#i actually do ship naruto and hinata tho
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#I actually do ship Naruto and Hinata tho#they’re cute❤️#and Shikamaru and Temari#but I always loved the relationship between shikamaru and naruto#WHO SAYS WE CANT HAVE MULTIPLE SHIPS THAT DONT FIT WITH EACH OTHER AT ALL#they’re two different universes in my brain❤️#also hate ALL the Kakashi ships I mentioned in the post#he is their TEACHER#AND A LOT OLDER#naruto#naruto shippuden#naruto uzumaki#shikamaru#shikamaru nara#shikanaru
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I love how sakura and hinata fans say sns shippers are misogynists for not liking those girls and the ships when really I think me being a man-hating-radical-feminist is what makes me not like them lol. Like I have self respect which is why I don't like someone who's entire purpose is to be a man worshipping housewife from the 1950s with no backbone and doesn't stand up for herself at all (hinata) or someone who's pretty much a male in female form who mimics real creepy male behaviour to a T like constantly harassing someone and trying to force them to like you back despite constant rejects, treating them like a sexual object only, centering yourself around their life and not even actually caring about someone they claim to love (sakura). Also if you take it a step further, I can even say the reason sasuke's my favourite character is bc he's female-coded. Like almost every way he gets treated both by the narrative and by real fans is how a lot of ppl treat real women. (think they know better for him, hating him for being attractive and able to get anyone's attention, hating him for having agency and not caring what ppl think, not caring to follow paths others want him to follow, etc) these are all things that most women get hated on for irl. It also says a lot that most of his haters are male lol, while other male characters with the "coolness" factor like sasuke are still worshipped (like his own brother, kakashi, even naruto). Also gaara getting more popular after he started worshipping naruto and leaving his cool backstory and interesting character behind also proves my point. If sasuke just became a naruto fanboy halfway thru and didn't bother with his revenge and only started loving naruto (not romantically tho, ofc, bc that's gay and we're alpha males who fuck bitches only 😤) he prolly wouldn't be as hated. Just like if sakura switched her affections from sasuke to naruto halfway thru, the dudebros would stop hating her. It's all about naruto worship, and the characters who end up doing that always end up being the shell of the interesting characters they once were (like gaara, hinata was never an interesting character, she's the only one who was meant to be his cock worshipper since the beginning) and that's what makes me hate all dudebros and some female fans who think this too. Like sometimes I start hating naruto myself bc some of the sasuke only stans on tumblr make really good points about how naruto's basically a male power fantasy series. Almost everyone ends up worshipping him, and even sasuke (if you wanna see it that way) ends up doing that. I personally like equal power in relationships so I like to see them as equal in the end, but some ppl who only wanna see their self insert incel mc be worshipped, they can see it that way. Sometimes I only like naruto in sns and sasuke individually, and hate everything else about this series. Anyway that got kinda off topic but yeah.
Sakura also does not stand up for herself when it comes to Sasuke.
Hinata's body language is always timid, but Sakura's becomes one too in the presence of Sasuke. Because she tries to make Sasuke like her, but since she doesn't understand Sasuke she also doesn't understand this is not what Sasuke wants nor needs. Sasuke wouldn't like it either if Naruto acted this pathetic.
Hinata is literally a tradwife dream, she is docile, submissive, doting and her only goal in life is to support Naruto and become Naruto's girlfriend/wife and have his kids. She has no thoughts about anything else. This is what many men want from a woman. It's really pitiful to read/watch people try to come up with something in order to make Hinata look like a decent character. It all comes down to "she liked Naruto since the beginning", "she sacrificed herself for Naruto", "she has had more kids than the other female characters".
I don't know about the use of "female-coded" as a term (I talked about it at one point), I think it's the homoeroticism that largely contributes to this (especially how Sasuke is made to be desirable to both men and women). But I do see where you're coming from. Sasuke does piss off many men but a lot of it is due to incel mentality. Some of it is due to main character entitlement, as in Sasuke takes too big of a chunk out of the manga when it comes to screentime. Ironically, there are many of them who think Sasuke should have been a female character so Naruto's obsession with him wouldn't make them so uncomfortable.
I also find it annoying when so many Sakura videos I watch have men ranting about how Sakura still likes Sasuke despite the fact Naruto saved her. Like you can tell they think a man should be able to buy woman's sexual interest by making her owe them. But thankfully, I have come across also videos that make very good points about her character.
Naruto and Sasuke's fight (or more like the aftermath) annoyed some men because it was physically basically a draw and Naruto even said to Sasuke "this isn't about winning or losing". Sasuke lost to his feelings, basically him admitting defeat was him accepting to be loved by Naruto LMAO no wonder dudebros were mad. Many of them whined because they hated how Kishi had to make it so gay.
Shonen tends to be a male power fantasy. Luffy also gets everyone to fanboy/fangirl him. And shonen mcs usually have one of the worst stans for this reason. It's funny (or not) how the same pattern can be seen in every shonen fandom when it comes to the main character. There are men who self insert into them and act like everything needs to be about them, and bash other characters especially if they take even a little from their mc. Meanwhile there is a subset of women who create this yaoi harem shit around the mc, him as feminine uke bottom that every other guy just wants to rail. And they also might wrote posts on how other characters are irrelevant and boring compared to their beloved mc. It always happens. If it makes you feel better, Naruto always saw Sasuke and Iruka as different from the rest, because he didn't need to prove anything to them, they just cared for him even when he was a loser. And to Naruto, Sasuke is the best in the world. Even to Sarada he started ranting how Sasuke is hot and cool and the best shinobi in the world lol. But yes, I think Gaara and Neji lost some edge of their characters after they were saved by Naruto.
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I'm curious now - why / what do you like about Inoue and Renji ?
Well...
I liked Ori from the start. She was cute, bubbly, & pretty with a likable personality & potential to be a cool character, what with her powers & dreams.
I started shipping her with Ishida in the SS arc, as their interactions were cute. They actually had a good bond, he protected her & she ended up trying to protect him in her own way in the Fullbring arc & was concerned for him in TYBW.
Then in the HM arc, I also started shipping her with Ulquiorra, whom she had amazing chemistry with. Unlike everyone else who mostly babied her (& was mostly indifferent like Ichigo 💀), he challenged her, found her fascinating & believed her to be a strong woman. She finally showed some of her mental strength & further potential to do something important to the overall story; she kept saying she wanted to become stronger, right? I was hoping this would finally be it, that we would finally see her become the character she could be (when she had saved Tatsuki, i was like, "Ok, we're getting somewhere. Hope we see more of this." I was waiting for it...)
However, that turned out to not be so. 😮💨 It was also in the HM arc where I started to truly find her exasperating as well. This is the arc that should've solidified that IH do NOT work together. Some of her worst moments happened here & the prelude to it. Her rather cringey confession to, & attempted kiss on an unconscious Ichigo, choosing to say goodbye to him (whom she barely knew) instead of her best friend Tatsuki, her lack of backbone against Loly & Menoly & then healing them to top it off (absolute insanity, I could not believe her. Who the hell cares what Grimmjow did to them? Have some respect for yourself, girl!), fearing Ichigo while he fought Grimmjow for Rukia & having little Nel have to push her to snap out of it... and then her worst moment: her breakdown at the dome when she begged an unconscious Ichigo to save her.
My God, this was the first time I found her unbelievably annoying & couldn't believe her. This should've been the moment as the secondary heroine of the series, where she should've stood up in the face of danger. A moment where any female character worth her salt would've shown her resilience. Rukia, even when powerless, had shown us this. Ichigo's sisters showed us as well in the first chapter. (Ppl sure love to compare Ori to Hinata from Naruto, but one of their MAIN differences is that my girl Hinata did what NO ONE ELSE did—not even the main heroine—& threw herself in the face of danger to help Naruto against Pain, despite how much stronger her foe was, confessed to a conscious Naruto, & her sacrifice led Naruto to gain 6 Fox Tails to defeat Pain—and mind u, Naruto subconsciously led the fight away from her 👀. The first person he thought of when he regained consciousness was her & he cried in relief that he didn't harm her nor others. What she did meant a lot to him).
