#i dont think what i have in mind for his character is how he is SUPPOSED to be characterized butttt

[your-mommy-ems]

okay its time for me to put my two cents in the glorious rivals ring after gaining some context.

spoilers ahead :)

ok for starters.

i would like to ask you all to relax, take a chill pill this is literally not that deep, it is a BOOK, words on paper, let that sink in before you start screaming and turning on people because of an opinion. yes that opinion might not align with yours, but that does NOT mean you have to force/argue with someone to see it your way because you think you are right.

firstly why are we so pressed about character's behaviours??? you say you want more complex characters and you cant even handle a teen (is he still a teen lmao i dont remember) losing his mind because his gf just got kidnapped AGAIN.

yes violence isnt the answer and neither is what he said but, people are allowed to make mistakes. if i were jameson and my gf just got kidnapped and its bc some random person i've know for like two days that my brother just fell in love with was telling someone i hate info about things (again running of the little context i have) i would crashout too??? like we're not all perfect

yelling at lyra like that probably was a bit much (and hitting grayson but more on that in a sec) but he doesn't trust her and from what ive gathered he probably thinks he's trying to PROTECT grayson from someone he doesn't trust. has he even been given a reason to trust lyra? (i dont think so?) and grayson who's in love with her is trying to PROTECT lyra

and on the flip lyra is obvi being manipulated by *gags* eve and alice so we cant expect her to be in the know with everything so she's literally innocent in this lmao 😭😭

also are you guys LITERALLY forgetting that grayson and jameson used to fight in tig.... like the straight up just started tackling and fighting each other in front of avery??? im 100% sure grayson can handle a punch my guys. jameson was not VIOLENTLY ATTACKING him bffr are they not hawthorne brothers

you're hating on one character for having an outpour of emotions and practically forgetting all the dickish things good ol' gray was doing in tig and all that (i mean sure he wasnt throwing down and saying go to hell but still) characters dont have to be simply good or bad, they are entitled to a range of emotions and choices and some they make can be bad as long as they LEARN from those mistakes and apologise which im like 90% sure jameson WILL DO

you guys are acting as if jameson's done a full 180 and simply flipped everyone off and told them to fucking die while lighting a bomb thats underneath them all. like guys i cannot stress this enough ITS WORDS ON PAPER 😭😭😭 WHY ARE YOU GETTING SO HEATED ABOUT SOME CHARACTERS 😭😭

calm the fuck down, stop saying characters are ruined before you've even read the book, give it a chance before we start going on and on about how everything's changed (of course it was, this series was never about the core tig characters - grayson excluded - obviously we're going to see the original ones through a new light.) also JLB is entitled to do whatever she wants with this series its HERS just because you think she "ruined" a character does not mean its true

again bc some of you need to hear it:

just because you think your opinion is correct does not mean it is NOR doesnt it mean you can argue/force your opinion onto someone else. calling people names or insulting them because of an opinion ABOUT A BOOK

GUYS ITS A BOOK GET OVER IT 😭😭😭

[just-some-dumb-thoughts]

This^ this is why I love Giorno. We grew up the same. And him ending up so reserved and level headed and monotoned, is something that does truly happen to people. Happened to me!

Growing up the way he did, it makes emotions SO difficult to express. It's a literal chore, it's absolutely exhausting and challenging to physically express emotions for others to see.

We feel emotions, but it's on the inside. And this was shown with Giorno too, when we get to hear his thoughts, his inner monologue is much more expressive.

But when speaking our thoughts out loud, it comes out monotoned and flat. We also get hardcore resting bitch face lol and the humor is dryyyy as fuck. So dry you'll miss the joke if you're not really paying attention. And Giorno cracks jokes, a lot of viewers dont catch how funny he really is.

We think outside the box and problem solve really well. All we had was our minds, growing up. We simply had only ourselves to interact with during formative years. So it's incredibly easy to brain storm constantly. Giorno having such a weird ideas is absolutely normal for someone like him/us. Flamboyant appearance is a way to self express in a way that doesn't drain us like performing emotions. We also feel connected to animals.

