#i finished maybe a quarter of what i had planned. at absolute maximum.

[asairayn]

OKAY HERE'S THE ANALYSIS OF ORIGINAL ECLIPSE

I LOVE THIS. such good interpretations of every version of eclipse.

I do want to talk about the original Eclipse, though, because I have a lot of thoughts on him and his motivation and his issues- I might be a little bit biased towards him (I wrote over 20k words about him over about eight months and wasn't even CLOSE to done).

So! Trying to analyze Eclipse at the very start is kind of difficult because... so much has been retconned, or forgotten about, or turned out to be just Not True- remember when Eclipse said he caused July 16th? Hard to tell whether that was him lying or something that got retconned as soon as they realized they needed a second villain.

But! from the best I can gather, largely from much later episodes that talk about the beginning, the original Eclipse was actually very heavily motivated by feeling betrayed. He actually said it himself

The original Eclipse was Moon. He started out as Moon, he had all the same memories... and then he was abandoned. Fully. Before he even existed. And then he was left in Sun's head for... an indeterminably long time (has the timeline been cleared up yet? how goddamn long before the show starts did july 16th happen?? because he was conscious in Sun's head for long enough before that to create Bloodmoon.), where he was able to hear and maybe see what was going on around Sun... but not do anything. Solitary confinement will get to anyone!

(He actually talked about that as a betrayal and how much it Sucked to be stuck in Sun's head in this clip (well. the reincarnation did. but good fucking luck finding the original eclipse talking about feelings.))

So he was Moon, and then he came to consciousness stuck in Sun's head with Moon's memories still thinking he was Moon, and then was stuck there for... a long time. He created Bloodmoon fairly early... and then was immediately abandoned again. Somehow, in however long he spent in the void in Sun's head (I have a lot of thoughts on that void, but they're not technically canon), he managed to craft himself a new identity. Because he was Moon!

And then he watched Sun and Moon get to exist and have a life while he was stuck for a long time in what was essentially solitary confinement. He hated them- he hated them a lot. It's mentioned many times, especially in the first few episodes with teaps Sun and Moon (i'm at that point in trying to catch up, so. i don't know whatever's happened beyond that), that Eclipse fucking hated being stuck in Sun's head- he hated loss of control, he hated having to watch.

And it shows in what he was trying to do! He hated Moon for abandoning him, and he hated Sun for not letting him have control... so he tortured Moon and completely revoked all control from Sun. Technically his goal in that era is to get the star, to... erase the world and make it better, or something, but. To me, that doesn't show at all- he doesn't act like that's his goal, he mostly acts like that's a fun pastime while he tries to lock Sun and Moon away permanently.

That all doesn't work, evidently. Lunar betrays him, which everybody but him expected, and lets Moon help Sun figure out what the hell to do, and eventually Eclipse gets killed/expelled from Sun's head. Goodbye to the original Eclipse, sucks to suck loser, shouldn't have abused your brother.

But the original Eclipse, at his core, hated Moon for abandoning him but hated Sun for locking him away.

He was mostly motivated by hatred- he'd had a long time to stew in it. He had a lot of abandonment issues and a lot of spite.

Quite literally, at that time, the only way that he could have any kind of control was by shoving Sun into his own head... which made both Sun and Moon hate him more. There wasn't actually any way he could take control without pissing them off- excluding maybe communication, but it's Eclipse. and he'd have to be communicating with Moon (notoriously bad at communication). He also had zero communication skills- he was Moon and then spent a long time unable to talk to anyone.

BUT THE JULY 16TH THING THAT I MENTIONED EARLIER IS IMPORTANT. I forgot I was going to talk about that.

So! The biggest thing that made Sun and Moon hate Eclipse from the beginning was that he claimed he was the one who took over Sun's body and killed a bunch of children on July 16th. Well, technically, he may have just said that he caused it and let Sun and Moon come to their own conclusions about how- but in the beginning, he was definitely saying that he was the one who killed people on July 16th.

And... that was a lie. Or retconned. Hard to say. You could technically say that he did still cause July 16th by creating Bloodmoon, but that's still a different thing. He didn't take control and murder children with his own hands- he created a person who got bored and took control to murder children.

But that means that Sun and Moon originally hated him for something he didn't do. They had other reasons to dislike him, sure, and he certainly gave them more reasons, but. The original thing wasn't actually him.

