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Some art for my iz AU, Cuffed! I haven’t posted it yet and I’m working it alongside The Cave and Dead Dib AU.
This one is more simple and less angsty (there’s still a little angst tho) and it’s just the boys being forced to work together after getting kidnapped LOL
#invader zim#dib membrane#invader zim art#doodles#iz zim#zim iz#iz dib#iz dib membrane#zadf#iz zadf#invader zim zadr#zim#zim fanart#invader zim dib#dib iz#cuffed#iz cuffed AU#invader zim au#iz au#implied zadr#hinted zadr#kidnapping mention
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Imagine if instead of creating Clembrane to replace Dib's dad Zim cloned Dib himself to try to replace him with a harmless fake while he kept the real Dib trapped in his lab where no one would look for him. Kinda like the comic where GIR replaced Dib. Where Zim programmed Clembrane to make pudding and ground Dib, Zim has programmed Clib to act like he and Zim have buried the hatchet and become best friends. Dib is forced to watch on the video screens in Zim's lab as Clib goes to skool in his place and spends all day telling everyone that Zim is super cool and definitely not an alien and he was a dookie-brained dirt monkey for ever thinking so. Zim sends Clib home to Dib's house in his place and Dib has to watch his dad totally accept Clib as his real son without out an ounce of suspicion and even praise him for saying what he wants to hear about giving up on the paranormal. Gaz sees what's going on but just doesn't care. Clib invites Zim into the house so he can tear apart Dib's room, destroy his evidence, and put some evil alien science doohickey on Membrane's latest invention.
Of course, as you'd expect, inevitably that Dib DNA proves just too strong for Zim's programming and he starts behaving more like the real Dib. He randomly starts throwing insults into the mix when he's supposed to be singing Zim's praises, acts like he's giving him a friendly pat on the back but then pushes him into traffic, and deliberately fucks up and sabotages Zim's latest evil scheme he was supposed to help with. Eventually, Clib breaks completely free of Zim's influence and rushes to the lab to liberate the real Dib.
At first Dib and Clib are a little unsure how to feel about the situation. How are the two meant to both exist at once? What do they tell their dad? Will he accept both of them? Maybe he will, and that'd be kind of awesome. It'd be like having a twin brother, except it's another him, which means they like the same things and think the same way, so they'll always get along. But just as the two of them start getting excited about finally having someone in their life who gets them and who they can share their passion for the paranormal with, Clib deteriorates into a puddle of goo, due to being an unstable creation. Zim shrugs, "Oh well." Dib is devastated. He slunks out of Zim's house. Zim cluelessly asks if they're still on for some activity he and Clib promised to do together later. Dib chucks an object at Zim's head. The final, incredibly disturbing gag of the episode is GIR licking Clib's remains off the floor.
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I am vengeful at this show for making Stolas sympathetic in any way
#Sure his childhood was shitty#Sure he was in an arranged marriage#Sure there are (maybe) hints that he was being physically abused I guess#But he failed to take his daughter’s feelings into account when she admitted something like his cheating was taking a toll on her#He’s commiting statutory rape weekly#He hardly treats Blitzo like a person#He’s racist#Their relationship in general is extremely toxic and an imbalance in power dynamics#They’re unhealthy codependent#And Blitzo showed no signs he was into Stolas until like episode five maybe#Their relationship is fucked up and#Fine I’ll say it it’s a similar problem to ZaDr where they don’t need romance to heal they legit need therapy or anything else#Also Stolas is a shit father I Don’t care what you say#He loves his daughter obviously but he’s not there for her emotionally#Anyway this is a Stolitzo/Stolas hate post#Have a nice day#Helluva Boss#Helluve Boss criticism#Stolitzo criticism m
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DAY ONE FOR @alt-zadr-b1tch3z ALT ZADR WEEK!!!! :D !!! WE ARE STARTING UP WITH ANIME AU!
Made them into a magazine and learned a bit of Japanese (uh thru a prob bad translator and some research -_-)
And a sketch with color I wanted to add with the anime AU prompt with that hint of scene! So happy drawing now!
