#i dont want to know whether the fandom actually looks into the things theyve decided to hate before deciding to hate them

[kaurwreck]

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fuck studio bones for not including chuuya’s “no witty commentary” line and dazai’s slow and almost mournful reply. dazai doesn’t jest about his victory or flaunt it in front of nikolai like he does with other villains. he lets him mourn.

dazai knows what it’s like to lose the only person that looked past your violent and cruel exterior and into your true essence. your heart. dazai knows what it’s like to lose the only person that ever understood you. and that’s why he digresses and tells chuuya to leave quietly by his side.

[if-the-crown-fits-translate-it]

Discord pt 103

[Date: 25/03, 12:17 AM GMT - 25/03, 3:41 AM GMT]  

[CW for drug mention, descriptions of violence, torture mention, suffocation mention]

[Page appears in chat and begins a game of “Smile Charades” by telling the server to draw their attention to their Spotify playlist called “The Court?”, which consists of the following songs: “Break My Mind” by Dagames, “I’m the Bad Guy” by Caleb Hyles, “Echo” by Crusher-P, “Break the Rules” by Charlie XCX, “Discord” by The Living Tombstone, “The Fine Print” by The Stupendium, “I Can’t Decide” by Scissor Sisters, “Wolf in Sheep’s Clothing” by Set it Off, “Entropy” by Awkward Marina, “Happy Pills” by Weathers, “The Pitiful Children” by Eric William Morris, and “Monster” by KIRA. The server then proceeds to guess what Page could be trying to imply by this choice of songs. The following conversation ensures:]

jayyyyyyyy: “oh, happy pills is such a good song! kinda makes me sad in a way tho, ykno? its so upbeat but its basically about taking drugs so youre not truly yourself, ykno?”

Page 👑: “....

:)”

Jack the Observer 👁: “:)”

jayyyyyyyy: “huh, kinda makes me wonder if those plants are the result of drugs? or maybe theyre not, i might be looking at this the wrong way,”

Page 👑: “....”

jayyyyyyyy: “ah, either way its fine! just me wondering out loud, ykno? :]”

Page 👑: “:)”

jayyyyyyyy: “wow, what a unique and interesting message! thank you for the playlist, page, its really eye opening and neat to listen to :]”

Page 👑: “:)”

jayyyyyyyy: “wow, what a fun song about partying and breaking the rules! ,i sure hope, none of ,the court does that!, :]”

Page 👑: “:)”

jayyyyyyyy: “ooo i cant decide is a good one, a classic, especially for those in uh. *looks at writing smudged on wrist* ...the my little pony fandom...”

Page 👑: “....”

jayyyyyyyy: “its so cool! love how the singer has conflicting feelings about their attachment to the one theyre torturing, how they ultimately have to decide whether they want to be good and spare their life, or if they want to continue with the torture”

Page 👑: “:)”

[After a few minutes, the server wonders why Page is being so quiet and only responding in “:)”]

jayyyyyyyy: “nono, its okay, its like a yes or no thing

quiet for no, a smile for yes

is that right, page?”

Page 👑: “:)”

jayyyyyyyy: “pog! alright”

jayyyyyyyy: “okay, so still gotta find what youre picking up from this

are you not a big fan of concerts either?”

Page 👑: “....”

jayyyyyyyy: “oh, you like em?”

Page 👑: “:)

....”

jayyyyyyyy: “okay, you do like concerts! something else too tho”

[After a few minutes of conversation among the server members asking Page whether he liked concerts, or if being with the Court was like being in a concert, or if he wanted to continue the conversation in the direction of the topic of concerts, or if he wanted to talk about other topics, all of which were met with a resounding silence from Page-]

[jayyyyyyyy: “music?”]

Page 👑: “:)”

donti (e) (child): “music! alright

want to narrow the topic some more, page?”

Page 👑: “:)”

donti (e) (child): “so im assuming this is about your playlist?”

Page 👑: “:)”

donti (e) (child): “do you want us to focus on... lyrics?”

Page 👑: “:)”

donti (e) (child): “so like the tone?”

jayyyyyyyy: “well i think we already get the vibe, ykno”

donti (e) (child): “or the feel of all the songs together?”

Page 👑: “:)....”

donti (e) (child): “is there a common thread were supposed to be seeing?

Page 👑: “:)

[After some deliberation, it turned out that the common thread wasn’t about the laurels or drugs, but was about specific songs.]

jayyyyyyyy: “alright! so youre focusing on uhhh

break my mind

im the bad guy

echo

discord 50/50

wolf in sheeps clothing

entropy 50/50

happy pills 50/50

and monster”

Page 👑: “:)”

[jayyyyyyyy: “does "im the bad guy" apply to crown here?”]

Page 👑: “:)....”

jayyyyyyyy: “aight

is crown one of the common demoninators here?”

Page 👑: “:)....”

jayyyyyyyy: “aight

uhhh

im the bad guy is about.. fuck, i half remember half dont

if i remember correctly, the villain is explaining that whatever evils theyve faced before, shes much more powerful than them, and doesnt need their assistance because shes fine on her own

but

im guessing page is more focusing on. Uh”

Page 👑: “:)”

jayyyyyyyy: “oh! okay

okay, i got it

hm.. echo is about.. well, its kinda hard to say

let me look at the lyrics again

actually, this song is a perfect way to sum up the courts situation

"the echo in the mirror"

like.. youre fighting yourself? youre trapped in yourself, fighting yourself to be free”

Page 👑: “:)”

jayyyyyyyy: “pog! alright

so uhh

so far we have uhh

being stuck and fighting yourself is something im seeing rn

and the other one.. i think its better if i dont say it

am i right on the fighting yourself theme tho?”

