#hes got a specific vibe that is very hard for me to pin down accurately
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HCs about Sleep Token's eyes
They all have horrendous eye bags. yes all of them.
they also all have reflective eyes bc its creepy and I like it. I think it's hot. If someone shines a light on them in a group, it looks smth like this:
Vessel
Vessel's eyes look brown from far away, but they are just really a dark red. Their shape is very feline with a very prominent lower lash line, and usually his pupils are slitted. They are especially prominent in the sunlight. His pupils will often contract and dilate with his emotions like a cat. If he's really pissed off, they will contract to a needle's point. But if he's really, really happy his pupils will blow so wide you can barely even see the iris.
believe it or not vessel does not have angry eyes, they are just very intense. He has eyes like a predator, like a snake or just any dangerous animal, really.
making eye contact with him is hard because his eyes are kind of unnerving, in a good way kind of? (Listen I'm trying to not make this sound really weird, ok?) His eyes look other-worldly and omniscient; like if you make eye contact, he will know everything about you.
especially at rituals, because under Sleep's influence they will glow gold. It's part of the reason he wears the mask.
I also HC that he has sort of siren-like abilities (I'll go more into that in another post), and his eyes play a role in that.
If you look closely, you can see a very tiny rim of gold around his pupil, but most of the time it will look copper or bronze because of dim lighting.
They look hauntingly beautiful and dangerous.
ii
ii has very large eyes, not like bug eyes or anything, they are just very prominent. They have a very wide shape, with very dark lashes. His eyes almost look Vanta-black. They absorb all the light around them. ii got that boba eyes autism stare.
His irises are also very large, leaving little room for the white.
he looks almost bored or sad all the time bc his eyes are kind of droopy. They often look misty like he's somewhere else mentally.
he has the best puppy dog eyes bc when he tears up it is gut wrenching (the watery eyes make him look not super creepy, and kind of like a baby cow)
He is not hard to make eye contact with like Vessel is, it's hard to keep eye contact with him. He will stare you down for what it seems like forever (in reality tho he just really doesn't blink that often and is probably zoned tf out).
when he feels intense emotions, his pupils turn slitted and white; that's when his eyes look really creepy. This has only happened on few occasions though, so the sight is rare.
also, his tears are black bc I said so and it looks sick asf
iii
iii has very pretty doe eyes
They shift in color with the light depending on the angle you look at them. He has little tiny flecks of iridescent white in them. You can only see them if you get really close though *cough cough* VESSEL *cough*
he probably has the most "normal" eyes out of all of them, honestly.
His eyes look very kind, like a mother, but also very tiered. He gives a lot of himself to others, and it really shows in his eyes if that makes any sense? (I literally don't know how to explain it I'm sorry)
iii has the most long and beautiful lashes you've ever seen on a human being (jealous fr oh my god. and are any of them even human anyway?)
His eyes are just so beautiful it's hard to look away, and in the sunlight, they almost glow. He's got them Gojo Satoru anime eyes
He's the only one of them who's eyes aren't super off-putting in some way. they're still kinda creepy, just like, the least creepy.
iv
iv's eyes are angry and stern. His eyes are like the fallen angel painting (the one by Alexandre Cabanel). He's not actually that pissed off all the time, he just has major resting bitch face.
His eyes are a pale-ice blue, with the pupils being a slightly darker blue. Around the edge of the iris is a dark rim, with that being the darkest part of his eyes. His upper lash line is the most prominent, with his lower lash line looking kind of red; and his eyebrows sit very low.
Instead of his pupils contracting, the rim around his irises will instead. In emotionally intense moments, the rim will close so far over the irises that his pupils look like little white dots.
His eyes are sharp, and predator-like, similar to vessel. He doesn't have the "alure" that Vessel has, just the "dangerous" look if that makes sense.
He is generally the more stoic type, but you can see in his eyes that he holds on to a lot of anger or just any intense emotion in general. He has a hard time letting go of things.
In more vulnerable moments, his eyes look like he's pleading or begging. He looks a little scared, like he might get hurt.
