#helmut marko mention

[youjustwaitsunshine]

entranced by whatever that rindt-marko-vettel web is. helmut marko and jochen rindt were best friends and raced together. sebastian vettel reminds helmut marko of jochen rindt. sebastian vettel is a great fan of jochen rindt. did seb become a rindt fan because marko told him stories of him. is marko obsessed with seb because he reminds him of his friend. i have so many questions. there's a story about rindt and marko driving to the german gp at the nürburgring and sleeping next to the track to get woken up by von trips and hill practicing in their ferraris the next morning and rindt looked at them and said to marko that that was what he wanted to do too, become a racing driver. cut to sebastian getting interviewed as a child saying "i would like to- no, i want to become an f1 driver"

[grogumaximus]

[tabbycatreads]

GUESS WHAT THE ESSAYS DONE

So its like 2k words lol

So let’s talk about Checo Perez and Logan Sargent’s treatment in F1. Checo is 34 and has been in the series since 2011 after a really successful early carer in both karting and the junior series. Logan Sargent is 23 and also had a very successful carer in the lower classes. When Checo was in karting the lowest place he got in the championship was fourth. He was the youngest driver to be champion in The Karting Youth Course. Then in 2007 he switched to British Formula 2, and won the series on his debut with podiums in two thirds of the races. He continued this trend into his later years in F2, and in 2008 he was the first Mexican driver to compete at that level since Giovanni Aloi. Then he joined Formula One, debuting with Sauber. He was the fifth Mexican to compete in F1 and joined the Ferrari driver academy in October of 2010. This is a lot of information all at once but it does show that Checo was a good driver from the beginning, he was consistent and fast. However in 2011 Sauber was a lower field team and as a result he struggled a lot to be competitive in the championships. This continued when he joined McLaren in 2013 because they were also a midfield team at the time. According to his teammate Jenson Button during the Bahrain Grad Prix of that year, “He’s extremely quick and did a great job today-“.(ESPN) Checo was driving very aggressively against his teammate and they collided a couple times on track. He started doing better and getting podiums but he encountered a lot of car issues dUe to his car being a midfield competitor. He was showing improvement at the end of 2015 when he finished ninth in the standings. He continued to improve into 2017 and 2018 when he switched to Force India. He got his 8th carer podium finish in Azerbaijan in 2018 and was the only non RedBull, Mercedes, or Ferrari driver to podium that year. Then he won in Sakhir from last place, which makes him the first Mexican driver to win in over 50 years. After that he signed with Redbull in 2021. He was doing a lot better, finishing the season in fourth and was consistently in the top ten during races. Even very early into their run together Max considered Checo a great teammate saying” Checo is an amazing human being. Not only just to work with in F1 but a super nice person-“He continues later in the article with, “It’s very rare to have a team mate like that and what he showed today, he was a real team player and I really hope we can continue this for a long time.” (formula1.com) This will become relevant more later when we start to talk about the current season, but its important to keep in mind that even in December of 2021 Max considered Checo a good driver and teammate. Checo would continue to do better, getting third in the championship in 2022 and winning in Monaco in the wet. And then got his 20th carer podium in Azerbaijan of that same year. He consistently got 1-2s with his teammate and helped hold off other cars. In 2023 he continued this by helping defend against the McLarens and Ferraris and as a result helped create massive gaps in the field. He ended the Championship in second and continues to be Max’s teammate at Redbull until 2026. Overall Checo is a good defensive driver, he tends to be very consistent and is good at overtaking. When he is in a good car he can drive very well, and he is a good teammate for Max Verstappen due to his more calm attitude and driving skills.

Logan also has a similar record albeit a significantly shorter one. During his 2008 karting debut he got third, then he got another third place in a second karting series that same year. He was the first American to win the CIK-FIA World KFJ Championship (yes that is the real name of the championship)since 1978. In his UAE F4 debut he podiumed in fifteen out of the 18 races and ended the championship in second after his teammate. The following year, 2017, he got third behind his teammate, and future competitor, Oscar Piastri. He continued this patter of high championship standings until he joined Formula 3. He ended up getting 19th in the championship, which is very low but he wasn’t in last place. He joined Prema racing in 2020 and started doing better again. He finished the championship in third that year, but he left Prema the following year and ended the season in seventh. He moved up to formula 2 after being backed by the Williams academy. In 2022 he had his first practice F1 debut, which makes him the first American F1 driver to participate in a Grand Prix weekend since Alexander Rossi in 2015. Then he joined the Williams Formula one team in 2023, he was the first Williams academy driver to drive for the team. And the first Williams driver to be a rookie under James Vowles. Who was the new team principal of Williams. The team was not doing well, they struggled to get points and generally function. But Logan was the first American to score a point in F1 since Micheal Andretti in 1993. In 2024, Willams decided to make Logan give up his car after Alex Albon’s crash during the Australian Grand Prix’s practice, citing the team forgot their spare chassis. After that, there were a couple races where Logan was racing with a rear wing and other parts from last year’s car. Overall Logan reminds me a lot of when Alex drove for Redbull during his debut. Logan was very good in the junior series and I think he could be better if he was given a car that wasn’t like wrangling an angry goat every weekend and maybe another year in F2. It would also help if he had a car that was fully updated and not use essentially as Alex’s backup car.

