#i dont condone harrassment but i want to get in there SO BAD and go like ‘do you really think this is appropriate? your ex bfs band?’

[hellfireconfessions]

You say that you’re not okay with doxing, yet I have had people call my work, call me, and call the police in my area. You have multiple posts in here making completly false allegations, and still keep up a page made purely to harrass people. Staff wasn’t perfect, but members weren’t either. We were all trying our best to make hellfire a fun place to be. For some people it was, for others is wasn’t, that is clear due to how it all fell down. However, the doxing needs to stop.The false allegations need to stop. At the end of the day, Hellfire was just a server for playing an online dino game. It’s gone. It’s over. Hellfire is dead and it’s not coming back.  If you have evidence of something serious, go to the police. Go to discord to get their discord banned. Don’t call someone’s work or the police just to spread lies. Have some humanity for 5 goddamn seconds and realize that what you are doing can ruin lives. I don’t expect everyone to like me. I expect to get hate for this post. I made mistakes as staff and I made mistakes when playing in hellifire, because I’m human. I just wanted to make a place I loved a better place. The only thing I ask for now is that people leave my personal life alone. I’m sorry to anyone I hurt or upset while I was Staff in hellfire, however this has gone WAY too far. I’m a real person. Not just a name on a screen. 

mod edit: Doxxing DOES need to stop. HOWEVER Im not the one sending people to call your work, call you, or call the police in the area. You can blame me or the blog for it, but end of day that is purely on the people who did it and not me as a person. It takes a certain level of crazy to even want to dox and im sure if not the blog something else wouldve made the individual(s) do it with how the server was going pre-blog. I have always said i do not condone doxxing and all my individual actions support that. You always do this shit man you blame the collective for individuals behaviors you literally always have done that. This page was made because yall as staff constantly failed to listen to the community every time. Yall chose to both make announcements to everyone informing people who had no idea of the situation, and then act like they should make a ticket when the wrong move was first making the announcement (multiple times for different situations Guri just the latest). Reports were handled bad, yall wanted people to make a ticket and for what? is there any player here who has a good experience with tickets? players dont trust the staff because you dont let them speak, and when they go to yall directly through tickets its just oppression tactics. This blog was made because yall gave us no other place to be heard. We didn’t delete Hellfire, Ladyk did when staff finally couldnt time out the backlash. Its crazy that this blog wouldve never happened if people felt comfortable talking in HF. If its in my power to stop a dox, i have and will, and will continue to do so. 

[berrybluu3]

RAMBLES. These are serious, these are untidey, dont nickpick from these, VERY VERY UNTIDY AND DUMPING MY BRAINSLOSH

this is mainly a ramble, not a debate, not anything to add onto or tell me whats right and wrong about such things.

I don't support proshippers, or tolerance because i have a mental condition where i *cannot* tell reality from fiction at times, i dont support it because i find it morally incorrect for me (ex: jaws affect the shark killing rate, witch craft/stories affected the salem trails, a lot of stuff)

i dont support tolerance because most likely those people interact with proshippers which might get on my FYP and cause me trouble

but i will NEVER, go out and harrass a proshipper unless they affect my space, and my friends. I stay in my own bubble, and i will never harrass someone over a different opinion

i am ALWAYS strong on respect people unless its lost. I respect you so respect me, only way to loose it is if youve done hoorible IRL shit. before you question no i don't respect as tradtionally i mean i wouldnt go out of my way to wish someone harm, I'm not an anti- Nor am i nuetral

i have the DNI for MY. Safety, and for MY mental health. I CANNOT tell the difference and i do not want such things reccomended to me. So whenever a proshipper breaks my own bubble (which red alert im a kid) I most likely will block them also FOR THEIR SAFETY too, because i'm not a good nor bad person (not how that shit works either way because no one is truely evil, or truely good) But still, i dont condone harrassment unless they harrass me, or my friends, which i try to stay out of that drama if you're a proshipper, and you have an excuse to still interact with me either way, not caring for my safety online just remember I won't find respect in you anymore

[randombubblegum]

oh my godddd i always forget grace leaked the fandom tracklist and every time i re-remember it i’m just like AHHHH the rage i feel on behalf of awsten is so strong. like your ex girlfriend who is fucking your best friend gets on her livestream to the followers she only has bc shes fucking your best friend and LEAKS THE THING YOUVE PUT SO MUCH WORK INTO FOR X AMOUNT OF MONTHS like i can’t even IMAGINE. to be a fly on the wall during that conversation with awsten and otto after it happened. bc didn’t awsten tweet&delete something right after that was along the lines of “don’t forgive someone on my behalf bc i am still angry” or something??? and like you just KNEW it was bc otto was like “oh bby grace it’s okay honey it was a mistake” while awsten was FUMING