#ii really said AUTISM STARE BLAST#iii and iv have the blue-eyed stare#ik vessel's is the longest. Im not playing favs or anything I just couldn't describe his eyes in a normal way#hes got a specific vibe that is very hard for me to pin down accurately#sleep token headcannons#sleep token vessel#sleep token iii#sleep token ii#sleep token iv#writing#headcannons#sleep token#my writing
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I can’t believe we got a Kup design for TFP, which was basically a re-deco of WFC Ironhide, and I don’t think it was used for anything aside from an RID figure in like 2012
that having been said, WFC/TFP Kup would probably not have been super kid-friendly, thinking in terms of the general target demographic/TV audience for TFP, lmao
notice how they kept the facemask on him, possibly to help justify why he isn’t constantly chewing on a cigar in this continuity LOL
I don’t really think the WFC Ironhide design works that well when re-deco’d for Kup, but then, I’m so used to him being a grey-green-teal cygar chomping rectangle of a bot that I fully admit anything else is jarring to me, lmao
also the specific shade of green is a bit weird to me; I like green on most bots that feature it as a primary paint colour, and TFP Bulkhead’s green works great, but idk, the green they used here just seems a little bit too lime-coloured?
it just seems like a very bright tone when accented with the light metallic silver, and that doesn’t really read as “old beat up bot” to me; it seems a little too fresh or clean, if that makes sense???? maybe if they covered him in superficial battle damage like scratches on his armour etc. it would fit a little better for the character. it just reads as young to me, for some reason. (and the faceplate is very G1 Wheeljack-like, which is also a little jarring, although I like the way it’s applied on the actual face model here with the angles carrying up into the optics which then lines up with the helmet centrepiece. it just doesn’t read as Kup to me, either.)
but then, TFP somehow never really had a solid toy line, so IDK I feel like Hasbro really screwed the Aligned Continuity in general when it came to figures. still blows my mind that we somehow never really got a full, complete line up of the basic main character bots.
the sun has gone down, so here’s where I rant briefly about TFP’s comparatively shitty toy releases lmao
especially as there is absolutely a good number of people who would love a TFP release of figures, like holy shit, how did THIS show not get a strong toy line???? it’s so bizarre to me lmao
like TFA had some great figures (Shockwave/Longarm in particular was cool as hell) and Cyberverse had some really killer ones too (I really like the Grimlock design from that lineup) but they just dropped the ball with TFP/Aligned designs/figures
not even gonna talk about RID because I’m still pissed off about so much of that content lmao, I just think about how they made Bumblebee a dipshit bigoted cop in that series and I physically recoil away from anything produced under that whole branding line altogether lmao, god dammit :(
people are losing their shit right now over the RED Series Knockout figure, which looks pretty screen-accurate and it’s fucking incredible, and it’s like, whyyyyy did they not do this kind of thing with TFP/Aligned designs to begin with, why are they only just testing the waters right now like a decade or more later??? please Hasbro, let us have this lmao
ANYWAY, BACK TO KUP
I’m not intentionally trying to be down on the TFP Kup design or anything, it just doesn’t read as Kup to me all that much. hard to pin it down, but I think it comes down mostly to the overall design just deviating perhaps a bit too much from what made Kup visually distinct from others (I get that he’s a re-deco here, but was the Ironhide model the most appropriate to re-deco into Kup? I’m not sure, there were so few overall figures for this line that options were limited, sigh...) and the fact that his paint tones and overall vibe just doesn’t read as an old, war-hardened, beat up gruff guy to me.
IDK this is probably just down to individual interpretation, but let me know what y’all think, I’d be interested to hear if anyone feels like this design works for Kup’s character within the context of the general WFC/Aligned Continuity designs or not! :)
that having been said, where’s my TFP episode where Kup shows up, immediately starts trashing shit with Wheeljack and Bulkhead, fifteen minutes later Miko’s asking Ratchet what a “cy-gar” is and he finally loses his shit alongside Ultra Magnus who was already begging Optimus to make it stop, lmao
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Beloved Rung?
favorite thing about them: this is a weirdly hard thing to pin down? (appropriate, hah.) i don't know rung is a character i like for one specific thing or trait; he's broadly just... appealing to me. i guess part of it is that at least in a fandom context, he's a character i basically always find interesting to throw at someone else, i think in part because rung is a character who by virtue of his driving motivations is one i'm always able to imagine engaging them in some capacity. which is really what i'm All About, that opportunity to throw unexpected character interactions together, so maybe that's it. also like, he ties into the Themes TM of the whole thing in multiple ways (memory, legacy, what constitutes power/lack thereof), so...
