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ok i did not realize that nine billion people ship five pebbles and seven red suns i thought it was like a few outliars. hello why are there so many of you????
#everywhere i turn i see it in the tags of art posts. hello???#dont the iterators all consider eachother like. Siblings. like its not just moon#the ancients literally considered themselves as parents to the iterators. like thats said very clearly#i dont know if they consider ALL iterators to be siblings or if they only consider other iterators within their local group to be siblings#but either way moon is still speaking generally when she tells the players the ancients were the iterators parents#like. hello#maybe its not outright said outside of moon and pebs but its still. weird..??????#i dont wanna start shit im literally just asking. like are people skipping over this info somehow?? or something???#even if it wasnt weird id still be meh over ships tbh. like shipping is fun! but i dont feel like any of these characters are shippable#anyways please do not come at me im just like. confused#mossball.txt#five pebbles#seven red suns#rain world
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We know about how Ghost would react to your SSDF au but what about your original iteration tmnt: solar flare?
Idk if I should answer this since I have barely even TALKED about tmnt: solar glare on this blog. Let alone actually get the turtles ref sheets made. But on the other hand making Ghost suffer is very fun...
So Im doing it anyways
@bluepeachstudios Im borrowing the sad old man again (he's too much fun not too)
Putting it all under a read more because spoilers for a lot of major plot points in solar flare. If you dont wanna be spoiled dont look
You have been warned :)
The first thing Ghost would think is "How the shell are these kids not dead?" Because the turtles are absolute DANGER MAGNETS
These absolute idiots, on their first night being on the surface:
FOUGHT THE GODDAMN SHREDDER
NEARLY GOT KILLED BY THE SHREDDER
Got sent to the Spirit Realm
Got attacked by angry spirits
Accidentally CURSED themselves by messing with something they were absolutely not supposed to mess with
Barely escaped the Spirit Realm, now fully cursed
Accidently UNLEASHED dozens of angry spirits into New York
And to make matters worse they got discovered followed back home by a HUMAN (April)
That was NIGHT ONE
Ghost and his brothers were lucky, they only fought Mousers and the Purple Dragons on their first night
And it only gets worse
That curse I mentioned, it has pros and cons. The pros being that it can turn the boys into literal shadows, enhance their strength and speed, make them near completely invulnerable to attack, actually let them attack the previously untouchable spirits, (let then turn into giant shadow monsters), etc. The CONS on the other hand is that the curse is slowly KILLING THEM. Draining more and more of their energy, breaking their bodies a little more each time. And the more that the cool shadow abilities are used the faster the effects are, the worse they'll get and the longer they'll last. Yeah. Ghost would absolutely not have a good time with that. (And would most definitely devote as much time as he could to trying to create a cure or at least find a way to lessen the side effects)
Anyways then theres the matter of the Spirits running loose, very strong, very angry vengeful spirits. That cant be knocked out or killed, they have to be banished back to the Spirit Realm. Which is not at all an easy task. (And considering that the boys will at one point spend an entire WEEK fighting those ghostly fucks practically nonstop to the point that they dont even go back to the lair until they are literally about to pass out from sheer exhaustion...yeah not fun. Ghost might have to carry them all back home) And there's also the Shredder and his growing army of goons causing trouble. Point is Ghost is gonna have a REALLY hard time keeping the kids from constantly fighting for their lives against incredibly strong enemies instead of actually being kids. Poor Ghost
The constant stress and fear along is definitely straining the boys' relationships with each other.
Especially between Leo and Raph. The two closest siblings of the family. The ones that said they were twins and stood by that for their entire lives.
And now they're arguing practically all the time. Cant even go one mission without at least one argument. Leo making reckless plans thinking they'll work perfectly fine then panicking when things inevitably go south and Raph getting angry at him for "screwing up" only because Raph is absolutely TERRIFIED. And Ghost trying to be the mediator, but its hard when you have two incredibly stubborn sixteen year old boys at each other's throats. (Ghost is reminded of the many many Raph-Leo fights that his own Raphael and Leonardo used to have. Only somehow, these are worse.) It just escalates and escalates further and further until one night.
When Raph and Leo actually FIGHT each other.
And it ends when Raph full on quits the team and leaves. Leaves Leo alone on that rooftop, in the pouring rain. (Ghost will never forget that shocked, borderline horrified look on Leo's face as the reality and the guilt over what just happened sets in)
Raph doesnt come home.
Ghost thought he just needed time to cool off but he still doesnt come home. It gets to the point that he tracks the red clad turtle down.
Only to find him in the Footclan headquarters.
Raph had joined the Footclan because he was so tired of the fighting, the arguing.
(Obviously Ghost would go over there to try and break Raph out by any means necessary, even when Raph refuses to leave. He didnt want to join his family's biggest enemies but he was angry when he said yes and now he thinks he's in too deep to leave, even despite Ghost's attempts to reason with him)
Which leads to Leo to do something really, really, really stupid. Not saying what because major spoilers but it ends with him willingly offering himself up to be taken to another dimension in exchange for his family being spared the same fate.
What would happen to him there? Ghost doesnt know.
But that swirling white portal, his child being handcuffed and pushed through despite how hard everyone, Ghost included, is begging for this not to happen, no matter how hard he fights against his own restraints he cant free himself, it breaks something inside him.
All he can do is watch helplessly as Leo disappears into a portal, just like he did when he was sixteen himself, presumably to never be seen again.
Leo is gone for an entire month.
An entire of Ghost obsessively working on the portal with Donnie, trying so so hard to get it to work so they can find him. A month of trying to keep the family together and comfort his poor children who are falling apart at the seams. (Donnie doesnt sleep much anymore, trying so incredibly hard to get the portal working, even moreso than Ghost. Mikey teetering on the verge of a breakdown, going out with April and Casey to search for any signs of Leo every single night. Raph is consumed with guilt, it had been HIS fault that this whole mess happened, and now the poor boy is trying desperately to help his family while also trying to defect from the Footclan, which isnt easy.) A month of searching for the people that took Leo away, a month of hoping and praying that Leo was alright.
