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dimonds456 · 1 month ago
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Transfem Stan Thoughtdump
Okay so @/abyssalzones made a pretty good post that sums up a lot of my thoughts as well, but I have a few extra ones I'd like to add to this discussion, as well as elaborating on one of the post's points. I've been thinking about transfem Stan for a couple of weeks now and at this point I'm like "fuck it we ball" and throwing it out there. 
For one, it warms my heart whenever there's an older character who was raised in the mid-1900s/older times who realizes they're queer, or comes to terms with their identity in old age. You're never too old to realize you're part of the community, and never too late. Adding this on top of the many, MANY identities that Stan has had to take to survive in her life, it'd be like really turning over a new leaf for her. She'd get to really step into an identity that she aligns with completely, and not something else given to her or that she took to protect herself. 
Not to mention, everything regarding Ford. The fact that she had to pretend to be Ford for so long, she more than likely never had the chance to even think about taking on any other identities. She had to keep this one as intact as she could. Otherwise, she could risk loosing the Shack, and with it, the portal- her brother. No way that was happening. 
It was briefly touched in the post, but when Stan was watching that one movie and she was like "JUST LIKE ME FR", obviously the writers intended that to just be a joke since this was as far and away from Stan's identity as they could get. But we're gonna ignore that and take it at face value for a second. 
The channel introduces itself (jokingly) as the boring old lady black-and-white channel, clearly something that a manly-man like Stan wouldn't be into, and he reacts like how you'd expect. But once it gets going, he gets fully sucked into it, leading eventually to the scene where the main character, seemingly about to complete a Character Arc™, tells her mother "I'm not just a dutchess, I'm also a woman!" and Stan cheers for her, saying the "just like me fr" line. 
Without any transfem headcanons, again, this is a joke. Or you could interpret this in hindsight as Stan feeling a similar way about his father, since lines like "I'm a woman!" declared like that usually means "I'm free to make my own choices," which is a message resident make-my-father-proud-issues Stanley Pines would relate to pretty hard. Even though this isn't a conclusion Stan comes to in the show, we could easily see him coming to a conclusion like that in the future.
Now let's add the transfem headcanon back in. With that new layer to it, Stan (whose egg hasn't cracked yet) would be confused as to why she relates so hard. After all, she's a man who was raised to shove feelings down and be a manly-man man by Filbrick. She's more than likely gone her entire life trying to conform to that idea of toxic masculinity that her dad pushed on both her and Ford. Stan was always the one who resorted to punching, after all. That's a manly-man trait, so surely this goes no further right
There's a part of Gravity Falls that I feel doesn't get discussed enough, and that's the underlying misogyny of it. There's not a ton of it, but there are quite a few jokes about how men are stronger than women and the like. Stan has quite a few lines like that herself. So she would be subscribing to a similar mental state, the idea that if you like punching, CLEARLY you're a guy. Cuz that's how it works. Obviously. 
Introducing Mabel Pines, someone who is VERY much a girly-girl. She likes pink and unicorns and rainbows and makeup and sleepovers, stuff of the like. Now I could make a whole other post about my headcanons for Mabel and her queer journey, but one thing she can definitely do that "girly-girls" DON'T? Punching.
Mabel can punch. And she punches a lot. 
It's a small thing, and something I think Stan has just kinda accepted without question over the course of the series, but if she were to stop and think about it, she'd be like ".....wait a minute." and it could very well be the first piece that cracks the idea of manly-man masculinity vs just. existing as a person and what that actually means. 
Once Stan finally starts to break away from toxic masculinity and all those lessons she got thrown into her head, then her egg would finally be able to start cracking. 
As for why it even matters, first off, it just makes for an interesting interpretation of the character I haven't really seen before until VERY recently. Like, within the past 2 days recently (and maybe once like a month ago?? idk). 
But secondly, for her character, it would be a good, healthy step into really taking back her identity. Who IS Stan Pines? She's spent so long being other people, either as a form of self-defense or pretending to be her brother so she can help save him from the sideburn hell dimension, that I don't think she's really allowed herself to connect to who Stan is. 
This is true regardless of gender headcanon, but I think the transfem angle makes it so much more interesting. Who is Stan? Not even she knows. And she's starting to feel VERY confused about the whole thing. 
