#hot take: clingy duo are not a very good example of best friends

[bleue-flora]

now you got me curious why is c!clingyduo toxic? I mean I think I can see why it kind of is unhealthy but never to an extent where I would call it full on toxic Ig

Yeah, I’ll admit that was midnight for me so I was half asleep and I do think perhaps toxic isn’t the right word to describe them. Though upon googling, parts of the internet do seem to just characterize an unhealthy relationship as toxic.

Regardless, I could write a whole essay one this… maybe I will. But what I am meaning to say is that honestly, this may be harsh but I don’t think c!Tommy is a good friend to c!Tubbo. I can’t think of one instance where c!Tommy did anything for c!Tubbo without it being an apology or as part of a larger motivation. (I mean feel free to correct me on that, it’s actually something I was rewatching lore for.)

I mean can you honestly say c!Tubbo’s life is better as c!Tommy’s friend? C!Tubbo was friends with everyone before c!Tommy made him choose sides. C!Tommy continuously ropes him into things that endanger his life or make it miserable. C!Tommy continues to deplete c!Tubbo’s resources and is the reason he keeps ending up with nothing. C!Tommy doesn’t listen to what c!Tubbo says and c!Tubbo just goes along with whatever c!Tommy wants him too even if he disagrees. One of if not the only times he doesn’t just follow what c!Tommy wants is Exile. Not to say c!Tommy was the only destructive force in c!Tubbo’s life (c!Quackity and c!Wilbur certainly are big factors too) but they aren’t under the guise of being his “best friend.”

Last time I checked a relationship whether romantic or not should be double sided. But I just don’t see clingy duo as having that 50-50 (or as my dad likes to say 100-100 because both people have to put forth 100% of their effort in a relationship). But it’s not like c!Tommy abused c!Tubbo directly, so I guess that is why I used toxic. Because c!Tommy seems to me to be a toxic force poisoning c!Tubbo’s life.

[outliers-hyppocrates]

Posting my headcanons bc I’m a silly billy ‼️‼️‼️

Lute Headcanons

Christian (duh)

She/Her

Bisexual with a preference for Adam (but she hasn’t admitted she’s bisexual yet)

Badass 🗣️🗣️

Hates most people except for Adam, Emily and Sera. Emily’s like a younger sister for her, Sera like a mother and Adam a role model, best friend & partner (in crime and in romance)

Trained herself in self defence as well as fighting (though it wasn’t necessary til the events of episode 8)

Loves horror movies

Doesn’t like musicals too much but actually got pretty into school of rock cuz of Adam

Loves fighting, would willingly kill anyone who fucks with her or the people she cares about

Easily jealous, especially when Adam’s literally flirting with others or calling other people hot (which is often)

Reserved in public, clingy in private (especially post episode 8 following the theory of Adam being down in hell now ‼️)

Scared of being abandoned

Has never cried around anyone nor will she ever cry around anyone (she’d only ever cry around Adam if she absolutely had to, for example episode 8, but that’s RARE.)

Autistic.

Adam Headcanons

Christian (DUH???)

He/Him

Pansexual (took forever to admit it, a combo of “$20 is $20” and “if there is a hole there is a goal” mentality)

Alex Brightman enthusiast

Loves rock (like he’ll only listen to rock or rock-like music)

School Of Rock fan (his favourite song is stick it to the man)

Egotistical, self-centred prick (but he still loves Lute)

Pro guitar player

Will only ever cry around Lute and it’s also very rare cuz it makes him feel weak

“All women belong in the kitchen (not Lute tho she belongs in my arms 🗣️🔥💕)” Adam, probably

Clingy both out in public and in private

Not easily jealous but if anyone tries ANYTHING he WILL get defensive asf like “mf that’s my woman” type shit

Terrified to love (bc of Lilith and Eve, though it was his fault he doesn’t think it’s his fault)

Gets terrified watching horror movies and spends majority of it not actually watching it

Scared of storms ���

Joint (Guitarspear) Headcanons

Lute and Adam defo play instruments together (Adam plays guitar and Lute plays piano or sings)