Page 👑: “:)”

Ethza: “someone that's not crown??

"someone else"”

Page 👑: “:)”

Ethza: “OKAY

didnt expect that

so who

not crown

themselves?”

Page 👑: “:).....”

Ethza: “hm

eachother?”

donti (e) (child): “are,,, are the people who wear the crowns... pulling at the strings of their body??”

Page 👑: “....”

Ethza: “Hm”

jayyyyyyyy: “okay so

im assuming its crown and the court?”

Ethza: “but its not crown

its someone else”

Page 👑: “:)”

jayyyyyyyy: “hmm”

Ethza: “that was my first guess

so

someone else”

jayyyyyyyy: “okay! okay

and probably obvious but youre being controlled by your court version?”

Ethza: “but something else is controlling you”

Page 👑: “:)”

Ethza: “is it your court self?

the laurels?

something else?

feel free to respond to those separately”

jayyyyyyyy: “what, pray tell, the fuck are the laurels”

Page 👑: “:)”

[Ethza: “the laurels?”]

Page 👑: “....”

[Ethza: “something else?”]

Page 👑: “....:)”

jayyyyyyyy: “alright

hmmmm okay so

court selves are controlling the og selves, and crown is manipulating the court”

Ethza: “the court selves....aren't what they seem?”

Page 👑: “:)”

Ethza: “i was really hoping that wouldn't be right”

jayyyyyyyy: “well i dont think the court selves are evil”

Ethza: “i don't know if we'd call them good”

jayyyyyyyy: “theyre being manipulated, ykno? and theyre.. kinda stuck in an unwinable situation

well yea but like

either they let their alternate selves be free and they literally suffocate, or they let themselves be free and their alternate selves suffocate

and a while, youd want fresh air, no matter how good of a person you are”

[Ethza: “i don't know if we'd call them good”]

Page 👑: “:)”

jayyyyyyyy: “alright so theyre not good

obv im still suspicious that a lot of it is bc of circumstances but still evil”

Ethza: “...hey page”

Page 👑: “:)”

Ethza: “are they something we know?”

Page 👑: “....:)”

jayyyyyyyy: “i really cant think of anything else tho

dreamons maybe?”

Page 👑: “:)

:)

:)

:)

:)

:)”

jayyyyyyyy: “uhhh

OH SHIT”

Page 👑: “:)”

jayyyyyyyy: “OH FUCK

OH FUCK

OH FUCK ITS DREAMONS”

Page 👑: “:)

:)

:)

:)”

donti (e) (child): “is that a smile or a yes ??”

Page 👑: “:)

:)

:)”

jayyyyyyyy: “ITS A YES

OH MY GOD ITS DREAMONS OH FUCK”

donti (e) (child): “UH!!”

jayyyyyyyy: “OKAY

FUCK

okay

ok im. calming down”

Knight 👑: “Fetch likes this song :)” 

[DAYWALKER! by Machine Gun Kelly ft. Corpse] 

Knight 👑: “It should be obvious as to why :)”

jayyyyyyyy: “WAIT NO BUT I HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS

okay page!!

is that "thing" thats more powerful than crown the dreamons?”

Knight 👑: “Page is not in service at this time. Please check the number or try your call again. :)”

jayyyyyyyy: “oh fuck off

GOD

you mother FUCKERS

donti (e) (child): “AH IS PAGE OK”

Knight 👑: “:)”

donti (e) (child): “uhhhhhh buddy you ok”

Knight (he/they): “I see somebody talking with a mouth thats full of teeth i want to break :)”

jayyyyyyyy: “thats dumb as FUCK”

donti (e) (child): “well thats probably me time to scram :D”

jayyyyyyyy: “page did not say a single thing this entire time”

Knight 👑: “Then i'm not talking about him. :)”

jayyyyyyyy: “..neither did max”

Knight 👑: “I'm on borrowed time can't shake it :) blackout when i'm ragin'. :)”

jayyyyyyyy: “yea

again with that fuckin corpse song

hold on

huh

okay so im assuming this is just. 100% knight rn

bc you definitely did something to page

and the song daywalker is ab letting someone in on a secret and blaming them when the secret gets out

actually this song. lines up with uh

that scene”

Knight 👑: “:)”

jayyyyyyyy: “the. ykno, the murder

unless im wrong but

seems. violent”

Knight 👑: “I prayed to god and went to sleep with bloody hands :)”

jayyyyyyyy: “damn! okay

uhhh fuck

okay knight can you like. post all the lyrics youre focusing on rn?? tryna get across???”

Knight 👑: “Punch that motherfucker in the face 

you hated what he said, right? 

beat his ass, leave him at the stoplight

i know you wanted change, but nobody's around

so, kick him again while he's on the ground”

jayyyyyyyy: “thank you!”

Big G (they/them): “Uhh”

jayyyyyyyy: “....oh god i just said thank you im going SOFT

"i know you wanted change but nobodys around" is really catching my eye

"you hated what he said right" hmm”

Knight 👑: “If a pussy wanna say shit, then i'll fuckin' stomp his face in

nah, not getting better, can't change it, i left blood all on the pavement 

i'm on borrowed time, can't shake it, blackout when i'm ragin',

me and all these pills be on a fuckin' first name basis,”

jayyyyyyyy: “im kinda throwing a shot here, but is the "you hated what he said right" part about the dreamons hating what i said?”