#invader zim#they’re both adult in this#zadr#zim x dib#zadr art#alt-zadr-week#art#zadr week#iz fanart#iz anime#artist on tumblr#iz zadr
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I posted 2,031 times in 2022
That's 1,935 more posts than 2021!
38 posts created (2%)
1,993 posts reblogged (98%)
Blogs I reblogged the most:
@smartzelda
@determinators
@zozzlez
@taterforlife
@reynaruina
I tagged 1,567 of my posts in 2022
Only 23% of my posts had no tags
#invader zim - 447 posts
#zim - 392 posts
#dib - 340 posts
#zadr - 276 posts
#deltarune - 207 posts
#mlp - 163 posts
#my little pony - 162 posts
#discord - 146 posts
#fluttershy - 141 posts
#fluttercord - 137 posts
Longest Tag: 40 characters
#domestic drabbles of discord's dimension
My Top Posts in 2022:
#5
Discord: Shy... you've been cuddling with me for over an hour now. Fluttershy: *muffled* mm hmmm :) Discord: Ugh. I should be annoyed but you're adorable.
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Fluttershy: Damn, the power went out. Discord: Don’t worry, I got this. Discord: *shakes rapidly and starts to light up* Fluttershy: What-? Discord: I swallowed a glow stick! Fluttershy, on the verge of tears: WHY WOULD YOU-
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Discord: *Pulls a glass a water from out of nowhere* Fluttershy: Where did you get that? Discord: My pocket. Fluttershy: How do you keep a glass of water in your pocket? Discord: Skills.
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Discord: Since we're in a relationship now, your clothes are my clothes too. Don't ask me why I have your shirt on, this is our shirt. Fluttershy: Fine, but when I come strutting in with your fuzzy socks I don't want to hear anything.
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Discord: Yeah, I don’t like ponies. Fluttershy: Oh, well now that’s not fair, Discord. Have you met all of them? Discord: I’ve met enough of them. Ponies. What a bunch of jerks!
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#4
So, the Encanto fandom has collectively agreed that Dolores is very invested in Bruno’s rat telenovelas.
And I have something I’d like to add: Dolores enjoys listening to said telenovelas to help her fall asleep. By focusing on a story of drama and impossible romance, she’s able to block out every other sound that she can hear in the town, and is able to peacefully nod off.
Bruno eventually notices that his niece seems to fall asleep faster and rest better on nights that he��“plays” an episode. So he shifts his schedule a bit, always waiting until Dolores is in bed before starting a show, and choosing one of her favorite arcs to focus on if he notices that a day has been particularly rough on her.
When he finally leaves the walls, he puts on the shows in-person for her for a few nights before bed, or in his room so that she can at least listen. He probably even gives hints to Mariano, who starts to quietly recite his poetry before bed so that Dolores has something calming to listen to if her tío couldn’t make an episode that night.
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#3
Discord: When have I ever done anything rash or irresponsible? Fluttershy: I keep a list. It's alphabetized.
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Discord: People treat me like a god. Fluttershy: What? How? Discord: They ignore my existence until they need something from me
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Fluttershy: *eating a cinnamon roll* Discord: Cannibalism. Fluttershy: *confused chewing noises*
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Fluttershy: You have no idea what I'm capable of. Discord: Do not take this personally, but I feel like I'm being threatened by a cupcake.
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Discord: Hey, is this seat taken? Fluttershy: Yes, this seat is for my best friend only. Discord: *starts looking away, sad* Fluttershy: You know I mean you, right? Discord: *beams happily*
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#2
Zim: Your existence is confusing. Dib: How so? Zim: Your presence is incredibly annoying but the thought of anything bad happening to you upsets me.
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Dib: Welp, time to move on to Plan 2. Zim: Don't you mean Plan B? Dib: That would insinuate that I only have 26 plans.
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Zim: I invited you all here today because I crave the deadliest game. Dib, nodding: Knife monopoly. Zim: ... I was actually planning on hunting you for sport but now I'm really interested in whatever Knife Monopoly is
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Dib: Alright, any questions? Zim: Why aren't there uppercase and lower case numbers? Dib: Dib: What? Zim: I WANT TO WRITE LOUD NUMBERS
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Zim: You played me like a fiddle!! Dib: Oh no, fiddles are hard to play. I played you like the cheap kazoo you are.