And then Leo comes home, with a white samurai rabbit in tow (Despite everything, Ghost finds it a little amusing that some things never change, even across dimensions)
He's different now. Quieter, not nearly as excited as he used to be. His arms and legs are completely wrapped up in black wrappings, up to the shoulder and upper thighs respectively. And he refuses to take the wrappings off. (He now has a slight limp on his right side, his brothers dont notice it but Ghost absolutely does.) And most importantly he refuses to talk about what happened when they were separated. Always saying "Its nothing." "I dont wanna talk about it." "There's nothing to talk about." "I'm fine."
Ghost is worried about him, obviously something happened. Something bad enough to turn the silly, dorky, hero-wannabe kid into this quiet, reclusive, guarded boy. Usagi knows as well but just says its not his story to tell.
Ghost tries to talk to him but every time he gets brushed off. (He did manage to figure out it somehow involved the Battle Nexus, from the tiny bits of information Leo shared. Though he highly doubts it was the same Battle Nexus he used to know) All he can do is provide comfort whenever Leo seeks him out, usually late at night and usually the result of a nightmare. (Which have become much much more frequent, only adding to Ghost's worry)
And unfortunately Leo is not the only one going through hell.
Because not long after Leo's return and Raph finally leaving the Footclan, Mikey gets captured. It would be bad enough if it was Shredder or the Krang. But it is so much worse and makes Ghost's blood run cold.
Mikey was captured by the EPF.
Ghost vividly remembers how a similar situation happened to him and his own Michelangelo. (How Mikey was almost dissected in front of him, how his own mid was torn apart for all the world to see. Bishop...)
The family hurriedly breaking into the EPF lab, hoping that they'll find Mikey in time.
They didnt.
Mikey wasnt as lucky as Ghost's Michelangelo.
Bishop, that sick twisted bitch, actually cut Mikey open.
Ghost's worst fear had been realized.
(Ghost never wants to see Mikey's bloody plastron and exposed ribcage ever again for as long as he lives. Watching his frantic heart gradually slow the more blood gushed out.)
And it only gets worse
Because Mikey, in a desperate last ditch effort to try and escape, he somehow activated a part of the curse that no one knew they had.
The ability to transform.
He had turned into a massive DRAGON made entirely of shadows (the only reason they knew it was him was because of the bright orange markings on the shadow dragon's body.)
And the dragon went on a rampage, obliterating the EPF lab including majority of the staff. (Unfortunately Bishop survived, which was a shame) and once the lab was destroyed it attacked New York, trying to tear everything apart in blind fear and panic. (Those terrified screeches will haunt Ghost for the rest of his life.)
It nearly killed them all trying to calm Mikey back down enough to get him home and stitched up. (And then clinging to Ghost like a scared koala for a very long time, not like Ghost can blame him.) And the worst part of this whole Dragon affair? Mikey cant CONTROL IT.
So that means the second his emotions get out of control, here comes the terrified dragon that will lash out at anyone perceived as a threat. (Which is anything that moves.)
And each time Mikey is beating himself up with immense guilt and fear that he will hurt the people he loves.
This is only the tip of the Solar Flare trauma train.
There will be more. (Raph and Donnie are gonna get their's too. So will April, Casey, and Splinter)
Other traumatic/weird events include:
Donnie getting kidnapped by Karai, which leads to April and their parents getting kidnapped. Which leads to April getting thrown off a building and Karai losing her entire arm. April is only 13 in this au btw so oh boy Karai better fucking run because once GHOST hears about that she might lose more than an arm.
Leo gets turned into a cat
Raph and Mikey get kidnapped by clowns
The boys get captured by an alien bounty hunter and taken to a completely different galaxy. Poor Ghost is gonna have an absolute heart attack.
The boys bring home a giant sea monster and keep it as a pet in the sewers. (They name it Jeffrey. Ghost left them alone for five minutes HOW DID THEY DO THIS?!?!)
Both RAPH AND LEO get thrown through the window in the Krang invasion. And Raph ends up in a coma (Leo already had his turn in a coma) Ghost having an absolute heart attack reliving this awful moment TWICE.
April's parents find out about the turtles (and later their paternal grandparents find out when the fam go to stay at their farmhouse)
The turtles are gonna be stuck in a timeloop for an entire month. (The entire month leading up to the Krang Invasion. They went from having a month to prevent it to only having a day and a half. Which is why the invasion happens.) Ghost will never forget that look of pure dread on his kids's faces when they looked up at the blood red sky filled with krangships. This is exactly what he didnt want to happen, his kids having to grow up too fast and get into problems far too big for them.
Also bonus: the turtles first meet Casey by literally RUNNING HIM OVER. The kids call Ghost frantically saying that they "accidently murdered someone what do we do?"
Poor Ghost, poor traumatized turtles
Lol
#tmnt ghost in the shell#tmnt: solar flare#borrowing ghost is so fun#put him in fun situations#I really need to talk about Solar Flare more#and get alk the reference sheets drawn ._.#lol
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Any headcannons for og trio? (Surv monk hunter)
yes yes yes ABSOLUTELY . i love these three
as a note i have 2 aus that involve them !! monk is only just barely considered an adult in slugcat years when they leave their family after survivor, their older sibling. theyre also the runt of the litter. they also have the same ascension powers as saint, but those only show up after the events of their campaign (slugtree ending, ofc) 👍 survivor is. actually dead in my main au for them. their campaign still takes place, but they die after making it to the slugtree. im not going into why tho bcz im still mildly nervous talking abt my au stuff on here HSHS as for my other au, the two of them live with gourmand, arti, and hunter at the slugtree!! gourmand adopted them when they made it to the tree and found their parents gone, and so when gourmand, hunter, and arti got together the two of them basically became their kids too. they actually have two siblings, who hunter and arti had.