NO BECAUSE ^^^^ ALL OF THIS COSIGNED FR……. it is absolutely INSANE the way she continues to cling to parx for relevance and free clout when awsten has made extremely clear over and over again that he is NOT okay with it and frankly for good fucking reason???? like i am SO FURIOUS on his behalf over this LOL i have my moments where i think awstens out of line but this is not one of them. like gr*ce is a fucking nutjob and i cannot believe shes been allowed to get away with doing this THIS LONG especially when she and everyone else knows damn well what she pulled w otto. imagine not only having to still deal with all that bc shes still fucking the best friend she hooked up with behind your back shes ALSO still clinging to ur work and brand for free clout bc shes too lazy to actually do her own content anymore but cant stand not having attention. sickening.

also DID HE? that sounds super familiar actually im 99% sure ive heard that before……. i wasnt around when it happened but i DO know she immediately tweeted all this like….insanely immature unhinged pity party shit like “you think i fucked up? you hate me? you could never hate me as much as i hate MYSELF” and continued throwing a tantrum until finally deleting her twitter to avoid the heat. el oh el. its especially bad when you remember how SERIOUSLY awsten takes any leaking of his plans or fucking with his info release schedule? like he went absolutely haywire when equal vision leaked entertainment (and dd?) stuff too early. he even put a whole ass FAKE TRACKLIST into the website code for fandom!!!! and then gr*ce comes and does this and fucks with his art she shouldnt even still be mentioning much less trying to attach herself to.

i know some parxies were trying to comfort this grown ass woman telling her it wasnt her fault and everyone makes mistakes blah blah which i assume awstens tweet was about but if it was actually bc of otto…… yeesh. YEESH. i know awsten was absolutely furious like not a joke LIVID over it too. i think otto put his foot down after that and set perhaps SOME boundaries with her bc she never puts him in her lives anymore buuuuut clearly not enough if shes out here in 20fucking22 opening question boxes for new parx teasers like she has any business doing that! :)

[imagine-your-love-story]

Thank you for encouraging a safe space on Tumblr. It might seem like basic courtesy to leave people be, leave them their comfort and creative freedom, but apparently it's not. As someone who has very questionable self ship poly dynamics, it's.. nice not being scared of seeing "Don't interact if this- dont interact if that" and then in danger of harrassment.

Please keep spreading these vibes of comfort and love - you're a great person whom we need a lot more of in the world wide web

You're very welcome, lovely! :) :) :)

Hoo boy. I have...soooo many thoughts on like....ALL of this. And this post is gonna get LONG because I've opened the can of worms and I'm lettin' it all out :P

The amount of bullying and negativity I've seen in the selfshipping community lately is very painful and disappointing to watch. Tumblr and fandom has always been somewhat of a cesspool but I had hoped that selfshipping was a little better.

I'm not seeing a positive community on a large scale right now.

There are some people who are shining little stars out there of course! But there's more hate being spread around than I can stomach.

I've spent Y E A R S researching and unlearning and pushing back against the psychological and emotional effects of manipulative behaviors like: blame, guilt, shame, and harassment.

I absolutely 100000% believe you can speak to people civilly and state your reasons why you think their behavior is damaging. Without telling them, "You are wrong. You are a bad person." Or otherwise making them feel shitty about themselves.

And I also believe that you CAN allow that person to say, "I don't agree with what you're saying" and you can still have normal interactions with that person without immediately shunning them and labeling them as a terrible person.

People BLOSSOM when they are showered in love, acceptance, and understanding. People are MUCH more willing to listen and heed what you have to say when you give them SPACE to see your point of view (or disagree with you and still accept them).

This culture on social media where people jump STRAIGHT to, "You're a HORRIBLE person because you do something I disagree with!" is, frankly, horrifying and a little disgusting.

Does this mean I condone negative and damaging behaviors?

No. Absolutely not.

But there seems to be this loss of perspective on what is considered "negative and damaging behaviors".

1. It's fiction. Fiction has NEVER been "clean". It's a place of freedom to discuss EVERYTHING.

2. You don't have to feel comfortable with everything being discussed in fiction. I'm not. If I don't like a self-shipper's content because it hits some trigger buttons for me...I don't follow their blog. Because that's my boundary and I have every right to it.

