#i actually don't ship destiel

[captainvulcant]

Doing a poll on the Destiel website for science

[castielsprostate]

you just know misha read that take out loud and his face scrunched up and his metal hip creaked and jensen stopped sucking his dick and danneel had to gag

[clowndensation]

wait explain to me the destiel hatred i’m curious what abt it angers u that doesn’t apply to the other two ships

great question! the answer would unfortunately require 3 hours and a powerpoint presentation, so i will try to do a brief summary:

a ship sucking only ever has about 25% to do with the ship itself. destiel is bad in the sense that i think dean winchester is an annoying character that gets treated with kiddie gloves by the narrative, which makes him irritating to see on screen, because i personally dislike it when "men are angry and abusive because they just love too strongly, and don't know how to express it :(" is played straight as a character's primary internal conflict. especially over 15 seasons. it's boring, he's boring, and 35 year old men shouldn't be going to colleges trying to figure out which freshman girls are legal or not. hate him.

however the real sin of destiel, beyond the fact that dean winchester and i have beef that will only ever resolve when i get to reincarnate as the rusty nail that kills him, is that the fans are so so so fucking annoying. like yes the narrative frames dean as a golden boy who can either do no wrong, or "well, i guess he did wrong there, but what about how tortured he is :(" but good god. at least the show isn't trying to convince me that destiel is some groundbreaking lifechanging love story, complete with "omg this moment" montages where they romanticize scenes that feature dean either insulting, threatening, or humiliating cas. like this entire show (post season 5) is dean chronically either infantillizing and attempting to keep cas under his control, or holding him up as the only person he can rely on, thus giving cas expectations that are impossible to fulfill.

and don't get me wrong! people can like a shitty person and a fucked up ship. that's basically everything i enjoy on here. but at least like. acknowledge it. aldfkjalka. and if you're gonna like a shitty person and a fucked up ship, at least write about it in an interesting way. 90% of fic and posts written about destiel aren't even about destiel as presented in canon, they're about two generic men with generic personalities who suffer from the world's most generic tropey problems. cookie cutter ass basic relationship. the high school au of ships. boring.

[scarecrowisms]

im so glad that i found sam-centric tumblr first and that i am actively forming my own opinions about the show instead of falling into the trap of destiel

[barisiscourtroom]

wow. way to disrespect my wishes, anon.

normally i would have answered an ask like that, it was anti Rollins but not violently hateful, but since you clearly sent it as a response to me asking people NOT to send me Rollins hate, i will not.

and going forward, i will not answer to anything anti Rollins.

i still don't ship Rollisi, i still think she's not perfect and that she has fucked up, but i also know that that's the point, no one is perfect, as these shows constantly shove down our throats.

so while i previously could entertain some wanky salt sessions where i went a bit anti Rollins, going forward it'll only make me think of hateful assholes like you. the kind that makes fandom a less fun place to be. the kind that never respects other people's wishes because you have an opinion and it's more important than anything else that you get to say it, regardless of the consequences. to take another fandom as an example: the kind of people that has made me hate Destiel to the point where i get annoyed 98% of the time i see anything Destiel, because some of the hellers are so fucking disgusting (and loud) in their hate towards anything they deem icky (ie: anything that isn't their ship. ie: Wincest and Sam, two of my favorite things).

and i'm not doing that. this blog probably wouldn't have been a great place for Rollisi shippers and Rollins fans, not the worst but not great, but after you, anon? they'll be fine here. because i refuse to indulge in your disgusting hate campaign.

[ladyluscinia]

People using a lot of words to restate the exact ridiculous points of my meme while explaining to me how I'm using the meme wrong because their Blessed Kingdom is blessed for reals and our Barbarous Wastes are tragically actually barbarous they are certain

[freakwiththeknifecollection]

Ship names are being appropriated nowadays and it makes it really difficult to actually find ship content because people are putting platonic stuff in the ship tag

[tsukiyo-7]

This seems like a good place to express my Sastiel+Destiel headcanon that is basically just an endless circle of suffering in which Cas is in unrequited love with Dean and Sam is in unrequited love with Cas and everyone is sad but powering through it.

[confuzzledsometimes]

i thought destiel was some prediction event that shipped putin with us president

[destiel-wings]

Are you incapable of making your own post? Why did you add on to that poor persons Merlin post when they dont care about Destiel? And youre too lazy to make your own gifs lol okay. Please dont add on to posts that arent yours. So fucking lazy and annoying.