and for hunter hcs, these are all for the au w/ arti and gourm. hunter gets cured of their rot !! the majority of it ended up concentrated into their arm, and at some point spears shows up to inform hunter that sig wants to attempt to cure it after getting reports from one of his overseers that hunter was living in outer expanse and literally has 4 kids and is still dying . they get a prosthetic arm !! i personally think that hunter having the rot was an accident, but sig just didnt have time to give it a second go and make another slugcat since he wanted to get moon back up asap. i think the most common appearance of the rot is probably a disease in purposed organisms, moreso than it being directly Iterator Cancer. anyways i dont know how to end this i apologise for the rambling and also the fact that this is more au plot than headcanons GHDBGHJDA
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PRIVATE TRANSMISSION
EP: Just checking that you're still alright.
FTL: Yes, I am. There is no need to worry. You'd have heard of it by now if something went wrong with me.
EP: Okay. Alright. Sorry, I'm just... on edge. What with...
FTL: Songs of the Negative Sunlight?
EP: Yeah.
FTL: Understandable. I do not condemn you for checking on me. Your concern is... appreciated.
EP: Of course, you're my brother!
EP: Also, what did you mean by saying that I'd have heard of it if something went wrong with you?
FTL: Ah, well. You were the one who contacted Upsilon in order to inform him of my incapacitation, correct? He is currently here, I'd imagine that he would most likely notify you if something went terribly wrong. Not that it will because I am functional.
EP: Right. That is indeed correct... Wait, what do you mean he's currently there
FTL: Upsilon is part of a group of autonomous Iterators.
EP: Autonomous Iterators. Really.
FTL: I am being completely serious, I do not joke around.
EP: Of course, of course... Are you sure though??
FTL: Yes I am, Echoes of a Paradox. We are holding an in-person conversation even now as you and I converse via typical means. I am just as astonished as you are.
EP: Huh. Well you learn something new each cycle, I suppose.
EP: Was he the one... de-incapacitate you?
EP: I could have phrased that better.
FTL: No. There was an odd batch of spider-like miniature robots each approximately three-quarters the size of my puppet that showed up. One of them was the one to plug the cable back in (which I do consider to be a terrible design decision on my creators' parts).
EP: Spider-like robots... Oh! The spiderbots! Those were probably sent by Nine Spiders' Dawn.
FTL: And who exactly is Nine Spiders' Dawn?
EP: He is a member of Local Group 17 that I contacted for help after I got the notification that you were 'unconscious'.
FTL: I see... How many Iterators... How many people, including intelligent non-Iterator life, did you bring into this situation of miniscule importance?
EP: It's not miniscule if you basically got ripped in half for at least two whole cycles.
EP: Do not worry though! It was only Upsilon and Nine Spiders' Dawn.
FTL: As well as whoever it was that Upsilon decided to bring along with him. Winter's Monsoon was the other Iterator's name, and a few others' overseers were there too.
FTL: You could have simply only contacted Nine Spiders' Dawn. No need to involve more Iterators needlessly, I must say.
EP: LISTEN. I AM NOT GOING TO LOSE YET ANOTHER SIBLING JUST BECAUSE YOU DECIDE TO BE AN IDIOT. RIGHT AFTER I EXPLICITLY EXPLAINED ALL OF MY GRIEVANCES THAT I HAVE AGAINST YOU. I WILL BRING AS MANY PEOPLE AS NECESSARY INTO THIS IF IT MEANS YOUR SAFETY.
EP: I DONT CARE. NO. NO YOU DO NOT GET TO DO THIS.
FTL: I am alright. There is no need for an overreaction.
EP: say that again, i dare you.
EP: I am not overreacting. I've been you, I know you. I've been in your same mindset - even if you're changing it! - I can guess the exact reasoning behind what you do. I am perfectly aware of the fact that you will drive yourself all the way to death and not even notice.
EP: I will not be losing another sibling to a preventable cause.
FTL: ...
EP: I will be checking in on you once more at some point within the next cycle or two. Say thank you to Upsilon for me for being there for you in ways that I cannot. Have a good cycle, Finely-Tuned Line. Don't be an idiot.
#I DIDNT MEAN FOR THIS TO GET THIS LONG OKAY DSHJDKS#i. i just like writing them okay#@predictions-of-the-past#<- other blog of mine where another side of this whole shebang gets explained!! (nsds side)#...ive been you i know you your façade is a scam /lyr#HSJKDS lsiten i just thought ep deserved to rant at ftl again#like. fuck imagin being in eps shoes#holy prime. one sibling 'dies' (<-...thatll be clarified upon Later). and then the other one KEEPS ALSOMOST DYIUNG#FUCK I FEEL SO BAD FOR EP#):#anygays i love wriitng chatlogs 👍#rp#finely-tuned line#echoes of a paradox#chatlogs#I ACCIDENTALLY POSTED THIS BEFORE PROOFREADING NOOOO#editing on the fly lol
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i cant just say they should sweep without saying Why so... have some epic oc lore that really doesnt describt ehm well at all
first of all i will talk abt QUIEG
she is so silly. a lesbian but she is actually a bisexual. one of her girlfriends named her "keeper of ten trillion beads" because she has so many fucking beads. she started teaching herself agriculture to hopefully impress a girl. somehow more emotionally repressed than dew.
she was created as a back-up and temporary replacement for dew while everyone was still arguing abt her arm count and length, and because of that ey has massive self-worth issues. she's awful at emotions, doesn't know how to comfort them or react appropriately to most situations, and is very Stoike in the way she speaks
she's very spiritual but rarely talks abt it. her spirituality is mostly just "science is magic". she also doesn't believe in the power of the void sea - mostly as a joke though
her design was made in literally 1 minute but its one of my favorites. inspired very ovbuously by ladybuggs... i wanted to make her match dew but i dont need any more ant siblings so
feathers.... he is very
used to be very basic and plain in his style, then he found out abt nwb and immediately started wearing the weirdest shit. his current aesthetic is 'gay blacksmith'.