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My #1 post of 2022
Fluttershy: Do you take constructive criticism? Discord: I only take cash or credit.
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Fluttershy: Please, I'm begging you go to a doctor. Discord: I'm sorry is this OUR stab wound? Stay out of it.
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Discord: You're the love of my life and my best friend, I would do anything for you. Fluttershy: I want you to eat three meals a day and have a decent sleep schedule. Discord: Absolutely not.
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Fluttershy: Discord, stop! This isn't you, you've gone mad with power! Discord: Well of course I have. Discord: Have you ever tried going mad without power? Discord: It's boring.
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Fluttershy: Stop buying plastic skeletons for Halloween! It's terrible for the environment! Discord: Yeah! Locally sourced, all natural skeletons are much more environmentally friendly!
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Galactic Hunters’ relationship ramble
When I look back at it
I should’ve expect how hunters go how the way they are at times
Especially where I first join fandoms and read stuff, at my core, will always see them (Zim and Dib) as enemies to besties that still bickering. Hunters was start by me want to have an au that they run off together, have their own business, and slowly finally become friends
And at that same time I also adore what some of the fandom do them (Zim and Dib) in romantic sense too. Not as I like I see it in canon; but more so as someone who love to read fic of ships that I not invest and want to see what the people write. Because I know there’s so many good fucking writing on the things I might not like or neutral about it. Like it can be cute and also so character analysis in the way make me goes, ok yall convince me.
It something silly that I didn’t think about it as much.
My top favorite of the dynamic that people write them is more so of QPR (Zadr QPR have all my fucking heart as a demi ace mfer) like the Paklet au or them being absolutely besties (SPACE JUNK ZADF MY DAMN BELOVED)
But there also stuff like the War of Doom, the Last Irken, Curious Dib, and that one zadr fic of them going to space black market (which later become a reference to honestly one of the most influential arc of Hunters but I didn’t get a chance to show on main blog because things goes so fast that I can’t draw on time)
Heck at first the little hint of HD (Seeker) use to have one sided crush on Zim is from me leaving a silly little reference to my respect for zadr content writers that write so well that I interest as a concept. But for me, Hunters was my corner of want to draw them slowly being friends, even how much bickering they are -__-
And then
Seeker did it again, the fucking bastards fall in pale. It not pitch or spade but It still a romance in the quadrant system. That man somehow fall for the stupid bug, THREE TIME IN HIS SHORT 27 YEARS OF A LIFE. And I was absolutely terrified because BRO MY FUCKING PLAN!! WHY YOU FUCKED MY PLAN UP????
And by Zim’s character since beginning, I know he is capable of falling in love, which later be Knelt and I was fucking right that he can.
At least it pale, pale is the closest to QPR, it should be great for me!! Zadr QPR was the favorite content I got in the fandom!!
….and things spiral…
The whole aphobe attack on hunters blog, Seeker make a choice to not show more of his softness to the bug on main. And basically lock 85% of the development behind the close door in process because they don’t feel comfortable at the time.
And things change again
Their relationship become so annoyingly complicated for me who try to organize the plot and stuff. But, that not how Galactic Hunters will do. They do whatever they want. Break my limit with my arts that I probably never gonna show on main unless on Patreon bc I’m still shy heck.
They in all the damn quadrants at once, a fucking disaster of a situationship that they both happily embrace all the chaos. Be the most “I want to make him worst and I will take him back up to the star”. And I absolutely adore it!!! They are such a disaster that give me absolutely HEADACHE, but their bond is so strong that I still think (even Seeker think) that romance is not even a word.
It a fucking devotion.
Their disaster of want each other to fill all the quadrant even tho they are pale is so thems to do. Mutually obsession of want to put themselves it every relationship they can because they are each other’s. They both pissed each other off, riled each other up, and calm all the storm in their soul.
Desperately want to be each other’s everything.