As for Ford, I think he'd be more than willing to support an identity journey for Stan. After all, he's traveled across dimensions and more than likely had all his teachings questioned as well. I am willing to bet money he's encountered trans people before. And, knowing Ford, he'd be open and curious to the idea, not close-minded, no matter what their father tried to teach his kids. Honestly, I could see Ford pestering Stan with questions long into the night regarding the whole thing, and taking up the whole identity mystery for himself as something the two of them can "crack" (heh) together. Just another adventure for the crew of the Stan'o'War II! 
There's SO much more but I don't wanna re-say things that the og post already said, these are just the big ones that stick out to me and what I wanted to elaborate on. 
TL;DR Stan goes on a journey of realizing that toxic masculinity Is Bad Actually and honestly so was his father, and once he accepts that and starts actively challenging his own beliefs about gender, her egg cracks and she realizes that maybe she isn't a guy at all. The rest of the Pines- but Ford especially- are supportive, and although Stan has a LOT of self-reflection to do and I could see her getting frustrated, flustered, or even embarrassed of her newfound realization, ultimately it makes her happier like this. Cuz it's her identity. She's not pretending to be anyone else anymore and she can just wholly be herself.
Thank you and goodnight
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thoriffix · 4 years ago
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Can you rec some media with canon queer characters 😌
ofc!! thisll by no means be an exhaustive list but idk what youre looking for specifically so ill break it into categories
my current favs!! if u follow me u know these already lol
the umbrella academy: netflix show abt dysfunctional superpowered siblings reuniting to stop the apocalypse. canon mlm character (pansexual according to his actor) w mlm romance, canon wlw character (lesbian according to someone on the show dont rmr who) w het romance in s1, wlw romance in s2 - this is one of my absolute fav shows at the minute in general its brilliant
the magnus archives: horror podcast abt the head archivist of an institute researching experiences w the supernatural. protagonist is canonically biromantic asexual, in a mlm relationship in s5, and there is another canon bisexual character, as well as (iirc) a canon wlw couple - yall know ive been so into tma lately its so so good, obviously if you dont like horror its not for you but if you do.. 👀
sanders sides: youtube series abt a gay dude working out his emotional problems via personified aspects of his personality. all the characters are gay cuz thas what thomas is baby! - i was hesitant abt putting this cuz thomas is a person not a character lol but if u haven't seen sasi i recommend it its like free therapy but theres songs sometimes
shows!
julie and the phantoms (netflix remake): musical show abt a teen girl rediscovering music after her mothers death w the help of three ghosts who were in a 90s band. canon gay character w a slow burn romance (not yet canon bfs but s2 lets go) - its very cheesy and the musical segments can drag on a bit but its p good overall
lucifer: detective show abt lucifer abandoning his rule of hell to buy a nightclub and beginning to solve murders w the lapd. lucifer is canonically bi/pan, as is his demon pal mazikeen, but queerness rly isnt a focus of the show its more casual rep - that being said its a good show overall, if a little predictable now n then (s1-3 on amazon prime, 4+5 on netflix)
kipo and the age of wonderbeasts: fantasy cartoon set in a future filled w mutant intelligent animals, kipo finds herself lost and has to get home w the help of her friends. canon gay character as one of the mains, canon nb side character - its a rly good cartoon! lots of fun, excellent soundtrack, and the main characters are all poc which is rly nice to see
the dragon prince: cartoon abt two princes and an elf assassin returning a dragon egg to its mother. canon mlm couple, several canon wlw characters, canon nb character - i havent seen the show myself but ive heard very good things abt it!
i am not okay with this: netflix show abt a teen girl discovering she has superpowers and hating it. protag is canon wlw (i THINK shes a lesbian but i havent watched it in a hot sec), developing wlw relationship - ianowt slaps! sad that s2 got cancelled but s1 is real good its a touch spooky and theres a bit of gore/blood so watch out lol
schitt's creek: sitcom abt a rich family who lose all their money and have to move into the motel of a town they bought as a joke. canon pansexual character and canon gay character w one of the sweetest mlm relationships - a rly good witty show w excellent character development for every character!
good omens: show abt a demon and an angel trying to stop the end of the world. every celestial character in it is nonbinary, + crowley and aziraphale have a nonexplicit (ie no on screen pda lol) romance - good omens is such a good queer show none of the characters care abt gender in the slightest lmao, plus the show in general is fantastic (the book is also very good)
movies!