Do I send them messages saying, "You're a toxic person!"

Nope.

Do I comment on their ship that they love and say, "This makes me uncomfortable!"

Nope.

It's not my business.

Also: it’s fiction and there are MUCH bigger problems that require my energy than whether or not I should correct someone’s fictional ship.

Go save the ocean.

Go save the rainforest.

Go save the planet you live and breath on.

Fiction should not be making you angry enough to send hate mail to someone else. Full stop. That should never ever be a priority.

3. Some people engage in selfshipping "negative behaviors" as a way to cope with their trauma. We have no idea what a person has been through and we have no right to tell them that they should stop what they're doing when we do not know where they are on their journey of healing.

It hurts my heart so, so much when I receive messages from selfshippers like you, dear anon, who are TERRIFIED to share their love stories with their characters because they're afraid of being labeled/attacked/harassed by the community.

That's the community letting you down. That should NOT be happening and I'm so sorry you're feeling that way, lovely.

The ENTIRE point of selfshipping was to ESCAPE the people who criticized for shipping yourself with a character that you love. The foundation of selfshipping is that ANYTHING is possible!!! You are limitless!!!

And now people are policing what you can do??? That's...that completely obliterates the point of selfshipping. That's WHY we escaped to our own community!

I don't know if this video is available outside of the U.S., but I highly recommend, the Crappy Childhood Fairy's Youtube video on Cancel Culture. It's a great listen when you're navigating the emotional turmoil of social media culture.

So, if you're still reading after ALL OF THAT :P here are some key points about this blog and my philosophy when it comes to selfshipping:

This blog will always be a judgment free zone

Of course I have opinions! Of course we may disagree on something! But I won't judge you for it. You're allowed to do your own thang! ;)

I will never have a DNI.

If I feel an interaction is crossing into territory that isn't appropriate or acceptable, I'll say so. And if that doesn't work, I'll block and report. But I will never have a DNI on this blog.

Yes, I am an adult. So if minors don't feel comfortable following my blog, it's okay if they don't! I understand!

But I don't have a problem talking with minors because they are human beings and they may need support. I worked in Youth Services at a library for over two years. I know sometimes kids just want someone to talk about cool books and movies with and I'm 100% down for that 24/7 :)

Because this blog is all-ages friendly, I will never post 18+ content because - just like IRL - I make sure that I am mindful of the people around me. I may post some suggestive content that is tagged, but I try not to get too explicit.

I also don’t really think a DNI is necessary for me personally. Of course if I feel threatened by someone, I won’t interact with that person. But if a shipper is into content that I don’t like???? I don’t feel the need to say, “I will never interact with you!” That’s....exhausting. Besides, there are plenty of other things we can chat about! :)

I will always share f/os.

I know some people don't like to share and that's their boundary they can draw if they want to (no shade here!), but I've found that if I don't share, it's a very lonely experience. So I always share and I’m happy to interact if we have the same f/o :)

DMs are always open if you need a shoulder to lean on

If you need to dump or vent or whatever, my DMs will always be open so you can chat! It can feel weird, and maybe you'll feel bad because you won't know what to say!!!

That's okay :)

Even if all you want to do is vent and never reply, I'm happy to listen and offer any words of encouragement and support you need to hear! :)

[char-lotteral]

SS fandom went mad because NH got The Last movie, and just went on to attack NH fandom and act superior. Then SS calmed down with the news of the Gaiden featuring their ship. Then went mad again after the Gaiden finished because it didn't picture their ship like they wanted it to be, attacking other ships especially NH for no good reason. If you were there in 2014/2015 you would have seen how toxic SS fandom was towards others it's crazy.

O-O okay wow. I dont want to seem biased with my fandom and I also do not intend on starting ship wars but damn if im being honest, even on twitter you can tell how rabid some of their fans are. These are all my personal experiences and observations so please dont take it seriously :[] I also really wanna share this type of behavior and say that this isnt healthy AT ALL nor is it funny or whatever the fuck some fans intend it to be. No one should go through these lengths for a bunch of pixels.