he used to be called famished sun, but changed his name bc he thought it would be funny. he remembers his username because of the acronym "TSF", which he decided means "the sun famished"
he's the surgeon of the group, altyhough he's recently decided to try out some crosstraining so he can help people outside of it. he uses his medical prowess to gross out siblings and just-barely-strangers, although he knows to limit himself if someone's genuinely uncomfortable. he's also got some religious knowledge, since doctor = holy man in the country oceanic takes place in
he's the only person in his entire group who doesnt have parental issues, because his admin was actually really nice. they taught him a lot, even helped him sneak out and see the sights in the city on his can! he misses them a little bit.
he has a walrus mouth. btw. if you even care /ref
dew. p much everyone who knows abt my blogs knows dew, considering she was the first person to talk on global comms after the global ascension
uhhh if you like epic diversity stuff. she's the first fat iterator ive ever seen so thats gotta mean smth. also she has fur! the fur, when poofed out, redirects any electricity safely away from her body, although there's a bit less on her hands and legs.
she has resting bitch face but nobody outside of her group knows bc she never sends pictures of herself to others and the only 3 who met her in person either a. rarely saw her face or b. are ea
oh yeah! she's dating eternal anomaly.
dew is an enjoyer of death metal and has been practicing her Scream ! her favorite song is the wreck of s. s. needle <333
she has...ant mandibles :] unlike the rest of her group she generally forgets to retract them when not eating bc i like drawing them and i think it is cute. it is sort of like when a cat bleps
BUT YEAH
that is the super duper basic info , not even mentioning most of their personalities or dramas or their hobbies / likes / etc :]
if they win i will cry. thank you for your time
ROUND 1 PART 2!
For this one, we got Booming Voice, Quiet Temper + Three Small Feathers In A Lake Of Quills + First Dewdrop Of Morning, Fifth Sunrise from @oceanremnants + @oceanic-recollection VS Hiss From Sun-Golden Scales from @hiss-from-sun-golden-scales!
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totally going for the obvious ones here buttttt snatcher and florist
ah yes, the two characters for whom I have some of the most backup history for
Snatcher:
Favorite thing about them: he's a Bastard. He is Smug Bastard Man and he Will fight you for fun and profit. Peak antagonist design for me
Least favorite thing about them: This is Technically getting into the prince but like... fandom characterizations of them as separate people. no, he has just let his inner Bastard loose upon the world it has always been there let him give in to the Bite Instinct in all iterations please at least once
Favorite line: "You didn't forget about me, didja? don't tell me you forgot about me!" he's just. he's got a Presence okay
brOTP: him n hat. they r siblings your honor they will commit crimes together
OTP: uhhh aroace hc so. not really anyone
nOTP: kids and also Vanessa please keep her away forever
random headcanon: I know I have rambled about this one at Length with you but that he is Part Of The Forest in a way that like. a squirrel is not necessarily part of its forest. a bird isn't. he is Attached to it. he knows you're there even if you can't see him
unpopular opinion: i enjoy dadtcher content ofc but tbh obnoxious older sibling snatcher is Fave. I don't know how unpopular this is but so far I have only seen him written as Obnoxious Older Sibling once (1 time) and it was snowl. I don't know if I just did not look long enough but. yeah
song I associate with them: mmmm there's one Very Specific cover of Oh It's You and I almost feel like it's cheating because that is one of His Songs in-game but also like. i literally cannot think of anything else i do not listen to enough different music for this
favorite picture of them: he just looks so happy
Florist:
Favorite thing about them: Interpretations! There's so little about her in-game that basically it's free game on how you want to write her!
Least favorite thing about them: I uh... don't really have that many? IDK I guess the fact there's so little in-game information on her we get two pictures and she's barely even central in those v.v was she just a vendor was she Important i must Know (and so devise stories myself)
Favorite line: she has None :(
brOTP: her and the prince they are childhood friends i have decided. if she were alive now she and snatcher would still be friends. pulling pranks on his contractors all that jazz
OTP: I don't really have one? like. I don't tend to ship so ig she just. runs her flower shop and causes mayhem with the prince idk man pff
nOTP: children. no. this is an Adult, do Not
random headcanon: she has plant magic and is allowed to cause mischief in the forest (to an extent). She will Fuck You Up if you mess with her / people she cares about she has thorns
unpopular opinion: i personally think she is not interested in dating prince boy . maybe it is because i want an Ace Friends Moment but uh. i just personally don't see it. especially considering when she shows up in the storybook? mmmm. idk somethin about that makes me slightly uncomfy
song I associate with them: I don't really have one? I just kinda. vibe. i have very limited music taste. also electric daisy violin (lindsey stirling) i dont know it's just Fun
favorite picture of them: i mean... there's two canon pictures and neither of them are my favorite, because uhhh. i just. i really like the thing i drew of her. idk man
(also i would like to nicely request everyone look at my flowers again. yes im still on this)
anyway yeah thank you bany for feeding my desire to ramble about them
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unpopular opinion, but WWX was disappointing in Episode 14 of the Untamed
reasons why? it’s all about after that beautiful music video montage, in the aftermath of his rescue...
he doesn’t so much as thank JC, and immediately goes “here you are at last”. this may seem small, but like. how hard is it to say thanks? he says “it’s been many days since you escaped.” which sounds a lot like since you escaped.
goes straight to asking about LWJ, which i mean... ok, hes in love (LOL) and we get that, but... it might be the fault of the fact that we don’t see any evidence of their (JZX and JC) struggles (i.e. they still look pretty), but he just ignores that they’ve been through a lot too? how hard is it to say “are u ok, bro?”