Knight 👑: “I never said it was about page :) in fact, i told you i wasn't talking about him :)”

[vacuousauto]

📃🎥🏳‍🌈

tysm for tha ask molli!! ill talk abt kny here bc its takin over my life rn qwq

spoilers ahead 4 tha whole series!!

📃 what is the plot of your hyperfixation? and is it a movie, game, show, etc?

kny is a manga w an anime adaptation thats had 1 season so far n a movies bein made of my fav arc!! (also this plot desc may not b perfect bc i havent read it in like 4 months)

its abt a boy called tanjirou whos whole family got killed by a demon, n his sister nezuko got turned into a demon (which fun fact: in kimetsu theyre man-eatin creatures w different powers called blood demon arts!!)

hes sent by giyuu (a demon slayer!) 2 join tha demon slayer corps so hell become stronger n mayb get a little revenge. as a treat (and also mayb find a way 2 turn nezuko human?)

as he trains he learns how 2 do water breathing (a sword technique taught by him n giyuus mentor, urokodaki) n his final challenge is 2 cut a massive boulder in half w his sword

its real hard 4 him (as u can imagine) so 2 kids in fox masks named sabito n makomo come n help him, but after tanjirou cuts tha rock n tells urokodaki abt him its revealed theyre dead???

@ final selection (basically a demon slayer entrance exam where u win by surviving on a demon-infested mountain 4 seven days) he learns from a real fucked up demon that hes exclusively been targetin urokodakis students n that not even sabito could slice its neck open?? (thats how him n makomo died)

after tanjirou kills tha demon n basically puts all tha water breath students’ souls @ peace he passes tha exam!! its been 7 days n now he gets his nichirin blade (the only kinda sword that can kill a demon, tha only 2 ways they can die is thru a slice 2 tha neck from a nichirin blade n sunlight)

turns out nezuko was turned by the strongest demon of all, michael jackson muzan kibutsuji, n so he sets out 2 hunt him down n try 2 kill him

but he aint so strong @ first so he needs 2 try 2 take down tha twelve kizuki first (the 12 strongest demons besides muzan)

another reason he needs 2 kill tha kizuki is 2 gather their blood for a demon named tamayo n her assistant yushirou!! tamayo can make a cure if tanjirou can gather blood samples 4 her (the stronger tha demon tha more of muzans blood they have so hes gonna have 2 aim high)

he meets a bunch more slayers along tha way, includin zenitsu (a scaredy cat thunder breath user who basically simps 4 nezuko n becomes a badass when hes asleep) n inosuke (a rowdy beast breath user who wears a boar mask n lived in tha mountains)

after lower moon 5 gets killed by giyuu, nezuko unlocks her blood demon art (exploding blood!) n tanjirou remembers how 2 use tha hinokami kagura, him n nezuko get captured by a slayer called shinobu qwq

turns out she n giyuu are 2 of the nine hashira, the strongest of all tha demon slayers!! but theyre all havin a debate over whether they should kill tanjirou n nezuko 4 goin against corps rules n travelin w a demon

eventually oyakata-sama (tha leader of tha slayer corps) comes in n tells em its ok, urokodaki sent a letter explainin that nezukos never hurt anyone n if she does, tanjirou giyuu n urokodaki all have 2 die basically

oyakata-sama also tells em that tanjirous met kibutsuji, at which everyone goes feral at (and understandably, none of em had ever even seen him before hes that elusive)

so they get 2 live bc theyre like. tha best hope the slayers have @ findin kibutsuji

the rest of the hashira are kyoujurou (flame), muichirou (mist), mitsuri (love), obanai (serpent), gyoumei (stone), tengen (sound) n sanemi (wind)

theres also kanao (shinobus pupil, flower breathing) n genya (sanemis brother, eats demons 2 gain power n basically become a demon temporarily, also He Has A Gun)

ive gone on a lot here so ill try 2 keep it brief now but i HAVE 2 explain infinity train or ill die (slight suicide tw but no one actually does that outside of dreams)

BASICALLY the lower 6 moons have a meetin @ kibutsujis infinity castle, muzan decides 2 dismantle tha lower moons bc they keep fuckign dying

all of em get their shit wrecked except enmu, who avoided death by usin muzans “dont tell me what 2 do” rule against him n beggin 4 death basically

so he gets a metric fuckton o blood n goes off 2 kill tanjirou

turns out he keeps killin people on his train n kyos gone 2 investigate!! the main gang (the kamaboko gang as the fandom calls it) are there too bc tanjirou needs 2 investigate what hinokami kagura really is (turns out its sun breathing, the og form and ones that only folks w the same mark on his forehead can use) n if anyone knows abt the alleged “fire breathing” as they know it rn its the fire hashira!!

so they get on tha train (inosukes lovin tha experience bc hes Literally Never Seen A Train Before) n kyo basically adopts the whole group

they take some tickets n promptly fall asleep HERES WHERE ENMUS DEMON ART COMES INTO PLAY!!! DREAM MANIPULATION BABEYYY

BASICALLY he can make people fall asleep in a buncha ways (the mouths on his hands, his weird eye thingies, the tickets) n once thats happened he n his henchmen can access said dreams (he can even control em!!) n if they find tha “spiritual core” they can destroy it n essentially leave em as an empty shell thatll never wake up!! yaaaaaay /s

he fails bc tanjirou realises a way out n its by cuttin his own head off in his dream, eventually everyones awake again n tanjirou finds enmu on tha roof(?) of tha train

after a while he does manage 2 decapitate him but surprise!!! hes not dead

turns out he literally FUSED WITH THA TRAIN n is plannin on eatin everyone inside, includin kyo n the gang

but he doesnt bc Main Protags Cant Die(tm) n dies while complainin that he wants a redo (sorry enmu, ily but u cant turn back time unless ur yoshikage kira)

also sidenote enmus tha only kizuki w/o a canon backstory as far as i can remember and????? H??

