(( [throws confetti] MORE LOGS! next up: feelings, with a side of more feelings and animal puns.
tagging: @sugary-empress @caepaecaesurae @hereticalsym69ls @roseredmutant @carnivalsorphans
context: feli is a little less angry bc lil sensed her anger and xanthe just Knows so they cuddled her until she Chilled, then this first message came in
begin log:
sugary-empress
I want to talk tomorrow, but I know you don't, so feel free to tell me to fuck off.
aberrantcadenza
If you're really fine with me being biased as fuck, sure. I'm stepping back for *your* sake, not mine.
sugary-empress
I mean, I guess that makes sense, considering that I'm the one hurt by this kinda stuff.
Don't get me wrong, you have a stake, but it isn't like mine.
Why are lowbloods allowed to react violently and horrifically because of their past but I'm not.
aberrantcadenza
... With that topic, yes, I feel okay talking.
Do you... want to talk now, or tomorrow?
sugary-empress
You seemed upset, I figured it could wait. On the other hand, that just spreads out being upset across multiple nights.
aberrantcadenza
I'll live. I always do. My anger issues don't go away, they just get set off by the smallest things, and then I need to rein them in. It's a constant battle and that won't change. Are you prepared to talk now, and do you want to?
sugary-empress
I'm always prepared for talking about this kinda shit
aberrantcadenza
:33 Well hey, I'm alright with it then. Uh... But first.
I'm sorry I kind of lashed out at you. I recognize that was wrong of me - I'm *hoping* you didn't feel it, but the intention was there, and it shouldn't have been. I'm working on not engaging when I know I'm emotionally compromised. I'll do better next time.
sugary-empress
I know this next part is gonna sound bitter and emotionally manipulative but it's totally sincere, I swear
I'm used to people wanting me to suffer in perpetuity for what I've done, I'm trying not to make it be a big deal
aberrantcadenza
I want to say I understand, but I know I don't - that's why we're here. So... I'll take it in stride. You have my word.
sugary-empress
Anyways.
What's up with reacting like that to a discussion about horrible things.
Like, you know what I was thinking about when I posted that, right
aberrantcadenza
I don't presume to know anything. I'm not privy to your thoughts.
sugary-empress
So you know nothing, but enough for you to believe your commentary was insightful and/or necessary.
It was about this troll who's been hurting Cae for something he did for an insignificant fraction of his existence and has regretted ever since, and it was about my matesprit's horrible timeline, where indigos horns are cut off and they're enslaved, and my alternate has been panwashed and enslaved and used as a false moirail for the person in charge.
It wasn't a slave being mean to me and hurting my delicate little feelings.
It was you people being hurt and ruining people's lives, forever
I do that too but everyone knows it's bad why is it even up for debate
aberrantcadenza
... Yeah.
sugary-empress
I'm sorry I know it's not you every time, it's Lil, or even Xanthe, but you're here and Lil blocked me
aberrantcadenza
Most of why I spoke wasn't even directed at you, which added to why I stopped and stepped back when I caught myself doing it. Should have done that sooner - will next time. It was more directed at Cae. If something is happening to him, no, I wasn't privy to it. All I know is his kismesis is a former slave and personally I find it kind of distressing that he joins a conversation enough to "show support" but not enough to actually make up his mind.
No, it's okay. I promise it's fine.
These are the kind of discussions I ought to be having if I'm in any way engaging in these topics.
Thank you, actually, for that.
sugary-empress
Cae is admittedly annoyingly good at playing both sides
But having an alternate universe pop up where the dude who's been hassling you had you branded is pretty unsettling
He doesn't have any solid social capital anymore, it's not like he's actually still a highblood in practice, he just acts douchey enough that he seems like it
aberrantcadenza
Yeah, I'll agree with that wholeheartedly.
sugary-empress
Idk I'm protective of him bc he's like the ideal end goal for me lmao
aberrantcadenza
:00
That... makes a lot of sense.
sugary-empress
Yeah?
I usually don't, so that's cool
aberrantcadenza
Pff. No, I think you make a lot more sense than people chalk you up to, often... I'm sorry about that.
sugary-empress
Mm. It's not a huge deal, all things considered
aberrantcadenza
It's really hard to get passed over and get people acting like you don't know what you're talking about, especially if they don't stop to explain or try to understand.
sugary-empress
I. Yeah
aberrantcadenza
... I'm one of those "I don't want people to suffer as I have" sort of trolls. So... if you ever want to talk to me, to clarify things like this, I'll try to listen. If it's a bad time I'll let you know.
sugary-empress
Me too.