like, it’s not unreasonable or bratty for JC to ask, “you dont thank me first?” because it’s basic courtesy, even if you don’t mean it, to thank someone for coming back to rescue your ass (i would think)
(gotta take a quick aside to say, i love the fact JC and JZX got along enough to work together... like despite JC not liking him, he’s being very decent and stuff, and yah... manners are good)
imma ignore all the fuckery about the Wens and this attack mode theyve decided on, because thats a whole other kettle of fish
so he wakes up after collapsing and the siblings are all sweet, but then JFM (the bastard) comes in, and... theres all that shit he does with ignoring his other two children and hyper-focusing on WWX (he’s injured, but we all know it’s not because of that)... and WWX doesnt do anything about it? imma break this down further
JFM completely ignores JC. doesnt so much as look at him. says “you suffered a lot this time” to WWX. when WWX says “JC suffered a lot saving me” thats one point in his favour. One. Point.
JFM does his own fuckery by saying “Well done” but doesnt even say it to anyone in particular. WWX isnt dumb. he should know JC needs at least one bit of validation, but does he get that? nope
WWX does that little chin jerk as if to go “see, i stuck up for u” and it’s like minimal effort there, pal. wow. thanku so much. and JC goes and congratulates him, and then WWX says if u were there u couldve had some credit too (and he’s not saying it in a smug way, but like... come on dude, u know ur bro wants that credit desperately)
then im not even gonna go into the detail of JFM scolding JC for saying that stuff, like... everyone knows that bit. what i want to point out is that WWX says nothing throughout all of this. lots of people say that he has to behave well because he’s technically not a family member (servant), but whilst that may be true with Madame Yu, this was the part where she wasnt even there yet?? and its clear that JFM favours him and likes when he speaks his mind, so why couldnt he step up for his little bro instead of letting him be talked to like that???
“Uncle Jiang. It’s alright. He’s just angry and speaking without care.” is like the worst damn thing he couldve said, goddamnit. it just highlights JC’s bad characteristics (which im not denying he has), and martyring himself. would it have been so difficult to say “Uncle Jiang. that’s just the way JC shows concern for his loved ones (and you’d know that if u paid any attention to him at all whatsoever)”
so im not gonna criticise WWX for staying quiet when Madame Yu walks in because thats basic survival instinct. if he speaks then, he’s toast XD and i understand that. it’s afterwards, when he’s comforting JC (or trying to) where he says that JFM is only strict with JC because hes his heir, yadda yadda... im like, does that excuse him blatantly being uncaring to him? why does WWX feel the need to justify that behaviour? all its doing is telling JC that what he gets (which is strictness) is what he gets, and comfort, love, affection etc are not what he deserves from his own father
“But I’m different. I’m the son of someone else.” aiyah man, how does that feature? he was the son of someone else, but it’s obvious since he walked into Lotus Pier that he’s now considered JFM’s son too, at least in the way he treats him!! it’s no excuse to say that, really! ahhhh im so annoyed. and it’s this that leads me to my main point, which is...
as i’ve said before, lots of people would argue that WWX lacks the ability to speak up for JC, or really do anything here, but lemme say why i think that isn’t quite true. in terms of favour, seniority, talent, potential etc etc, it’s obvious that WWX wins. he’s absolutely JFM’s favourite child, there is no question about that. if he spoke his mind and disrespected JFM, the likelihood is that he wouldnt get kicked out even after that!
like, JFM and YZY would have a massive blow out, but can you imagine JFM allowing WWX to be thrown onto the streets?? i cant. it’s more likely JC would be thrown out than WWX...
ok... ok maybe not. idk, but my point stands that the punishment for WWX speaking out would be buffered by JFM. in The Untamed at least, it seems that JFM has a more assertive stance than the donghua (or novel??), so like, i can see him fighting with YZY over it
im frustrated with WWX being so passive about everything basically. and like, that generated this whole shitpost rant. dear god. why am i so invested in this fucking dysfunctional mess of a family. bloody Jiangs...
i knew it wasnt gonna be any different from the previous iterations of MDZS, but why why why couldnt WWX make different choices... haha. change the whole damn canon just to give him and JC less friction. it would make him more of a hero in my eyes if he used his bravery in the family as well as on the battlefield...
#shitpost#the untamed#episode 14#i think my saltiness is rather obvious#if it wasnt clear#i am part of the JC protection squad#i do not hate wei wuxian#but by god he could have done something#that was a heartbreaking scene#and he just sat there#even shijie walked off#fucking hell#notmyWeiYing
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REALLY LONG CHARACTER SURVEY.
I’m not subjecting anyone to this horror. Stolen from @crimsonfluidessence
BASICS.
FULL NAME: Vesevont Nevelaux
NICKNAME: Ves, “Cap”
AGE: 49
BIRTHDAY: 15th Sun of the Second Astral Moon (March 15)
ETHNIC GROUP: Ishgardian Elezen
NATIONALITY: Ishgardian
LANGUAGE(S): Common Eorzean
SEXUAL ORIENTATION: Bisexual
ROMANTIC ORIENTATION: Biromantic
RELATIONSHIP STATUS: Single
CLASS: Dragoon (OOC only, IC a mere knight)
HOMETOWN / AREA: Coerthas
CURRENT HOME: The Mist
PROFESSION: Ex-knight of Ishgard's House Durendaire. Currently: none
PHYSICAL.
HAIR: Blond
EYES: Amber
NOSE: He has one(1) nose.
FACE: Scarred, eye bags, wrinkly, crow’s feet, a little gaunt, aged
LIPS: Probably dry to be fair.
COMPLEXION: Light or, probably just pale
BLEMISHES: We all have ‘em
SCARS: One over the right eye, one across the left cheek and nose. And others.
TATTOOS: None
HEIGHT: 6′6″
WEIGHT: Average for his height
BUILD: Lean, fit
FEATURES: He’s got pretty big ears?