That has very little actual bearing on anything. They don't bring that up- it's not a Thing. but. it means something to me, I suppose. When Eclipse first showed up, the only Bad Thing™ that he'd done directly was take control by force. He portrayed himself from the beginning as the Big Bad, but he hadn't really done anything yet. I'm sure at least part of that was because- at least from what I can tell- they didn't actually have any plans for Bloodmoon yet so at that point he was the July 16th killer, but retcons just mean more fun for me.

Eclipse intentionally showed himself as the Bad Guy. He hated Moon for abandoning him, hated Sun because he was stuck in his head, and everything he did for the first few months was just... based in the kill code. He basically just did violence, until he started fucking with Sun and Moon, at which point he was filled with so much spite he couldn't be convinced to do anything else- and they didn't try.

Eclipse threatened Sun- the only person who Moon cared about ("Hi, I'm Moondrop, I don't care about anybody aside from my brother."). No matter what, Moon was going to hate him from that point on. Eclipse started by doing the one thing that Moon would not tolerate.

And then Eclipse created Lunar, for... somewhat vague reasons. And was awful to him, somewhat unsurprisingly. And, because he was horrible to Lunar, he would NEVER be forgiven (Until he came back from the third time, and was enough of a new person for Earth- who also Wasn't There- to not care).

I'm... very clearly biased towards the original Eclipse. I hate him so much and I've written so much about him and everything I wrote keeps being proven correct EVERY SINGLE TIME THEY TALK ABOUT THE ORIGINAL ECLIPSE.

Um. I'll be honest I don't actually know where the fuck I was going with this and I maybe just wanted an excuse to scream about Eclipse. And accidentally wrote over a thousand words of it.

Is there a certain way you go about the characterizations of the different incarnations of Eclipse?

Their motivations!

So at his core, Eclipse is an angry, paranoid, spiteful, arrogant, lonely, possessive, socially-inept person who can't communicate to save his own life. No matter where in his life you're writing him from, these traits persist.

The differences come in what his goal is, and which of his core traits are being amplified because of it.

I've written the Original Eclipse the least, mostly because I actually got interested in the show following his death 8'D. This Eclipse is the most closed off of all of them, the least likely to change his mind, the angriest and most vindictive. He hasn't been betrayed yet, he hasn't really failed yet, so his arrogance is at an all time high.

On the flip side, after his defeat and expulsion from Sun's head, this is also the rawest point in Eclipse's life. There's a lot of good fics about scraping his broken ass out of the woods and patching him up, and for good reason. Strip his arrogance away with his loss, and he has nothing.

My favorite is the Backup Eclipse. Eclipse 2.0, my beloved! Still arrogant, still angry, but spite is his strongest trait. He was defeated and he knows it, and he's learned that he needs to be a bit smarter in manipulating those around him. By escalating the game to the next level when he amplified Moon's kill code (giving us the guy, Kill Code), Eclipse started a chain reaction that is STILL going on in current canon.

The Backup is my favorite because his characterization runs from one end of the spectrum to the other. He comes back as a bedraggled version of himself, forced to deal with basically being Bloodmoon's prisoner while also getting them to work for him. He manages to enact one victory after another, culminating in him actually gaining the star. He did it, he won!

And then he fucking crashes.

Possession and loneliness are his strongest traits in the second half of his arc, and he picks up depression as well. Spite has become bitterness. Eclipse was never supposed to win, and he knows it. The star was only ever a means to an end, a way to get Moon's attention. And when Moon resets himself... Eclipse doesn't know what to do. He attempts to respark that rivalry, but New Moon isn't interested.

With no goal to latch on to, Eclipse crumples under his own misery and lack of purpose. On his way to winning, he destroyed everything that made his life interesting.

And then he got space lasered.

And then finally Eclipse 3.0, the Recreated Eclipse. I don't make a distinction between who he was before Lunar blew up his body and after, though I know some folks do.

Eclipse 3.0 starts off with anger, of course, and a lot of confusion and desperation. For a good amount of time in there he was p much feral. This one is mired in self-pity, and lashes out because of it.

Because that's what makes this one really interesting. He's picking up from where the Backup left off-- he has no purpose. I think he sunk his claws into the goal of 'find my creator' just to HAVE a goal. He's also interacting regularly with other people for the first time in his life(s), even if he does spend a lot of time taunting Moon for stuff that neither of them were personally there for.

