the right places. Maybe because Rin's part is less personal than Luka's part? It's strange actually, this isn't the first time they've done this either. Off the top of my head I can think of an example from Shiho's Varied Kindness 2* story where they translated the word "suki" as really loves, despite that being much stronger than the original word used (and the fact that daisuki is used a lot in the Leo/need stories and it's incredibly rare if not entirely unknown for them to translate it correctly).

It's not subtle that they're trying to remove implications of the characters possibly being queer, they did it in curtain call and they did it in walk on and on, and multiple times before then too. And considering some of the content in this year's events and the amount of times they say daisuki alone, it's gonna keep happening. honestly i hate the fact that i keep trying to justify the translations in these posts. these translations are intentional. what happened in the curtain call translation back in october says enough. when a character who uses explicitly romantic language towards another guy passes as a straight character in the translation you know they're doing it on purpose.

oh and once again, it's only the EN server that has this issue. The scene in question was translated almost word-for-word on the TW and KR servers.

read fan translations. they're better than what EN gives us and people put a lot of effort into them.

[mymarifae]

Ok but here's a fun thing: which characters from ut/dt are most like characters from proseka? Papyrus and Tsukasa are the same to me

omg this is like the most fun question i have ever been asked. i love you

l/n

honami: i think honami and noelle are the same person basically. they are both so giving and so sweet and just... have similar speech habits and mannerisms tbh!?! and they both struggle with standing up for themselves, and they have a habit of just going along with something they don't want to do at all.

vbs

kohane: also noelle! i think kohane and honami's issues come together to like... perfectly encompass what noelle is going through. i will say noelle isn't nearly as shy as kohane is. which is why i ultimately think she's more like honami

toya: kris......... i think this one's self-explanatory. they both even have Issues with pianos what the hell

akito: i've thought about it. and my final statement is that susie is WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY more like akito than like. berdly, as an ask i got a while back suggested to me (though the similarities are still there). just like susie, akito has an INSANE amount of emotional intelligence for his age and he's freakin'!!!!! attentive. he Notices the smallest of things (ie: end of the current event in the english version of the game - when an is struggling with her feelings of sudden jealousy over kohane's singing abilities and the fear of being inadequate [i assume that's where this is about to go, anyway] akito notices!! like immediately!). neither of them mince words - taking more of a 'tough love' approach. you can SEE and FEEL how much they both love their friends, even if they both rely a little too much on their 'Tough Guy' personas.

wxs

tsukasa: you're right he and papyrus are literally the same person. and i love them both so much. they'd be best friends

emu: ...........temmie

rui: sans. bye.

nene: kris again. they are like the ultimate combination of nene and toya. autism machine

n25

kanade: if i say kris again will you be mad at me

mafuyu: if i say kris again will y

ena: mad mew mew actually. speaks for itself. probably

mmj

airi: also mad mew mew. my proof: trans girls, pink, catgirls, and both of them have some serious issues

shizuku: catty is like. louder. than shizuku so we're pushing it but i'm going to say catty anyway

vocaloids

luka: n25-luka reminds me of seam... like. a little mischievous, wise, there if you need them but won't over-involve themselves... etc.

len: VBS-len and lancer are like the same person to me and i can't explain. either you get it or you don't unfortunately

ralsei reminds me of the role all the vocaloids take in project sekai. y'know the whole like, being a reflection of a person's true feelings, the feelings they must confront if they're going to thrive and be happy. honestly i think there's a good chance that fulfilling the prophecy is secondary in ralsei's mind and he's more focused on trying to help namely kris and susie past their issues so they can face the rest of their lives. (and he's neglecting his own personal development because he believes he exists only for this purpose...) but there isn't any specific vocaloid in any of the sekais that he reminds me most of

i'm not sure if i'd say wxs-kaito and vbs-meiko are super similar to toriel, but they are both Mom so. idk. the three of them can be PTA moms together or something

[mymarifae]

oh god i think that blank anon ask might have been mine. i was trying to tell you about VBS archive on youtube, since you posted about your fav proseka songs! an+kohane covered night sky patrol of tomorrow, kohane+toya also did a really good junky nighttime orchestra cover and akitoya did dramaturgy :) we don’t talk about the akian GimmexGimme cover.

OH NO NO I GOT THAT ASK DW i have no idea what the blank one was about. i just didn't get a chance to listen to these covers!! but since tonight was new music night and you sent this new one in, i decided to take a looksie :) an and kohane did so good with night sky patrol of tomorrow... their voices complement each other so well. they're so perfect i adore them more than anything. i almost like this more than ichika's version (almost... i'm a little biased because l/n is like. My group. My Girls.)

junky nighttime is good too!! i've never heard toya so clearly before omg. scrunkly. dramaturgy too... good lord vbs is just really fucking good these kids rock. also i took a peek at the gimmexgimme cover and... good lord akito sounds like he does NOT want to be there 😭😭 an is putting her all into it and akito's like UGHHHHHHH I WANNA GO HOMEEEEEE