But alas... Ori disappointed me greatly here. I insist, what happened at the dome should've solidified for everyone that IH do NOT work together. Ichigo's Hollow was protecting Ichigo, not anyone else (face-planted Ori & stabbed Ishida who was trying to protect her. He would've killed them had it not been for Ulquiorra). It wasn't an IH moment; anyone who thinks that severely lacks reading comprehension. Ichigo felt sickened by what he did, not feeling like a victor at all (and it wasn't until he talked to Rukia again a bit later that he felt a bit better).
(Imagine if Ori had stood up against Ulquiorra, arms spread out to protect Ichigo, & he stopped before her in shock & might've told her to move but she resisted, then he questioned her & they started talking & she pleaded for him to stop this & Ulquiorra became more curious &— Like, would he have genuinely hurt her, tho? He ended up protecting her from Vasto Lorde Ichigo, whom she feared, while she showed NO fear of Ulquiorra in their farewell scene... )
Honestly, Ori's best moments in this arc, her only good moments, were with Ulquiorra. He should've lived & I stand by it. While I like IshiHime & wish they had ended up together, had Ulquiorra returned, I would've given a solemn salute to Ishida & eagerly boarded the UlquiHime train. Unlike with IshiHime, I actually engage with UH fan content so... 🙃
Unfortunately, Ori only got worse from here. Her ongoing silly crush on Ichigo was even more exasperating; I was hoping she'd have finally gotten over him after the dome (heck, I'd been hoping she'd get over him since the SS arc). She did not do anything amazing in the Fullbring arc, only regressed, & same in TYBW. Kub0 just didn't seem to care to develop her, despite her potential with her powers & early personality. She will forever be one of the characters with the most wasted potential to me.
Ori was just too pitiful around Ichigo. She was not at her best around him. And Ichigo was certainly not at his best around her. Because of that horrendous ending that only solidified Ori's lack of character development & bad writing, I'm not interested in engaging with her solo content. Only UH & sometimes IshH content 🤷♀️. I understand the criticisms towards her character & agree with several, tho some ppl do take it a little too far imo. I also have a post here where I similarly rant about her character a bit. There is also an amazing analysis & theory of her role in the story here & my added opinion.
About Renji (sorry I ranted about Ori, lol), I didn't like him at first, as he was introduced as an unlikable villain who was trying to obstruct Ichigo from saving Rukia. He changed for the better after he got humbled by Ichigo & became a good friend & ally (& also showed support for IR 🫢). So, I like him because of that. I'm not a fan of him & stuff, tho. I dislike RR, tho not as much as IH; it's mostly just "meh" to me.
So yeah, sorry for the long rant. Hope this answers your question!
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Boruto!!! How are you liking it, how did you like it??
I'm gonna say something Sooo controversial and yet sooooo brave,
Im actually enjoying Boruto a lot! I mean I get people are angry, and uhh honestly I don't understand why but maybe that's cuz Im not too hung up.
I mean i'd even go so far as to say im finding it silly and funny and enjoyable. Boruto is a nice enough protagonist and Naruto's making regualr appearences and Sasuke also and Sakura, and I Like Sarada! She is also awesome.
And Mitsuki! And Shikadai! AND HIMAWARI!
WE EVEN GOT KAKASHI AND IRUKA! MY BELOVEDS!
So yeah.
I do agree that SS and NH are ships that don't seem to be in love tho.
Like Ik Naruto loves his kids and he likes hinata (But that's it tho, he likes her, don't rlly get them romantic vibes from them yanno?)
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I’ve seen a lot of people saying NaruSaku would’ve been a better endgame ship and would’ve lived up to Kushina’s words about finding someone like her and that their kids would’ve been stronger, and these are the same people who ship BoruSara, but, like, you wouldn’t have Boruto and Sarada if it wasn’t for NaruHina and SasuSaku.
NaruSaku wouldn't be a good couple and their kids wouldn't even rival NaruHina's kids' strength. here's why:
Sakura's kids are always weak (yes, I'm starting with this first so I can get it out of the way):
the only thing Sakura can really pass on is her strength, as we see Sarada using it quite often. But her chakra control and Medical Ninjutsu can't, which makes Sarada look pathetic in eyes of some fans for not being able to achieve Medical Ninjutsu even tho her mom's one of the greatest (at this point, Wasabi or Mitsuki might unlock the Byakugo Seal because they're the best at it) Sakura has no Kekkei Genkai and we've never seen her use Ninjutsu (I know she has the chakra natures for it, but never actually uses it). so she can't really pass on something that she doesn't have or never uses.
2. Kushina's words:
Kushina's words were never about finding someone like her (personality wise), but like her (deep down).
people say Hinata wasn't fit to be with Naruto 'cause she wasn't like Kushina, but those people were thinking personality wise.
in reality, Sakura was the first person to come his way, because he only liked her because she was cute. she was literally introduced that way.
Kushina never wanted Naruto to marry someone who has the same personality as her, but someone who is like her. literally, all Sakura and Kushina have in common is their hair colors are different from normal shinobis, they were picked on for their insecurities, and they're hot-headed. Hinata, however, has many similarities.
they both care about Naruto
they've protected him with their lives
Hinata was the first person to believe in him after his parents
Hinata was willing to give her own life for Naruto's safety, TWICE, as Kushina did.
Hinata helped him when he needed it the most as did Kushina when he met her for the first time
now we move onto way the ship wouldn’t work itself:
Naruto questioned when Sakura called herself beautiful:
here, Naruto questions Sakura when she calls herself "lovely ninja maiden". if he was so smitten with her, you think he'd question her nickname and not her teaching? yeah, I think so. even if he loved her SO MUCH, he wouldn't questioned, he'd agree.
2. Naruto has never complimented Sakura as a lover should:
in Naruto, not once has Naruto complimented Sakura's appearance. Inari, who barely got to know her and only got to know her for one arc, complimented her as soon as he saw her, yet why not Naruto...? only once he has, but that's when he introduced Sakura. even after their reunion, he said she looked exactly the same.
heck, he even claimed that Haku, a BOY, looked cuter than Sakura.
3. Sakura hits Naruto too much:
Sakura hits Naruto too much. if they had of gotten married, it would be an abusive one (Sakura abusing Naruto). I understand she cares about him and he cares about her, I really do, but there's still A LOT more panels of her hitting him more than her caring about him. but there's a limit of pics a post, and I have much more to add and I don't want Sakura hitting Naruto to take up all the pic space. and not to mention, there's still the anime fillers. I understand that it's supposed to be comic relief, yet there's no need to go that hard. she leaves bruises or bumps on the places she hits, whereas everyone else don't even leave a mark. I understand that it could be because of her being a Medical Ninja and her strength is more than a normal humans, yet she does it too hard, KNOWING it's gonna leave a bump. even Tsunade (who has only hit him at least once) has not left a mark on Naruto and her strength is GREATER than Sakura's. that just shows that she hits him too hard.
and even if they got married, it'll still be an abusive relationship because Sakura hasn't stopped hitting Naruto, even through timeskip. her kids, too, would suffer the abuse of their mother and fear for their lives.
4. they don’t understand each other on a deeper level:
now, Naruto married Hinata because they understand each other on a deeper level than anyone else (other than Shikamaru). she understands his pain and loneliness.
he never understood Sakura's pain and she never made an effort to understand his.
you may argue that because she was his teammate, she'd understand him the most because they went through Hell together. but the only people who understand Naruto on a deep deep level is Hinata and Shikamaru. not even Sasuke and Gaara (the ones confirmed to be his closest friends other than Shikamaru).
5. Naruto doesn’t except Sakura’s crush on Sasuke in part 1:
in original Naruto, Naruto tried everything to make sure Sakura falls out of love with Sasuke and in love with him. he never got to understand why she loves him or never really understood why he himself loved her. he even tried making her think Sasuke was a jerk by transforming into him.
I feel like if he had of ended up with Sakura and never realized his feelings for Hinata, it would be a loveless marriage and Naruto would've turned out as a spoiled brat, because he "won" his childhood lover.