Now after all of this, I slowly come to terms of them go to flush at times, but always back in pale. But I still kinda scare. After the whole aphobe attack on blog, I fucking terrified how people react. I want to show thems to the world and be absolutely brainrot over thems together.
But…. There’s so much I didn’t get to show the blog of how they are behind closed doors, the developments, and how far they come. From self destruction, want to be better, over correcting themself, to embrace the madness of their relationship. I want to show but also there so much
Heck, sometime I feel like Hunters are more so are my OC now with how Seeker is not wish to be called by his old name now. I still find the way to turn them fully into my own OC and alternate the close door development that I never get to show on blog. But the multiverse thing will probably happen to the oc version, which is what cause the change to the hunters in the first place.
I just in a debate,
Should I find the way to back track the development to show on the hunters blog somehow?
Or
just keep that development when I finally turn thems into oc with their own story?
Well, I still don’t know how backtrack the arc to put on the blog, but I still want to show why these two (now plus Knelt) make me so unwell in the best way possible. They mean a lot and I want everyone to go absolutely ballistic with me
#heck knows how I’m gonna tell their story#I just…thems#thems make me so unwell#absolutely brainrot#maybe I’m just…lonely?#the galactic hunters#ly’s talk
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Zim is 100% an adult. This is really shouldn't be up for debate, Jhonen has stated that Zim is older than any living human and Zim has made statements hinting at such in the show itself ("I've been flying ships since before you were born, you sad little Earth Monkey" - quote from NanoZim, literally the third episode of the series).
Jhonen has also made it clear on a few different occasions that Zim is an adult by his species standards, and not just a child of a long lived race like some fans have suggested. In the commentary for Megadoomer he said (I'm paraphrasing) "Zim's rivalry with Dib is sad, because he's basically an old man."
All that having been said, though I do hate ZADR (Zim and Dib Romance) and voted for it as the worst ship, my hatred of it has nothing to do with the age gap.
I'm not an anti and can separate fiction from reality, and there are a lot of age gap ships I DO like in other media. Plus, hating a ship based on one being an Adult and the other being a kid is kinda dumb, when you can just like... Time skip and age the characters up. It's especially dumb in ZaDR's case since it's not like Zim will physically be any older when Dib is an adult. Irkens age slowly so he will look the same. If you would be willing to ship Zim with, say, Membrane on the premise that they are both adults even if Zim is probably hundreds of years old, then theoretically you should have no problem shipping Zim with Dib once the latter ages into an adult.
Instead, my reasons for hating ZaDR are as follows:
1. Personal preference when it comes to genders when shipping. I am straight guy - therefore yaoi has zero appeal to me. I'm only into straight ships and Yuri.
2. I don't like / understanding shipping characters that canonically hate each other. Mind you, I'm not talking about characters that are simply enemies due to ideological reasons, but who's feelings are not as strong as hate, and even flirt or have feelings for each other in canon (ala Batman x Catwoman, or Esdeath loving Tatsumi in Akame ga Kill) I'm talking characters that ACTUALLY hate each other. Zim and Dib may have a few frenemy situations, but they are outnumbered by the moments where Zim legit tries to kill Dib, Dib delights in the idea of Zim being dissected, or go out of their way to screw over or make the other miserable in the most petty of ways.
3. Irkens, as a species, are canonically aroace. They are born from test tubes, and have no genitalia or understanding of sexual desire.
Jhonen has also stated they have no concept of romance. Even friendship seems a foreign concept to them. We can see that in the episode Bestest Friends and Jhonen has stated in a Q&A that (once again, paraphrasing since I don't have the exact quote ready) "the closest thing to camaraderie among Irkens is the mutual understanding of 'I'll try not to accidentally trample you death when rushing to the taco stand since we're supposed to be on the same side'"
I'll admit, I suppose it's not out of the question that individual Irkens could be exception to the aroace part if their brains / paks happen to work differently. Tak, for example, has been theorized to be a defective since she seems more creative and emotionally intelligent than most Irkens, and since she's only in one episode, it's harder to have a full grasp on her character to say for sure she couldn't fall for someone (Tak x Dib is pretty much the only Invader Zim ship I have some fondness for.)