Two things, I think, really helped Eclipse start stabilizing. The first was, uh. Solar's death 8'D More specifically, it was Puppet giving him an impossible task to focus on, and Eclipse always needs a goal. The second was Earth started socializing him. Which I love-- hell, I wrote that myself back in Sunk Cost. Earth always had the advantage of not being personally victimized by Eclipse like her siblings were, which let her be more tolerant of him.

Eclipse in his current state is still arrogant and possessive, and his people skills still suck. He's 'better' as a kind of side effect to Puppet's request; bringing Solar back, doing this Super Important Thing That Even Moon Failed At? Was a major ego boost. Eclipse learned a very important lesson:

Doing good things gets you attention and praise.

Which is why I think he had such a rocky start with the new dimension Sun and Moon 8'D He was chasing the high of being the hero, at the cost of actually paying attention to what was going on. He knew how things were supposed to go, that made him The Smartest. He's a good guy for extremely selfish reasons XD

But he's also finally made it to where a lot of fanfic authors have gotten him. A little less lonely, a few wounds healed. He does have people he cares about, without any intent for manipulation involved.

So yeah. I guess in summary:

Original Eclipse (Upright): Vindictive, angry. Would bite your hand off rather than take it Original Eclipse (Reversed): Lost, bewildered. A feral animal, but one that can be tamed.

Backup Eclipse (Upright): Spiteful, serious. Lost the game once already, has no intention of losing again. Backup Eclipse (Reversed): Bitter, desolate. An Eclipse without a purpose, can be coaxed onto new paths. Still will probably bite you a few times first. Recreated Eclipse (Upright): Arrogant, possessive. The end goal of many a fanfic, actually able to get along as a functional member of society... mostly. Recreated Eclipse (Reversed): Feral, desperate. Clinging onto what fragments he has in a life he didn't ask for, and hating every second of it.

Idk if that was useful but there you go!!!

[upthenorthmountain]

Something Just Like This - Chapter 5

2617 words, which is unlike me, but here we go! Some more of this

Previous Chapters

Chapter Five

“I don’t know, Anna. Are you sure you’re ready for a new relationship?”

“It’s not a relationship! It’s, it’s a support group. He got divorced, earlier this year.”

“Have you slept with him?”

“No!”

Elsa said nothing. Anna hated that, how Elsa would let the silence sit until Anna tried to fill it. She hated more that she always would try and fill it.

“Look, I don’t know if it’ll go anywhere,” she said. “But he’s easy to talk to, and he likes me, and he’s a good kisser -” Oops.

“Anna! You said you hadn’t slept with him!”

“Oh, for - I know it’s not your area of expertise, but there is a world of difference between kissing someone occasionally and having actual sexual intercourse with them.” The fact that, if trees had the ability to magically turn into double beds behind locking doors, she absolutely would have slept with him, was an entirely different point. She didn't know if it was a good thing or a bad one that Arundel Print didn't hold their events at hotels like normal companies.

Another pause, but Anna held her tongue during this one, until her sister continued.

“I suppose. Are you sure you’ll be alright this weekend? I’ll come over if you need me.”

“No, it’s fine. I’ll be fine.”

“Sure?”

“Sure.”

-----

The Sunday morning of the team-building weekend wasn't nearly as bad as Anna feared when she woke up in her sleeping bag, hungover and blushing bright red at the memory of how Kristoff had kissed her (in public by the campfire, and in semi-private - well). But aside from a few odd comments, no one said very much. They really do think we’re already doing it, Anna realised.

No one was very chatty at breakfast, anyway, and cleaning up the campsite didn't take long. Kristoff himself was the same as always, a little subdued but then everyone was. When she saw him Anna tried not to remember the night before, the way he had pressed his body against hers; soon, she just thought, and that kept her warm all the drive home.

-----

Of course she didn’t want to be getting married today. He was a cheater and a liar and she was well rid of him, she knew that. But there was the little part of her brain that still lived in the fantasy, where Matt was a good man and they loved each other and right now she’d be having her hair done, and putting on her dress; right now she’d be walking down the aisle. Now he’d be making a speech, all about how lucky he was to have her. By now she’d be someone’s wife.

It was that late-afternoon slump, just gone 4pm, when it was too late to really go anywhere but too early to think about dinner. Anna lay on the sofa and stared at the ceiling. There was nothing she wanted to do but she didn’t want to stay here, either. Her whole body felt itchy. Why would today not just end.