ANYWHO after that whole debacle basketball akaza (UPPER moon 3) shows himself!!! FUCK

n after all that struggle against the 8th strongest demon of all time now they gotta deal w tha 4th strongest????? damn,

so yeah it goes how youd imagine, its a tough fuckin battle n its Not Fun but it turns out kyoujurou fucking dies n i genuinely didnt realise until he said “kamado my boy, lets have one final chat” bc i was so in denial n lets face it i still am now

long story short idk how im gonna manage 2 get thru the movie w/o breakin down @ the end

anyway after that horrible horrible time tanjirou goes n meets senjurou, kyos little bro, who gives him kyos sword guard thing (its shaped like a flame!!) n i havent read it in a while so i cant FULLY remember but i think this is where he learns abt sun breathing??

after that they end up goin on a mission in tha red light district w tengen, his 3 wives are there 2 serve as spies (theyre kunoichi, which i think are ninjas of some kind??) n the boys have 2 find em

they do manage 2 find em but not after runnin into upper moon 6, who are 2 twins called daki n gyuutarou

after that fight tengen has 2 retire bc he got fucked up p bad from that fight n he wants 2 make sure tha girls are ok above all

so after that arc tanjirou n nezuko go down 2 tha swordsmith village (bc the guy who usually makes his swords is fuckin tired of repairin it) n run into mitsuri!! she tells tan that theres smth in tha forest thatll make him stronger

ngl this is tha arc i remember tha least abt so this desc is prolly SO inaccurate despite havin 2 o my favs in it)

but muichirou shows himself too n hes mean 2 tanjirou >:/ (he does get nicer eventually but 2 him specifically)

a 10 y/o kid named kotetsu shows tan this 6 armed trainin robot called yoriichi type 0 (based on tha first slayer 2 use sun breathin) n tanjirou breaks it by accident qwq

but he keeps trainin thanks 2 kotetsu but tha kids a harsh fuckin trainer ill tell u that

anyway so we have a whole buncha demons 2 deal w here except most of em are 1 demon split into different parts

hantengu n gyokko, upper moons 4 n 5 respectively!! mui deals w gyokko while mitsuri genya nezuko n tanjirou deal w hantengu

in these fights mitsuri n mui get their demon slayer marks!! these are marks that they get when they surpass the limits of tha human body n they look like tha marks demons have (muis looks like clouds on his cheeks n mitsuris is 2 hearts on her collarbone)

next up is tha hashira trainin arc!! everyone gets trained by each of tha hashira 2 try n unlock their slayer marks

each have a dif trainin style that focuses on dif stuff (for example gyoumei focuses a lot on physical strength n stuff like that, obanai is more abt accuracy) n this is where giyuus backstory gets revealed bc he doesnt think hes worthy o bein a hashira :((

basically him n sabito were absolute besties!! they both trained together n sabito basically told him not 2 die ever

but it all goes wrong @ final selection- sabito manages 2 take down every demon on tha mountain but one of em, that bein the hand demon that exclusively targets water breathers (theyre easy 2 distinguish bc of their blue haoris n custom made fox masks)

he manages 2 save giyuu n everyone else from tha selection except 4 himself (this is why giyuus haori is like that- its made from his sister n sabitos haoris)

giyuu blames himself 4 both of their deaths bc he failed 2 protect em n says that he doesnt deserve 2 have passed tha selection let alone b a hashira,, but tanjirou convinces him otherwise!! ^^

then one day while giyuus trainin w sanemi disaster hits- oyakata-sama, his wife n two of their kids just died

the 2nd to last arc- the infinity castle!! thingsre gettin real n muzans revealed himself

in tha infinity castle EVERYONES there but can u really blame em theyve been workin up 2 this 4 millenia

shinobu runs into upper moon 2- douma, aka the bastard that killed her sister as well as inosukes mum

she is. justifiably pissed. n she gives it her all but he kills her :(( douma ily but also FUCK YOU.

so perfect timing!!! heres her adopted sister!! as well as inosuke!!!! revenge battle time >:0

in the end shinobus poison is what kills him- her whole body is filled w wisteria poison thats deadly 2 a demon so he basically consumed her whole body weight in poison rip

but ofc word gets out via messenger crow that shes dead n its just a real sad moment tbh :( but theres no time 4 that bc giyuu n tanjirou just ran into akaza >:((

so tanjirous pissed as hell now n w their combined efforts they take down tha basketball lookin bastard (bastardball??)