They hang out and gossip about the other Exorcists or the fuckers in hell every night while sitting on a rooftop and drinking alcohol (they probably stargaze too if they can)

They have matching bracelets that say danger tits and dickmaster for sure (Adam rarely wears it when out with Lute since he doesn’t think men should wear jewellery but he still wears it whenever he can when he’s not out in public)

They’re that one duo that judges anyone and everyone, if you’re judgable you’re being judged by them

They hype each other up constantly (examples: Lute in Hell Is Forever, Adam in You Didn’t Know)

Adam probably tries to impress Lute with his amazing guitar solos

Adam fell first Lute fell harder

They count down to the extermination like it’s New Years 😭😭

Lute could NOT handle Adam’s death (very sad 😔)

(Post Episode 8)Lute defo goes down to hell just to make sure Adam’s okay even though that’s extremely risky for her (BC WE ALL KNOW ADAMS GONNA BE DOWN THERE)

They both love drama so they just cause chaos together

They refer to themselves as partners (but use the excuse of it being partners in crime)

Adam is extremely bad at giving or handling physical affection and Lute is extremely good at both most of the time (it depends when)

Adam randomly picks up Lute to piss her off (the height difference is laughable)

Lute has selfies they both took prior to each extermination stuck up on her wall

Adam can’t handle horror movies at all so during watching horror movies Adam would be terrified (though too egotistical to actually admit it) while Lute is just being critical about killers and enjoying the movie

Adam is usually the one to incite flirting, whenever Lute flirts she’s just taking advantage of the situation

Lute only calls Adam by his name if she’s pissed and usually calls him sir

They tell inappropriate jokes 24/7 for fun (half the time the jokes lead to flirting 😭)

Lute has a horrible sleep schedule and so just falls asleep randomly during the day if she’s not gotten enough sleep (averages like 2 or so hours max if she’s lucky) and usually either falls asleep on Adam or Adam has to catch her if she collapses

Pillow fights.

Adam has to take care of Lute’s wings bc she’s reckless and usually doesn’t give a shit about her wings but Adam cares and so usually is the one to preen them and make them look better

@gothlute i wanna tag you in this cuz you’re the reason i decided to post these so enjoy!!

[moonraccoon-exe]

What kinds of arguments do you think Gladiolus and Ignis tend to have?

Interesting question, hurr.

Do you mean canon Gladiolus + Ignis, or the Gladnis? 

Either way, their personalities don’t change, only the circumstances, so the spectrum of their arguments would be the same.

Hm….it’s a bit hard to imagine them arguing for something that is not regarding the journey. They seem to be completely understanding of each other (unlike it may happen, say, with Noct, whom they may grow exasperated more easily), because, unlike Gladio + Noct or Ignis + Noct, there’s no official duty or any sort of obligation between the Gladio + Ignis interaction. So Ignis would have no reason to rage that Gladio didn’t do his papers because it’s not his job to even ask him if he did (like it is with Noct), or for Gladio to rage at Ignis for skipping training, because it’s not his job to even ask, let alone get upset about it.

BUT they’re human beings, and while it’s hard to imagine it happens easily, it’s easy to picture it when it does.

Maybe the most common Gladiolus + Ignis (a few which can work both as Gladnis or just canon them) arguments could be regarding…

Noctis.

It’s pretty easy to picture either of them raging at the other for something Noctis-related, in the sort of, for example, Gladio skipping one of Noct’s training, or Gladio taking the prince for Cup Noodles, and making Ignis rage at him because they’re supposed to be “doing their job”, raging at Gladio because “why do you insist on feeding him more junk food when that’s already his diet”, raging because “I work to exhaustion to get him to eat one goddamn carrot so you come and bring down all my effort with some bloody noodles”. 

And on the other side, it’s also easy to picture Gladio raging at Ignis for being too hard on Noctis. We see him treat that very smoothly and with great understanding in Brotherhood. But let’s imagine that was a “once every five or so months” reminder from Gladio to Ignis that Noctis is a teen struggling in life and asking him to take it easy on him. But let’s imagine it happens with more frequency at some point; it’d be an easy trigger for Gladio to grow tired at Ignis not understanding he needs to soften at times, and so, easy to imagine them coming to argue about it. 