But that really does not seem to be the case for Zim. Though he's shown some degree of complexity, such as a fondness for some of his robot henchmen like GIR and Minimoose, nothing in the show, Netflix special or comics leaves me to believe that those differences go as far as a capacity and desire for romance.
I could maybe see Zim and Dib being friends in some alternate universe if you REALLY stretch Zim's capacity for self reflection (of which he has none in canon) but never lovers
Also, tbh, I don't think my hatred of ZaDR would be so strong if it didn't take up such a huge portion of Invader Zim fanart, fan fiction and fan discussion. Its annoying to shift through the the ZaDR content when searching the Invader Zim tag on Tumblr, deviantart, AO3 and other sites. It just makes my disdain for it even stronger.
Which controversial ship is the best
Explanations under the cut!
Galadriel/Halbrand (Lord of the Rings: Rings of Power) 60 reblogs - 5614 words total.
I didn't read it but it's something about homophobia and racism and misogyny if you like or dislike the ship, i'm not sure which one.
Katara/Aang (Avatar The Last Airbender) 58 comments - 65 reblogs - 796 words.
The arguing actually happened on the Katara/Zuko poll, but it was about this ship. Mostly Zutara shippers complaining about Kataang shippers but i saw maybe 2 kataang shippers in the comments. I repeat: Kataang is on here because it was incredibly controversial on my blog
Laios/Toshiro (Dungeon Meshi) A few comments and reblogs, 228 words out of what I can count + someones 644 word post that was linked to me.
The reason for this is because I jokingly used the tag "shuro has the worst case of allistic disease i've ever seen", because the way he exploded at Laios reminded me of the experiences i've had with allistic people who secretly hate me but never told me. This means I hate asian people and think only white men can be autistic.
Shiro/Keith (Voltron: Legendary Defender) 43 comments
This ship is pseudo-incest and a man grooming a teenager because they met when Keith was an unspecified younger age and Shiro was an unspecified older age. I'm gonna pass away
Zim/Dib (Invader Zim) A few comments and an ask but it stopped quickly
I haven't watched Invader Zim, but I allowed it on the premise that Zim is seen as a child (because I don't like adult/child ships obv). But Zim's age is a big debate.
Yugi Mutou/Yami Yugi (Yu-Gi-Oh) Many reblogs saying the same thing about me
I haven't watched the anime. I saw the same guy twice with the same name and tagged it as "selfcest" incase someone had the tag filtered. This singular tag caused multiple comments and reblogs telling me that it's not selfcest and that it's offensive to DID systems to call it selfcest. I almost snapped here, honestly.
Time to vote! Explode my notes if you want, there's multiple good choices to pick from.
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I cant get enough of an angry Zim. Probably being tsundere as usual.
#zim#hinted zadr#zadr#fanart#angst#invader zim#invader angst#invader#I love the colors I used here#where my big headed boy at
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Crazy to think ZADR isn't even the weirdest thing I've ever shipped and the actual weirdest thing I ship is canon.
#zadr#god bless#michael dougherty#for making#mothzilla#canon#without a hint of irony#the same year jjerrio pussied out on reylo
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scarletflowers - Reaching for the Stars
It's a pretty recent fic, but it's already pretty solid
Hedhehogsquadgoals - Nullified!