Say one wrong thing about their ship, you'll most likely get death threats on your cc. A mutual of mine interacted with this big ss account (negative interaction yaddayadda), they stalked her account and got sent death threats. ALSO there was this one time trinity (bkgsbby) held this sort of narutwt confession thingy where you get to post anonymous confessions and it gets posted on her account. There were a ton of negativeity towards SS (also NH) and they were LOSING IT. This one acc fucking ATTACKED TRINITY and called her out for "being biased and only picking the bad stuff for ss boohoo" when none of those confessions were even trinity's😩 Its like youre BANNED from saying anything negative against SS or else they'll come for you. Like really come for you.

Idk but from what ive noticed, they also have this need to compare The Last and Sauce Retsuden, they downplay NH with the same argument "they only fell in love because of genjutsu! Forced ship! Shitty development!" Lol okay, talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Not gonna lie, not one single canon ship in Naruto was developed properly (maybe shikatema but you already knew that) but SS and NH fans calling each other underdeveloped ships will always be COMEDIC GOLD.

For some fucking reason it is illegal to ship sasuhina and or sasunaru over there. Not kidding. Say anything about Sasuke being gay and they'll come for your head. "Sasuke was intimate with Sakura!! Sasuke isn't gay!!!! 😡😡😡" "Sasuke never interacted with Hinata!!! How dare you ship Sasuke with another woman that isnt Sakura😡😡😡😡" Now im not saying this behavior only applies to their fandom, but it's pretty rampant over there. I dont want to seem passive aggressive.

I shit you not, my mutual and I were making these fun little headcanons of Sasuhina and they started popping out of nowhere. They were pissed lmao. "Sasuke doesnt even know Hinata's name wtf"

who CARESSSSSSSS UGHHH

No but whats WORSE, is when this sh artist on twitter was having this ship discourse sh vs ss and they just started calling her art "ugly" and "that it gave off deviantartvibes" and that sasuhina artist was untalented blahbah. Like say whatever the fuck you wanna say about the ficitional characters but attacking real people REAL PEOPLE all because they said something bad about your favorite drawing is low as fuck. Whatever fandom youre from be it ss nh ns sh sns, god knows how many fucking fandoms there are in Naruto, never NEVER attack artists for their art or talent because wtf

They also have this sort of pact with the NS stans just so they could shit on NH, the exact same people who call naruto "an ugly blond orphan" or "third wheel" for their SS ship lmao aight. They'll say anything just to downplay NH for god knows what reason. "Naruino and Narugaa had more chemistry than Naruhina!" "Naruhina had a forced marriage ahAhAha!!" "Sasuke Retsuden>>>>>>>> The Last". Trust me, no one GIVES A FUCK.

If im being honest, theyre one of the main reasons why I hate narutwt so much. They take SS to the heart, they start ganging up and attack any person on sight who shits on their ship with death threats and other harrassments. Its so unhealthy and toxic that they ruin everything for the other fans. Dont do this please. Whatever fandom you come from dont follow this type of behavior. Its perfectly fine to be passionate about something but always draw the line between an obsession and pure enjoyment. Honey, take a break from your phone for a while. Sasuke and Sakura arent real. Theyre not going to pop out of the screen and thank you.

Now i believe there are bad apples in every fandom but from what ive observed in my twt acc (biggest mistake of my life was making one in the first place) their fandom has the most noticeable negativity and toxicity on twitter. Its like when you see these two emojis together 🍅🌸 your first instinct would be to run and you'll be getting war flashbacks or something.

This is on twitter. I dont know any ss stan outside of twitter, im not generalizing the fandom

AND IF YOURE AN NH FAN WHO DOES THAT SAME SHIT, FUCK OFF. I AM NOT CONDONING YOUR BEHVIOR ALL BECAUSE WE LIKE THE SAME THING. GET OUT OF MY SIGHT SCUM *spits in your face*

[sacred-pro-fiction]

Honestly... Some things, groups and communities are exclusionary... And that's okay.

Asexuality excludes people who want/enjoy/feel sex and sexual attraction. Being gay excludes bisexual men, cis women, trans women, people with vaginas, ect. Lesbianism excludes bisexual women, cis men, trans men, people with penis, ect.

Its not a bad thing that an identity or community has a specific definition and a specific set of people that it applies to. Sometimes I feel like our current generation is so obsessed with just blindly accepting anything and everything or on the flipside finding an issue with anything and everything that there's no room for nuance or for coherent, clear thought on some things.

I don't believe in attacking bi-lesbians. At all. I don't believe in harassment, belittlement, lashing out, doxxing, ect. I believe in thoughtful, nuanced, open discussion on what kind of stable ground can be reached with the current discourse or how people can broaden their perspective by actively listening to and considering 'the other side.'