least favorite thing about them: it's not that jro doesn't know how to write a therapist per se, i think. it's that he realised very quickly how incredibly annoying writing one remotely accurately specifically in a narrative like MTMTE/LL was. it would probably work to the character's detriment much less if jro had gone "eh, fuck it" and just not bothered trying to make it realistic as opposed to trying to play it both ways, but what we got was very wishy washy and i can see where it throws a lot of people when taken as written re: rung being Kind Of A Shitty Psychiatrist. (except he's... a therapist? except he's DEFINITELY a medical professional. uh. yeah, well, as I said.)
favorite line: his conversation with rodimus after the overlord incident always stands out to me.
random headcanon: oh this is one i was talking about with @sauntervaguelydown recently so I can't take credit but i LOVE it and want to share: the reason the "rung is forgettable" thing is so inconsistent is that it only takes effect when rung is physically with someone, because that's how the EMP functions. so the reason that e.g. Fort Max remembers to call is that since the last time he left the LL, they've spoken over comms, and he didn't forget that because he hasn't seen Rung since then. this then went into "rung and froid primarily knew each other via correspondence" a la jung and freud and then i made lots of jokes about how batshit jung and freud's letters are for like a week, haha.
unpopular opinion: i take issue with his death scene and the reveal overall in the comic as a lot of folks do, but it's not because i didn't like either in theory, it's just the execution i had issues with, and if anything i probably would have leaned way harder into the existential tragedy/horror angle there than anything.
song i associate with them: why! was this one so hard! oh fuck it have a Vibes instrumental, smoke rising like lifting hands - the oh hellos
favorite picture of them: this one
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I was wondering if there was a FAQ & beginners guide to this blog? I love the idea of an older Billy
Nnnot exactly! But I could make a quick summary of what's going on in this character's life as of right now for ya, anon! And anyone else that might come across this little blog since it's been growing.
Long post below.
Okay so... first of all, for the Frequently Asked Questions....I haven't really recieved any various questions about the same topic OOC, so, nothing to that I suppose.
(Slight TW for mentions of deceased pets)
I feel like I should talk a bit about the blog itself before going on about my muse, so here goes..
- Regarding asks, if I take a long time to reply to you, please be patient! I'm most likely not available at that moment or I'm not in the right mindset to play as my muse. There's quite a few of them that I still plan on making a small doodle for, before replying ;v;
- Most of the asks are going to be interpreted as telephone calls my muse will recieve(unless you point out whatever action or imply an action that is meant to be like- face-to-face) as a way to keep the whole 'unknown person on the line of the vintage telephone' vibe that Black Christmas has, except we know exactly who's on the line but shh.
- I don't want to pin this post since it's quite long, but I might create a special tag for this here so you know where to look, might add it to my list of other tags too.
Also, I think this is pretty obvious, but DNI:
If you are homophobic, racist, truscum, etc. the usual horrible things that people like me do not want on their sight.
Unkind and hostile reminder that if you infantilize/demonize/belittle/romanticize *ssault or any other type of physical abuse, s*lf h*rm, or any mental condition this character portrays, OP does not want you here.
And now, to shed some light on this interpretation of the boyo, so you have an idea:
- Billy's current timeline is not the modern time! If it was, he'd be pretty much long dead in 2021. This interpretation of the Moaner lives in the early 90's, more specifically: currently the same year as the release of Wes Craven's New Nightmare(in 1994). He is currently 59 years old, and it has been 20 years exactly ever since the events of Black Christmas(1974).
- this interpretation of Billy has a significant other! It's your usual ocxcanon. This whole old man Billy AU was created in the first place because I had this silly idea about this ship growing old together, and here we are. And before you assume, let me clarify: no. The oc has Not been made on purpose to be shipped with Billy(I have actually been working on him and his backstory since last year), and this blog is not going to focus a lot on this character, since it's meant to portray the fictional slasher in question. I was even planning on taking out my oc for the sake of 'keeping this blog as canon as possible' but decided against it since there's really nothing wrong with it, there's other people who've shipped ocs or self-inserts with slashers (if you think it's cringe, kindly consider unfollowing). For the most part, I ended up wanting to keep him as a cryptic 'room-mate', but I might shortly introduce him sooner or later...