meanwhile obanai n mitsuri (n yushirou iirc?? he uses his own art 2 control her @ some point tho i cant remember when) deal w tha new upper moon 4 (nakime, whos also shiftin tha rooms around w her blood art n makin tha fight super fuckign annoyin tbh) n muichirou genya sanemi n gyoumei deal w kokushibou (upper moon 1, also tha original sun breathers twin brother so he gets moon breathin >:3)

mitsuri n obanai fake their deaths w help from yushirou n muzan falls 4 it, which comes in handy later ;3

zenitsu also deals w his former bully, upper moon 6 aka kaigaku aka dickhead supreme who if zenitsu didnt kill i would personally kill w my bare hands

so after everyones taken down all thats left is muzan >:( muzan kills tamayo real early on n everyones goin all out on him

we also learn that he has multiple brains n hearts in his body eww

also the hashira have their marks now!! but all but sanemi n giyuu get killed n giyuu loses his arm :((((

genya also gets killed noo

eventually ofc the battle is won thanks 2 everyones relief, it took for fuckin ever bc the only way muzan can die is tha sun so they had 2 kill time n keep him out in tha sun 4 a long time

also nezukos been cured!! shes a human!! n shes comin 2 help!!

but OH GOD OH FUCK MUZAN TURNED TANJIROU INTO A DEMON N GIYUUS CRYIN N INOSUKES CRYIN THRU HIS MASK N ITS GOIN SO FUCKING WRONG but he gets tha will 2 turn back bc Fuck You Muzan, The Power Of Friendship Defeats All

the 2nd to last chapter is tha happy endin, the kamaboko gang visit tanjirou n nezukos house, giyuu cuts his hair n SMILES n tha hashira have their final meetin w oyakata-samas son kiriya

i cried readin it ngl their sufferin is finally over...... it cost a lot but now theres no more demons,,,

chapter 205 is set in tha modern day! kanao n tanjirous descendants are shown, as well as zenitsu n nezukos

everyone who died/never had kids get reincarnated (for example gyoumei is now a daycare worker, kyos reincarnation toujurou is besties w one o tans descendants n giyuu (giichi) is friends w sabito again!! makomos their friend too!!

ALSO KIRIYA IS STILL ALIVE hes the oldest man in japan!! this is huge bc the ubayashiki family dont usually live past 30 bc of a curse that was put on em when they had muzan

yushirou is still alive too but thats bc hes a demon n he paints tamayo for a living qwq

it just made me cry so hard bc waaah,,, everyone gets 2 live a demon-free life now,,, anyway typin this took me like an hour im sorry mint (as well as anyone else who read this)

🎥 do you have any favorite scenes from your hyperfixation?

tha infinity train arc as a whole tbh??? its basically enmu n kyoujurous big moment and. i care them sm. i cant wait 4 tha movie qwq except 4 their deaths ofc

🏳‍🌈 do you have any headcanons (lgbt, race, neuro, etc) that are important to you?

i have a lotta headcanons really!! outta my f/os favs tho i hc:

giyuu is trans bi n autistic

kyo is gay n has adhd

muichirou is nb n pan

mitsuri is pan

douma is gay

enmu is nb pan n autistic

[sometimesrosy]

Actually my friend meant she took a step back when she said ‘you were good for him’ and ‘go save him’ and in his eyes it’s enough of a confirmation that she’s now officially the platonic co leader for Bellamy and now the audience knows it since Clarke voiced it. So he thinks it means they won’t give them a love story because Clarke made it clear that she’s okay with B/E she’s not in the picture and they can be best pals in peace lmfao. I think he makes no sense but my Bellarke heart sank a bit..

Listen. This is the thing about interpretations.

When you like your interpretation, it’s great and you’re sure you’re correct.

And then someone else comes up with an opposing interpretation and it feels like an attack on your interpretation.

In fandom, what happens is we take out the weaponry and start fighting agains that EVIL BAD WRONG INTERPRETATION and in fandom, when we attack, we often start by attacking the person WITH the interpretation, because we, apparently think that by discrediting the speaker, then nothing they say can be worthy. This is a logical fallacy. You aren’t making your position stronger by “killing” the enemy. Their points still stand until you address the points and think about whether they are possible, disproven by facts and text, an interpretation that COULD happen, an accurate reading of text that does in fact contradict your own, in which case, your interpretation is the one that’s wrong, not theirs.

And I think people are afraid that they could be wrong about their interpretation, and they’ve invested in their worth as a human being connected with being right. So if they are wrong, then they are bad. Rather than accept that, they try to do the reverse, by declaring their opponent bad, which makes them wrong. LOGICAL FALLACY. Does not connect. wrong doesn’t equal bad. and bad doesn’t equal wrong.

INSTEAD

when someone comes up with an interpretation that is in direct opposition to our own, the best thing to do is to look at the opposing interpretation and ask yourself.

Okay, well is that TRUE? Is there evidence in the text that supports it? Is there evidence within the text that disputes it? Is it an incorrect assumption that doesn’t understand something? 

Because, well, I mean. It’s a possible interpretation that does make sense. Clarke lets go of Bellamy, because he is with Echo. 

In Clarke’s mind, that is correct. Your friend is looking at the story from Clarke’s point of view. Therefore, there is evidence to support it. Clarke sees it that way. I think a lot of people are following the story from Clarke’s POV, and it feels like there’s no hope for her, and she loves Bellamy so she lets him go to be happy. She wants that for him.

But, when you look at the story OUTSIDE of Clarke’s POV, it no longer follows that interpretation.

Because Bellamy LOVES Clarke. In canon. He feels guilt about loving it, because he knows he is committed to Echo. This is a MAJOR conflict for Bellamy, but it is also a major conflict for the interpretation that the story is saying Bellarke is platonic because Clarke gave her blessing to B/E. Because Bellamy’s feelings for her are romantic, which means platonic Clarke is disproved. You can’t have platonic relationships with romantic feelings because platonic relationships are definitively without romance. 