Both Checo and Logan had pretty similar results in their junior series and karting years. I think the biggest difference between Checo and Logan is that Checo always had a purpose to the team, he was never meant to be disposable. Checo, with his defensive skills helps create large gaps between Max and everyone else, Logan was meant to show that Williams was no longer Mercedes’ feeder team. Which he has in a way, by showing just how much Williams is drowning. Logan was pulled into F1 too early and it shows, if he was given another year he probably would have done better. With Checo they have to be keeping him on for a reason even though he’s been lackluster this season, and the public probably doesn’t know what it is. Redbull, if anything have a talent for throwing out underperforming drivers, we’ve seen it happen countless times, like with Pierre Gasly, Alex Albon, and Daniel Ricciardo. If Checo didn’t have something the team wanted he would have been replaced by now, we all know that Helmut wants him gone. And like on that, most of the talk of Checo being kicked stems from Helmut, you know, the guy who has a history of being racist to Checo. Why would people believe the number one rumor spreader in the paddock as if he’s a reliable source? I think the only commonality between Redbull and Williams is their team principal’s being embarrassingly unprofessional at the driver’s expense. If I was seeing that my boss was saying that I was going to lose my seat every race weekend I probably would be stressed too, especially if the car is clearly not working. How is it that Max Verstappen himself said that the car sucked and there was no need to worry about Checo and yet people are still blaming Checo? The car is already built around the hyperspecific needs of the number one driver which has proven to be incredibly hard for most other drivers to drive, and it isn’t working this year. At some point you have to starting thinking critically about the team. If the data isn’t matching up in the sim when applied to the actual car then there a bigger fish to fry than a teammate who’s doing okay in a more competitive season.

At least we know that both teams share an air of unprofessionalism around their second drivers. Doesn’t it rub you the wrong way when you read about James publically talking about him thirsting over Carlos Sainz as soon as it was announced he lost his seat? Loudly? Over and over again? I think it was all over in Australia, I’ve never heard of a team making their driver give up his car for his teammate. And how do you just have your spare Chassis unavailable? I genuinely believe Logan was rushed because James wanted two things from the young driver. One, he wanted to show that Williams wasn’t a feeder team into Mercedes anymore. And two, he wanted someone to essentially be fodder to test things on until they figure stuff out. I don’t think James would have been so adamant about trying to get a new driver if it wasn’t Carlos Sainz, due to his knowledge of engineering. Redbull on the other hand, has Helmut Marko, he constantly complains about Checo’s pace and while that’s a good point, he isn’t doing well, at some point you have to actually help your drivers. It also doesn’t help seeing yourself being insulted on social media. During this years Dutch Grand Prix practice 1 Checo got 12th and most of the comments on Redbull’s post were insulting Checo. But then during the testing at the beginning of this season when both drivers were doing poorly, all the comments were worried that the team was sandbagging and hoping that they would do well in the race. Checo also gets a lot of bias against him in the media, especially the British media and Sky sports announcers. It’s once again a thing of only bringing up Checo being Mexican when he’s doing poorly but when he’s doing well he’s a Redbull driver. A similar thing happens to all the other drivers who aren’t white and European. I also looked at the Willams posts about the practices and everyone showed more pity for Logan, saying things like “I really feel very sorry for him” Ect. In fact I only saw one direct insult, “Least he’s winning the world destructors championship”. And then I looked at another practice post to make sure the results weren’t skewed due to his crash, and no it was actually better, most of the comments were calling for Logan to get a better car, or believing Logan could be a good driver later. However both of the driver’s personal instagrams have only positive comments as far as I can see. But I do remember there was a period when Checo would get a lot of hate comments on his posts. It’s interesting to me how people can acknowledge that Logan is struggling due to his car but they can’t do the same to Checo even when 1. His teammate is complaining about the car, and 2. These same people will say that Max’s ex-teammates struggled due to the car. I wonder if it’s because Checo has been driving for so long and was pretty successful compared to Logan who was beaten down since he started.