ALLERGIES: Bananas.
USUAL HAIRSTYLE: Short, blond, shaved on the sides.
USUAL FACE LOOK: Resting bitch face
USUAL CLOTHING: Old knight-attire with green cloak, or his blue outfit later in SB
PSYCHOLOGY.
FEAR(S): Abandonment, his kids or friends getting hurt, Carbuncles, Voidsent
ASPIRATION(S): Being able to settle down with someone
POSITIVE TRAITS: Tenacious, Loyal, Polite, Caring, Merciful
NEGATIVE TRAITS: Reckless, Stubborn, Confrontational, Harsh, Impulsive
ZODIAC: Ironically a Pisces (Thaliak on the Eorzean calender)
TEMPERAMENT: Guarded but usually optimistic
SOUL TYPE(S): He has a soul or he wouldn’t be alive.
ANIMALS: He’d want to be a shark
VICE HABIT(S): Stress-eating, boredom eating, eating
FAITH: Unknown
GHOSTS?: Reluctantly yes
AFTERLIFE?: He hopes so
REINCARNATION?: Maybe
ALIENS?: "Who?”
POLITICAL ALIGNMENT: Probably really liberal
ECONOMIC PREFERENCE: Don’t ask him things like this he doesn’t know.
SOCIO POLITICAL POSITION: Refer to the above
EDUCATION LEVEL: Life experience. (He was a knight. Cannon fodder.)
FAMILY.
FATHER: Yes; Dead
MOTHER: Yes; Dead
SIBLINGS: No
EXTENDED FAMILY: Probably
NAME MEANING(S): Vesevont is the made up version to his OC actual name, Vsevolod, which hilariously means ‘lord of everything/everybody’. It’s also a name that hasn’t been used in centuries so anyone with that name is looked at very weirdly irl.
HISTORICAL CONNECTION?: No.
FAVORITES.
BOOK: Particular towards fiction, because he likes happy endings.
MOVIE: If there were movies, rom-coms.
5 SONGS: He doesn’t really listen to music anymore
DEITY: Not currently
HOLIDAY: Maybe Starlight
MONTH: Doesn’t matter
SEASON: Spring
PLACE: The Ruby Sea
WEATHER: Warm and sunny
SOUND: The ocean, the breaking-the-sound-barrier sound Sihl makes when flying
SCENT(S): Fresh cut flowers
TASTE(S): Savory, spicy, chocolatey
FEEL(S): Warm hands on his icicle hands.
ANIMAL(S): Again, sharks
NUMBER: 13. A baker’s dozen
COLORS: Yellow
EXTRA.
TALENTS: Destroying property, taste-testing, withstanding harsh environments
BAD AT: Acting normal and well integrated into society, social anything
TURN ONS: Intelligence, Kindness, Snappy Wits and Sarcasm, Prim and Proper
TURN OFFS: Cruelty, Unforgiving..ness, All Out Bad
HOBBIES: Flying with Sihl and exploring, sometimes people-watching
TROPES: Anime-Reactions, Dopey Dad, Seems to Survive Everything
AESTHETIC TAGS: Birds, the sky, flying, the sun, dragons happy, uplifting and airy
GPOY QUOTES: "Uh oh.”
FC INFO. (I dont know what ANY of this means.)
MAIN FC(S):
ALT FC(S):
OLDER FC(S):
YOUNGER FC(S):
VOICE CLAIM(S): WS!Cap definitely was lip-syncing Ronan Harris’ voice due to the sheer multitude of VNV songs that were part of his character. But Ves specifically?? I imagine something probably deeper and more rough but I haven’t heard anything I liked in particular yet.
GENDERBENT FC(S):
MUN QUESTIONS.
Q1: IF YOU COULD WRITE YOUR CHARACTER YOUR WAY IN THEIR OWN MOVIE, WHAT WOULD IT BE CALLED, WHAT STYLE WOULD IT BE FILMED IN, AND WHAT WOULD IT BE ABOUT?:
If it were up to me, the movie would be emulating a war movie in style, with muted and often cold colors and much darker themes and tones. Occasionally there’d be bursts of color or uplifting scenes to remind everyone that people are still human and contrast all the darker stuff, so a balance between the two.
That’d be the most important part of it for me personally. Many references to all sorts of symbolism, though not too heavy-handed with it, allegories, metaphors, etc. To explore the spectrum of the ...for lack of better term, human condition.
Q2: WHAT WOULD THEIR SOUNDTRACK / SCORE SOUND LIKE?:
Completely orchestrated, done in a romantic style so that, in case someone weren’t watching the movie itself, they could simply listen to the music and imagine their own scene to it as the composition of said songs would ...in a perfect world, be very specifically tailored to fit certain sequences of emotion and whatnot.
And of course some violin/piano duet pieces sprinkled here and there.
Q3: WHY DID YOU START WRITING THIS CHARACTER?:
Ves is just one version of an old OC I’ve had for a long, long time. Maybe eight or so years. Give or take. He’s got several different iterations thus far.
Q4: WHAT FIRST ATTRACTED YOU TO THIS CHARACTER?:
My love for war movies and such to be honest. Along with my insane fascination and interest in historical narratives and European warfare and the like. Typically, Ves’ character is usually pulling all sorts of things from WW1 from fashion to mannerisms, and his whole world is constructed to emulate that as well (though, not set on Earth.) Not the FFXIV version of course because Ishgard is there, but other versions of him such as WS and his original counterpart.
Q5: DESCRIBE THE BIGGEST THING YOU DISLIKE ABOUT YOUR MUSE:
If I had to pick the largest thing I have against him (and I mean this character in general, not specifically FFXIV,) it’s the need for historical accuracy in most cases. I’m a die-hard for things like that and spend a lot of time doing research (usually just for fun but I get carried away easily.) Considering reference material isn’t always the easiest to find for really specific things from a time period that old, it becomes frustrating VERY quickly when I don’t feel I’m portraying him ‘authentically’ enough.