the old guard: a group of immortals fight an organisation that wants to capitalise off their immortality. canon mlm couple - another one i havent seen yet (i will!) but apparently very good
it chapter 2: horror sequel to It, w the main characters returning to derry to defeat pennywise for good. canon gay character in unrequited love - i only say chapter 2 because his queerness isnt referenced at all in the first film, again its big horror and theres no gay romance just gay tragedy but its a good film
love, simon: romcom about a closeted gay teen falling in love w someone over emails. do i even need to state the rep? - honestly if u haven't seen love simon yet what are you even DOING its so good proper fluffy queer romcom, the book (simon vs the homosapiens agenda) is also really good!! so is the sequel (leah on the offbeat) where the protag is a bi girl + it focuses on a wlw romance
the way he looks: brazilian coming of age film abt a blind teen boy falling for the new kid at his school. canon mlm relationship - this doesnt seem to be on (british) netflix anymore so idk where youd find it with subtitles but i rmr liking it a lot!
games!
night in the woods: 2d platformer abt a young woman (well. cat) dropping out of college and coming home to live w her parents + discovering spooky happenings in her hometown. canon mlm couple and i believe the protag is canonically bi? - i will recommend nitw to literally anyone who will listen its one of my all time favourite games, deals w a lot of mental health issues and its absolutely gorgeous w a brilliant soundtrack and rly good dialogue thats witty and serious and realistic (its on steam + switch for sure dk abt other platforms, abt 15 quid i think?)
tell me why: adventure game abt twins returning to their childhood home + findin Secrets. canon trans male character - i havent got around to buying + playing this yet but it looks really good! (its in three chapters + on steam, not sure on price)
other media!
the art of being normal: slice of life novel abt a young trans girl discovering herself. main characters are a trans man and a trans woman. - a good novel! trigger warning for transphobic actions including descriptions of a transphobic attack on the guy, and its certainly not without its faults otherwise, but i thought it was pretty good
the adventure zone: dungeons and dragons podcast by the mcelroy brothers. idk specifics but theres a lot of canon queer characters in it! - i havent listened to taz yet but i know a lot abt it, inc that its good and funny and has plenty of queer rep
theres several more i like that arent listed here but to keep this from getting just ridiculously long ill leave it there :] tried to get a range of genres and medias, hopefully theres something for you in there!
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bnha-hcs · 7 years ago
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Some Starbucks Rage
So me and @bnha-villians-hc-and-imagines​ were originally going to work on some Starbucks AU stuff because we both suffer in that hell but it became less of an AU and more of a rage induced ranting session so I’m posting it here so y’all can do with this as you will. Be warned there’s a lot of cursing and caps lock lmao
STARBUCKS RAGE:
Me, Tiki:
You come in every fucking day and can’t seem to figure out how the creamer works for whatever fucking reason so I always end up having to pour it for you IT’s NOT THAT FUCKING HARD JUST UNSCREW THE CAP
You keep coming in and just saying “mocha” and I don’t understand what you’re asking STOP LOOKING AT ME LIKE I’M STUPID WHEN I ASK YOU HOT OR COLD JUST ANSWER THE QUESTION PLS THERE’S A LINE
Lmao fuck,,, If you come in one more time and ask for a cup of whipped cream I will have you feel the wrath of god.png
You came up to the front counter and keep changing your mind about which mug you’re buying and I’m handing them back to you to put away like, you know, good people do and you’re getting mad at me saying you don’t want it PLEASE JUST PUT THE FUCKING CUPS BACK WHERE YOU FOUND THEM
“Is it too late to change my milk from regular to almond milk??” Me, holding the finished drink and about to set it down on the bar: “No, I guess I’ll Make a BRAND NEW ONE”
If you say “just a little bit” one more time while I’m toasting your fucking bagel I will shove it down your fucking throat oh my gods
I asked you about a million times if you wanted your (insert pastry item here) warmed up and you said no so I hand it to you and you suddenly go, “Oh wait,,, :c can I have it warmed up?”Me, inserting a gun into my mouth: “sure”
If you keep coming in and ordering off the fcuking “secret menu” one more time I’m going to launch you into the sun
yOU ALWAYS COME IN HERE WITH GIFT CARDS THAT HAVE REWARDS ON THEM WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU AND WHY DO YOU HAVE 6 REWARDS AND WHY DO YOUR CARDS NOT WORK ON THE FUCKING TERMINAL AND I CAN’T SEE THE NUMBERS ON THEM TO TYPE THEM IN FUCK YOU
You ate 7/8ths of the fucking panini and then came back to complain that it was cold NO I’M NOT GOING TO FUCKING REFUND IT
You and your group of friends came in completely drunk at 8 in the morning pls stop yelling at each other to shut up and just order something AND STOP FUCKING WITH THE DISPLAYS
I ask you if you want room in your coffee for cream and sugar and you either say “just cream” or “just sugar” and i don’t think you fucking understand that they’re the fucking same JUST SAY YES YOU NEED ROOM
If you spill your entire drink all over the fucking bar don’t just stand there and look lost for fucks sake julia CLEAN UP YOUR GODDAMN MESS.