The humor is really on point with this one, it takes ZIM's actions seriously, and it expends the world
Smeetfeet's works
Just their fics in general, I love the writing style
Turbomun - Invader ZIM and The Kri Society
I like the characterization of the ocs, the development of the canon characters and the Irken lore/biology the author came up with, it's a very easy read
luverofralts - Some Things Are Just Meant To Be
A reincarnation story, it makes me cry every time I read it
Evildents - Training Wheels
The writing is melancholic there
The works of PaganBeetle
One of them mostly just mentions ZaDr, the most important part of the story Gaz and ZIM hanging out
Dodger_Bunny - Double Loser Truce
This one also has excellent ZaGF and found family dynamic, and I like that it plays into Gaz's artistic side
PaleNoFace - Smeet Army AU
If you like them having kids aus, this one is worth checking it out, but it has flashbacks with them without the kids, but if the Membrane family tries their best interest you the most the I Can Get Myself Back Together (With a Little Help) is the one I recommend from the series
Klei - Height Treason
This is just a classic, it's really funny, it gets the characters and it subverts some expectations in a way that feels natural
Hopeless_1322 - Five First Dates and a Matchmaking Robot
Pretty lighthearted, love the situations ZIM gets himself into while trying so hard, so Dib gets the hint already
Aperfecttimeforscreaming (GraveCounselor) - Space Trash
Even if the story wasn't interesting (it is), the writing style is amazing and it is accompanied by a fitting artstyle
bachmanroad - Love is a Verb
I love the premise and the author takes a great advantage of it
No Gods, No Monsters - Chipper-daily
Pretty similar to the previous one with the setup, but both of them are uniquely written
Chubbysluggie - An Irken's Purpose
An interesting story about ZIM learning to move on, him and Dib are going after paranormal together...
i was thinking about reading iz fanfics for the first time, does anyone have some zadr to recommend to me? :3 (especially if prof membrane is a good father? (and even more specifically if he is taking the first steps to becoming one? 🥺))
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Here is some old Zim art I made about a year ago 🙃 he is questioning his feelings for Dib and Gir is being supportive ❤
#invaderzim#iz zim#traditional art#tan paper#color pencil#hinting at zadr#zadr#gir#iz gir#smhmehbleh
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Dib gets to enjoy the endless joy of sibling teasing, as well as Gaz and his own brain yelling at him to take a hint.
#dib will#in fact#not take the hint#Invader Zim#zadr#my writing#god I love this#I'll get to the royalty au again soon#but I needed a breather#and I did#this#hhhhh
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I hope y’all don’t mind if I were to...
CREATE A NEW INVADER ZIM AU
Haha jk jk....
Unless...
#invader zim#zadf#new au#imvader zim au#without you au#this’ll be a Zadf AU#with hints of Zadr but it could just be a great bromance#cause really#is it really a friendship if it aint borderline gay?
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ok i’m abt to go through the notes to check on takliker i better not see any z/drs
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My thoughts on ZADR:
I’m completely neutral on it. I don’t hate it, I don’t mind seeing it, but I also don’t actively ship it (although this is mostly because I like the idea of Zim being aroace and not because I dislike the ship itself). And here’s why.
DISCLAIMER! VERY BIG DISCLAIMER!
I am not a proshiper. If you ship pedophilic or incestuous shit, you will get no defence here. Get lost and don’t come back. I’ve seen enough shit in other fandoms already.
I’m saying this because ZADR is believed by many to be a proship, which is why many people dislike it. When in reality, ZADR isn’t a proship and I explain why in this post.
I just wanted to say this to reiterate that I am not a proshiper, nor do I condone proshiping. I’m constantly paranoid about people getting the wrong idea or misinterpreting me and really want to avoid that. I’m not looking for drama or a fight. That being said, if you ship pedophilic stuff, incestuous stuff, beastiality or any of that horrible stuff, get the fuck off my blog. You aren’t welcome here.
DISCLAIMER OVER!
Now onto why ZADR (and other ships involving irkens) isn’t a proship or anything really worth throwing a fit over.
Dib is canonically 12 years old. That’s a fact. But the thing is, while Dib has a canonical age, Zim doesn’t, and never will. Zim’s age is up to viewer interpretation.
Zim’s age, despite what many people believe, isn’t set in stone.
Zim’s age was never mentioned in canon. In fact, not a single irken has ever had their age revealed.
The wiki seems to have pulled the “Zim is 160 in human years and 16 in irken years” fact out of its ass because I can’t find a source for it anywhere, plus the wiki has a tendency to make stuff up and present it as fact with no evidence. So it isn’t a reliable source of information in any way.
Jhonen has stated Zim’s age three different times (that I know of), and he’s changed his answer every time, calling Zim a child, an adult and a teenager. So he obviously doesn’t have a clue of what Zim’s age is and most likely never really meant to give Zim a canonical age in the first place when he created the show. So not even the creator of the show himself is a reliable source of information when it comes to Zim’s age.