Now, you COULD still have Bellamy NOT choose Clarke and choose instead to stay with Echo. I think it’s set up to go that way, actually. Clarke is choosing B/E and Bellamy is currently in B/E and doesn’t want to be a dog to Echo, so that says he’s going to be with B/E for a while.

So there’s another way that Bellarke could NOT be endgame. However, it is not platonic because they both long for each other. It is PINING. Which is a romantic emotion. And if it is mutual pining, that means it is not unrequited, although it might not ever be acted upon. Still not platonic. 

BUT there’s one more person in that story whose opinion matters in this. Who has a say in who is in a relationship with who.

And that is ECHO.

At this point, she believes Clarke does not even care about Bellamy. She left him to die. Love? Not even on the horizon. 

At this point, she believes that Bellamy cares about Clarke LIKE A SIBLING. She believes their relationship is platonic. SO. At this point, Echo ALSO confirms your friend’s interpretation. Not only does that mean B/E might be endgame, it makes Bellarke ENTIRELY platonic. No romantic feelings and no longing or pining. 

HOWEVER. ECHO KNOWS NOTHING.

And this is a problem. For her. Now if she figures out that Clarke loves Bellamy, that is sad and might make her jealous, but it is not a problem for her. She MIGHT have an inkling already that Clarke’s feelings for Bellamy are more than platonic. But it’s not a problem. Still she believes B/E is strong.

HOWEVER AGAIN

ECHO DOES NOT KNOW THAT BELLAMY LOVES AND IS IN LOVE AND HAS ALWAYS BEEN IN LOVE WITH CLARKE.

Now this. THIS is a huge problem for Echo as part of the C/B/E love triangle. Having Clarke pine after her non romantic partner and Echo’s boyfriend is not a real problem for Echo. Having her boyfriend pining after Clarke is a HUGE PROBLEM FOR ECHO.

When she finds out that Bellamy is in love with Clarke (and she will. because even if she doesn’t see it with her own two eyes, other people know, and one of those people doens’t like her and is vengeful,) the first problem is. Well damn. Her boyfriend is in love with another girl. The second problem is that her boyfriend has been in love with another girl FOR THEIR ENTIRE RELATIONSHIP, even though he thought she was dead for 6 years. The third problem is that he forgave Clarke after three minutes and it took him 3 years to forgive echo. The fourth problem is that he sacrificed OCTAVIA for Clarke, but sacrificed ECHO for Octavia.  The fifth problem is that he never told her that he was in love with Clarke in the first place which means he was not emotionally open and they were not as honest and intimate as she thought. 

All of that adds up to the fact that Bellamy is more in love with Clarke than he is with Echo. Even if he chooses her to be with, she will always know that he loves someone else more than he loves her. He loves Clarke past all reason, but he loves Echo because it is the logical thing and what a good person would do. 

The only way Echo could be okay with Clarke and Bellamy being in love with each other and Bellamy STILL being with her is if she is a bad person who doesn’t care if Bellamy suffers if she gets to have him. In which case, she would be the wrong person for Bellamy. And Bellamy would not or should not love her. 

So JUST looking at the current, in narrative love triangle of C/B/E, your friend’s theory is jossed. All you have to do is examine the story from the involved characters’ perspectives.

Clarke: possibly now platonic partnership forever. it’s over. This confirms his theory.

Bellamy: he loves Clarke but chooses Echo. This disputes his platonic theory, but could support his B/E endgame theory.

Echo: in season 5, she thinks what your friend thinks. It’s platonic, maybe Clarke has feelings but she’s given B/E her blessing so it’s good. But with the secrets that have been revealed to the audience and not Echo or Clarke, we find out that Bellamy is passionately in love with Clarke, even while dead, and now torn between his love for Clarke and his love for Echo. So in s6 being with Bellamy would entail that she settle for being the choice that he has to be with though he loves Clarke more. And we’ve already had ONE love triangle REFUSE to be resolved this way. Like Raven said, “not the way I want to be loved.” This perspective refutes platonic bellarke and puts endgame B/E in SERIOUS jeopardy.

And all of that doesn’t even take into consideration the LONGER story, which points DIRECTLY to Bellarke being romantic endgame and B/E being the romantic obstacle that pushes them into a romantic endgame to their soulmate relationship. In other words, the story presents b/e as the TOOL to make bellarke finally BE ROMANTIC. The very existence of B/E told me what story they were telling. That they then CONTINUED to emphasize that Clarke and Bellamy’s feelings for each other were actually romantic, rather than giving them a buddy platonic relationship means that they have decided to make non-romantic soulmate Bellarke move into romantic soulmate Bellarke.

The larger story, of seasons 1-5 in general and season 5 IN PARTICULAR flat out contradicts your friend’s bellarke will always be platonic partners theory. However, if you don’t understand how stories are told from a narrative standpoint, and only engage with the story from inside the narrative then you will not know this. Your friend picked a Clarke or in-story Echo perspective for his interpretation, without thinking about how Bellamy’s perspective would affect the story or Echo.