Side note for those that showed interest in the past: As much as I thought on making a blog specifically for the oc, I decided not to, since ocs don't tend to get a lot of attention unless you're like- planning it out with friends and such. And I've still got to write down a lot about him, I'm not done figuring out his entire character and timelines of specific happenings😞
- Billy has two lovely new neighbors around! @singrobin and @marinacharkov (both ocs my friends decided to make to join in this funky old man's life)
- Agnes is alive! I may play as her at times since I feel like her character deserves a deeper look as well, but rarely(not necessarily in flashbacks or whatever past memory Billy has) since, again, this blog is specifically dedicated to portray Billy. But she no longer lives in Toronto or anywhere close, she's far away and far happier having left her old home behind. Jess and Barb are also alive(look I mcfuckin love Barbara and, while her death is the best and most iconic out of them all in the movie, I simply don't want to accept she's gone, so, in this interpretation, Billy's attack left her with major injuries, but she survived. That dramatic reveal as Jess opens the door to see both Barb and Phyl dead? I do not see it😌 I pretend it does not exist, I do not percieve it), Barb has too moved far away from Toronto, leaving Jess the only one still around there.
- One of the two kittens Billy owns is named 'Claude Jr.' , but he is not the original Claude, despite him always referring to him as just 'Claude' and taking out the 'Jr.' , the original has long since passed, and Billy hasn't gotten over his death(to the point where he blames himself for it), so he tries gaslighting himself into thinking that the kitten is actually the real Claude, just 'temporarily smaller'. So when he calls Claude, don't be fooled because it's not the same old cat you see in the movie.
- This interpretation of the Moaner is gay, and very much closeted about it. No matter how hard you try, he will not admit to it in public or to a stranger on the phone, the only thing you'll get out of him(if you insist) is a fit of rage before he hangs up on you, or a temper tantrum as he lectures you about how not gay he is via a perverted rant that sounds just about the same as the first phone call in the movie. Pig noises 2: electric boogaloo.
- This interpretation of Billy has to take medication for his mental conditions(medication that often affects his eating and sleeping habits).
And as for said mental conditions- I would still prefer not to share too much on them, not right now at least since 1- it's quite emotionally tiring for the OP, and 2- I would have to look up and study most of them again before coming in here and talking about it, because I need to be sure of what exactly it is I'm typing down because I want it to be accurate, right now it's all just sorta fumbled in my mind.
#*not in your attic ooc#billy lenz#aight so- this 'special tag' shall be....#//distinguishable christmas night...// taglist/info
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If you don't mind me asking, what makes you a Page of Heart? What made you come to that conclusion? I'm always curious about someone's reasonings for such matters and would like to hear yours! But only if you're okay with sharing, I know it's a very personal question!
I’m more than happy to answer this!
So, I should probably begin by saying that, personally, figuring out my Classpect was... hard. I have a tendency to put up fronts for various people in different situations, which made pinning down my actual personality difficult. I was at a point, a few years back, where I couldn’t say what my aesthetic was, what my style was, what my sona looked like, what my favourite colour was - because I genuinely couldn’t settle down on any one thing that I liked. I had no idea if blue represented me best, or orange, or if I liked the way a singular sona represented me.
It was a point in my life where I genuinely didn’t understand Heart enough to figure out who I was. I overcompensated by trying to position myself as specific things for people - a father-figure for my best friend, a stoic and capable partner for my boyfriend - and I actually relied really heavily on fictional characters to base my sense of identity around.
So, this made actually determining my Classpect part of my journey to figuring out the real one, in a weirdly paradoxical way. I spent so long trying to Classpect myself based on these facets of my personality that I never noticed the facets existed to begin with - yet, when I actually looked closer at them, the Page of Heart just... clicked.
Furthermore, I tended not to consider myself, and had a habit of letting myself suffer or let my own issues boil up in my desperation to be good for other people. I self-sacrificed for no good reason, and it tended to mean two big things happened:
- People came to me with every little issue they had, parked their anxieties with me, and left me fretting over them for the rest of the day because I didn’t realise they just needed to vent, and weren’t in actual danger (the part of a Page of Heart that just misunderstands situations and events, and has an incorrect Emotional response)
- I exploded on people over incredibly minor things further down the line, almost consistently when I was at my least emotionally stable, to the point that my boyfriend began to fear my montly (which always fucks me up) and my best friend begged me to see a therapist (the part of a Page of Heart that tends to overreact)
Though, to be fair, I’ve always struggled figuring out emotional consistency (which hits home on how Pages of Heart give disproportionate emotional responses). I tend to flit back and forth between extremes, which has led to... a lot of negative situations; me chasing after boys, screeching, for something as minor as calling me a “maneater”, or me having a severe mood drop after being cut off over something I was talking about, even if it wasn’t intentional.