Elsewise, as far as his personality goes, he’s just like any dad. The need to always be right drives me absolutely insane. The good thing about him though is that he’s fictional and I can make him change and grow and learn. >:) Now that’s what I call sexy.
Q6: WHAT DO YOU HAVE IN COMMON WITH YOUR MUSE?:
We both love to eat and eat way too much too often and yet are like twigs. And we’re too particular about certain things.
I dunno, your characters technically are just facets of you.
Q7: HOW DOES YOUR MUSE FEEL ABOUT YOU?:
He’d be extremely annoyed but I don’t think he’d do anything about it. I am but a CHILDE.
Q8: WHAT CHARACTERS DOES YOUR MUSE HAVE INTERESTING INTERACTIONS WITH?
Thus far? There’s Lowrey who won’t leave him alone and is always trying to wrangle Ves in like a bucking horse, and they’re VERY entertaining to watch with their weird and aggressive banter (on Ves’ part anyway, he can’t stand the guy. Lowrey just rolls with the punches with a big grin and keeps on pushing. Ves is gonna clobber him one of these days for real this time. For REAL this time.)
And then there’s Ves and Caudecus’ very polarizing and almost jarring but still extremely funny interactions with one another. They’re roommates right now so, typical roommate shenanigans, laugh track plays here. There’s something sinister hidden underneath it all and I think Caud may just get a laugh out of stabbing Ves verbally, which is also something I enjoy laying witness to.
And of course, Mei and Ves. He has NO idea who she is, he just kind of met her out there in the wilderness I suspect and thought she was weird, but she’s very fun and loves to go exploring and flying too and that’s something he can relate to. Plus Mei displays a very clear sense of justice and that is something he appreciates VERY much. She’s just whacky and weird and a mystery but he likes it and doesn’t know why. It’s probably all the pink.
Q9: WHAT GIVES YOU INSPIRATION TO WRITE YOUR MUSE?:
Anime stuff probably, war stuff. I dunno, depends on my mood for the day. I don’t need inspiration, my characters are just on a roulette wheel. Which one do I feel like using today.
Q10: HOW LONG DID THIS TAKE YOU TO COMPLETE?:
About an hour, but I had to constantly rephrase things that didn’t make sense.
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shortish (or longish) thing on lex's thoughts on lena? :3c
Unfortunately this would require a good knowledge of Lena and I seem to have forgotten most of her character from when I was initially watching Supergirl. I guess her character, as much as I like her, wasnt nearly so interesting / impressive to my brain sorry. But then neither was anyone else since I'm hovering in that territory of I barely remember what I've watched and that says something considering I remember enough of SV to write Lex. Anyway. But to get on to some semblance of your question this would require such a retcon on Lex's backstory considering SG states that they grew up together in some way and the dysfunction of the family might actually be in some ways worse than the SV iteration... which is uh something else for sure. A good portion of Lex's personality stems from his pervasive feeling of loneliness and disconnect which I dont think would have occurred with Lena, as much as the shows would like to state. Reason being is how attached he was to Julian, and despite Lionel I think Lex would be more aggressive toward Lionel than he would to his sibling, unless of course said sibling really took on to Lionel's teachings. I guess there would be some resentment but would it be toward Lena? Idk. Please note I'm keeping Lilian out of this as the very fact that she is alive changes literslly everything. If I'm not wrong in certain comics where Lena is actually present shes one of the few people Lex gives a shit about. But also note I know this from like wiki and I read it 3727271 years ago so I could be misremembering. Anyway. Taking into all my canon, or even just SV canon, there could be something to say about Tess and Lex's supposed relationship that would work in this instance for Lena and Lex ...in some sense. It would have to be twisted and worked out and only then could I give a legitimate answer to this question.
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Love and Marriage.
Lets talk marriage, you and I.
This is part of my ongoing attempt to wrap an aging country catholic brain around this brave new world we live and navigate in.
Lets figure this out.
Lets start with old marriage.
Pre tinder, pre contraception, pre industrialisation. pre social welfare.
So we posit a village, reasonable prosporous of say a 1000 people.
Some 100 quite well off, some 100 not so well off, the rest in the middle.
There will be kids, who will become teenagers, become interested in the opposite sex.
There will be the male dream of lots of sex with many different hot women, maybe some atavistic impulses to hit other monkeys with thigh bone.
There will be the womans dream of lots of sex with a high status man, who is ready to commit, and maybe more sex with even higher status men, commitment Love, babies, attention.
There will be sex.
There will be babies.(as a consequence of the sex)
Once pregnancy is confirmed, or once sexual activity is noted or suspected by the parents. they need to consider marrying the two people off.
If you dont have marriage, you have a lot of single mothers, and men denying they are the fathers, so dead babies,
Commitment, is then more important (survivalwise) for women than for men.
Males, will like the people they sleep with more than the ones they dont, although they may desire them more.
single mothers,
Poverty and singlemotherhood are a good recipe for undernourished children, prostitute or beggar mothers. The children of single parents, are more likely to have risky sex, be involved in crime and generally do less well, so you have a vicious circle here.
uncertain parentage,
general irritation,
Lets introduce marriage.
Its a potentially bad deal for everyone.
But
Its a deal that delivers, the essentials.
Its more or less marriage, for raising babies together, man in charge of the world outside, woman in charge of the home, different arrangements for different people.
For the man, marriage, gives access to sex. In a small town with no contraception.
Otherwise sex is not so readily available, or its with less than ideal mates.
For the woman, it gives access to sex, and someone who will provide for her and the babies.
The man gains, an obedient wife, and children, the woman gains, a sexual partner, status, and the means to raise great children to continue the familial gathering of wealth, and increasing inequality.
Downsides, both people are locked into monogamy, and locked to each other,
The woman is subject to the man.