Everything about his character is accurate. Every aspect about who he is, is because of what happened when he was young. It all has a reason, he isn't that way for no reason. Hell, I've been seen as boring too. Bland and flat and closed off. People aren't afraid to say this lol so I understand why so many people say the same about Giorno. They had to "be there" to understand him. A lot of people that grew up different just simply will never understand. And that's okay. I'll always love him with all my heart. Despite the masses giving the thumbs down and booing lol

PART 5 GOLDEN WIND SPOILERS

I feel like people tend to forget that Giorno doesn't react to things like most people do due to his childhood experience with showing basic human emotions and ending up still being neglected, his skills with reactions and feelings is seen annoying by some because he has “no personality” throughout golden wind and people often characterize him as boring and dull. This is a rational criticism and I do agree and believe he could have had more amusing personality traits!

When I was first introduced to his character I was wondering to myself; strange, I thought he was going to be like the other jojo’s but I guess I was wrong. But at the same time it felt like there were still missing dots to his character, perhaps there is a reason behind the way he behaves around others and honestly the answer to it I believe is his childhood, when his mother would abandon him to party, he cried and cried until he understood it wasn’t going to help so he just suffered in silence because he knew it was just going to waste his energy and time. His mother ended up marrying some Italian man and the dude abused Giorno. He was a child that wasn’t being treated well. I feel like this behaviour of being avoidant stayed with him as he grew older because his brain automatically began thinking that’s how to survive living. He developed his avoidant personality as a coping mechanism as a result from trauma.

What I’m trying to say is that there is a reasoning behind the way he shows his emotions is and I often see them being ignored by people, he still has his own uniqueness as a jojo. like I get it, It’s shonen and It’s supposed to be entertaining and blah blah blah but he doesn’t act like that for no reason. I feel like this issue in the community would be even worse If he was a woman which Araki was planning to do, like if he was a girl he’d be called a “marry sue” or even derogatory names which is a huge issue in the jojo’s community unfortunately, like Joylne got treated really badly when stone ocean got animated.

Been quite a while since I had a mini yap here! Feel free to share your opnion by the way!

[superbat-lmao]

Jason is never brought back, and instead of being lost in the time stream, Bruce dies. And realizes there’s an afterlife.

(Given that Bruce knows magic is real it’s not that much of a leap to realize there’s an afterlife. Of course, the bigger realization for him was that he ended up in heaven of all places.)

Bruce gets to see his parents. He spends all of his time with them, getting to know them, explaining his life to them. They have all the time in the world and Bruce feels a sense of peace he hadn’t felt when he was alive. By the time he gets to explaining his children, actually getting to tell his parents that they have grandchildren, he realizes they’ve stopped talking.

The novelty still hasn’t worn off for them, for Bruce getting to have real conversations with them and for his parents actually getting to see their son again. It’s no surprise that it knocks the wind out of Bruce when he remembers. Remembers that he’s dead. That his son is dead. That it doesn’t seem like a bad thing anymore because it means he can finally see him again.

But his parents have a weird look on their faces. They had all pushed through the awkwardness, how Bruce wasn’t their little boy anymore but a stoic adult who has techniques for withstanding torture and lacks emotional vulnerability. How Bruce hadn’t gotten a chance to actually know Thomas and Martha beyond scattered society stories that painted a caricature of who he’s talking to now.

But when he realizes that Jason is here, Bruce lights up. He can finally see his son.

So he asks his parents how to visit Jason. His parents had mentioned spending time with their own parents, meeting family members from different generations, how eventually Bruce would get to meet them too, he knows they know how to navigate the afterlife. And he’s finally ready to learn.

When Bruce asks, Thomas excuses himself from the conversation. Says that there’s someone Bruce has to talk to and he needs to go get them.

Martha waits with him, placing a hand on his shoulder. Thomas comes back with a blonde woman that Bruce almost doesn’t recognize. She looks nothing like her picture in his files, or the one Jason kept on his desk.

Thomas and Martha give Bruce and Catherine space while they talk about Jason.

She explains how when Jason had first come to the afterlife, Thomas and Martha had reached out. How the four of them had talked, bonded, grown close. How it had taken Jason time to emotionally recover from his death, from the betrayal of his Mother. From what he felt was the betrayal of his Father.

Jason didn’t want to see him.