The doorbell rang. Anna turned her head to it and, for the first time in her life, gave serious thought to not answering it. It rang again. Ugh, fine.

It was a florist. Anna walked back through to her living room with the bunch of flowers, fumbling for the card. She was sure they were from her sister until she read it - Just remember, someone in IT thinks you’re pretty.

Tears pricked her eyes. Sweet. He was so sweet. She found a vase in the kitchen and put the flowers in water. Could she call him? He was probably busy. But she should thank him. A text, then.

thank you for the flowers

they helped on a hard day x

you’re welcome, I’m glad you liked them

is it the kind of hard day where you want company

or to be left alone

I don’t know

yes maybe

yes to which part

company

come over in a bit? If you’re free

of course

well need to finish up some things here

seven ish? And we’ll do something to take your mind off it

OK

thanks x

-----

At quarter to seven Anna realised she was still in her pyjamas. At least she’d showered, but she hadn’t brushed her hair. What did seven-ish mean? A bit before or a bit after? She was still scrambling into jeans and a clean top when the doorbell rang. Quick drag of the brush through her hair, no time for make-up, oh well. This was her face and if he didn’t like it -

Kristoff was wearing a shirt, and his nice jacket, and proper shoes. He’d been planning to take her out somewhere, clearly. Why was she such a disaster? The nice man had sent her flowers and wanted to take her out for dinner and she’d barely bothered to get dressed.

“Hi,” she said, then “sorry.”

“Sorry for what?”

He followed her through to the living room.

“Sorry, I didn’t think you meant….I thought you meant we could hang out here.”

“We can do that.”

“I’m sorry, I’m just...not really with it today.”

“It’s fine, Anna.” He sat down on the sofa. “Have you eaten yet?”

“No.” She paused. “I had breakfast.”

“Not lunch?”

“No. I’m hungry.” She sat down next to him and took out her phone. “What do you want? Pizza, Indian - ooh, Chinese.”

“Chinese sounds good. How do you just skip lunch without noticing?”

Anna tapped on her phone and then handed it to him. “Choose what you want, my treat.”

“Are you sure?”

“Yes, away with your - chivalry. And I slept quite long. Just to pass the time. So maybe I had lunch but not breakfast rather than the other way round.”

She took her phone back from him and completed the order. “Thirty minutes and someone will bring me food. I love living in the future. Speaking of which,” she picked up the remote, “Netflix. I get to choose because I’m sad today.”

“I - do not know how to argue with that.”

“Good. Best thing about this flat,” Anna said, scrolling down the menu, “Is that it’s cabled so the broadband is excellent. Where I lived before it was rubbish. It’s pretty much the only thing I like about this place.”

“What’s wrong with your flat? It’s fine.”

Anna pulled a face.

“Well,” Kristoff continued, “Do you not like where it is? The location?”

“No, that’s okay.”

“Good, because that’s the only thing you can’t change.”

“It’s just all - beige.”

“You can change the colour of the walls, you know.”

“I know. I don’t know how.”

“Then pay someone else to do it. Or find a friend who does know how. Look -” He sat forward and looked round the room. “OK. Find a wallpaper you like - something colourful. Maybe flowers, yellow and green - do the wall behind the sofa. Pick a colour out from it, maybe yellow, and paint the other walls.”

“It’ll clash with the sofa. Which I did not choose, a friend was throwing it out.”

“You can get new covers for sofas, or just put something over it, a blanket or whatever. Get some cushions that go with the wallpaper. You know, things girls like.”

“Hmm.”

“What’s in all those boxes?”

“Books, mainly. Ornaments.”

“Couple of bookcases over there, then. Go to Ikea.”

“I can’t do flatpacks, it’s a disaster.”

“Jesus. Get some ready-made ones from somewhere else, then. Put some more pictures up.” He was looking round the room, and it was a moment before he glanced back at her and realised she was crying.

“Anna? Fuck.�� He put his arm round her and pulled her towards him. “I’m sorry, just tell me to shut up.”

“S’not that - you’re right - I just -”

With his free arm Kristoff reached the tissue box on the coffee table and handed it to her. Anna pulled out a handful and rubbed at her face. “It’s just - I have to do everything. I’ve never lived alone before. I’m in my mid-thirties and I’ve never lived alone before. There’s so much, so many things, and I can’t…”

He rubbed her arm. “It’ll get easier.”