Self-care.

This one seems to be a major headcanon of the fandom, whether they ship or not, and it’s treated a lot in many fanfics (which is not bad and I actually enjoy of it very dearly). It’s one of the EASIEST ways of imagining them argue, and I’d say it’d be very common, even more than arguing over something Noctis-related.

Ignis doesn’t take proper care of himself.

We know he does, but not as much as he should. Or at least that’s the idea we all get from him. He’s healthy and all, but truth is he’s only healthy so he can be of use to Noct. Ignis would throw himself in a lava pit just to save one of their friends. Ignis is one of the most selfless creatures to ever exist in any universe, and that’s not necessarily a good thing or a compliment; treating others good is fantastic, but it’s different treating others good over your own desires, to treating others good while at the same time neglecting yourself.

Whether it’s a thing or not, it’s easy to believe in Ignis. And, of course, it’s easy to see why that would make Gladio rage at him.

It would be rage the “I’m worried” kind. The arguments where Gladio tries to make Ignis see why he needs to take better care of himself, and Ignis insisting he’s fine, and eventually this turning into a proper argument in which Gladio’s furious because Ignis doesn’t understand he too is human and needs proper care, and Gladio wants him to realize that. 

It can also go the other way around; on Gladio.

It’s much less treated, and it’s hitting me only as I write this, but self-care arguments could also come from Ignis to Gladio; perhaps, at some point, Ignis may consider Gladio pushes himself too hard in his training and the things he does. He seems pretty upset when Gladio comes back from the Gilgamesh trial, and while I also add another reason to Ignis’ sudden seriousness and sort of sadness, it’d be natural for him to have worried.

One thing is to train hard and long to stay fit and strong, but another thing is to go take a trial nobody but one person had survived before, face a god of war and swords, and almost die in the process. So it could easily turn into an argument matter; “you push yourself too hard, and I’m proud you’re trying to be the best Shield ever, but this is just reckless and idiotic, we could have lost you, what were you thinking and why didn’t you tell us before, we could have said something, done something, omfg you’re an idiot what if you die huh WHAT IF.”

Food.

Hahaha, less serious this time, but an argument matter nonetheless.

Ignis seems particularly fond of eating healthy and good. Gladio loves instant soup.We know where this ends.

I guess Ignis could get easily angry at Gladio’s love for Cup Noodles, and would constantly lecture him on how Gladio “eats too many”, rambling on how “unhealthy this is”, and rage at him because “Your job is to stay healthy and this is your concept of an ideal diet? Gods damn it, Gladiolus, you’re exasperating.” 

Laundry.

?? I don’t know why because it’s never mentioned, but I feel like the Gladio + Ignis duo would have arguments regarding this. Gladio looks like he kind of hates to do laundry, and we know Ignis is a bit too careful with all things. 

It’s silly an irrelevant, but I can see them arguing because “I TOLD you red clothes here and white clothes here, NOW I HAVE TO WEAR PINK AND SHRUNKEN SOCKS TO THE COUNCIL MEETING OF TODAY, did you even ADD soap at all or did you just toss it all inside and pressed ‘Start’? Geez bloody rabbit holes, I cannot ask you for ONE favor, Gladiolus, you had ONE job, ONE BLOODY JOB.”

Books/Shelf/Order.

Ignis seems a bit maniacal when it comes to putting things in order and keeping spaces clean (I wouldn’t say he’s obsessed, he just likes to have a clear floor to walk through). We know Gladio has a passion for books. 

So, maybe, another Gladio + Ignis argument could come out of Ignis cleaning up and putting Gladio’s books in different places. Arranging his shelf from biggest to smallest book, thinking Gladio had tossed them in no special order, picking a book from the living room to place it back on the shelf, something.

Only for Gladio to come back and not find the novel he’s been craving to continue since morning anywhere. He was sure he left it here, but nope. Gone. And when he goes look int he shelf, the alphabetical order is all messed up? 

So, of course, easy trigger.