TL;DR Checo and Logan are in a way set up to fail with their cars. Checo, with the car being so geared towards Max it’s incredibly difficult to drive and on top of that it’s not a very good car this year period. And Logan well, he was set up to fail from the beginning. He was pulled from F2 a year too early and he never had the same amount of test driving that the other rookies of his time had, Oscar for example had a trial in an F1 car a full year before Logan did. As well as having three tests with McLaren before debuting but Logan only really had one.

[rickybaby]

No matter how much Helmut annoys me at times, but this man really was there for the beginning of Daniel's career. No wonder Daniel knows what he has to do to impress him. Their relationship is wildly complicated.

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Imagine you're Helmut Marko. You've seen hundreds of young drivers come and go. You've made the careers of some, and broken the careers of many more others. It's 2007 and you see this lanky guy with big poofy hair come 6th in some regional junior championship and you think he's maybe quick enough to be part of your junior team. And then he shows up to meet you and the team boss for the first time with his shoes squelching water all over the floor because he fell into some fountain outside because he was too busy gawking at the Red Bull headquarters. Surely, you wouldn't have much hope of him surviving the shark tank that is the red bull junior academy, but yet he surprises you by jumping through every hoop you throw at him, by his sheer dogged determination to show you he can be your next golden boy. So, of course, he's going to have your grudging respect and you wouldn't mind playing godfather for a bit and use your influence to get him a seat at some struggling team - it's like here's another challenge for you, show me what you can do.

[agendabymooner]

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[le-stappen]

Helmut Marko again mentioning Charles after the qualy, saying that he is relieved that he is not in the front because he is the biggest threat to rbr in the long runs.

[f0point5]

With all the posts about Max’s first win I can’t stop thinking about how Y/N was feeling because it was still their feud era 🥺

do you have any headcanons about it?

I always had a rough idea of what happened after he won, I think it’s mentioned in the smau but I actually had some more detailed thoughts when I saw the reel on Max’s insta so…

Enjoy 🧡

Ps. Please ignore slight inaccuracies, I didn’t check the layout of the track’s parc fermé before writing this lol

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It’s your dad who drags you to yet another race under the guise of actually seeing you for more than thirty minutes at an airport. You hardly bother being upset. The kid he wishes was his is entering his first race for Red Bull Racing, you weren’t expect him to spend the whole weekend with you while that was happening.

Of course Max goes and wins it.

The moment he takes the chequered flag and the garage erupts into noise that can’t even be softened by your headphones, you want to roll your eyes, but you can’t. You’re not sure why your heart is thundering in your chest and you’re lightheaded, but you can’t think straight to figure it out. You don’t even like the guy.

Later, you’ll realise it’s because for all the dislike, awkwardness, and misunderstanding, there’s one thing you know about Max Verstappen, and it’s that he deserves this. He’s deserved it since he was racing around on his stupid little quad bike right over your foot. He deserved it after every win and every rare loss. Every time you watched him load his kart into that battered van when his dad wouldn’t let anyone help him, every time he turned away from anyone who might notice he was crying after Jos spoke to him, every time he stood on that top step looking not happy, just relieved.

You don’t even realise you’re crying until Geri Horner hands you a tissue with a soft smile before she runs off to join her husband. You follow her out to parc fermé where Max is already out of the car, mobbed by people. Barriers aren’t keeping anyone away from F1’s story of the decade.

You’re making your way through the throngs of people without any clear idea of why. You’re not even sure you’re breathing. Your brain certainly feels short of oxygen. Max has his back to you as he talks to one of his pit crew, gesticulating wildly as the guy shakes him by the shoulder.

It takes pretty much all the courage you’ve ever had to tap him on the shoulder. Something in you is surprised he turns to look at you.

“Congratulations,” you say, past a lump in your throat.

He doesn’t say anything. His smile doesn’t fall, but his eyebrows raise, like in this sea of people congratulating him he’s surprised that you did.

“Uh, thanks,” he says squeezing the back of his flushed neck. Even with a grin he can’t dull, he manages to look so damn awkward, and he can’t meet your eyes. “It was a good race, huh?” He snorts out a chuckle like he’s just one a 100 metre dash at a school sports day.

“Oh, fucking hell, Max,” you scoff as you take hold of his wrist and pull him into a hug, one he returns so quickly it makes you laugh, shaking against him.