“What if it doesn’t.”

“Anna…” He looked thoughtful for a moment. “I think in a year or two you’re going to look back and think, wow. I mean - not just the wedding thing. You moved to a new town, and a new job, you put basically the maximum amount of disruption into your life all at once. It’ll work out but of course this is super-stressful. You’re right in the middle of probably the most stressful period of your life.”

“My parents both died when I was seventeen.”

“Really? Fuck. Second-most, then. But still. It will get better. It will, you just need to keep going.”

Anna blew her nose, loudly. “It’s shit,” she said, with feeling.

“Yeah, I know. But it was always going to be. Also, I don’t think I’ve ever heard you swear before.”

“I save it for when I need it. And you’re the one who just got divorced.”

“Yeah, but I still have the same house, the same job, the same friends. And my family around. And we’d been separated for a while.”

Anna rested her cheek on his chest and he kissed the top of her head. “I’m going to end up decorating this living room, aren’t I,” Kristoff said. “I’ve had a sudden premonition.”

“That’s a very kind offer, thank you.”

“Oi. You’re going to help.”

“If you tell me what to do.”

“Of course.”

-----

The food was reasonable, and old sitcoms as reliable a source of mild entertainment as always. Normally this would be a perfectly fine way to spend an evening, especially with a nice warm man to snuggle up against. But Anna still felt out of sorts.

Well, she had an idea about how to cheer herself up. When the episode finished, she pulled Kristoff’s face round to hers and kissed him. When he started to turn back away she kissed him again, and tangled her fingers in his hair, and then he understood and pulled her into his arms.

He wasn't as forceful as the previous weekend, but that was okay. When Anna turned a little in her seat and lay back against the sofa cushions, it didn’t take much encouragement to pull him along with her, to settle his weight above her, warm and safe. Anna wiggled her legs round until she could hook a foot behind his knee.

This was nice, very nice. Anna kissed him and tried to remember if she’d made her bed (no), and if she had any condoms (yes, but she couldn’t remember which drawer in her bedroom they were in) and what underwear she was wearing (cotton with a print of dancing owls, better get that off as quickly as possible).

She moved her lips from his to kiss her way along his jaw and onto his neck; when she reached his ear she whispered “Shall we take this to the bedroom?” in the sexiest voice she could manage.

Kristoff pulled back a bit, breathing hard. He pushed himself up on his hands and she waited, thinking he was just catching his breath. Then he kissed her gently on the lips, just once, and said “I think - I don’t think I’m ready for that just yet.”

He sat up. Suddenly cold, Anna swung her legs round to sit next to him. “Oh,” she said, looking at her hands.

“It’s not you,” he said quickly. “You didn’t do anything wrong. I just -”

“It’s okay. I mean, of course it’s okay.” Anna swallowed hard. “You shouldn’t do anything you don’t want to.”

“Of course I want to.”

“They why -”

“It just - means more to me. It’s not, casual. For me.”

Anna nodded, sniffed, and scrubbed at her eyes with the palms of her hands.

“Hey,” Kristoff said. “Stop that. Don’t start crying again over some old fart who’s so boring he only has sex with people he’s in a serious relationship with.”

Anna sniffed. “What do you mean, again.”

“You were definitely crying earlier. When I suggested you decorate your living room.”

She laughed but it turned into a sob. “I’ll stop, I’m sorry…”

He put an arm round her shoulder. “Would you like me to stay tonight?” he said quietly.

“But you just said…”

“I mean, just stay. Sleep here. So you're not by yourself.”

“I don't have a spare bed. And I don’t think you’ll fit on the sofa. So we’d have to - share.”

“That's fine.”

“You're sure? I'd like you to stay. If you're sure.”

“I suggested it, remember?”

“Okay, then. Thank you.”

-----

Kristoff left to fetch his pyjamas and toothbrush (which had made Anna smile when he said it; like a sleepover. Which she supposed it was. Had half the reason she wanted to sleep with him been because she didn’t want to sleep alone tonight? Let’s not think about that too hard, Anna).

She brushed her own teeth, and put on clean pyjamas, and made her bed and tidied up her room a bit. What if he changed his mind once he got home? Then you’ll be fine. Go to sleep, tomorrow is another day. Another day on which she should have been flying to Mauritius. Ugh.