[scolek]

ive done it. ive made in universe fandom monikers for everyone.

so because of the corporate structure status quo i think alkakurei would have the most unimpeachable fandom monikers.

ibara is also a producer so he'd be the one to decide i think but hes ibara so it would be something not obvious. their fans would be HEX. capitalization required. like from the hexagons of the honeycomb that the bees produce. cospro never says anything about whether or not HEX is plural so fans are always debating HEX is already plural or going like. HEX達.

alkaloid. see unlike at cospro eichi would have no hand in this. its some like, random marketing consultant. newly hired. possibly even poached. but, alkaloid are a rookie unit fresh off MDM, theyre not the highest priority. the marketing person takes one look at a picture of them, goes, oh they have a card motif, and goes ok your fans are called Suits. sign up for the fanclub.

eden probably also has a pretty solid one because ibara. but. ok i think nagisa is the one who came up with it. do you have any ideas, your excellency? and this is early days so nagisa doesnt know what the hell is going on so after being explained the concept hes like... maybe something to do with apples? and then hiyori is like mmm you know i could really go for some apfelkuchen right now, oh juuun-kuuun and nagisa goes oh i like that word. it sounds interesting. our fans will be called that. and ibara goes. can we perhaps. explore other options. your excellency. but at their next live nagisa does the God Thing and calls the audience apfelkuchen so it stays. and theyve told a version of that story like 5 times to various outlets.

adam and eve probably have separate names but idc, so

everyone else from the scrappier yumenosaki era is a lot less set in stone. aside from knights, ofc.

i think ryuseitais fans are called extra heroes, but someone at starpro is like 'thats really really bad SEO and also we dont even want to risk toei suing us even if its really not an official term on their end either' (its not, right?) so. but rst has already been done so dirty by starpro. the same marketing consultant was probably slaving away after spending 2 seconds to come up with alkaloids trying to find something that would work actually. theyre called. cometics. not COSmetics, cometics, like comet but with チック at the end because it was trendy at the time. hey sam are you taking this from the song cometic silhouette from kiratto prichan? yes. but it would be something like that. and im already getting tired of being 21st century idol don draper so dont come for me. but i think nobody actually uses it.

i think a similarly fraught situation is with valk fans. you know the xkcd comic about competing standards? every time someone tries to come up with one, it just gets added to the pile. people have lost friendships over what they want to call themselves. the thing that doesnt get you in trouble is just saying youre a valkyrie supporter. and after valk signs with cospro, ibara comes knocking, and shu and mika, who KNOW about the debate, are. on the one hand we could settle this nonsense once and for all. but on the other hand, a lot of people are very attached to the monikers theyve created, and we aint out to hurt their feelings, and the communities theyve created. it goes on like this for a while, to the point where every other idol group at cospro has merch out for preorder and official fanclub signups and the valk fans are starting to make conspiracy theories. shu tries to calm the rumors without poking the bear, but the bear kind of pokes itself at this point and a huge drama breaks out over social media, a few more competing standards are added to the pile, and not even 12 hours after shu posted trying to allay everyones concerns, sign ups for the official valkyrie fan club, called the 公式Valkyrieファンクラブ, are out.

so if youre a cospro girlie, you could be an apfelkuchen, a HEX, a twinkle-star, or A Member Of The Official Valkyrie Fan Club.

the twins were being Good Boys about the fan club thing, and anything else people were calling themselves was similar to what got picked in the end.

i think trickstar are also in a lawless position. but the thing is, nobody in trickstar can agree either. mao likes Plaids (because its unique and also sounds cute), hokuto likes Starlights (mao also likes this one but thinks it might be too generic, but hokuto does not care about SEO), subaru likes Jokers and makoto starts sweating when asked his opinion due to choice paralysis. in times like this, they all turn to anzu. so i think trickstar fans will literally have all of the above in their twitter bios, and also the official one, Revolutionaries.

fine fans are just called angels. nothing special, just the most obvious thing. eichi gets told its bad for SEO? no. thats fine. we're one of the big three, you know. tbh eichi might legit try to copyright エンジェル. i wouldnt put it past him.

rhythlin is an old-school agency so, officially, their fan clubs are also just called fan clubs, but thats not the actual reality of the situation. akatsuki is written with red moon but its a homophone for dawn, as we all well know. so its night, due to the moon, but also not night, because its dawn. so theyre called night glories. like morning glories/朝顔 (asagao, lit. morning face), but at night. 夜顔 (yorugao, yogao, yokao, im sure akatsuki fans know how to pronounce it, akatsuki fans have probably never even seen a yojijukugo they cant handle, and this is only half that)

ra*bits fans are called bitty. another HEX situation where the plural is not super clear, im sure english speaking fans are like lol we're old biddies, but in japanese its just kind of taken for granted. idk nazuna came up with it, and he regrets it every day because hes afraid that one day the other shoe is going to drop and hes going to say ビチー instead of ビティー, oh my god i dust cawwed ebbeyone bitchy nooo my careew is oberrrr

undead fans need to be called something perfect. every single fandom name wants to be as perfect as what undead fans are called, what rei one day declared they were called. its the perfect moniker, its unique but not esoteric, its easy to pronounce, not too long or too short. obviously i dont know what it is. i cant come up with the perfect name. ive been sitting here for an hour and i havent had lunch yet and its three thirty. why havent i had lunch.

natsumes a little computer boy so hes thinking about a strong concept but hes also thinking about SEO. they're terabolts. like terabytes, which is the main way file sizes in SSVRS are spoken about so he uses it a lot, but also lightning bolts, because switch. its pretty perfect. not as perfect as the one rei-nii-san came up with, of course.

and finally, what do you call all seven mam fans who exist in universe and out. double face fans are called agents so when double face broke up some of them liked mam still and started calling themselves magents, originally as a joke. idk. idk man. you tell me what mam fans are called. fucking unicorns, probably.

theyre going to start beef with knights (or vice versa, because knights) immediately because their fans are going to want to call themselves princesses but thats already a fan-group name. unofficially, i guess, we dont have weirdly esoteric-sounding corporate-endorsed fandom monikers like a lot of irl idols (kpop in specific) do

actually it would be interesting to have those. just a bit of in universe flavor. youll take the P suffix from our cold dead hands, out here like we all got some miku software or something.