“Do you have (insert breakfast sandwich) right now?” “no we don’t sorry.” “WELL WHAT DO YOU HAVE??” Me, two feet away from the display case: “We have whatever’s in the case” “Well what’s in the case??” I DON’T KNOW KAREN WHY DON’T YOU USE YOUR EYES AND FIND OUT??
Don’t get fucking mad because you have to wait two seconds for the pike to brew I’M SORRY WE HAVE TO BREW IT EVERY 30 MINUTES WOULD YOU RATHER NOT GET ANY AT ALL YOU MOLDY DONUT
Sorry i don’t know all the ingredients for every single syrup we own I DON’T FUCKING KNOW IF PEPPERMINT HAS DAIRY IN IT BUT I WOULD ASSUME NOT
nO i can’t fucking cut your panini or breakfast sandwich in half I don’t have a knife stop asking
You came in asking if you could buy a bag of chips that we don’t sell and you literally have the bag of chips what the fuck where did you get this bag of chips sir did you just STEAL A BAG A CHIPS TO BUY IT AT A STARBUCKS
No i’m not giving you a fcuking sleeve for your cold drink THIS IS WHY WE RUN OUT BY FUCKING NOON BC BOO BOO THE FOOL CAN’T HOLD A COLD DRINK APPARENTLY
FUCKING There aren’t any fucking soap suds in your goddamn coffee sir THEY’RE NOT SOAP BUBBLES It’s a goddamn reaction of when the carbon dioxide and the bean oils combine it makes the bubbles. It’s not soap. For fucks sakesIT GOES AWAY IN 2-3 MINUTES AND GUESS WHAT ASSWIPE THE MORE BUBBLES THE FRESHER THE COFFEE SO YOU CAN KISS MY CANDY SWEET CANDY ASS
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@bnha-villians-hc-and-imagines​:
You always mobile order but you dont fucking come get your drink until 45 minutes later and i H a T E you
You come in. Everyday. Asking if we have pumpkin spice. It is fucking march. STOP.
You ordered a starbucks doubleshot on ice with 12 shots with no cream or sweetener. And asked for it to be filled with cold brew instead of milk or water. For the third time today. Are you okay? ... Seriously, are you okay?
I saw you stuff handfuls of our splenda and sugar packets into your jacket. Who are you and why are you like this?
No you cant hand me all your trash through the drive thru window, fuck you.
I'm taking an order over the head set, taking money from the window and struggling to also put a lid on this frappaccino- YOU CAN WAIT, PERSON AT FRONT COUNTER.
I was scheduled to work with two people over a peak period, both didn't show up. I am running the store myself, this isn't sweat these ARE TEARS. (Tiki im sorry u lived through this)
Please dont yell at me if your card declines. That is all.
Getting angry when I dont laugh at/agree with your racist/sexist/transphobic/homophobic joke doesnt make you right or a victim. I hope you drive into a tree.
No im not going to use my partner numbers on your order???? Who??? The fuck???? Do you think you are????
Stop smoking in drive thru. STOP IT. FUCKING STOP. STOP.
Its 9pm. OF COURSE WE HAVE LIKE NO FOOD ITEMS WE ARE CLOSING DOWN THE STORE U DUMBSHIT.
i cant pick out artichokes from your sandwich what the fuck? Is this subway? No.
I dont care about your diet. Stop telling me that its cheat day.
If im mopping. Dont. Walk. Through. My. EFFORTS. Please. Im not even finished with half the store. Just go to the other side its 3 steps away please.