6. The confession:
finally, the infamous confession that ruined Sakura for most of the fandom. honestly, I didn't think the Sakura hate could get any worst, yet this is just... it ruined Sakura for me.
like, Sakura seems okay with playing with Naruto's feelings. she KNOWS he likes her, Sai even confirmed it with BOTH him and her, yet she's reallly okay with hurting him and playing him for the fool?
not to mention, she KNEW about Hinata's feelings ever since the Pain arc, probably even before that because she's told Naruto that Hinata had been watching him all the way back in part 1, so she probably knew from there. was she really okay with playing with her boy best friend's feelings and betraying one of her best friends? she didn't even bother to check with Hinata about it. if Naruto had of said yes, do you think she would've had the nerve to walk in front of Hinata on Naruto's arm? no.
I don't think Hinata even knows of it. goes to show how little it meant to both Naruto and Sakura since they never bothered to mention it to Naruto's own WIFE.
but yeah, Naruto's head over heels in love with Sakura that he is totally in a loveless marriage with someone he finds weird because the girl he really loved is in a different marriage.
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Fucks dog shit somehow my first tired got deleted because why the fuck not? Anyways this rant will get me a supreme deluxe banner for being homophobic, sexist and misogynie because that's what happens when you hate on a female character that someone likes even tho I defended the fuck out of others. genius farmer genius
Now isn't that pure retardation to blame Sasuke like that? Well tell that to the bitches who hate who hate Hinata on that because Neji chose to be a good brother and give his life to save his sister. Look I don't care who should die because they shouldn't (It should be Temari... I have a hate Bonner huh.). Sorry for my vulgar language but I just saw some guy saying that konan should be the heroine and the one to suck Naruto's dick. Mate she is literally shallow as fucking water, all I remember her doing is sucking off Yahiko and Nagato just having Hinata's supportive mentality but to an extreme level. Look konan is great but she's just Hinata without the critical thinking part, she fucking let Nagato kill Jiraiya would Hinata let Naruto kill Asuma's wife (Forgot how to write her name it's kureina right?) and for good lord TenTen stans need to shut up about how great she is. For fucks sake her 'Fight' with Temari is filler, she doesn't have anything I mean anything she's utterly useless just masturbating materiel for some horny bastard if anything Kureina Hinata should have gotten more screentime with Sakura because they are actually interesting with good powers, fucking Kureina is a mistress for Giratina's sake who managed to hold off Itachi only if for a few seconds that's dope as shit but because Kishimoto wanted to kill off Asuma he needed to make her pregnant (I have no probs with housewife but the problem with Kishi is he wasted a lot of good characters for Uchiha glazing and building up the villains and Naruto's conflict with villians, all I am saying is that Naruto ended before it should and I blame the manga industry because of how fucking overworked they are I am glad he at least finished the damn story bro couldn't go to his friends weddings for fucks sake that's sad as fuck)
My view on SasuHina is that I've seen NtR hentai with better reasoning for cheating than Hinata choosing Sasuke over Naruto , I sacrificed my soul to Giratina and read one and the pure character assassination for Naruto is gross, and the reviews Naruto as a stupid lesser fuck you are gross plz grow up and get laid because I can't with your shut you disgusting fucks. Naruto is not an idiot, you are.
And good lore NaruSaku is a pile of dog shit with the generic boring shonen couple that sucks ass and should die in a fire, if you want to have a nation turned to rubble let Naruto and Sakura date because they will fight t'ill eternity and end up breaking up because they are more like siblings than fucking lovers.
And don't get me on those who screech "CHEMISTRY" when they fucking ship ShikaTema which is the worst example of chemistry, the only Shikamaru that can even satisfy Temari is adult who's a workaholic not the lazy bum kid, just like how the only Hinata that can satisfy Naruto is the brave Hinata who isn't a crybaby , and the only Sasuke that can date Sakura is the aloof tame Sasuke who isn't a maniac, you know people fucking change you sick stupid fuck, you won't me to believe that Naruto will marry the girl who doesn't understand why he still wants to save her love over the girl who understands him and picks him when he's lost and slap sense to him. And you want me to believe that Sakura will marry the guy who didn't even pick up on her worries over the guy who did and encouraged her?
Limey shit is so fucking atrocious I'd rather be HIV positive than stay on the god forsaken app , only YouTube and shit posting is better than dealing with fucks who don't understand how characters should work. I miss when common sense was still a thing because what the fuck. And don't start me on the gay shippers because they have the worst case of main character syndrome and exposing their shit will definitely get me suspended because of hate crime on the LGBT community and name me a supreme deluxe Homophobic straight dude which is somehow their worst enemy.
My final saying is fuck you sns because you singlehandedly ruined the Naruto fandom for ever with all your fucking stupidity and retardation Naruto is my favorite manga and my favorite character and you singlehandedly ruined him because you all are pieces of shit who lack any sense of critical thinking.
This is me if I ever meet a singe fuck of you:
jesus christ bro who hurt you.......if it's reddit fans i heavily suggest to to stop interacting with them
honestly speaking majority of naruto fandom just has a hate boner to reading the manga properly.....which sucks tbh
or else this shit ton of hinat and sakura hate wouldn't exist
sasuhina.......wenever talk about it, it's cursed i've seen shippers think they are anakin and padme i hate it
narusaku was the first plan but then it was dropped because kishi realized naruto needed to have chemistry with hinata.....they made sense
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Ask meme huh??? Okay.
- Sai
- Kisame
- Kiba
this ask game
i will do kisame on a different ask i got of just him so this one is a bit shorter :3
sai
favourite thing about them?
HE’S GENUINELY SO FUNNYYYYYY he always has me cracking uppp and i love his (lack of) facial expressions….. sai your autistic swagger has me in your clutches
least favourite thing about them?
this is actually pretty hard…? like i even forgive him for talking shit on sasuke cause it’s funny that he wanted to bully naruto a bit ✋😂 i guess i wish he had more importance throughout the war arc and not for just that 🤏🤏 little bit in the beginning
favourite line?
i think this interaction ✋😂
brOTP?
sai and yamato 😭😭 two former root ninja.. imagine the bond they would have had if naruto were good….
OTP?
mm i don’t actually ship sai with anyone !
nOTP?
i guess naruto/sai ? just cause i’m like… naruto is far too obsessed with sasuke he could not give any other man an ounce of his attention…
random headcanon?
he probably does like some kinda deep dive into finding out as much as he can about people he’s interested in… which likely creeps out others but he’s doing it out of a sweet place in his heart.. he wants to know about them to show he cares and is interested in them.
unpopular opinion?
i don’t really know what opinions on sai are popular/unpopular… i think he deserves more recognition in general from like the fandom.. i think he’s genuinely one of the best characters between how funny he is, how cool his ninjutsu is and his personality and backstory…. he’s a very good character and i feel he’s rather glossed over
song i associate with them?
love stuck by mother mother
favourite picture of them?
i like to use this as a reaction image tbh.. i love sending it to people..
(VERY close second is this one tho)
kiba
favourite thing about them?
i like his design !! specially in classic i like his hoodie a lot but i do also like the leather jacket in shippuden. also his facial markings just look cool
least favourite thing about them?
hmm i think his one sided rivalry with naruto is kinda annoying.. that he wants to beat naruto so bad for.. whatever reason… i just think he needs to move onto something else that *he* wants.. not what naruto wants
favourite line?
i don’t remember exactly how it goes but when he’s fighting ukon and he stabs himself and says smth like “die with me” or smth like that
brOTP?
i loooove team 8 sm.. so kiba shino and hinata
OTP?
i don’t really ship him with anyone
nOTP?
naruto/kiba
random headcanon?
he smells so badddd T.T like he literally complains when other ppl smell bad but i know that boy is stanky
unpopular opinion?
idrk if it’s unpopular cause i don’t involve myself in any kiba conversation really lol but i think had he actually wanted to progress for himself and his relationship with akamaru he could’ve done a lot better and gotten so much further rather than wanting to so he can catch up to/be better than naruto…
song i associate with them?
this is basic cause i don’t really think of kiba enough to find a song specifically for him but.. smells likw teen spirit by nirvana ig ?
favourite picture of them?