[pickupafteryourselves]

@pigfartsss

Hey. I’m making a new post instead of reblogging yours because I don't keep track of who's blocked me yet and I’m too lazy to bother checking heh.

In case you were asking for real (and in case you can still see this), here goes mine:

Because "CC believers" take to any outlet they can to directly harrass Darren and Chris and their friends and family. That's where we inevitably see your conspiracy theories and their harmful effects.

On a small scale, this hinders my fandom experience.

On a much larger scale, these people are spreading misogyny, homophobia and transphobia among other nasty things. This isn't about anyone "believing" anything about Darren (people who are not conspiracy theorists simply accept what he tells us about his own private personal life because why the hell wouldn't we? It's his business).

I know what you're going to say: "I have never addressed the actors directly on social media" and "not ALL ccers" etc

It doesn't matter. CCers who don't tweet hate at people still foster those attitudes here on tumblr and do so in the hopes of roping more people into it. You believing whatever doesn't concern us until you start acting on those beliefs to the detriment of others.

You've possibly never posted a single hateful word and simply delight in reading RPF and daydreaming. In that case, anti-CT posts are not for you, they are for the people who promote the terrible attitudes I mentioned. But you asked why some people were bothered by what CCers say, so I took it to mean you were asking fans. If you wanted to know instead why “Miarren stans” send CCers insults, then sorry for butting in :P (I don’t know any Miarren stans, I can’t answer for them). Tbh that practice seems to me like old, nasty ship wars and it’s something usually both sides feed (though I can’t really offer input in, as I don’t partake in RPS, nor do I stan anyone. I don’t endorse these practices and generally disencourage shippers from behaving like this).

CCers could also take their own advice: If they’re so sure Darren goes home to Chris every night, they could relish in that certainty without the need to use their public blogs to throw insults at their fave’s female partner (including whore and alcoholic, which btw gives you a glimpse into what kind of people they are), who they have CHOSEN to assign the role of villain to in their theories out of entirely subjectively disliking her. What they are certain are mere “PR stunts” shouldn’t ultimately bother them. But they want to hate Mia more than they want to just believe Darren and Chris are holding hands out there somewhere. They’re not the only ones. It’s a defining trait in tinhats across fandoms (Supernatural, Outlander, One Direction, Prince Harry, Twilight, Benedict Cumberbatch, Game of Thrones, Lord of the Rings and sadly so many others - you’ll find they use practically the same arguments, lore, “evidence” and insults).

And it’s nice that you say that proven wrong you’d just accept it. It is. Problem is I don’t know what you guys think will prove you wrong if from the very beginning Darren outright said specifically who he was and you decided he was lying. After that, there really is nothing he could ever say with his own mouth or otherwise that would prove you wrong. The words “Chris and I are not dating” have been uttered. Clearly a wedding doesn’t do it for you (it only makes your theories all the more convulted and outlandish). I know for sure that having kids wouldn’t prove it to you either (see those other fandoms for fake baby theories). Your reasons for dismissing his words are 0% objective. Because you think their wedding attires were awful? Plenty of people without bias would agree and plenty would disagree. I fail to see how one’s personal taste in fashion is confirmation of anything. You want to take snapshots, moments in time, in which Darren is being photographed with neutral expressions while going about his business and call them proof? Still being 0% objective, because you are adding your own (wild) interpretations to them (not to mention if people simply walked down the street with a smile on their face, they would look deranged). And with those methods you could “prove” myriad ridiculous statements. There already is a compilation of Darren looking miserable while holding instruments and you haven’t said he hates music. There is a compilation of Lea Michele and Chris Colfer looking and acting and posing like actual lovers. Why aren’t we stating that they are in love as if it were a fact? This could be endless. Whether you think somebody has chemistry or not is ultimately just that, an opinion. Opinions are not facts. You personally hating the color yellow doesn’t make the color yellow universally shit. So, while you may label the wedding as “trashy” and think “well, if it was trashy, it must be fake,” there actually are people out there who thought it looked great. And you would both be correct in your assessments, because they are opinions. The things is, neither opinion has any correlation to the veracity of the event. Zero.

If someone you don't even know personally one day tells you something about themselves like "So my favourite color is yellow" and you go "Fine. Good for you, I guess," instead of deciding it's a lie and then trying to cling on to anything that could however remotely back up your already solidified conclusion, you'd probably be less stressed out whenever they wore yellow sneakers.

There are plenty of contexts in which skepticism is vital, but people’s sexual orientations are not it. And battling homophobia is very important, but making an unwilling participant your champion for it is completely inappropriate. CCers keep talking about how outing someone is bad. But are their blogs not an effort in doing exactly that? If all they wanted to do was vent amongst themselves, they would have passworded these blogs. But they’ve been trying to make these conspiracy theories spread for ages, because that is what conspiracy theorists do.