Catherine had tried to explain, but Bruce hadn’t been able to follow much of the conversation after that revelation.

His son, who Bruce had turned into a cautionary tale for his other children, who he had missed every single day, who he had grieved and torn himself apart over, didn’t want to see him. And Bruce deserved it. Had chosen to get into a helicopter and left him standing in the sand. Had buried him.

Catherine is far gentler about it than he deserves. Says that Jason loved him, was grateful for everything, but just wasn’t ready.

He would still agree to seeing Thomas and Martha, still saw them as his grandparents, but couldn’t handle seeing Bruce, even if he missed him. Dying didn’t fix everything, the afterlife wasn’t some solution to all of the problems people had when they were alive. The afterlife was just the ability to have more time. And people didn’t come back from what Jason went through easily. Catherine tells him in no uncertain terms that Bruce will have to regain Jason’s trust. If he actually is interested in getting to see him.

Bruce tells her he will do anything to see Jason again. She nods and tells him she’ll keep in touch.

So he waits.

And waits.

And sees his parents, his grandparents, his great grandparents.

And waits.

He waits so long that he sees Harvey.

He sees Talia.

He sees Alfred.

After that, the waiting doesn’t feel quite the same. After all, he eventually sees Dick, again.

Bruce spends his time in the afterlife waiting for his children, and he is both saddened and relieved when he finally gets to see them again.

Dick, thankfully, is first. Bruce is also thankful he had to wait so long to see him again.

Eventually, after long, long lives, they’re all back together. With some new additions. Bruce gets Tim and Damian and Cass and grandchildren and so many people he has missed. Selina visits on “Tuesdays” and eventually he has a new level of normal for his afterlife. Of getting to see his family, his friends.

Dick is the one that eventually tells him.

He doesn’t say much, exactly. Can’t tell him how he is or anything concrete, but he says that he’s seen Jason. That some of the others have also been to see him.

Bruce tries to respond, to have something to say to that, but he can’t. The afterlife isn’t painless, and there’s nothing he can say that won’t hurt whoever he says it to. So he nods at Dick, places his hand on his son’s shoulder, and lets it be.

If linear time existed in the afterlife, then Bruce could say he’d been here longer than he’d ever been alive. Long enough that even Clark stops by occasionally.

It’s rare for him to be alone now. If he wanted it, sought it out, there is always someone for him to be able to talk to, spend time with. But sometimes, if he wandered out a little too far, he could find a small brook he used to play in as a kid, before the West end of the property had dried up.

Here, his Father had “built” a small bridge over the brook. It was part of a footpath that traveled through this part of the afterlife. If he squinted, Bruce could pretend he saw the West wing of the manor, and in the other direction, the edge of Gotham proper.

Clark would have called him Huckleberry if he’d seen him, one leg dangling over the edge of the bridge, the other bent, lying on his back. He could pretend he felt the wood grain, or maybe even a splinter as he listened to the flow of the water. Bruce had closed his eyes, wondering if now that he was dead and the brook wasn’t dried up, if it had fish in it. If it was someplace he could take Dick fishing. He’d gotten it into his head recently that he wanted to try a bunch of father-son bonding activities with both of his dads, so Bruce and John had been making a list.

Between one second and the next, Bruce felt a presence next to him. You didn’t have to travel on foot in the afterlife, or stick to any sort of conventions from being alive really, it was more of a courtesy thing than anything else.

When Bruce opened his eyes, he expected to see Tim, who broke those sorts of conventions more frequently than his siblings. Bruce had a feeling it had something to do with the boy’s obsession with science fiction, but he also presumed it was because he knew Bruce really didn’t mind.

When he glanced up at his son, Bruce lost all pretense of maintaining the “body” that was lying on the bridge. He would have said his heart stopped if he’d still had one. As it was, blinking, breathing, any of the processes that emulated life that people unconsciously maintained here, stopped.

Jason wasn’t even looking at him and Bruce couldn’t take his eyes off his son’s face, unwilling to jeopardize whatever this was.