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ooooo I'll jump on the nana crossover idea! What are your thoughts about it?
Okay first, taste!!!!
And to be honest, I find Nana soooooooooo much better written than a lot of the popular animangas like naruto. I love how the female characters are fleshed out and have actual flaws, the relationship dynamics, the reality of how toxic some relationships can be, and the dialogue?? *chef’s kiss* Like seriously, the plot may not be adventurous or mysterious, but the characters are so interesting? And don’t get me started on the heartbreak!! Nana x Hachi is my overall favorite ship, but I do like Nana x Ren and I’m still not digesting that Nobu x Hachi breakup 😭😭😭😭
And again, I really love how flawed the female characters are! My problem with female characters in most animes, including the new anime out rn, is that a lot of female characters are very one dimensional. Like before it used to be the damsel in distress/love interest trope, and now its characters whose only trait is being a ‘badass’ yet they’re still getting their asses kicked in major fights and get saved by the male hero. So an anime like Nana, where the female characters are filled with depth AND are the main characters, is so refreshing, especially for someone who doesn’t really read shoujo that much either.
Like for example, a character like Nana is pretty popular in other medias cause theyre usually that tough, cold female character, with a secret heart of gold. The mysterious types who always have their guards up until the end and their character flaw tends to be “traumatized or grew up in a terrible environment so now she’s all introverted and snarky to most people” (like raven from teen titans and artemis from young justice. love them, but kinda tired of how most ppl think all well written female characters must be written like them). But what makes Nana unique for me is that she’s selfish, insecure, and controlling.
Same with hachi. Another character trope popular in manga. The sweet, naive girly girl who tends to be the one dimensional primary love interest/damsel in distress for the main hero (orihime from bleach and hinata from naruto). While Hachi is very naive and is prone to falling in love very quick (more like the idea of falling in love), I love how she isn’t written to be 100% all sweet and sugar and nice girl who’s saving herself for marriage with her one true love (that one guy she likes in high school). She’s shallow, self-centered, and emotionally dependent on her love interests, junko, and nana.
Bonus points to womanhood being a main theme here, especially with two female characters who are the opposites of each other in their personality, fashion, background, etc.
I love to think about one of the homra guys, maybe someone like chitose, gets everyone hooked on nana lol. Like he probably overheard a lot of his f*ck buddies and random girls on the streets keep talking about some nana show, so he looks it up and at first loses interest when he realizes its shoujo, but then gets a little curious and wants to know what the hype is (and he lowkey finds the girls hot). So he brings it up to the other guys when they’re all chilling in the bar one day and obviously a lot of them are like, “fuck no, we’re not watching that girly shit” but then totsuka gets interested and he manages to get everyone to sit around the tv and watch the show lol (except for anna since totsuka did some research and found out that there are implied sexual scenes and mature topics). At first, the guys are annoyed at being forced to watch the show (a good chunk of them glaring at Chitose for bringing the topic up), but then suddenly they’re all incredibly invested by like ep 3. A lot of the boys probably talk about which Nana is better or more of their type at first, but then they all probably start shipping the two Nanas and god damn just f*cking kiss her already!!! Not gonna lie tho, I do think some of them are gonna hate on Hachi for leaving Nobu :/ They’re definitely going to sympathize with Nobu, but I just know some of them (Chitose) are probably gonna be like ‘thats what happens when you’re a simp’ 🙄 Overall, I do think most of them will be extremely sad/depressed once they reach the end of the show, not realizing how much this show and its characters impacted them lol
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Hello again! (This is the same anon who asked what ship was endgame)
I’ll definitely continue to read Team Harmony! The writings too good for me to not, and honestly? The way your currently writing Sasuke and Hinata and their romance/puppy love/jealousy little thing (I DONT KNOW HOW TO DESCRIBE IT IM SORRY) is making me not hate it, I think it’s actually kinda cute (Itahina for LIFE tho).
I’d love to read literally any CRUMB of Itahina from you though like- I am STARVED for quality Itahina fics, plus, I just love the way you write.
ALSO - If you don’t mind, I’ll probably pop down to your Tumblr asks for a chat about Your fics and just Naruto fics in general if that’s cool with ya, and I’ll sign off using the same little reference thingy so you know it’s me! (I AM AWKWARD AND DONT KNOW HOW TO CASUALLY DO STUFF SO IM BEING DIRECT BECAUSE OTHERWISE I FEEL LIKE A WEIRDO. ALSO PLEASE FEEL FREE TO BE LIKE “YO DONT DO THAT/DONT POP UP IN MY ASKS”)
-Your Obedient Reader (That was a Hamilton reference-)
I'm so glad this is helping you like the ship a little more! I've been trying to keep some canon stuff about Sasuke while also accounting for how the changed timeline would affect him as a person! He still has anger issues that stem from feelings of inadequacy, but his more tolerable as he still has a support system.
I'd love to talk fics and so on! I don't mind you sending any asks or messages even, so don't worry about that :)
I'd probably write an in-universe Itahina fic in the future, if anything but my specialty has always been AU, so writing a story like Team Harmony is a first for me in all the years I've been writing fanfic.
Speaking of Hamilton, I actually finally recently saw that! I really enjoyed it <3
-hina
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You’re like the only Naruro blog I follow and none of my friends have read Naruto so please I must share my thoughts with someone ;-; So I’m at about chapter 300 of the Naruto manga and this is the first time I’ve actually consumed any canon content of the series despite having dipped my toes into the fandom content before. I have a few things to get off my chest. One, I don’t really get why the fandom HATES Sakura so much. Yes, in OG Naruto, she is generally useless, but more so bc she was so sidelined completely. Her first fight against the puppet dude in Shippuden was genuinely so fun to read, and she’s actually so strong, more than I thought just based on what I’d heard prior to reading the manga!! The worst parts about the mangaka’s writing really come out when she has to deal with her feelings for Sasuke, the damsel in distress trope hits horrifying new levels of awful. If the romance hadn’t existed, I think she could have been such a better character, because then the mangaka wouldn’t have to add his such shit writing of women outside of punch heal heal medical ninja™️. (Although I will say, I do love her friendship with Naruto and I think that was written great!) Like I really do like her character but the writing is just so bad sometimes. Secondly, Sasuke. Kinda. Unbearable. I know he’s out for revenge and all that, and that he has a redemption later on but for now🥲 I can’t stand him I’m sorry 🥲. 2 edgy 4 m3. And right now, he’s kinda just. genuinely stupid. And I can’t take it. This is totally just a personal thing tho, I get that it’s a part of his character arc. Finally, I sorta get the impression that the fandom (not on tumblr but in general) really take their interpretation of characters to the extreme, and have the most one dimensional view of characters. For example, Tsunade genuinely seems like an awesome Hokage, is one of Naruto’s biggest supporters, and all the fandom sees is her boobs. Sakura is “useless” and “evil” for not returning Naruto’s feelings. They think Sasuke is a cool edgy deuteragonist who can do no wrong despite doing so many things wrong. “He tried to kill Sakura? Good!! She was useless anyway!!” So many of my views of the characters has been completely flipped on its head now that I’m actually reading the series. My view of the characters before I started reading was so skewed by an awful fandom. I really did believe that Sakura was useless, and that Hinata was somehow a better character????? And that Sasuke was actually justified in what he did, and that Tsunade was a bad hokage, to name a few. Makes me feel so stupid that I just believed it. Anyway, thats my rant! I hope this isn’t too negative or anything, but people sometimes praise this series like it’s the peak writing of all time, when there’s issues like blatant sexism (just to name one) within the writing itself and the fandom. I am really enjoying the series right now and am looking forward to what happens next!
:SCREAMS AND CLAPS VERY LOUDLY: YEAH YEAH YEAH
The women in Nar/uto are done dirty BOTH by Kish/imoto and a fair proportion of the fandom. I understand why some parts of the fandom venerate Sak/ura to make up for this and act like she was written amazingly, but I gotta admit, I find that annoying as well jhfjfgjdgjf.