This is what made me realise, after some thought, that I probably wasn’t a Mind Player. Heart is all about Impulsivity and Emotion, and I was definitely showing that over the concept of Logic and Distance. I was too Passionate, too Illogical, even though at first I thought I was just someone who maybe struggled with their Mind and ghosted Heart.
The problem was, Logic has never been my issue. I can be very Logical. I can think things through to a fault, I can even overthink, I can analyse and pick apart and tell you exactly what was going through my Mind at that exact point; it’s just that my Emotions were what overruled. It’s the Heart that I focused on most, and the part that I struggled to contain.
Pages of Heart start with a Lack of Heart - start with almost no understanding or power over Heart - and then get better and better at it as they go through life.
This is what pegged me into the idea of something like a Page, rather than a Bard and Prince. Because I was good at Heart-stuff, just not all the time.
I’m really good at figuring out peoples’ Emotions. I can read a situation pretty well (though it’s taken time for me to figure that out, and at first I almost always got it wrong), and I can pretty easily Classpect people with a fair amount of accuracy (which has come from me analysing people down to the ground and building up my own understanding of Heart over several years).
I accurately guessed what a new friend’s favourite animal, colour, and style was, despite not having spoken to them for long and having had no prior information about them. This, compared to several years ago, when I couldn’t tell my boyfriend what his favourite colour was even though he actively reblogged yellow things all the time.
I had a tendency to try and shove my nose into every problem a friend had because I wanted to be helpful. I thought I knew how to fix everything, knew how I could be the one to save the day, and I loved it whenever I was even vaguely right - though most of the time I was almost painfully wrong. I got into arguments with friends who just wanted to vent because I tried too hard to be empathetic and to help, or I related back to myself too much as an example.
I’m much better at that now. I can usually diffuse a situation without much issue, can pick up on when something’s wrong with most people, and have a much easier time connecting Emotionally now than I used to. I find that my advice tends to hit home to people more now that I can understand them and their needs better - and people tend to open up to me more now, too! But I’ve also gotten better at setting up my own boundries, and that... that helps a lot.
I think it’s also safe to say that I was a bit... super-obsessed with my likes and my passions.
I know, for sure, that I’ve pretended to be obsessed with something just to try and validate my own feelings. To connect that flimsy sense of identity, I’ve claimed that I love puppetry when I know nothing about it, or that I adore horses when at the time I was probably more connected to cats or rabbits.
I also know that I have been obsessed with things to the point that throughout my life, I’ve always had that one main fandom hyperfixation, and pretty much nothing else besides. I still like other things, of course - I just can’t get into them as much as that one hyperfixation I have. That, though, never stopped me from pretending I knew a bunch about Transformers for a friend.
All of what I’ve said above hits pretty much every point on Dahni’s Page of Heart analysis and Sylph of Hope’s Page of Heart analysis. I used these two sources to help me figure out my Classpect (with the assistance of my boyfriend, so that I wasn’t falling into the Page trappings of only picking up parts of my Identity), and especially reading Dahni’s post, it all just seemed to click.
My journey was to learn to be “balanced and sincere with their emotions, their affections, and with themselves”, to be “passionate, sincere and truly honest”. I have been fluctuating through such extremes throughout my life, with very little honesty towards myself or my identity - finally reading that, accepting that I have to settle down, to learn, and to take care of myself before I can truly help others? It’s made understanding who I am so much easier. It’s made being better for my friends, for this blog, for my family, so much easier.
Essentially, it felt like the challenge fit. And it’s a challenge I’m still facing, for sure - one that’s in no way been easy, and one I’ve definitely fucked up on a few times along the way - but I know that I’m becoming a better person now than I used to be by facing it.
I know my Classpect, now. I know the name I want to go by. I know the way I want to be seen. I know my favourite colour, my favourite animal, and I can say with some degree of certainty that I know what my aesthetic is. This improvement has meant so much to me. I have a stable sense of me in a way I didn’t have even just a few years ago.
That’s how I know I’m a Page of Heart, I think. I vibed with it, it explained parts of me I didn’t think anything really could, and the challenge has made me a better person.
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