I personally feel there are labels that already encompass exclusive attraction within the SAM and that homo-attraction labels shouldn't be used when a person also experiences attraction to multiple people simultaneously.

But. I'm also not going to go around leaping at the throats of anyone I see identifying with multi and homo-attraction labels as one 'parent' label.

I have... multiple issues with your definition and word choice in the section about what asexuality, gayness, and lesbianism excludes, but I'm going to look over that because I don't have it in me right now.

Its great that you don't condone straight up harrassment of people over labels, I feel like online spaces would be so much better if everyone could at least get on that page.

That said, I think people get way too divisive over labels and their Exact Meaning. If somebody uses a label its because they feel a connection to that community in some way, I dont believe anyone gets to tell them "no your experience doesn't match mine." You can say a bi lesbian isn't the same as an "actual" lesbian because lesbians aren't attracted to men, but they are attracted to women, which is presumably the aspect that said bi lesbian relates to. Maybe they're also attracted to other genders, but no one gets to be an authority on which "side" they're allowed to relate to.

Communities overlap all the time, sexuality and gender are complicated. Sometimes lesbians get married to someone who later comes out as a trans man or a nonbinary person, but remain married and still consider themselves lesbians. No one gets to tell them they aren't actual lesbians or that they don't know what its like to be an Actual Lesbian. That's between that person and their spouse.

People having complicated relationships to one or more communities does nothing to harm or take away from said communities. Its not watering down or diminishing the meaning of the word; what it means to an individual will always be significant. You're never going to find someone in a community who perfectly reflects your exact thoughts and feelings about a label, even if you share the exact same one.

And people are free to not like it. They're free to feel like they can't relate to bi lesbians at all on the basis of bi lesbians not being exclusively attracted to women. But the things I was talking about, where people would draw two women kissing and add "Bi lesbians dont fucking interact" to the description is the thing that stunned me. Like there is literally no reason to be so hostile to people who have complicated/unorthodox labels, but are ultimately not harming anyone. None at all.

[cynthias-heart-and-mind]

PSA Communicaton with Me and Toxicity and how I handle it.

[[Hey there guys, I know how many of you are really tired of seeing posts like these. I have really been trying to keep shit like drama away from my blogs and attempting to handle them priviately instead of publicly. But unfortunately, like Qrow from RWBY, misfortune tends to stick to me the a mcfuckin magnet.

The first part involving communication with me will be out and the part of how I handle toxcitiy and how I recognize toxicity etc will be under read more to save peoples dashes from a dramatically long post.

Alright, communication, it is something I highly value in rp and in friendships. Its what helps clear things up and make the whole experince better.

BUT, Like in rp , ooc talk and chats should both be met with effort and engagement. Meaning the convo shouldnt have to be held up by one personor make them feel left out.

There are times where people need quiet time to themselves or are too busy to speak with everyone. Guess what? Understandable because tumblr rp and the internet shouldnt be your whole life and let it drag you down. And your friends shouldbe able to understand this. 

For my issue here, people complaining that I dont talk to them much after a while. Maybe because you only pay attention when I have something negative going on or im always 100% the one starting the convos and strugglig to keep it up. If you only give me one worded answers or give no effort in the conversation then I assume that you have lost interest.

A litle tip here: try making effort in the coversation, actually start some of the convos. Will be super fantastic!

Also understand that I'm  not on here 24/7, I have two jobs and have to be the one to do most of the chores in my home. Sounds like a broken record everytime these things come up. But yeah, I miss things. Especially if someone posts a vent on their blog and it is deleted or gets buried by posts on my dash after a few hours.

But understand this, YOU CAN VENT TO ME ANY TIME. Like  I wont get pissed, I vent to my friends all the time. You are safe to vent to me. Please. 

On one last note, I have a lot of friends on here that want me to talk with them and all of them want me to tell them when I have something bad happen. I feel like I have so many damn moms! It isnt a bad thing at all but understand my attention is spread to many many people.

[[Alright now for the....ugly and toughest part of this PSA. Toxicity and Drama.

UGGHHHHHH!

Ok, Ok.

So lets start off with this statement, treating me kindly will not blind be to you acting irrationally or horribly to others. Simple, yes? Yet so hard to understand when it comes to toxic people.

But those close to me will agree, I NOTICE EVERYTHING. I am extremely anti-bully. I do not stand or condone trying to bring someone down or ruin their lives just because of the dumbest shit.