The man, has to provide for himself, his wife, and his children,
The woman is assumed to not be the main provider due to frequent pregnancies and general childrearing duties.
As people marry off, the remaining singles, would hasten to get in on this deal,
Going down by order of desirability.
Fertility for women, Status for men. (or proxies)
The above are merely the primary attributes
Its not great for the guy, he is programmed for sex with lots of people, more fertile the better.
He gets one.
Its not great for the woman, who will be drawn, to other more desirable men, but denied her loins/wombs secret desire, she will be subject to her man, and subject to society, for her adultery would damage every womans reputation by extension, cause every man to gain secret hope.
Her adultery is also a double blow, if she becomes pregnant, she has broken her vows, lied to her husband, and now asks he raise another mans child as his own. Not great.
For the man, well, if its with another mans wife, he hasnt made a friend.
But the pregnancy will be her problem, not his.
This deal, lets smart long term thinking families, reliably accrue wealth, while maintaining a safety net.
There are an interesting series of scenarios.
True love, no problems,
Woman dies in childbirth, man has children, but still status, remarriage is possible.
Man dies in war, or of injury, or of just dying before women in general.
Woman gains house, status as widow, and children.
Woman or man want out, this is very frowned on, the woman leaving her man, will get little, and possibly not the children.
Upsides is that generationally, if wealth defaults with the man not the woman, a family built by men, could continue to accumulate wealth and status over time, helped (and often succeeded by their) by their women.
Lets throw a jaded eye over new marriage.
I guess.
Marriage is no longer the gateway to sex.
(sex is only sometimes the gateway to marriage)
Sex is no longer a certain gateway to children
Children are not a gateway to marriage.
The optimal number of parents is not to be discussed.
Marriage, is dissolvable, by either partner, seperation is half the assets, and the man to continue his support( we have to think of the children.)
There is also a new player, the state.
The state provides money for mothers, and more money for single mothers.
Single mother hood, becomes viable.
Sex without marriage becomes viable, marriage as no longer a requirement for sex becomes devalued.
Sex, no longer fettered by marriage becomes devalued.
We can add in, the attention economy, where in the time of newspapers, there was a newspapers worth of information, books maybe.
Now there are more diversions, accessible, 24/7 catering to every single conceivable wish desire belief, desire or need.
Tinder exists.
Tinder is a killer app for marriage.
It only works for the top 20% of men, the most desired marriage material.
And
All women.
Suddenly, women can have all the sex, and babies, they desire.
With the most desirable men, (well sex certainly, babies depends also on the man)
But commitment, becomes much harder to acquire.
But much more lucrative.
Because marriage is dissolvable in favour of the woman.
She can have a man work for her support,
Then seperate, get half his belongings, and have him continue to work for her support.
This is a good deal, but raises the risk factor for high status men, (their family could lose half its accumulated capital to some hussy golddigger)
She can then theoretically go back on tinder and continue playing the premarriage game, but this time supported by her former husband
The top 20% of men, can play for quite some time.
Some may chip out, ( I know one gentleman, of lucrative means who is paying 3 small fortunes a month to the 3 mothers of his children)
And I should hasten to add, quite rightly.
So then with that board set,
Optimum play for hot men.
Take the free sex, dont marry.
Optimum play for hot women, take the hot sex, try it out, then marry a high status man.
optimum play for less hot women, continue to use sex to get committment and then marriage.
Optimum play for less high status men, get higher status to the point of getting sex, then commit, marry if necessary.
(assuming the objective is to optimize sexual satisfaction, and material gains.)
Women want babies also though I presume (the human races existence strongly suggests this)
So the shortest iteration of the marriage equation.(sans love Im afraid)
2 party game.
Both parties want sex.
Just with different people.
Men, want, sex.
Women, want sex with men who can provide for them in the event of pregnancy,
Or who excite them sexually, or ideally, both.
In a scenario where women and children are valued, they would presumably prefer, the more sexually interesting option, when sex is of most interest to them.
Anyway back to sex.
The women want it with the best.(makes sense to me)
Women being the gatekeepers of sex, women the flame, men the moth so to speak.
If you want to test this, create 2 tinder profiles, one for each gender, of equal attractiveness, and guage the response rates.
Marriage, is and always will be a viable play for high status males, as long as the woman and her family are playing the same game.
The marry, grow the family, accumulate game.
If not as long as the woman
And low status males, as sex is more important than material goods, and a hot girlfriend confers status, ( as does a hot successful boyfriend) (less than a husband)
High status males will do fine, low status males will do less well.
Status being a proxy for the ability to support a wife and child.
Female hotness, is I presume primarily a product of fertility and fitness, and pleasantness, someone who is easy to get along with, and who can replace a mothers love.. (maybe)
Social group is a proxy for support network.
Intelligence works for both groups, mainly as it allows them to correctly analyze the game being played and the optimum play.
Womens and mens intelligences work differently, so different strategies work for both.
On an unrelated note.
Men will always pay for women, on a related note, and we are fine with that we love women, were born of one, raised by one, have siblings nieces, children, loved ones, crushes friends of that gender.
(this is a factual, I think, rather than or albeit, a sexist comment)
In marriage, the man will work more than the woman, because babies.
Pregnancy, and periods. Absent social welfare, this puts the payer, and the payee together.
In modern times, taxes from both genders pay for child support, men still support their women, but also, through their taxes, other women, they support their children and others, this deal is worse for single sexless men, who pay for other mens children,and women, and dont even get laid.
(this argument can be used for all social welfare payments)
If the fair approach of single men and married men, and childless women not being asked to pay for the sins of others. There would be ignorant, angry children, prostitute parents, and street crime.
Well, more of them, I suppose.
Men and women play a game with each other and against each other, with advantages and disadvantages in different areas, historically as now, we work together, for the children and the family.
With changing times will come changing ideas, that will be tested, and kept or discarded depending on their utility.
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