The door buzzed, and it was Kristoff, with a rucksack slung over his back.

“Let’s do this, then,” he said.

-----

“Goodnight,” Anna said, and turned out the light. She kept her back to him, then thought, was that rude? But they were just here to sleep. She half-turned; Kristoff was lying on his back, and he turned his face to her when she moved.

“This is a bit weird,” she said, feeling awkward. “I mean, isn’t it? I’ll try not to - molest you in my sleep, or anything.”

“Believe me,” he said. “It's quite possible to share a bed with someone night after night and never touch at all.”

He didn't sound bitter as he said it, just sad, and Anna thought about how lonely that must have been.

“I'm sorry,” she said, rolling onto her back next to him. “I'm so wrapped up in myself today.”

“I think you're allowed to be, today.”

“What was she like?”

Kristoff hesitated. Then he said, “I don't know, about five foot six? Dark hair, blue eyes.”

“You know that’s not what I meant. What happened? I mean, if you want to tell me,” she added hurriedly.

Kristoff was silent for a while, and Anna worried she’d over-stepped. Then he said, “Lots of things. Lots of little things. But the one big thing was that before we got married we both said we wanted to have children one day, one day soon, then afterwards she changed her mind.”

“Oh.”

“Well, it wasn’t as clear-cut as that - there was always some reason to wait. For her. And...I don’t know. We started arguing about it a lot. And there were other things, too, but maybe we could have got through them.”

Anna put out her hand and found his.

“Last year,” he continued, “It was bad. But I remember, one evening - we’d had dinner and we were clearing up, and it was - calm - but I just remember knowing, so clearly, that it was going to end. That it was inevitable. And it was really...” He ran his free hand over his face. “It was really fucking sad.”

“I’m sorry.”

He squeezed her hand. “And here we are,” he said. “I survived. So will you.”

“Just about. But what now?”

“Now you go to sleep.” He squeezed her hand again and let it go. “Goodnight.”

“Goodnight. And thank you.”

“You’re welcome. Go to sleep.”

[loss-dot-jpeg]

Delta Cruzer Miter Saw Tool Review

Hello: here's my review of my new Delta Cruiser 12 inch, dual bevel sliding miter saw. I picked it up today, November 22nd, 2017, the day before Thanksgiving at Menards for $ 4.99, and that does not appear to be any kind of a sale price. It'S a good price and they were the only ones that had it in stock. As far as I know, this is the only other saw to use the hinge system other than the Bosch Glide, and it has some other very interesting features too. Let'S take a look. The front lock knob, I really like it's a quarter turn only so you're not twisting and twisting to tighten simple fast. I like it. I also really like the rock-solid detents on the angle adjustment that just locks right in every time. 

There'S no slop, it's very solid and accurate. The handle is very simple. I like the fact that it's horizontal, not vertical and the switch doesn't have any lock out that you have to fumble with so left-handed right-handed, it's great. It'S right. There grab the trigger and it goes if you do absolutely have to lock out the trigger the trigger, has about a quarter inch, it's a little bigger than a quarter hole in it. You can put a quarter inch bolt in there, maybe even a padlock and lock it out. As far as the blade path insert goes, the gap is really wide and thin strips have caught off, tend to fall in there and kind of get stuck in there.

 I did end up making a zero clearance insert on Thanksgiving Day and found this old piece of hardwood it's 1364 thick. I found the hinge system on this best compound miter saw to be very rigid and I could get the blade to deflect from side to side. If I really pushed on it side to side plan on using the saws, it was intended and just pushing forward and backwards, and so I don't anticipate any problems with blade: deflections, okay, here's my first cut, there's also no LED no shadow line and no laser yeah. 14 and 3/8, the full cut is 13 and a half, but - and this is one of the reasons I'm very excited about this saw - is that these come off. 

Then you flip these little tabs and you put a piece of two by hon on the base, and now you have to completely cut through your sacrificial piece in order to get the full deal. Your sacrificial piece ends up in two pieces and what was the length of this cut 15 and 1/8 little overnight? 15 3/16. I was hoping it would do 18 inches. This is 18 and a half, let's see 17 and 1/8. Okay, so doing the little tip up trick gets us out to 18 and 1/8, so it does not completely cut this off at a 45. You do not get the finish of the cut at that, so the max it does it. 45 is 16 and a half 2 by 600 or 5 and a half inches high. 