Dont say “coffee” in the drive thru and drive off to my front window you fucking ignoramus.
Get off your phone when ordering. Fuck you. And your phone call.
Im not looking at your laptop while im sweeping don't give me a side eye, for fucks sake.
I SAW YOU STEAL THAT PACKET OF CHOCOLATE COVERED GRAHAM CRACKERS. AT LEAST TRY TO BE SNEAKY.
If i cant scan ur panini at front counter, it doesnt mean its free. Please stop making this joke. Im just going to put it in manually. Please stop trying to take it from me. I need to warm it- please- stop- ITS NOT WARM PLEASE STOP- please. Please. *4 minutes later once they have their coffee* “uh. No one warmed up my panini” *they hold up the panini that they SNATCHED FROM ME* me, stabbing myself and performing seppuku; “tell my mother i love her”
You walked into my store and cut in line. Why are you upset that i tell you to move? Why? Who are you? Who raised you?
Just because you call me “darlin’” doesnt mean i will flirt with u. You're like fucking 46. I am 20.
STOP. GIVING. YOUR. ORDER. IN. THE. PASSENGER. SIDE. OF. THE. CAR. WHEN. ORDERING. AT. THE. DRIVE-THRU. I. CANT. HEAR. YOU. JUST TELL YOUR DRIVER WHAT YOU WANT SO I CAN HEAR THE ORDER PLEASE IM BEGGING YOU.
“I want a vintage (yes) white chocolate mocha with 3 pumps of raspberry” “venti?” “vintage” “..venti..” “VINTAGE” “okay.”
“Hi welcome to starbucks can you please hold on a moment for me” “CAN I GET A UHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH, TOASTED WHITE CHOCOLATE MOCHA WITH NO WHIP, EXTRA HOT WITH EXTRA PRIVILEGE AND I WANT IT DOUBLE CUPPED/// Me, Juggling 3 paninis and trying to take money from an old lady who doesnt know what silence is and is telling me about her 5th grandkid picking his nose; “hi welcome to starbucks i hope you fucking choke”
If one more god damn person looks at me, in my fucking eyes, and tells me they wanted their latte iced when i asked 459 times if it was hot/iced then i will choke a bitch.
“Can i add to my order. At the window. After i paid, and after you've given me my drinks?” me, crying; “okay”
You came in, ordered a kids temp hot chocolate, and now you are complaining that its. Not. Hot. Enough? Go die.
Im sorry that we ran out of cakepops Sharon, but calm the fuck down. Please.
Hi i noticed you came through our drive thru/store at 9:58pm and I just wanna let you know that everyone in the store hates you with an unrelenting rage that will hopefully melt the skin off your face. Oh? You need 4 caramel fraps and 2 black and white mochas, both iced with no whip and half and half as the base? Fuck you.
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findteenpenpals · 8 years ago
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Hello from your Indonesian friend
HLLO THERE! I’m Firdausi Dhea Hanindra. Im a girl.
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You can call me Fidhe. I’m a senior high school student,  i live in a small town caled Batam, 45 minutesaway with fery from Singapore. I was bon in this city, August 26th 2001. Ya, I’m gonna be 16 this year.
I love sport and I just joined a sport organization named ‘SETIA HAT ORGANISASI’. It’s an organization where i learn how to do pencak silat. Pencak silat is very famous here in Indonesia, and we even learn how to do it in our school. I also love to take run every morning, I love how it affects my body fitness hehe. 
Anyway, I am also learning languages, English and French. Well, i’ve been learning english since i was very young, but not with french. I’m absoulutely a beginner. I started it in my highschool. It will be great if you understand it and want to teach me and tell me more about it.
ヽ(⌐■_■)ノ♪♬
 🇮🇩. 
I’m Asian from the Southeast 🌏.
I like to be amongst my internet friends, my closest friends, and sometimes family. I cover up my feelings a lot bc I really hate being a burden and sometimes I’m feeling like I want to share it but I need someone to trust to, and not a backstabbing and big mouth person (ugh gEt oUtTa my lyf).
I’m an emotional person, I cry, hurt, and laugh easily about anything. I like compliments, colourful and kawaii things, and all things fashionable. 
I swear a lot when I’m mad or smth (I’m a positive person normally), I’m trying to be nice with everyone including a people that I hates but they always trying to test my patience until I lost my sanity.