He looked older, his jawline more defined and he sat taller, legs dangling off the bridge. Age was a funny thing in the afterlife, you could control how you appeared to others, but your mental state usually drew you towards a particular age. For his children, they mostly appeared in their 20s. Bruce kept himself in his 30s or 40s, unless his parents asked. Jason, if Bruce had to guess, was about 20, maybe 22 at the oldest.

When Jason finally looked over at him, he remembered how to breathe. He tried to clear his throat, to think of something to say, to tell Jason how much he missed him, how much he loved him, but all that came out was a strangled gasp. And then he was talking.

“Alfred said that what happened to me was a tragedy. Dick called it a nightmare. At first, Mom didn’t know how to talk about it since being a vigilante was hard for her to picture. She still doesn’t really get it, but I can’t exactly blame her. We led pretty odd lives for a while there.”

“I’ve met Tim and Damian and Cass, you know? Met their partners, their children. They’ve told me a few stories. How some cases went, missions with the League. Their own hero teams. I think Tim was the most excited to talk to me, not so sure about the others.”

“You’ve still got Alfred in your corner, although it’s odd seeing Dick argue for you. One thing about this place is that your memories don’t stay fuzzy or nothing, so all those fights you guys had? Crystal clear. Actually thought he’d take a swing at me once, not that it’d do anything. Still, glad you guys ended up figuring it out and all.”

“Mom said she came to see you when you got here. I’m assuming that’s why I haven’t seen you, although that’s a surprise too, you actually listening when someone asks you not to do something. The way the others talk about you I’d think you became Big Brother after I left. Worse than Babs even.”

“I’ve tried thinking about it. I mean, it’s been years since it happened and all but. I still don’t know what there is to say. Everyone’s been trying to convince me that you’d actually want. Well, that you’d want to see me. Talk or something.”

“But I know what I did. What happened. It’s why I left, I knew that you didn’t. That you wouldn’t ask me to leave, but that. You didn’t want me to stay.”

As he’d talked, Jason’s gaze had drifted back towards the water below them. His tone, retrospective and light, changed. Accusatory.

“It’s fucked up that you kept the suit, Bruce. No one wanted to admit it, but I know about the case. At least it meant I knew what you wanted was Robin, you enshrined the damn thing. So, yeah. I took off. Not like it worked out much better but it’s too late now. I don’t know what you want me to say. I figured dying would at least get me out of the lecture but I can’t even have that now.”

“So. Tell Dick this is me paying back that favor I owed him. Or whatever, I don’t really care. But everyone can stop coming around and all. I’ve said what I wanted to. I’ll hear you out and then I say we’re square.”

Jason had been looking away from him still, but when he got to the end of what was likely a prepared speech, he finally looked at Bruce. His face went slack in surprise. Bruce could have laughed at the expression if he wasn’t already crying.

“Jason. You are my son, even if,” Bruce took a breath. “Even if you don’t see me as your father. I never would have asked you to leave because I never wanted you to go. I can’t imagine- I love you. I have missed you every day since I lost you. I did not handle loosing you well. I understand that you’re upset and I think there’s a lot we should talk about. Even- especially if it’s going to be difficult. I am so sorry, Jason. None of it was your fault - it was mine. Please. Please let me try to- I don’t want to lose you again.”

[fave-fix]

hey guys do we realize that the main difference betwen how kai and midori developed is that kai was given the chance to learn what normal life and love and family was like by working with chidouins while midori was kept under asunaros thumb all his life. do we realize that just a few changes could have kai acting just as cruel and merciless as midori. do we realize that midori is a victim of asunaro too, and though that doesn't excuse his actions it does make them more tragic. do we realize this or are we all being serious when we say midori is the only character who isn't worth redemption.

[skunkes]

i loooove when ocs unrealized development makes them feel like real people like no i dont know whether talon is genuinely attracted to women after years of both clinging to them for safety and years of putting them onto that untouchable idealized Perfect Protector Pedestal that must remain untainted by any bad experiences, so he doesn't even try to Be With any. He doesn't know either

[moeblob]

Right: Why are you like this... while you /do/ have beautiful eyes I didn't mean sell me on your body. Give me a fucking solid personality trait of yours. Paul: Oh. I'm a good listener. Right: ............ so you're pretty if you shut up. Gotcha.