For example, the most recent person I blocked would make public posts vauge-harrassing another for being a bit slow witht their replies and convos. Yeah, thats completely insane.

I was sent two anons a few days ago, assumingly from the person whom I blocked, judging on the language used and what the message composed of.

Claiming I am selfish and just love drama. That I toss away friendships like garbage. 

Now I defintely know that those are completely farfetched statements. But I'm  done with people that go as low as sending messages like this. Thinking I'm the villian for just blocking them. Very embarrassing for the sender. Cause it is always heavily baseless.

Why should one person on the internet, that you never even connected with and gave you a second chance, effect you that much? Why must you always be the victim?  Why must everything be a battle?

When it comes to toxic people, they always have a daily panic attack about every single thing. No matter what it is. And if the attention is not on them, they have to make up an elaborate negative story or one up the other person that is recieving the attention.

Or the publicy post that noone cares about them,  they are soooo lonely. 

Yeah..uh.. hm.... seems like something a newbie 13 yr old tumblr idiot would do. And before you say it, do mot claim mental illness is the cause. Mental illness is NEVER EVER the damn cause of acting shitty towards others. That excuse is used far too much to even be considered valid.

Mental illness can be the cause of you being quiet for a while or for your mood drop. But not for acting out against innocent bystanders.

[[Geez this a long ass post]]

All in all , how I handle toxicity is probably the best way to do so. I recognize the toxicity, sometimes I attempt to address it to the other in a civil way. Or if its to the point where it is know thay their behaviour will not change. They will be unfollowed/blocked.

On a last note, I dont love drama, I hate drama to the core. I hate toxic people. I reserve the right to block. I reserve the right to block without notification. 

If I vent to my friends,  I stress that they not personally message or send anons to the other. But if they do so, thats on them. Not on me.

I know who I am.

As a beautiful friend stated: "A dragon does not bother herself with the opinions of a sheep.".

[detecaive]

one more time.. another rules update

I do not get involved in drama if it can be avoided. I have ‘drama //’ and 'callout //’ blacklisted for my own comfort. The only instance in which I, personally, break this rule, is if it involves myself, my friends, or has affected the community or the rpc in a major way. This is ALWAYS tagged.

I do not condone callout culture, but I do approve of callouts if they’re NECESSARY. Read: they’re not over trivial matters, and have substantial evidence as a warning to why [insert name/url here] should be blocked/avoided. In any other instance, I much prefer discussing any issues one on one, rather than going to such drastic measures.

October and this week of November has been complete shit. Not just for me but also for my friends and possibly even for you. I am extremely sorry for my behavior and the state my blog has been for this past month. It has been nothing but personal issues left and right and honestly at this point I am nothing but tired.

If you choose to be friends with Vak, Aku, or even Sonny even after everything that has happened. Go ahead. I'm not here to police you on who you can or cant be friends with. I'm here to develop my writing skills and spend time with my friends and people I consider my family. But if you think that MY FRIENDS are in the wrong and YOUR FRIENDS did nothing and they're right then please dont talk to me. I'm sick of people treating my friends like THEY'RE the abusers in the situation when they're NOT. Take at least five minutes out of your day and read the callouts that have been posted about your so called angel of a friend. If you really want to avoid and ignore every single shitty thing your friends have done to everyone then fine. You do you. Just stay away from me and stay away from my friends.

This will hopefully be my lost post involving this sort of thing for a very long time. Things will hopefully get back to normal and this month and December is more calm and chill for everyone. Again, I'm sorry for those involved and who had to witness everything from a tough spot. Its not your fault things like this happen.

With that said those who were involved or are currently dealing with someone who is harrassing/abusing/threatening/etc them then know I care about you. Talk to someone. It isn't you being petty, it isnt you being whiny, its something that I recommend you get out of as soon as possible for your own safety. Maybe a callout isn't needed. Forget making a callout. Your health and safety is more important than a fucking callout. If you think you and that bad person can talk this out IN PRIVATE then go ahead. But if things don't seem to change then leave. It will do you better in the end than staying with someone who is bound to hurt you again.