Tsu/nade is honestly one of the few women in Nar/uto who I genuinely love to watch! I love that she's allowed to be messy and drunken and a gambler, but she's also got a strong head for politics, and she's amazing on the battlefield. And honestly, who better to run a country than someone who can run a hospital??? You need a similar mentality, lolololol. Like, yeah, she makes some poor decisions! As does every leader in the history of ever. But she's fun to watch and this is fantasy, so that's what counts!
Her obvious love and care for Nar/uto and Kon/oha are so sweet. The forehead kiss got me all kinds of soft. What a badass granny! I also shamelessly shipped her and Shi/zune even as a kid, shhhhh
I think I love certain interpretations of fanon!Sak/ura a lot more than canon!Sa/kura - she does have INCREDIBLE moments in the show, which I adore, and she's allowed to be both physically strong and emotionally vulnerable, which is awesome. But so much of her arc centres on Sas/uke, the edgelord who I was mildly obsessed with when I first watched at 13, but now just see as your average... well, 16/17 yo EDGELORD, and it makes me roll my eyes up into the stratosphere. The ending of her arc will never not make me cringe. Especially since she has her bangs back... like... kish/imoto... mmm. I think I'm maddest that she has SUCH POTENTIAL to be an amazing character, and it wasn't really tapped into - it felt like she was constantly sidelined to focus on the boys' arcs.
As for Sas/uke himself... A lot of his fans will happily ignore every awful thing he does just because he absolutely has a point about Kon/oha being terrible and needing reform (am I still pissed about how very little of importance changed in Bor/uto??? maybe so.... put the fucking frontline fighting age up to 18 at least, jfc). Like - don't get me wrong! I love that he does terrible things! I think he deserves to be a little bit unhinged, and it kinda suits his character as, again a 16/17 yo edgelord. That's just what they're like. But he's very much an Ends Justify The Means guy and I can't take anyone seriously who argues that a vengeful, bloodthirsty child becoming dictator of all ninjalands would've been the better option, actually.
THANK YOU FOR RANTING, I love to hear it!
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Debunking some SS Delusions
Okay so I was reading a post by @carmenserenity123456 and I was amazed by some points a SS fan made to sail her ship, which just showed their poor reading comprehension. But this is in fact a general idea that all SS fans share so, here we go.
1- Because S´+S had a baby that means they love each other. They always argue with us about if we know how babies are made. Of course, babies are made bc of sex -one of the ways nowadays tho-
Saying a couple who has a child is happy and love each other JUST BECAUSE they had that child is a big ass fallacy, and shows poor knowledge about the world. Having a kid can be proof that that couple had sex ( in most cases) but it's not a symbol of happiness at all, not even in anime, not in tv shows, not in movies. Want an example? Gendo Ikari.
2-SS fans try to justify Sakura's poor knowledge about Sasuke past and history, saying that Sasuke's past is just his past, and she "respects" it. Well no, she doesnt even respect it because she is not interested in it. No interest is not the same as showing respect.
And it's important, absolutely important, to know your life's partner past, because that past is what made that person till that day and all those days coming, and that you will spend by your side. Also, learning about someone's past comes with understanding, something SHE WAS NEVER ABLE TO understand Sasuke. So from this point, this ship starts sinking because she never showed a single piece of understanding him. If that was the case, she wouldn't think the only way to "stop" him was killing him or pretending her so-called Love was going to stop his pain and battle against Naruto.
She doesnt know anything about his past, his family, his ideals, ideology, pain, loss, his feelings for Naruto (however you like to call them) and especially she doesn't know ANYTHING about Itachi, or the path he had to go through. Saying Sakura respects Sasuke is a fallacy as big as a house, and saying she just doesnt want to know about his past is a red flag too, from sasuke side who didnt share about his memories with his "wife" and from her not wanting to actually more about the person who is the father of her child, at least.
2- When Sarada stopped Ino from greeting Sasuke, i dont know how they cannot see this. Who in the fuck will tell Sarada about this more than Sakura? Sai, Temari, Shikamaru??? Even her fans to these days still continue on fighting SaiIno for god knows what reason. And also that behaviour from sarada was a copycat from her mother, exactly..
3-That person justifies Sakura behaviour with Sarada, saying Sakura is a human. Of course she is a human, but that's not a way to treat your kid, especially with the great strength she has, she destroyed the damn house. Do you SS peeps think this is okay? If your so hated Hinata does the gentle push to Boruto, i bet your ass you would condemn her, and it's fine. But please. Maybe its acceptable if she slapped Sarada, nonetheless Sarada was asking something absolutely true about her origins. And yes sakura behaviour is human, but human is not the same as justifiable.
Gendo Ikari was also a human, Shou Tucker was also human, and a i can go on.
Justifying Sakura stupid and childish behaviour with her daughter, using -as an abuser- her great strenght just to show superiority and make her child shut up, is human yes, and it's dangerous. Dont use that poor excuse, you fools.
4-Say that Sakura has nothing to show off about getting Sasuke duck because back in the day when they were 12 he SAID TO EVERYONE HOW SMART SHE IS¿¿¿¿¿¿ Okay so this is bad reading comprehension at all, and it's delusion and basically imagining something that didnt happen. I think you know what pannel we are talking about but Sasuke just told to her, he didnt say it out loud, he just said in a tone that she and naruto could hear, that she was good at genjutsu. For example, Rock lee said out loud that he liked Sakura, in front of everyone so they can hear it.
And SS said that, when Ino hugged Sasuke it showed how humble Sakura is, because she could say to Ino she had no chance because Sasuke praised her¿¿¿¿¿¿ If Sasuke actually praised her, she would say it and she would fangirl over the place, she got depressed when he told her to train because she was worse than Naruto, how do you think she would react if he praised her? She is a person who is hungry for any word that comes from Sasuke. So basically she didn't take that as praise or a show of love because in fact IT WASN´T.
And last, "Having a child is a decision" aka means Sasuke and Sakura had sex and made love so they could have Sarada because they love each other so much and a bunch of 699 manga chapters supports them.
No dear, this is not 100% true. You can have a child without expecting it, just come to Latin America, and also that doesn't mean at all child= love. Just go and read some victorian novels, asian dramas, or whatever media, when they have a kid bc of that is what society expects from them.
The Gaiden manga shows how kids can be made bc of an experiment and how they can clone themselves, and how Orochimaru can even "make" children with his lab. A very appropriate theme for a very insecure ship, if Kishimoto wanted them to go lovey-dovey about how they made sarada, then this topic about having kids by almost artificial insemination, wasn't the best move. Also, showing her love-rival actually having her umbilical cord instead of the proper mother, making her love rival assist her, and in fact make the kid actually look like her love-rival (cof cof an uzumaki) is a very bad joke, and If i were and SS i wouldnt be happy at all with this.
And last but no least, Sasuke never said he loved sakura. SS says he said he loves her to sarada. Well no, Sarada actually asked her father if he loves her mother and if they are connected. Sasuke only answered the last part of the question, saying they are connected because of her. And sorry but this is very common divorced-couple behaviour.
If you actually love your couple, you have no problems to say it out loud. He never said those words, not to anyone in canon, and yes I include Naruto here. Someones would say, its not necessary to say i love you because he loves her anyway, well he doesnt even show it. If you dont have the guts to say those words you can demonstrate it, well he never did it, nor in that gaiden even. As for divorced couples, they behave like these ones, some couples just stay this way "together" for the sake of the child. Because in fact, as Sasuke said "We are connected because of you" the only thing that they have in common is that kid, and no a kid is not enough to maintain a couple.
PD: i didnt even have to mention Naruto here lol
PD1: No dont come here NH , I hate your byakugan-soulless princess too.
PD2: I wrote this by my perspective of psychology student, so at least i know what i'm talkng about
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luffy asta and gaara for the ask game
Luffy:
• Favorite thing about them
Everything??