Hey, if you're the op who made the post, I sincerely apologize. If you don't want that kind of addition i can delete it, no problem.

I love merthur and i love destiel too, and I added that scene from spn to make a comparison between the two ships. It wasn't meant to take anything away from the original post, but my intention was to give it a new light in addition (as people do on this site) by drawing a parallel with another piece of media. A lot of destiel fans love merthur too and i thought the op could get more reblogs and likes on their gif this way (reaching another fandom too).

I know how to make my own posts, I did plenty of them, actually.

What i don't know how to do is gifs, and i have deep appreciation for people who make them, and it is my understanding that they like exposure for their posts, so that their hard work can reach more people.

This is why i reblogged it.

My tags on the reblog were about both ships, i didn't deviate from the original post ignoring it to only talk about another ship (which would've been rude), so i didn't think it could be offensive in any way.

[book-addicted-thing]

ok is it just me or is cockles a really weird ship? like, not sure if you noticed, but I'm pretty sure Misha and Jensen are uncomfortable with being shipped. their characters are one thing, but themselves? if I was being shipped with one of my best friends I'd be really awkward. not to mention, they're both married?? it's like people still shipping Frerard. it's just weird. be respectful of other people, famous or not.

[highprofilerichkid]

OFMDs, while I find your pathetic clownery to be even more intolerable than the rank vitriol of my Stucky fandom nemeses, I have to put my personal aggravation aside to offer you, along with my MSR besties, my most sincere congratulations on achieving what is objectively the funniest possible outcome for this round. You eliminated THE top two unquestioned juggernaut patron ships of this entire cursed website in their first matchups, and I honestly couldn't have asked for a better outcome. I cannot stand those fucking pirates but god bless. Love and peace on planet Tumblr ✌️

AO3 Top Relationships Bracket- Round 2 Side 1

This poll is a celebration of fandom history; we're aware that there are certain issues with many of the listed pairings and sources, but they are a part of that history. Please do not take this as an endorsement, and refrain from harassment.

[televisionenjoyer]

I think the biggest tragedy that the House MD Renaissance brought to this website is people thinking that House MD was pulling off anywhere near the same level of queerbating and psychological manipulation to its audience that Supernatural was doing. Like my brother was on the House MD fandom and the idea of canonical hilson was mostly laughable and at best a joke they'd play on fans once in a while. Supernatural literally had a meta episode in which a Supernatural themed play took place and it, this is a direct quote, "explored the nature of destiel". Like the actual word DESTIEL was spoken in the show and addressed. Like actual Dean Winchester IN SHOW had to deal with the fact that teenage girls shipped him with the angel Castiel. AND THIS ACTUALLY HAPPENED ON TELEVISION. the girlies would have to sit there put on season 10 and watch the term destiel be dropped as like a huuuge wink to the audience like heh. I know you guys are digging this. And then they went on for another five seasons of the most ambiguous character interactions while fans theorized on and on and how x thing could mean destiel is going canon and y thing could mean destiel is finally going canon. Like. Why lamp and whatnot. Then they ACTUALLY WENT AND DID IT. they had their whole audience on the edge of their seats, for the best of 12 years, played for absolute fools, only to be told that they were right all along but actually they don't get to have this. Anyways unparalleled media experience.

[chiisana-sukima]

nine people i want to get to know better

Thank you for the tag, @slutsons-blog! Starting a new post because I'm autistic and therefore mostly only care about the "Current Obsession" question, and want to ramble excessively as usual in that one.

Last song: Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Red Rescue Team: Pokemon Square because I'm currently playing Pokemon Mystery Dungeon with my daughter. Otherwise I honestly couldn't tell you. Whatever was on in my car.

Fave color: Purple

Currently watching: Star Trek Discovery

Last movie: Knives Out

Sweet/spicy/savory: Sweet, tart, salty

Relationship: married x 27 years

Last thing I googled: the word "dependent", for spelling assistance. which is a good thing because I spelled it "dependant".

Current Obsession: it's been spn since 2016. Truly we are the Hotel California of media franchises. I did recently play Disco Elysium twice in a row in quick succession, and I follow the DE tag. I can't recommend the game highly enough.... but I can feel my Special Interest-level obsession with it fading already. Spn has never faded even a tiny bit and I wonder if it ever will.

@slutsons-blog I feel after reading that you're watching spn for the first time, that I did you a bit of a disservice with my Sam takes to you before in that I mostly talked about Sam's evolution as a character as the show goes on and very little about him from the first five seasons.