Which I know seems questionable
But I feel like that too, I'm just bad at identifying suffering correctly.
Alphas have weird emotions.
aberrantcadenza
I'm trying to believe trolls can be good, despite everything, so I'm taking you at face value. Anyone can see you've made great strides, and I haven't even known you that long.
sugary-empress
Thanks, dear
*Felide
aberrantcadenza
:33 Thank you.
I don't mind the affectionate names so much now... If you want to use them, it's fine. Anything except "kitten."
sugary-empress
Oh, gross, I wouldn't call you that anyways
Reminds me too much of Dualscar and babe
aberrantcadenza
G od help us all.
sugary-empress
3XP
aberrantcadenza
X33 Thank you. Very much.
sugary-empress
I really appreciate you?
As a person and a concept and this conversation is good
aberrantcadenza
It is! And I'm really glad we had it. And that I was able to like, you know... chill the fuck out without actually hurting anyone.
The line between "righteous anger" and "harmful anger" is so thin and I step over it far too often.
sugary-empress
Don't we all
That's a natural trollish thing
But it's good that you know
aberrantcadenza
Even for you? :??
sugary-empress
Duh??? Especially for me???????
aberrantcadenza
:00 ! I didn't know that, catually.
sugary-empress
I've been t)(e one pus)(ing to fucking murder t)(e overseer
O)( )(ey, quirk's back, cool
aberrantcadenza
Idk, that seemed purrety righteous to me.
XPP
sugary-empress
But I'm not someone w)(o does somefin )(alfway
If I feel rig)(teous stuff you know I feel evil stuff
aberrantcadenza
"Go hard or go home": Extreme persian.
sugary-empress
I wanted to kill Lil for wanting me to abandon Xant)(e, and I got super close to t)(at
TRUUUUUU-E
aberrantcadenza
:?? Wait what?
sugary-empress
I'm sorry, not wanting me to abandon Xant)(e, just wanting to abandon Xant)(e, I can't type
aberrantcadenza
Yikes DD: !
sugary-empress
)(e decided )(e couldn't )(andle Xant)(e being )(urt and traumatized and so I s)(oal do it alone
Fortunately I eventually got )(im to talk to Xant)(e again but I was so fucking mad
aberrantcadenza
He said that??
sugary-empress
Yea)(, lmao
Sorry I forgot not ebberyone knows stuff aboat fins
aberrantcadenza
:(( Wow, that's... jeez. When was this? If I might ask.
sugary-empress
It was rig)(t after I rescued Xant)(e
Idk I guess I can get being overw)(elmed but it sucked at t)(e time since I'd like, never done anyfin good before and suddenly I )(ad an -Enormous Fin and I didn't even get kelp at first
I'm just w)(iny, I'm sorry
It's w)(at anyone woulda done, I don't get an award, )(a)(a
aberrantcadenza
:?? But you weren't saying anything about that.
This is... massive, yes. Very much.
And if it's something you hadn't any purrsonal experience with, that's even bigger. Like maybe... ten trolls stacked on end, maybe fifteen, if a normal purroblem like this is like... five.
That's a weird metafur.
sugary-empress
It's a great metap)(or and I glub it
aberrantcadenza
... I was really overwhelmed when I learned about it too. And scared. And I've *dealt* with things like this, this is... basically my life. And his, and all our family.
Many of my lovers too.
And seeing him like he was...
That's fucking scary. I don't blame you at all.
sugary-empress
)(ow long after did you even get to sea )(im
)(e wouldn't let me contact )(is family until )(e was a lot better
aberrantcadenza
I didn't meet him again until a couple purrigees ago. I only learned about it maybe... two weeks or so before we killed her.
sugary-empress
Yea)(
I usually see )(ow muc)( better )(e is from t)(e first nig)(t I saw t)(em, and I forget )(ow muc)( worse )(e still is compared to before...
I'm sorry t)(is )(arpooned
aberrantcadenza
It doesn't look like it could be helped. Trolls take and take and take... and it's inevitable, really, at the end of the night.
... But the thought is apurreciated.
I'm glad you were able to help him. I don't think he could have been in safpurr grabbers.
sugary-empress
38(
Cod, I'm sorry I'm saying feelings at you
Wtf w)(o aut)(orized t)(ose???
Illegal
aberrantcadenza
Feelings? Disgusting. Illegal, I agree.
XPP No, it's good, this is... really good. Thank you.
sugary-empress
You're welcome
It's fucking midday and I've got a morning meeting, not like, ungodly early morning, but still, I otter sleep
I'm glad we glubbed 38)
aberrantcadenza
Me too! :DD Good luck with your meetfin!
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