I love how he matures subtly across the story. He doesnt make any major changes but he slowly becomes a more serious person/better leader without losing his goofiness and his cheerful attitude. I love that he never wavers on his conviction, how he is okay with dying pursuing his dream with no regrets
• Least favorite thing about them
I really cant think of something lmaoooo
• Favorite line
His speech to arlong where he says he cant do anything without his crew, "sogeking, shoot down that flag", him telling big mom and kaido that he will beat them, and so many others
Also "Will you betray me?" "No" "alright" JZHSNZJSU
• Brotp
His friendship with nami and zoro is sooooooo special to me, but really his friendship with all the straw hats (including Vivi!!!) Is great, he has a different dynamic with each of them and thats really sweet. Outside of them, he and koby are cute i like them
• Otp
Zoro :) i also like to think sanji loves luffy (because of whole cake island) but zoro is the number one to me. I think they are soulmates (the "heroes share their meat/booze" parallel is soulmate behavior)
• Notp
Nami (besties vibes only)
• Random headcanon
He has met dragon but he doesnt care about his father at all
• Unpopular opinion
I don't think i have one
• Song i associate with him
Cant think of something right now
• Favorite picture of them
Nika Luffy is everything
Asta:
• Favorite thing about them
Hes so genuine. He really says whatevers on his mind and he is so straightforward with his feelings. I like that hes a very simple guy with a clear goal who knows what he wants and doesnt let nothing stop him, how he gives everything he does his all and is so earnest, a real hard worker
• Least favorite thing about them
He is too pushy with the nun and i know thats kinda in character but i think it should have been dropped already
• Favorite line
God its been like a year since i watched black clover i cant really remember any line in specific? I liked when he told noelle that her magic was amazing when they met :)
• Brotp
Yuno. I know people ship them because they are rivals and all but i really can only see them as brothers
• Otp
I actually think him and noelle would be very cute together <3
• Notp
Yuno for the reason above
• Random headcanon
He has learned to bake some stuff with charmy
• Unpopular opinion
I dont mind the yelling that much
• Song i associate with him
Nothing comes to mind
• Favorite picture of them
:D
Gaara:
• Favorite thing about them
I think his total change from "murderous demon child" to "does gardening as a hobby and is ninja president" is really funny. I like how much he wants to be a better person (even tho ofc it wasnt his fault he turned out like that) and how hes healing from his trauma and making friends <3
• Least favorite thing about them
I think his character arc should have been less abrupt. I dont think he should have been kazekage either, it should have been temari
• Favorite line
I dont remember, i know theres several *scenes* that i like but i cant think of any specific lines. When he tries to reach out to sasuke, maybe
• Brotp
Throwing a curveball and saying he and hinata should have been friends and funded the Naruto Fanclub. Him and neji would have gotten along too
• Otp
Naruto or Lee, the classic ones hehe. Naruto friendzoned him tho so Lee takes the win lol
• Notp
I dont have one
• Random headcanon
He plays shogi with shikamaru when he visits the shikatema household or they go to the sand village
• Unpopular opinion
I dont think i have one
• Song i associate with him
Uhmm nope, nothing
• Favorite picture of them
Why is he upside down? Because he wants to make a cool entrance ofc
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For 10+ years I've been from one fandom to another, seen more than dozen of crack, doomed, one-sided, toxic and/or dysfunctional ships. Yet I've never seen a fandom like Naruto's that just cant be normal about those things. It's like half of fandom people's brain got stuck developing in some teen years, like caged animals that got unleashed. As a bypassing person who loves exploring characters,dynamics and both problematic and non problematic themes in meta and fics it makes me uncomfortable that vast majority of folks can't use rational thinking and look at things objectively. Tbh I sometimes hope they're younger than 16 and would know better one day.
Shipping wars, stan culture, lack of reasoning, projection onto characters - yes none of that is exclusive for Naruto fandom but this one seems to be lasting for years and years and in no sign of slowing down (likely due to Boruto and gaidens). Also this idea that 'x did nothing wrong' and ' x is an <insert> icon' is so damaging, there's no character who did no wrong ever or had no flaws, especially about Sasuke, Sakura, Itachi, Hinata, Konoha in general ect. Things are most often than not gray, not b/w. If you say so you get eaten alive and actually if you say anything (even state the canon) you'd get burnt like a witch and in that way it's both tale telling and ironic that this has to be sent on anon.
Hmm. I feel you. I haven't been in this fandom for very long, less than a year actually. Even so, I have observed the patterns in this fandom, as a result of various interactions and consumption of content.
This is my first fandom experience, even though my work and interests have a lot to do with media. I think it was fated that someone like me who puts a lot of effort in staying away from unnecessary complications in life, would one day get invested in Naruto fandom of all the fandoms. And like you said, Naruto fandom is just... unbelievably complex and aggravating. So many fans have so many opinions about so many things, most of them come from projection of oneself and not an objective outlook, whether it's about shipping, narrative, characterization, idea of politics, relationships, friendship, love, nationalistic values, historical context, cultural aspects or understanding of visual language and text.
People don't want to even listen. Not even to facts. I have interacted with many shippers and fans who just won't subject themselves to rational thinking or logic, even if they are otherwise capable of it, no matter how you appeal to their senses - facts, comparative analysis, appeal to emotion, text, nothing works.
I think it's hugely because Naruto universe features and breeds so many diversely controversial and even contradictory messages, those who are emotionally young, suffice and even enjoy themselves with what appears on the surface. Like you said, I also wish deeply that they are young, so that at least there is a chance for them to grow up and see things differently.
I won't deny for a minute that there are many problematic themes, ideas and their very problematic 'resolutions' or lack thereof, in the story of Naruto and Shippuden.
The whole - Is Sasuke good or evil, did Naruto do right by his core ideals, is Konoha accountable for its actions, was Tobirama in the right or wrong, was Hiruzen right or wrong, did the Uchiha clan deserve what they got, were Hyuugas in the right or wrong, was it right to keep the truth of massacre under wraps etc etc.
I usually keep away from talking about the more political themes in Naruto on my blog because honestly I don't want this blog to become a source of negativity in my online life. That isn't the purpose of this blog and I have enough trouble with Sakura and Hinata stans. But I am just bowled over by some of the takes in this fandom. Especially about politics, the notion of a village, a nation, Itachi, Sasuke and Naruto. However, since my readers send me asks about it, sometimes I talk about it. Mostly I don't. I keep those discussions for Twitter and Facebook, about actual real life events.
Most of these takes are just.... unbelievable. I wonder how people come to such conclusions without any context and information, and it's even more disheartening to see how many people agree with such takes. And these are heavy themes, important themes. They say so much about a person and their belief systems.
A lot of time I think fans just don't wanna admit they could be mistaken. Sometimes I have an inkling that they might know in their hearts they are wrong but they don't wanna look that way to their peers. Fandoms act like any other community where fake news and bad takes travel faster than truth or reason and get established as the truth, despite evidence to the opposite. Take NH and SS stans. The moment you analyse their ships, they will bring the same four panels they always do that shows Sasuke blushing or leaves flying. You put a hundred other panels and text and subtext and nuances, and you will get zilch. Nada. They will abuse you, and disappear.
I didn't have any experience of fandoms but I honestly thought they were about sharing ideas, generating content and community building. But a lot of times, they aren't. Even with subsets in a given fandom, I had imagined fandoms as a concatenation of these subsets. But no, they are completely divorced from each other, there's hardly any common ground. They can't even agree on the most basic themes that a blind person can see.
A lot of fans also don't understand causality in characters. I don't like those takes that try to prove Sasuke did wrong or Naruto did wrong. Especially with Sasuke, because the way his character is written in the story, he already has a lot going against him. The way he is established through his own actions and resultant response of other characters towards him. The way Kakashi or Sakura or other Konoha shinobis would talk about him. Kishi actually tries to show repeatedly why Sasuke did what he did, his actions cannot be thought of in black and white, like you said. But would I say, he did wrong? Just like that? Just that simply? No. Is there cause and effect in what he does and how he does it? Absolutely. So would I attach value judgment to his actions willy nilly? I won't. Same with Naruto, although I will agree that some of it is just bad or rushed writing. Kishi has a certain pattern of writing arcs and narratives, like he talks in his interviews, and it becomes clear to a perceptive reader when he isn't doing justice to his own themes.
But I can see that not everyone understands these themes or examine their resolutions with an unprejudiced head. And that's okay. All I try is to encourage or avail, at least on this blog, a dialectic.