🌷🌈🌹🌈🦋🌈🍁🌈🌻🌈🌴🌈🦄🌈
I aM FuN!! 
Loves and Interests 🌻
I love art and photography although I’m not really good at it, and I’m really enjoying it. I fell in love with filmmaking, I’m dreaming to make my own someday and hopefully becoming real
I love to travelling, I really like to get a new experience, and cultures. I love to read, I basically read all kind of books. I like to write in my journal and put some artsy things in it and writing letters that I don’t know with whom that I will send to. I really love poetry, I love to read it but I can’t write it, 
Interests 🌴
I like to hangout alone by myself in a coffee shop
I love coffee and tea
Vintage stuff
70/80/90s
Kawaii stuff
I like to go to the gym
I like to daydreaming
I like to learning languages; English (Intermediate, lmao my grammar still messed up especially when I’m talking about smth that super exciting), French : beginner, Javanese : That’s a traditional language you will find in my country. It has that kinda unique accent that i love to hear. If youve been to yogyakarta or java island, you probably heard it. I haven’t learned that much languages
Find new friends, I love friends
I like to watch tv shows such as SUPERNATURAL!! DESTIEL!!, the x files, and law and order: CI.
Oh my glob! that’s a lot.. I still have a lot of things to say, but we can talk about it when you interested.
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I hate racism, homophobic, transphobic, creepy old people who pretends to be a teenager, sexism, I don’t like dirty minded people that’s disgusting!. I don’t like someone who starts a convo and never responds, being read or left on chat (oh my, who do they think they are! Beyoncé?!), any kind of discrimination, and anything hateful. 
Ohh yah if your looking for a sexualising relationship things, then I must decline! 
If you’re the person that I listed above, please get in the line to somewhere but not in the universe bc your not belongs in here 🔥
🍂🍁🌾💐🌻🌴🍂🍁🍁🌾💐🌻🌹🌷
I’d LOVE a friends that willing to stay up late with me and talk, telling a secret, stupid stuff, or whtvr as long as we both happy to talk about it. 
Long terms friendship and I also like people that can hold a conversation. I want us to be able to text each other whenever and about whatever. I’m willing to video call or calling but preferably calling (cuz I’m not feeling comfortable to seeing my face on the camera) but if we’re already become a great friends. I’m willing to snail mailing to exchange cute letters or little packages :D. I’m ALmoSt available all the time, I always have time for chatting and for the internet. So if you want to stay up late or whatever, talk to me :D and I can overload you with tons of memes, gifs, and poems. 
I’m more prefer around my age, at least under 20+, any gender is fine, and any country.
Please don’t be disappear after a days or week, you better not talking to me at the first time.
I’m comfortable talking to girls than boys but if you’re a boy that’s also fine as long as your not asking for nudes or smth disgusting! (◞≼◉ื≽◟;益;◞≼◉ื≽◟) 
I don’t really care about your looks, religion, orientation, race, or whtvr. If you’re nice and respect me and I’ll do the same.
🌴🌻🌹🌷🍂🍁🌸🌷🌹🍁🍂🌺💐🌴
Do you always talk to yourself in your head almost to the point that you are living inside your head instead of out in the real world?
If so, then you’re not alone. I’m a daydreamer ✧ ─=≡Σ((( つ•̀ω•́)つ. I would always be thinking about things and fantasising about a lot of things. Whether I was by myself or with other people.