[randombubblegum]

Comment 1: My take on song girl is after the Ciara dog girl stuff Awsten probably doesn’t want his gf talking about that stuff online. Not to hide it just don’t be public. When song girl was on twitch years ago she’d have little chats w people & I don’t think she thought this time would be different. At the end of her most recent twitch she went oh. Oh. And her eyes got super wide & I think she realized this was a mistake bc of who was watching & the questions. She hasn’t gone on since.

you make good points in this ask!! lemme go point by point lol

i didnt watch all the way to the end of her twitch stream (got bored) so i didnt see the moment youre talking about but yeah, she did get uncomfortable when people would hint they knew she had a bf. but even after she was CONSTANTLY talking about her bf, dropping hints she was seeing someone, talking about getting on european time for the exact duration awsten was in europe……. i dont think its like an unavoidable compulsion for ppl to talk about their significant others so that was like, a choice she was making in conversation to an audience? like i think she didnt realize people already knew, but also a really poor way to keep something apparently ~top secret~ private lol

also, i have to argue, she kinda is public?? she has an insta which is normal but she also has a twitch, with apparently a decent following/mods/subs/etc. id hardly call that private like you or me, yknow? before awsten she dated another musician, albeit one w a much smaller following, so its not like shes new to the idea of online fanbases i think

all that aside tho, like, i get what youre saying about not meaning to open herself up to scrutiny. i think you have a point and thats rly valid. my main thing, and a core belief i hold thats the reason i do literally any amount of discussion about parx on here: my tumblr is not meant to be viewed by the people im talking about, its NOT easy to find (ive never even typed her real name), and theres zero reason song girl (or dog girl, or awsten, or like literally anyone who knows parx) should know it exists much leas be seeing the things i say about them!!!! i rly dont believe they are. i dont wish this girl any ill will, i dont condone (and have specifically warned yall against) leaving comments or messaging her directly or like trying to make her feel bad/harass her. this is just a little tucked-away gossip corner to note the things she and awsten are making public. i guess i am a little harsh when i talk about her sometimes but really the one im mad at is awsten for treating girls like interchangeable clones lol -_-

but also that shit w your ex—i know EXACTLY what youre talking about and honestly your ex and his friends are assholes lol. without getting into too much detail ive been in that situation in different roles and like, friends of mine have actively unfollowed/cut off other friends for slinging mud about their (not abusive just regular) exes after a breakup. if youre warning people that someones abused you thats one thing but talking shit about your ex and having friends join in just to take them down a peg is shitty childish behavior. and it sucks!!!! so i get why you feel that way. i dont think this situation is the same but i get you lol

basically in summary yeah i think she doesnt know what shes gotten into but thats on awsten for not warning her lol. i dont think us making idle chatter on a tiny internet corner shell never reasonably see (and thus will never feel bad about) is the same as harrassment/bullying/deliberately trying to make her feel bad and thats def not my intention. i also dont care about her specifically but ya i agree w u on the principle of the thing. and no worries ur ask was rly thoughtful i appreciate it!!! :) thanks for expressing a logical opinion in a reasonable way lol i feel u

[piccolozonlyhusband]

1. I can see just fine.

2. Oh? How? Did I force it in their ear and scream at them to believe it? How did I traumatize them. Also if I'm hurting them that bad they should block me.

3. Yeah because I havent Done shit. I've been traumatized by your community and beliefs too. But what do I get? Yelled at. So Im yelling back. It isn't arguing unless theres 2 voices.

4. Nope. We have done some things and Even one in my community traumatized me. But you know what? Thank raid that happened. It messed up me so bad that I have privacy and trust issues with new people and feel like everyone will go against me. So please keep talking about how I'm not a victim when minding my own business and not even interacting with antis at the time. Oh it was also 3 times so I have tripled the amount of trust issues.

5. I do but ok.

6. No. Y'all are literally saying characters that some of us cope with hate us. Saying were all pedos despite our age. Saying well fuck a child when we grow up. Your community fucking threatened my ex gf to the point she broke down. It was a bad rape threat and no. I dont care if it wasn't one of you. Y'all let that shit happen all the time and only freaked out when it was a child. Because it's not like it can trigger rape victims again or anything. ((And Dont come at me with my ships condone it because it doesn't. It only makes me feel in control and rebuild everything to be better))

7. We don't defend the fetishization. We defend the thoughts and coping of ships to suppress urges and trauma.

8. Rapist? Nah castration sounds better. Pedos? What type we talking? Non offending or the ones who do? If the ones who do I think they should be castrated then some painful torture to end them. Non offending? Until they offend they deserve to live.

9. It's not fetishization. Fetishization is when you need something in porn to cum. And you know what? I don't need my ships in porn to cum. So no. It isn't. And I told my family about my ships and thoughts and they said its ok and it's not me but the trauma. So please keep saying that to me.