I have come to understand that all fandoms have their faults, and having interacted with veteran bloggers and fans here, I also understand Naruto is one of the worst fandoms out there.
All I am hoping to do here is encourage healthy dialogues. It's so easy to despair over what's wrong with this fandom, and I do it all the time. Heh. I also give my frustration a vent by generating sharp or sassy content. It helps sometimes.
But just like you said, sometimes it's very disappointing and demoralising to see whatever else goes on in here.
I am hoping to generate some more content, and maybe widen my ambit of discussions a bit more. Talking of issues that I usually keep away from. Since media (and our takes on it) is a reflection of our lives. Let's hope to have more healthy and productive dialogues, without prejudice and preconceived notions.
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REWRITING NARUTO ROMANCES SO THEY DONT SUCK
We all know that the romance in Naruto is trash and Kishimoto himself admitted to not knowing how to write female characters and getting embarrassed by romantic scenes…so let’s fix that shit
part 1: NaruHina
(I wrote this down as my notes for the post but I actually like it this way so I’m just copy and paste my raw thoughts lol if you get offended you can write a letter to your local congressman, prime minister, or whoever rules over provinces in other countries)
First let’s shit on the original ship shall we
Naruhina…
- what the fuck was the build up to this relationship
- “I respect naruto and I want to be like him! But I’m too shy to talk to him! I even fainted when I saw him after the blank period! JK I HAVE MEGA HUGE BALLS AND CONFRONTED PAIN TO SAVE NARUTO!!!! Confessed my love and got my ass kicked….then didn’t speak to him until the fourth great ninja war and now we’re married with two kids” what the Fuck
- Also can we just talk about how after Hinata confessed her love…and literally almost died for naruto…he didn’t say SHIT to her after he defeated pain, and it was like she never confessed in the first place Lmfao
- He still liked Sakura! But Sakura always loved Sasuke so wtf
- He even was like “YEAH YEAH” when Minuto asked if Sakura was his girlfriend during the war. Then ten minutes later he’s holding hands with hinata and their love and shit (ft the rest of the ASF) and going up against fucking madara obito whatever… what the fuck
- AND THEN BAM THEY GET MARRIED AWWWWWWWWBWBWBWBLEEHHHH
- It makes no sense bro—people say Sasuke never shows his love for Sakura,…to me, naruto never gave a shit about Hinata, at least not romantically (he literally acted like her existence was forgotten for 3/4s of the show; at least Sasuke always acknowledged Sakura from the start)
- It also feels like narutos crush on Sakura was never resolved (I know that they’re supposed to be shown realizing that they aren’t into each other in The Last but…bro isn’t that way too fuckin late to make sense lmfao) He just suddenly shacked up with Hinata???? Bc her cousin died….Idk man that’s kinda fucked up lmfao
So let’s fucking fix this shitshow
- I get that Hinata is shy and stuff but that bitch is a fucking hyuga SHE IS POWERFUL SO GIVE HER MORE SCREENTIME KICKING ASS
- And can we??? Give her more lines in the first part???? Other than “n…n…naruto….” “N-naruto?” “Naruto!” Like wtf was that dude that shit was way more annoying to me than anything.
- We all know Hinata has thoughts feelings and opinions (as humans do) so let’s have her voice them sometimes okay
- Being shy doesn’t automatically make you mostly mute and constantly stuttering
- That stereotype makes me want to crush skulls bro
- Can we give her some balls before pains fight bc that made no sense
- Like maybe standing up to neji even a little bit and defending herself more during the chuunin exams
- I’m not saying she has to be like “HEY SHITHEAD IM GONNA KICK YOUR ASS” bc that’s totally out of character but she totally could’ve been like “Hey you’re kinda wrong and pls show me respect as a member of your clan and an equal leaf shinobi”
- Also I get that Hinata was inspired by naruto but can we stop making every female character’s rise to power and want to be stronger related to a dude?
- Like fine if she was inspired by him but I think it would’ve been way more of a credit Hinata as a person if naruto simply REMINDED her of that part of herself that’s dedicated to proving her family wrong
- I’m just gonna write this as if it happened this way
- She keeps par with Neji, and does ultimate lose but it makes Neji see that Hinata is actually strong and a formidable opponent
- No more shit eating grins from that ego maniac
- And after Hinata battles Neji, she confronts naruto and thanks him for reminding her of her inner strength
- Naruto, who’s surprised that Hinata is talking to him, is like “yeah, sure thing, hinata. You did great!”
- And that opens the door for their real friendship
- Hinata is someone naruto can confide in about Sasuke, and he trusts her
- Hinata becomes someone that gives naruto compassionate advice, and he cherishes her comforting nature
- Then in part 2 after they’re all a bit older, naruto is kinda like “o” when he sees that Hinata has come into her wOmaNhOoD and he’s attracted to her.
- During the blank period he worked through his feelings and realized he only liked Sakura bc of his rivalry with Sasuke. End of that crap
- But naruto is dense as fuck and doesn’t see Hinata in a romantic way until she stands up for him against pain
- Hinata holds her own against pain for a bit bc she’s powerful in her own right but does get her ass beat anyway bc yk rinnegan and everything
- Naruto loses his shit seeing her cut down in front of him and defeats the last pain
- After naruto gives one of his MOTIVATIONAL SPEECHES and changes nagato before his death, the entire village greets him as a hero
- Instead of Sakura running up to him to hug him in that strangely intimate way that’s out of character bc she doesn’t fucking like him that way
- Sakura gives naruto a good hug and is like “you did it buddy you’re pretty cool ig”
- Then naruto talks to Hinata bc she??? Confessed her love? And took a massive beating for him???
- And they start a sort of flirty relationship where they both like each other but like waaaay too much is going on to actually date
- Like they try to between pains assault and the five mage summit but with the news of Sasukes massive downfall and the bounty on his head naruto is like dude I can’t do this rn
- And Hinata is cool so ofc she understands even tho she’s a bit sad
- And during the war when minato asks if Sakura is narutos girlfriend he says “😅 no dad, we’re just good friends”
- Then he holds hands with Hinata and the village and sings kumbaya to kick the fuck out of madara obito
- Then they get married and shit proceeds as normal
- Except in boruto when everyone returns from the battle in the other dimension she doesn’t run up to naruto first okay she hugs her SON and says “thank goodness you’re safe!” And then hugs naruto and thanks him for his work
God fuck okay I’m done
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Look I'm not one of those people who believe Kishimoto decided to have Hinata and Naruto end up in the middle part of Shippuden. I believe he decided in the very last arc but he wanted to sound smart so he said he decided earlier on. Otherwise, they obviously would have more scene together. In Shippuden, they have only three scenes together ; when Naruto came back, the pain attack and the neji death scene. That's it. In the original Naruto, they probably have less than ten canon scenes not including fillers.
So I'm sorry I'm one of those who wasn't convinced by The Last. They literally had a basic villain go after Hinata who was cringe btw (the villain). They gave Hinata op powers which she doesn't have in the novel 👀. Despite having op powers, they made her the damsel in distress. Very "The hero saves the princess" cliche. Again, to justify them being together. I mean Naruto can't differentiate his love for ramen and romantic love so how??? He was just being nice to Hinata just like he does to everyone. He stood up for her just like he does for everyone.
Don't get me started on the Sakura Sasuke relationship 🤣. Cringe. They never knew each other. The whole Sakura's love for Sasuke saved him doesn't make sense. They spent barely a year in their genin year before sasuke left. Sasuke tried to kill Naruto and Sakura multiple times. Then at the end of the war, Kishimoto tried to do the "oh they have such a deep understanding between each other" which comes off as cringey. He gets her pregnant then leaves for years. She's literally a single mom who's broke.
Every relationship in Naruto is so cringey and forced except shikatemari. Kishimoto should've focused on the main story and fixed his potholes and leave the ending open.
Naruto would not have been perfect but at least it would've been remembered for staying true to its vision but instead it's remembered for cringey relationships, dumbass villain (except pain and madara) and a story that lost its core which is a shame coz I used to love Naruto. I was inspired by its messages but now....