“Igniiiiis! Where did you leave my (X) book? I’ve told you- *angry sigh* Sweetie, I’ve TOLD you many times, so many goddamn times, that I don’t LIKE that you move my stuff! What do you mean messy? I left it on the table! I mean, yes, but- Ignis, Ignis you messed the order of my books! Ignis, I’ve been wanting to read my novel all day and now I can’t find it. Are you pleased with yourself? Are you? Because I’m not. WHERE did you put it, dammit!? Ignis, why do you insist on moving my stuff, I don’t touch yours!!”

Something stupid like sneezing without covering nose

“UGH, Gladiolus, you don’t do that!!!! Ugh, fantastic, thank you, thank you for sneezing in my face, I needed this fresh gust of sea breeze, you’re the most attentive man of Eos, thank you very much.”

“Oh come on, Ignis, it was an accident. Didn’t have time to cover my face, I have both hands occupied.”

“You could have used your elbow, you idiot.”

“Don’t make a drama on me, Ignis Scientia, I’ll sneeze on you again.”

“Don’t you dare, Gladiolus Amici-”

“Ah….”

“GLADIOLUS, don’t you fucking da-”“AAAH….”

“That’s it, I’m done, I’m out of here.”

“AAAAH CHOOOOOO!”

“Eeeewwww!!! That’s it, I’m not talking to you in three days, THREE DAYS, did you hear me, whY ARE YOU LAUGHING, I’m not joking, I’m serious, stop that and- no, let go of me, I hate you!”

Arguing because one lost their son in the supermarket.Something stupid like the side of the bed.

“Well, goodnight. Move?”

“Why?”

“That’s my side of the bed.”

“No, it’s not.”

“Iggy, that’s MY side of the bed and you know that.”

“Gladio, it’s just a bed. Who cares which side we get each? Just come sleep.”

“…okay, but give me my side, please?”

“Are you serious?”

“Are YOU serious? It’s just a side of the bed, don’t get all upset on me, I’m just asking you to move.”

“You said it yourself, it’s just a side, no need to make a big deal out of it.”

“THAT’S what I mean. So, move?”

“Why do you want this side, I was here first”

“But why do you insist on keeping it, it’s my favorite side, you know I like the spot closest to the window and-”

“-but I don’t see what the big deal is and you insist like you care more about the side of the bed than sleeping at all-”

“-because you don’t understand the symbolic importance of it to me, it’s a ritual, Iggy, I need that side of the-”

“-and you could sleep perfectly fine on the couch, you know, I wouldn’t-”

“-and you’re so stubborn, Ignis, what have I ever done to you ohmygod, just MOVE-”

“-and I don’t understa- Gladio what are you do- don’t you dARE TURN THE MATTRESS- *yelp* *loud thud* THAT WAS UNNECESSARILY RUDE, GLADIOLUS, I AM NOT ACCEPTING THIS. GLADIOLUS, MOVE. YOU’RE OCCUPYING THE ENTIRE BED NOW. GLADIOLUS. GLADIO I KNOW YOU’RE NOT ASLEEP. GOD FUCKINGDAMMITMOVE I HATE YOU.”

Something stupid like being clingy.

“I’ve told you SO many times that I hate to be interrupted while booking, Gladio. Please do not physicaly obstruct me while I’m in the kitchen. You can cause a big accident. GladIOLUS CAN YOU PLEASE LET GO OF MY LEG. GEEZ SWEET SHIVA CAN YOU PLEASE NOT- *groan* PUT ME DOWN THIS INSTANT, THE PAN IS HOT AND IT’S NOT GOING TO BE MY FAULT IF YOU BURN YOUR BLOODY HEAD WITH IT, DID YOU HEAR ME ohmygod, Gladiolus, stop it, why ar eyou so clingy, can you please give me ONE second of space, you’re cuddling me all the time and I appreciate the gesture but CAN YOU PLEASE NOT.”

Apparently, a good summary would be:

Something super serious

And a bunch o stupid things.

That are most surely ending in cuddles anyway.

They don’t argue, they just passionately discuss matters with a lot of exasperation and hatred. ( ´ ▽ ` ).｡ｏ♡