10. Stop using the word wrong please, thanks. And if they offend they deserve death. Let's say it was fetishization. It's just needed in porn to cum. Kinda disgusting to most but only if it's actually real then that Time is where you lock up people. And we do only if it's fake and not real. Tho I cant speak for everyone.

11. Asked a bunch of people and they said they don't care/just do it safely/what the fuck is a ship.

12.my 11 experiences with your community say otherwise.

13. For what? Oh no, I'm coping and not Harrassing people and doxxing them to black mail them. Also I have and I seem to be helping more then your community has with actual victims. Isn't it Funny how the supposed bad side is helping victims feel comfortable more then your side. The one who wants to teach them they should be killed/do suicide/arrested for their ships.

14. No thats just marginalization and assuming they all offend leading to them doing it because society pushes that idea onto them no matter how hard they try. So no it's not suicide baiting. It's threatening.

Ugh I just saw an anti-anti with a purple Martin as their icon, so:

Purple martins hate pedophiles, necrophiliacs, and zoophiles!

All swallows hate anyone who defends these people

All songbirds hate anyone who thinks it’s okay to fantasize about harming children or animals

All birds hate anti-antis

[piccolozonlyhusband]

If its only fantasies and they don't act it out I believe its ok to cope with ships rather. I'm a CSA victim and still in a abusive situation and I've dealt with sexual trauma for years now. And the most affective way of me not going back at that Path is shipping. I have no therapist. My feelins for adults have lessened and ships helps me not go at any adult for sexual comfort. It even lessened my teliophilia ((minor attraction towards adults)) quite a bit and makes me happy enough to get up and talk about.

Is the idea of it gross? Yes. Does it help? In some cases. Is it immoral? Who cares as long as I'm not directly hurting someone. If someone normalizes pedophilia through my content it isn't my fault. It's their mental health/their heightend gullibility/or parents not checking in. And you know what? It isn't the kids fault. It's the adults. If you Normalize pedophilia so quickly through a fanfic/ship art then your too mentally ill/young and impressionable to be online.

It isn't no ones job to protect childrens eyes and no one else's job to care for them. If a kid search and type by themselves and understand words they probably know pedophilia is bad and if they don't it isn't our job to say tho we should of course.

Stop using ships as this exuse to harrass others and using exuses that literal psychatrist and therapist have proven wrong already. Stop being in a community where you knowingly let this happen and never call out other people In Your community when they actually do something horrible.

Your in a community that doxxed me, a 13 year old, because I shipped something. Do you think I'm joking? I can literally @ someone for the proof if you need it.

Your in a community that Is actually fucking stupid to the point they think you thinking about it makes you want to do it. Your in a community that is so insanely stupid that when they get their own therapist to tell them it's unhealthy to keep blogs such as these they cry about it and say they don't know anything about it.

Fucking listen to us. Why do you think I, no WE ship things? Why. Why do you ship things? It's cute right? Fun, gets you away from reality. Well we do too. It just happens to be more controversial and you all act like you KNOW everything. That were dumb and even when we say "I'm literally a CSA survivor" They say invalidate them, blame them, and even use It against them.

You can hate me all you want all because I ship something techinally pedophilic for my own coping with teliophilia and parent issues and even relate to the child being hurt techinally.

So yes, I do defend those who FANTASIZE raping a child. Because their thoughts. Some pedophiles/maps have ships to cope with their urges so they don't hurt anyone. Just because someone has something wrong with them and urges to do things doesn't mean they'll do them.

If you want to play that game I'll give you another round with it and let's see who hasn't done these things/acted on urges

Have you had the urge to die but didnt try? I have

Have you thought about hurting someone you love/your pets when they make you angry? We all have at some point but not many do it.

Have you thought about murder? Did you do it? I highly doubt it.

Have you thought about taking too many pills? I sure have

Have you thought about self harm? I can almost bet you have

Have you had thought about doing something horrible that no one sane would do? You have. We all have. Unless you are so good, so great, so kind and sweet and never dealt with anything bad in your life to make you feel this then you have. Dont lie.

So yes, I defend fantasies. But I don't condone it in real life.

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I bet you didn't read it all did you?

Ugh I just saw an anti-anti with a purple Martin as their icon, so:

Purple martins hate pedophiles, necrophiliacs, and zoophiles!

All swallows hate anyone who defends these people

All songbirds hate anyone who thinks it’s okay to fantasize about harming children or animals

All birds hate anti-antis