If it's left in its default setup, you can't cut 2 by 6 because it hits right here, but this has a neat little setting right there that moves the blade locks, the blade just a little bit forward so that to buy lumber 6. Let'S see what is the max? Well, let me cut this 2 by 6 off first, I noticed the dust collection worked, a lot better, cutting lumber that way too. It really actually got most of that cedar dust, if not almost all of it, so it kind of depends on what you're cutting if it's cutting something laying flat and it's pretty bad, but if you're cutting to buy upright dust collection was much better. 

So I won't do I don't think it'll do this can't even get a 2x8 under the blade okay. So this is a piece of wood, it's one inch thick and it is six and three eighths tall that did that to the it it got pretty close. Actually, sixteen six and three eighths was actually pretty close to this to this opening. Here, that's that's awesome. You know, I said typically you're gon na cut that like this. Alright, let's try that let's try that at a forty five, let's try that the shield I got ta, I got ta move the shield with my thumb, it's getting to its maximum. 

Oh, let's go this way. Let'S go this way because what it's hitting me it's hitting the axle but bearing the bearing block. So let's go over here: let's go to 45. This way, 45 degrees. I got a rock that she'll back yes, so it does cut 45 that way. So this is the blade that it comes with Delta 60 tooth 12-inch. Basic blade does okay, so I put in a 96 tooth Irwin marbles. The blade change is a little clumsy. The wrench is right here you got ta loosen this. You got ta loosen this one up quite a ways you know you're, not just loosening it up. 

A couple turns this one. I just loosened up. You know not even one turn, but this one you've got to loosen up far enough to get past this, and then you can move that out of the way and get to it. So it's a little clumsy, but I suppose it's not really any different from any other saw. It'S got. It'S got a nice good safety guard on it. Okay, so I mentioned it was just a little bit out of square, so we're gon na square this up and what it looks like you do. Is you take these four screws out one two, three four: you leave this in a detent and then you, then you move the whole thing. So, let's see if I've got that figured out, let's give that a quarter turn give that a quarter turn about a quarter. 

Turn on that quarter. Turn on that see here. Does it slide yep? I saw it move jog this just a little. Actually, that might have been enough right. There took a little while, but I did get it to cut right on square, and hopefully you can see that, but that is that is right on okay, so any any blade deflection is gon na result in blade marks tooth marks tooth scratches. In this I mean this: this is really good there. I there really isn't any blade deflection issues there. By deflection, I mean from satin now. Why isn't that square? Don'T what okay? So I ran into a problem where, when I'm using this bed and I'm stepping up to get the deeper cut, it wasn't cutting square cut a cut square when it when I I'm cutting down here cuts square. But when I move up here it wasn't cutting square. 

So what I had to do was build this up with two thicknesses of Rockler Nilo tape to get that so that we are making a straight line all the way across. So that was how I fixed this cut surface for square. How deep is this saw realistically you're gon na have to do something with the vacuum hose. So you know, I suppose, yeah if you had the vacuum hose up above, it's 31 inches from the face of that handle to the back of this mounting clamp for the power cord, pretty impressive, good job Delta. Okay. So if you need to put this in an existing mitre station, the motor comes out at about two feet: high a little over the handle 27.

 Maybe this is like right at about 27 inches 20. Let'S see here, it's got. Some flanges sits it's under 26 wide. So there's no factory extensions well hold on a second. What'S this under here? Okay, let's look at: let's look at the underside of this once alright, whoever shows the underside of these tools so on the underside. We have nothing to hold that they have the shapes here. As if they were gon na put some bars that could come that way, but there isn't anything there's no mounting for that, but that's the underside of it. So this is the back of it does not come with any vacuum. 

Adapting connectors nothing. This holes was just one that I had okay, let's look at the hose diameter this hose. I think I've said it before it's just one that I had it's one in 3/8. This is, this is basically 1 and 3/8. That'S the inside, so the outside is 1 and 1/2, so it's about 1 and 1/2 inch outside 1 and 3/8 inside this 1 and 3/8 diameter hose fits nicely in there and that's probably where it'll stay. I don't know where I got this hose, so I can't tell you where to find that this saw weighs in right around 60 pounds. Am I happy with the saw? Yes definitely a keeper? I am. I am very very pleased with this saw good job Delta. That'S my review thanks for watching