Although Zim’s age is never explicitly mentioned, we get some possible small hints in canon. HOWEVER, these hints all contradict each other and can go either way in proving that Zim is a child or an adult.
Zim could be an adult because he has a high ranking military job that seems impossible for a child to achieve (an invader, at least before his first banishment) plus he worked as a scientist before, so he’s held multiple adult jobs. He also seems to be the same height as other (presumably) adult irkens. He also has a long history involving his scientist job, his joining of the military and his entire work up the military hierarchy to become an invader, plus his banishment to Foodcourtia, which probably all happened over a long course of time. He’s also allowed to pilot a ship and other various vehicles, which, assuming that irkens follow the same sort of rules for ships as we do for cars, shouldn’t be given to children. It’s also revealed in The Trial that irkens can live for several centuries.
But on the other hand, Zim could very easily be a child or a teenager because the empire may use child soldiers, which does have some possible evidence like Smeets graduating at the age of 10, irken military equipment seeming similar to video games and the fact that the irken empire is a power hungry dictatorship. It would also explain why Zim chose to infiltrate Earth by posing as a human child attending a human school, along with the immaturity and pettiness that Zim shows throughout the series. Not to mention the fact that Zim is directly implied to be particularly young by irken standards, with the Tallest mentioning in The Trial that Zim is supposed to have a trial in several centuries, but they chose to force it to happen now, implying that Zim hasn’t hit the age where a trial usually happens, which is presumably adulthood or later. Zim being a child or a teenager also explains why the Tallest are so immature, as they are the same age as Zim, so if he’s not an adult but is instead a child/teenager, the Tallest are as well.
So the evidence goes both ways. Zim’s age is entirely up to viewer interpretation. If you believe that Zim is an adult, he’s an adult. If you believe that he’s a child, he’s a child. If you believe that he’s a teenager, he’s a teenager. Zim’s age is a literal question mark, and unless new, official content is released that explicitly confirms Zim’s age, that’s not going to change. As mentioned before, Jhonen Vazquez, despite being the creator of the show, isn’t a reliable source because he’s contradicted himself at least three times now and doesn’t seem to have given Zim (or any irken for that matter) a canonical age in the first place.
And going by those rules when you look at ZADR, you quickly realize that the entire dynamic of ZADR and every other ship involving irkens in any way also depends entirely on viewer interpretation. If you interpret Zim as being a child that’s a similar age to Dib, he’s a child that’s a similar age to Dib. If you interpret Zim as being an adult, he’s an adult. Zim’s age is a blank space that you can fill out however you want.
ZADR is only a pedophilic proship between a child and an adult if you believe that it is a ship between a child and an adult and/or you actively make it that way when making the content, because Zim’s age is whatever you say it is. A random number generator could be used to decide Zim’s age and it would be equally canon as everyone else’s opinions regarding Zim’s age, including the words of Jhonen himself.
So long story short, ZADR isn’t a problematic ship unless you make it a problematic ship or it is explicitly mentioned to be a problematic ship in whatever work of fiction you’re seeing it in. So just don’t make a big deal of it and ignore it if you don’t like it.
#invader zim#ZaDR#I’m making this post because every time the invader Zim fandom gains a bunch of new members#they almost immediately declare ZaDr a proship and start getting into fights with older members#and I’m tired of seeing it happen again and again#Zadr is only a proship if you decide that it is a proship#it’s Schrodinger’s proship#this is what happens when characters are not given canonical ages and are implied to be children and adults simultaneously#it is left up to viewer interpretation to decide because there is no canonical answer#this is coming from a person that doesn’t care in the slightest about shipping in any way so you know it’s genuine#I am panicking over posting this because I’m scared of sharing my opinion online#especially something like this because this kind of stuff is how flame wars happen#do people even use the phrase ‘’flame war’’ anymore or am I using that completely wrong?
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Dibs blind and I think zims pissed. Have a crappy photo drawn of an otp dressed as another otp. Also whats shading 😂.
#zadr#zadr as lapidot#lapidot#not really lapidot but I guess its hinted#invader zim#zim#dib membrane
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