[tenderpreyy]

​I’m thinking again about Astarions sexuality and how I've seen some people (to be fair, just a few) talk about it. Mainly, people pointing out his flamboyant behavior, and that us as players are learning more about his past male lovers than female ones and basically all these things for some people pointing to him being gay or at least not interested in women in the same way he is in men. And him only being a romance option regardless of gender, because, well, all companions are and he is therefore just "playersexual", only showing interest in female player characters because he has to, because of the game mechanics.

I think what really rubs me the wrong way about this topic is that it echoes the kind of things bi/pan people (speaking as a bisexual woman myself) find themselves dealing with irl. Whether through some form of internalized biphobia or from the outside through other people's comments. Of course this is about a fictional character so it’s not like he has any feelings that could be hurt. But when i see people tallying up how often he mentions men vs. how often he mentions women it really reminds me of a way of thinking I sometimes fall into in regards to my own sexuality. This is definitely just an internalized response and not something I actually believe when I truly think about it for a second, but I know these patterns of thought very well. Of observing my own behavior. How often do I find which gender attractive? Am I attracted "enough" to women? Do I talk about men's attractiveness too often? Is it the other way around? Am I only saying this woman is attractive to prove something to myself? I literally have a girlfriend and my attitude towards mine or other's sexual orientation is generally a huge big "whatever, I don't care". And I still have a passing thought like that from time to time.

So seeing people talk about a fictional character in this way really sends home how many people (whether consciously or unconsciously) see attraction as some sort of equation, you can solve, where in the end you get a result of either gay or straight.

[gifti3]

the goverment is definitely figuring out this alien situation asap right?? cause whats happening currently is not feasible in the long run is it not??

im sure they are trying to maybe figure it out...probably, but part of me feels like it is not being treated with the seriousness it should be by them, which ig is in character LOL

pretty much relying on one guy (who doesnt even wanna be doing this) is actually scary

and the mc still has to like 'encourage' him to do it, tho its much easier in the 'ray ending' for sure. that man just wants to live a regular life with mc (unfortunately for him that means continuing to be binary star and dealing with aliens)

and if i was a citizen and knew this id be panicking

like yea u have these other heroes helping and stuff which im sure looks comforting from an outside point of view! but like the actuality is that its ray keeping things afloat

AND ON THE TOPIC OF THE MC, i was definitely in my head like....wouldnt rays superiors (managers??) get like curious about them? like no way theyre not being nosy about it after a certain amount of time passes. it really feels like something that could be leveraged against him,,, (if there is fic about this pls send it to me lol)

honestly i feel like mc and rays relationship would have moments of high stress. like there will be good times but also the bad times will also be there and its sometimes gonna be because of outside factors they cant control

[juaneloriginal]

silly thingy

@blackkatdraws's sillies

[xxplastic-cubexx]

you say they can’t put telepaths in marvel rivals, yet we have some very credible leaks that jean grey and emma frost are gonna be in the game soon.

that being said, jean has telekinesis (and the phoenix force) and emma has her diamond form. telepathy is all charles has, lmfao. odds are pretty low for him, but maybe not zero if they give him telekinesis!

if yall have me say he got psionic blasts one more time i am going to scream HE HAS MORE THAN TELEPATHY . LIMITED BUT HE HAS IT <- he has gone against sentinels and disabled armies with it before HE CAN FIGHT I PROMISEEE

and technically they did give him telekinesis in krakoa (and very weak telekinesis sometimes before krakoa) so .... not my fave move but he does have that ...... and ig they give him a gun sometimes ........ last resort type shit but he has options ..

[indooroutdoorboyfriend]

it's Harassing You o'clock so i am gonna discuss my oc some more in the tags

[northernstcr]

light fires at night (to fill the void) by inthesea is required reading for andreillers

[soupmanspeaks]

rip william afton you wouldve been a terrible family vlogger

[moeblob]

WOW it's way later than I planned to just be finishing art but here we go! I did manage!

[javierduffy]

ohh javieran … javieran post kieran’s death .., javier is a poor lonesome cowboy in america a long way from home with no more sweetheart to sit and talk with him ooohhh can anyone hear me ….

[stuck-in-the-ghost-zone]

anyway in my beautiful (horrible) mind.