Gotta be honest and tell you that although I liked both brothers all along, I was a Dean girl until the end of s6/beginning of s7, when the balance of who gets whumped the most started shifting and my subconscious suddenly decided to switch allegiances. It's not that I liked Dean any less; my id just loves a sopping wet pathetic kitten of a man who has been sexually abused, and Sam got suddenly way more kitteny and pathetic after the Cage. So I don't actually have a ton of takes on "what to love about Sam in the early seasons". I do love early seasons Sam too--she is my beautiful baby princess--but my early seasons takes are a lot more inchoate.

I count myself lucky about my id's sudden defection though, because I think we have limited control of who our blorbos are, and having Dean as a blorbo is a tough row to hoe as the later seasons go along. You know how you noticed that in s6, Dean suddenly gets a lot more assholey without apparent reason? Unfortunately he never gets better again, and in fact keeps getting worse and worse as the years go by, until by the last seasons he is openly far more abusive to their joint child(-in-an-adult body) than John was to him and Sam. It's a realistic picture of what can happen when trauma keeps piling up on people, but it's also honestly pretty distressing, especially if he's your blorbo.

If one is in it for the ship, there's some good destiel content in the later seasons, but if you're in it for Dean, you're left either 1) dealing with the fact he's got extremely significant interpersonal problems that he never gets much of anywhere on solving and that negatively impact his chosen family in profound ways, or 2) pretending he's the same character he was in s1 and Sam is the same Sam from s1, only more boring, and Dean is just trying to put up with him because he was brainwashed by John (or ig 3- something in the middle between those two. But that seldom seems to happen in practice for whatever reason). These two versions of the show are poorly compatible, and that's how the Sam girls and the Dean girls end up in isolated silos. A few people manage to live in both, but not many.

Anyway, I feel like without the context of how Sam and Dean change in the mid to late seasons, the two fics I recc'd as Sam character studies are going to seem insanely Dean-critical, so if you haven't read them yet, you might want to wait until s10. In the meantime, the general recs are fun reads and hopefully do a good job of showcasing both characters earlier on.

Tagging (but I would be a huge hypocrite if I didn't specify there's no pressure to respond, since I almost always fail at responding to tag games myself): @adihildilid @aliusfrater @quietwingsinthesky @sammygender @ardentpoop

@peanutbutterandbananasandwichs @schizosamwincester @normalbrothershow @jellybracelet.

[ahurston]

Is Crowley and Aziraphale's central issue truly miscommunication? Because it really sounded like Aziraphale genuinely thought Crowley would jump at the chance to be an angel again, and that indicates such a fundamental misjudgment of who Crowley is as a person that I don't know how they get past it?

In so many ships, the characters just need to get trapped in an elevator for long enough to actually have an honest conversation, and it would solve all their problems (looking at you, Destiel). But for Aziraphale and Crowley, this breakdown means something more than a simple conversation could correct. It means something about how Aziraphale makes sense of their shared history, how he perceives Crowley's worth as a demon in comparison to his own as an angel, and what he understands to be the roadblock standing in the way of them being truly together.

Crowley named that roadblock as he sees it - the structures of heaven and hell themselves ("We don't need heaven, we don't need hell, they're toxic!"). But for Aziraphale, that roadblock appears to be Crowley's demon-ness, which he sees as extricable from Crowley himself (which it isn't). His roadblock is Crowley himself. And if that's the case, that's not a miscommunication, that's a tragedy.

[deancasforcutie]

Months later and revelations Fox did limit 9-1-1 like CW did SPN and people seemingly split down the middle about which of that show's ships is endgame canon (not like it matters representation-wise because -once again!- queer is queer whether it's "the story you wanted" or not) this all bears repeating. Because the people with the world's dumbest most realityproof persecution complex against the very writers who fight for queer content will once again draw 1000 on bootlicking by defining that content's legitimacy by its corporate approval rather than develop any kind of meaningful praxis about The Motherfucking Fight and how it works, up to how "winning" the rigged game (Fuck You I've Got Mine™) is no way to beat it because the silenced voices you're siding with corporate censors against also deserved to speak and still do as much as the Survivors you're Biased toward just because their higher-winning gamble toward the same goal is what allows them to speak

One of many things that keep me up at night about the network fuckery: how many other shows are/would be subject to these same kinds of homophobic restrictions, but we would never know because they didn’t try to push back? How many other shows accused of queerbaiting were actually silenced?