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IF YOU’RE INTERESTED, YOU MY FRIENDS CAN CONTACT ME THROUGH 🌹
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groundramon · 7 years ago
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(in response to this post: http://teamcapumon.tumblr.com/post/161841926398/another-reason-im-an-ace-inclusionist-most)
(I apologize for the words being cut off, apparently my theme is a piece of shit lmao)
@rebelbaze (I’m not sure if that’ll tag you because tumblr wont find your username for some reason?? but anyways)
When I say “complicated relationship with gender and sexuality” I mean being unsure of gender and sexuality, not being discriminated against for it or feeling a disconnect because of societal pressures.  Cisgendered heterosexual heteromantic women, even if they feel like they have to subdue their sexual urges and act inherently feminine, aren’t LGBT just because they feel the need to conform to societal standard.  What I was referring to is people who aren’t sure whether they’re cis or trans (and generally fall somewhere among nonbinary identities) and/or are unsure of their sexuality.  I probably should’ve worded myself more clearly when I said that, but whats done is done |D
Also I’m really glad I know the reason people say “A is for ally” or else I would not be able to contain myself and debate fairly because insinuating that an actually Cishet ally is more LGBT than an asexual person is incredibly insulting, but I know (or am assuming <D) that that’s not what you meant.  The A for ally may be supposed to protect closeted LGBTPN people, but...asexuality actually acts that way for some people as well??  “Ally” is more inclusive because it includes LGBTPN people who outwardly identify themselves as cishet, but I’ve literally seen people say they’re asexual/act as celibates because they’re same-sex attracted.  Furthermore the “A for ally” argument is incredibly confusing for those unaware of what it actually means, but I suppose that’s not your fault lmao
The LGBTPN community was created to fight against homophobia and transphobia, but it has gone through so many growing pains over the years that saying “well it wasn’t originally intended for that!” isn’t a good reason to be an exclusionist.  (Not saying that’s your only reason, I’m just saying that was the reason you gave here).  I dont know if the founders of the LGBT movement/community even knew pansexual and nonbinary people existed, let alone if those founders would support them and their identities.  (That’s not an accusation, though; I’m just saying I legitimately dont know.  If you can prove that they believed one way or the other, I’d be happy to see it.)  The LGBT community was created to fight against homosexuality and transphobia, but I dont see why fighting against aphobia can’t also be a goal of the community - especially since fighting against biphobia, panphobia, and anti-nonbinary sentiments is a goal of the community now.  Furthermore I’d argue that actual Cishet allies would belong in a group thats primary purpose is to fight against homosexuality and transphobia, and that transphobic gay people and homophobic trans people and all biphobes/panphobes/anti-nonbinary people need to be kicked out, but I digress.  (That isn’t to say that cishet allies need the term “LGBT” stamped on them; what I mean to say is that the LGBT community is about a lot more than that.  It’s a community where LGBT+ people are supposed to be able to come for love and support whenever the rest of society is giving them shit.  Yes it’s supposed to fight against transphobia and homophobia, of course, but the reason the LGBT+ community is needed is so that people struggling with homophobia, transphobia, biphobia, and any other kind of sexuality/noncis discrimination [including aphobia imo] have a safe and understanding place to turn to.)
But what you said about cishet ace/aros still having problems is 100% accurate and I appreciate that exclusionists still recognize that, because sometimes I see exclusionists say that cishet ace/aros have all the same benefits that an allo cishet person has and that...concerns me.  Honestly the main reason I’m an inclusionist (although I have other smaller reasons, like the one in the post that you replied to) is because I just want ace/aros to be visible.  We can’t accomplish that on our own; we want to be in the public eye, but everyone ignores that.  It’s not that we absolutely need to be in the LGBT community or we’re being both killed for our sexuality and denied entrance into the LGBT community (because no cishet asexual or aromantic is killed for their sexuality tbh) unlike bi/pan people, but we can’t accomplish nearly as much for our identities without a community of similarly ignored people to rely on.  The LGBT community has become mainstream and ace/aro people want to hop on that train so that people can finally stop invalidating our sexuality every two minutes.  Whether that sounds underhanded or not (or even whether its accurate or not because tbh that’s just what I’ve observed, not necessarily accurate for every cishet ace/aro) is up to you, but that’s how I’ve always seen it.  (Also worth mentioning that in return for having a spot in the LGBT community, the ace/aro community wants to fight for trans and gay rights.  It’s not like we just want to mooch off the hard work of trans and gay people and never contribute lmao.  Yes homophobic and transphobic ace/aro people exist, but transphobic homosexual people exist as to homophobic transgender people, and biphobia is unfortunately very rampant in the LGBT community.  ALSO when I say “ace/aro” community I obviously dont speak for every ace/aro person, especially since some ace/aro people are exclusionists.  Alternately, some cishet ace/aros just want to call themselves LGBT because it’s the “cool” thing to do, like kids who fake mental illness to be seen as cool.  Which it’s an entire problem in and of itself that we’ve created a society where in order to be cool on the internet, all you have to do is call yourself LGBT, but I digress.  That’s a rant for another time, haha.)
Sorry for rambling so long, but hopefully I got my opinion across in all that garbage lmao
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