You squeeze him tighter and he responds in kind. You laugh again, and this time you feel him laughing, too. Maybe something in his sweat transmits his adrenaline, or the heady atmosphere of success just takes over and you lose your mind, because you find yourself wondering what would happen if you just never let him go.

It’s Jos who pulls you apart, giving his son one more hug before pushing him off to where the team is waiting to celebrate with him again. He even turns to you and gives a squeeze around the shoulder and a kiss to the crown of your head, which feels a little like being kissed by the pope.

You shrink back into the crowd of people as photographers move past you to get closer for more pictures. Max doesn’t even seem to notice them, talking to Helmut Marko and his dad, looking like he’s walking on air. You imagine he must feel weightless. You know that for some reason, you do.

“He’s phenomenal,” your dad says beside you. It’s a dig at you, but you don’t even care.

“Yeah,” you agree, watching Max hugging his race engineer, “he is.”

He may be an arrogant dick, but his talent is something you see once in a lifetime if you’re lucky, and today you feel lucky. Your dad may never forgive you for not having talent like that but right then you promise to stop hating Max just because he does.

You’ll never be friends. You’ll never have more in common than a childhood that shattered you and made him invincible. You’ll probably never stop wondering what it’s like to be him.

But when you see him stand on that top step for what you know won’t be the last time, you cheer.

[landthatplane-blog]

More hypocrisy, more rants…

Fuck Helmut Marko. Honestly, why does he still need to slander Daniel? You’ve already made the decision. Not only wasn’t there a fond farewell, nor was he given the grace of knowing it was his last race. Post that shitshow in Singapore - he’s still talking about Daniel! Just be honest, this was about money and politics.

To start, Daniel’s season wasn’t anything spectacular, but he was on a run of improvements and certainly not usually bad enough to be dropped mid-season or not given a known last race. That said, per Marko, if Daniel “isn’t performing” in that dumpster tractor - fine, but then have the decency to acknowledge Checo in an objectively faster car also isn’t performing. The hypocrisy yet again. Admit, certain rules and expectations are being applied to different people.. If Daniel didn’t do enough - why is Checo still there? Objectively, if it’s about “performance” then they should both be out no? They acted like Daniel needed to perform miracles in that shit box, but fine for Checo to just get by most races (despite it potentially costing them Constructors). Never a fair fight. (Not trying to hate on Checo, just pointing out RBR/RB unfair expectations and narratives being put on Daniel). All to say, no one arguing DR should be guaranteed a seat/promotion/extension but I think most people agree (even non-DR fans) - a true goodbye or last race/season for 13 year veteran of sport - was deserved. His fucking family weren’t there because they didn’t know, he didn’t know until Saturday.

Last thing, I’m not condoning hating on LL, now or in future, but sir, read the room! You got the seat, you already won. The dream is in hand. To go around announcing you knew two weeks ago - have some humanity and emotional intelligence. Is it inexperience or is he rubbing it in everyone’s faces? He could have stopped at grateful for the opportunity, excited for the future.

Why has the whole ordeal felt so traumatic and hurtful? If we’re all feeling this, I can’t imagine what Daniel is feeling? As many people have mentioned, McLaren and 22 were bad, this feels worse. Permanent. And for all of CH’s bitching about McLaren, what’s happened here is infinitely worse. It’s like a real betrayal from a team he’s given so much to. He’s trusted them, and they couldn’t even be bothered.

ps if this was about 2025/2026 and decision was made two (or more weeks) - why did they string him along? Dangled the carrot with no real intention to follow through. The fact that they took advantage of his “Red Bull or bust” dreams is also gross. If they didn’t have intentions, they could have not tortured him all season. Maybe he could have had talks with other teams. Or enjoyed his last few races in peace.

so many should ofs, could haves….

[vetteldixon]

with the dc inside joke thing, do you think there was an element of bullying (as such) going on with dc/mark maybe other drivers towards seb? not just on a commentating level but just in general. i’ve always wondered since obviously after 2010 there seemed to be a lot of snide and unkind remarks about seb and things like that

i'll start out right by saying that i take seb at face value when he said that kimi was the only one who would really talk to him when he first joined f1, which was a big deal! which i mention because i sort of think that precludes a lot of, idk, classic bullying behavior, except ofc the silent treatment, which even if that's 'normal' in f1 i can easily believe that seb felt it was rather pointed and internalized it.