OKAY LOL WAIT I ACTUALLY HAVE THIS LONG ASS RANT PREPARED XD
BUT FIRST Ive read what you said and I lowkey agree :p
HOWEVER
I DRAW THE LINE AT TONERI SLANDER. BECAUSE WHY
TONERI?? CRINGE?? THIS SEXY MOTHERFUCKER??
LOOK AT HIS WHITE FLUFFY HAIR AND HIS CERULEAN BLUE ORBS STARING DEEPLY INTO YOUR SOUL
SAY SIKE RIGHT NOW?!#*@*#&@*
okay lol now for the juicy part click readmore and beware I shall be brutally honest so yea enjoy
I mean, Naruto in general is a mess, not just the ships if we're being realistic. Alot of plotholes, rushed endings, this and that, the w a r a r c, Kaguya, the way they rushed Boruto ehhh. Honestly, getting into Naruto is literally my biggest regret of 2020 :"DD
Im an NH shipper as you can tell by my hotmess of a blog but i fully respect your opinion and understand your point of view. I also know a bunch of nh stans who have their complaints with their development. I wish Kishi gave more attention to his female cast really, thats all I fucking ask. If he did that one single basic thing, then maybe the endgame relationships wouldnt have been an asspull and theyd be given propper screentime with their love interest, both Sakura and Hinata. The Last tbh i think the writers played it safe and stuck to the whole Naruto shounen vibe thingy, so im not surprised it was plotted that way. Typical cliché shounen movie.
But does that bother me? No! The Last was a mess, their development was shit, they definitely needed more screentime but hey at the end of the day theyre cute as fuck, we have that kiss scene, flirting scenes, a shit ton of official art, three kids, Seiki's gif :33 and a whole ass arc for their wedding all that for just a shounen anime so eh. Compensates for it i guess xD theyre not toxic, unhealthy or whatnot. Theyre wholesome, soft and vanilla as fuck and exactly what i need in my hectic life rn. No drama, just two kind souls who are adorable as heck and theyre dynamic means so much to me and I will love them until i shall leave this earth.
Anon, im not even gonna waste my time and defend their development because i think it sucked too xD but if you wanna know why i love them so so so soooo much, Id be more than willing to tell you :33
Sasuke and Sakura on the other hand eeeehhhh i can see why people like them. Sasuke's hot, he's your typical hot bad boy aad Sakura's hot and pretty too. Basic blue and pink trope. Aside from their canon interactions, fans have all the opportunity to play around with their dynamic but for me, its just sooo basic and so hetero and can easily appeal to any 16 yr old teenage girl, no wonder it has an active fanbase on twt and---- AM I MAKING ANY SENSE? AHDBAJJE LIKE ITS SO-- BASIC, your usual bad boy x pretty girl trope that you get to read in YA and coming of age novels. Not only that, but going back to canon, they have too many negative interactions for me to like them together :p The least Sakura can do is put down her own foot and yell at him for not contacting them for god knows how long. I also dont like how he always gets easily forgiven >=[[. I mean at least He's compensating as a dad good for him but ehhhh i still dont like him and Sakura together :v And im not falling for that "Sakura is the reason why Sasuke isnt lonely anymore" because thats NARUTO AHHH. Sasuke said that Multiple times. HE LIGHTS A FIRE INSIDE OF ME. HES MY SUN. MY ONE AND ONLY FRIEND. LIEK?? THATS NARUTOOO romantic or not, Naruto was the reason for his not so lonely existence anymore smh >=[[
Sasuke almost murdered her and Naruto and made their lives a living hell but hey its all good!! He's my best friend and Sakura loves him!! So set him freeee into the worldddd~~
Sasuke left his family without even simply contacting them but can easily contact Naruto through a hawk but hey thats fine! His and Sakura's feelings are connected afterall! Sasuke gave her a ring and said thank you! Who cares about leaving your family. She loves him and he loves her so yey!!! All is forgiven :D
DID I MENTION SASUKE ALMOST MUREDERED HIS OWN DAUGHTER AND HE WASNT CALLED OUT FOR THAT@*#&@??!?#,*@#,#
Sasuke gets too many life points this isnt fair >=[[ But tbh he's nerfed so bad in Boruto manga and anime power wise. Like in that time travel arc and the manga. The rinnegan kunai thing was still so funny to me even if it was Borushiki. I just idk its so funny to me lmaoo
OKAY WHAT ELSE. I dont even know any more. Im tired of complaining about Naruto and just when Ive finally gone a little bit away from Naruto, Hinata fucking pulls me in again 😩 she has me on chokehold pls send help. Watch castlevania!!! and one piece!!!! ten times better than this anime about a loud blonde boi who wants to be president. Trust me
overall, i dont fully agree but i lowkey agree i guess. I do respect your opinion tho :))
EXCEPT WHEN YOU CALLED TONERI CRINGE. HOW DARE YOU CALL THAT SEXY MF CRINGEY---
#like at this point if you complain about naruhina to me id probably complain along with you#but at the end of the day#i really do not care lol#theyre CUTE AS FUCK AND I WILL COMMIT MASS MURDER FOR THESE PRECIOUS KIDS AND WOULD NOT FEEL AN OUNCE OF REMORSE#also i have like zero energy to find all those manga panels and debunk shit and stuff#i just say the first thing that comes to my brain and fart it out on my lonely tumblr blog#anon#hey hey anon ask me about why i love naruhina so much come on come on *aggressively bounces knees*#unpopular opinions
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Do u have any ships ( romantic or platonic ) for Karin ? Love ur blog btw 😋
aigokheros. I do! Romantically speaking ( and all of these are platonic too lmao ) I like:
Sasuke/Karin ( platonic / next gen is also very good though, big love );
Poly!Taka ( with or without Sasuke lmao, plus I really like the individual pairings too like JuuKarin/SuiKa, the latter of which particularly bc of @tankwater )
Sakura/Karin because. they are so good... women have a certain camaraderie!
honestly? most f/f ships I really dig for Karin, like Ino/Karin, Hinata/Karin, they each have like their own fun flare which I love... Temari/Karin might also be an interesting one, and in another world where Tayuya did not get her shit rocked in the Sasuke Retrieval Arc by Temari, Tayu/Karin for some otogakure lesbianism. My Karin probably prefers women tbh which is a tragedy when she never has a gf
I have like "crackships" too in the back of my head that I don't really actively seek out nor think about but occasionally get thoughts that it might work, usually people from Konoha 11
Platonically / familial dynamics, I really like Orochimaru & Karin as a weird pseuod-mother daughter dynamic, same with Kabuto & Karin as like? mentors but also weird siblings but also?? weirdly paternal? Otogakure is weird dude you just project onto whoever's older than you because you're 12 and life is a nightmare.
On the lighter side I dig Naruto & Karin as cousins, it's a crime we did not see them actually?? Speak?? But I digress... by extension, fanonically I love an extended Uzumaki family type situation i. e. with Minato, Kushina as parental figures, Himawari as apprentice / niece, Sarada as goddaughter, she also likes Boruto and Mitsuki but Boruto annoys her lmfao, and back in the day I even wrote like a familial dynamic with a Jiraiya where he was like an uncle type deal? the arguments...
basically bc Karin is my forever girl there's really like, no dynamic I don't like lmfao and no dynamic I'm not willing to write out, tho I don't write romantic Uzumaki stuff nor like age gap romances if they knew each other when she was a minor
***important to note that just because I have ship preferences and stuff, I never go into writing with like ships immediately on my mind nor do I really seek it out lol I like it to be more a case of discussion or natural chemistry or a mixture of both!
thank you so much for your question & your compliment! I notice you in my notifs every now and then, thank you for paying attention!! much love
#stereotypcd#no need for this to get this long#my top 3 romantic ships are sk/polytaka/sakukarin#order of preference changes daily tbh just to fit more what i'm in the mood for#my top platonic ship is naruto and karin for sureee and i also like ino/karin saku/karin and hina/karin#give her. a little squad of women look at what she has to deal with#« outofcharacter : aigokheros. »#« inbox : a ghost in the throat »
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