i think the red bull drivers is another can of worms because they would've been observing seb get the golden child treatment for years. so i kind of have to imagine that the 'inside jokes' and snide comments and everything are partly venting frustration and/or jealousy. something else about it that puts a terrible taste in my mouth is that dc and mark etc have the luxury of crafting their comments in their first language, and delivering them to the british media who they already knew was firmly on their side from the schumi years. maybe they felt like their comments were tit for tat, especially if they were kept aware of helmut marko's comments to german-language media and counted them, or that they felt like they were doing something important by making sure seb's ego was cut down to size, but. well. i guess i'll sum up by saying that it's classic bully thinking to excuse poor behavior by acting like it's a level playing field and the key power imbalances, eh?

oh yeah and again i'll reiterate that we only know the public-facing side of it and maybe seb laughed at more of it than we know but idk. my mama taught me that kindness is free 🤷‍♀️

[grogumaximus]

[not-that-syndrigast]

Does McLaren exceed the cost cap? 

In the course of this year, the McLaren car has been updated from a midfield car to the arguably fastest car on the grid, being able to build a twenty second gap to Verstappen in a RedBull and keep all the other teams that have shown to have a race winning pace behind. Shortly after the win in Zandvoort, Zak Brown revealed that they would bring even more updates for the car in Monza. Quite a few people are confused by this, and ask for McLaren to be investigated on their monetary spend, because people think that they have already exceeded the cost cap, but I want to share my thoughts on McLarens financial situation.

I am not quite sure how people think the teams work the cost cap, but generally we can assume that the administration of the finances works the following; 

First of all, there are certain amounts that teams are aware of from the beginning of the year on. This includes the wages, equipment and the base car that they build at the beginning of the year (important here; base car, excluding updates and crashes). This part makes up the biggest portion of the cost cap, and although teams can save here a bit by not employing as many people, teams that work well will try to stay with similar numbers here.

Second of all, there are expected expenses. Crashes, faulty parts that need replacement, ect. These things can only be predicted and not be guessed as accurately as the fixed costs which is why teams can lose or win most in this category.

Last but not least, there is everything that they have left, such as updates, making spare parts, ect. While teams will also have an estimated amount for these expenses, they are dependent on the expected expenses, and by this, McLarens seemingly financial freedom can be explained.

McLaren has been very lucky this year. Every single one of their updates work, so there is no wasted money there, but they have more money left than probably expected. Why? Their drivers are pretty cheap. While driver wages do not fall into the cost cap, any expenses made by crashes do. McLaren hasn’t mentioned it, but for RedBull the opposite is the case; in the past few years, they didn’t lose as much in crashes; in 2023, they lost estimated $3.5 million, in 2022 only estimated $1.6 million.This season though,they’ve already lost an estimated $4.5 million and we still have nine races left. Important is to keep in mind that these amounts are only estimated, but Dr. Helmut Marko himself said that especially Perez’ crash in Monaco is dangerous for their cost cap, and although I usually do not necessarily think he tells the truth at all times, this does make sense. It’s been discussed by multiple sources that RedBull has probably planned less for crashes this season and had thus to cut back on possible updates.

McLaren on the other hand, has most likely more money left than expected. With only nine races left, they have only had to spend an estimated $1 million on crashes. They won’t use all of their funds of predicted damages for updates, but winning the constructors championship would be of incredible performance for McLaren.

Furthermore, different than RedBull, not only did all of their updates work, but they also have had less than RedBull. While RedBull has had to try their hardest to make their car drivable again, thus bringing rushed updates almost every race week, McLaren has only had updates in three races. These were bigger packages, but they were also better planned and worked so well that they did not lose any money having to redo them.

In the end, these are mostly guesses though, but I am fairly positive that all teams try their hardest to stay below the cost cap. I guess, the reason McLaren finds themselves under scrutiny, is that people quickly make up things because they dislike the team and others just read it and believe it, so as usually, I don’t expect, nor do I want, anyone from just believing my thoughts without any questioning. Look at the data, read the official FIA regulations and think about what is logical yourself, without just listening to others. Sapere aude and all that.

[naanima]

Christian Horner, Marko Helmut & RBR are fuckheads. No real surprise. VCARB being useless is also not a surprise. Them continuing to try and cover their asses & lie through their teeth about "when" they told Daniel about his last race is not a good look with the context of Daniel's treatment by them & the media in Singapore.

CAA dropped the ball in managing Daniel's F1 career, but I hope they got him another bag of moolah. People can't depend on shit in F1, only money.

I hope the fans of other drivers celebrating Daniel's exit will now enjoy your drivers no longer having a scapegoat. Or never being mentioned.

Daniel, you have 101 things you want to do/currently doing, so go forth and be awesome doing them. F1 is only a chapter in your life. You have so many more chapters to look forward to.

No regrets.

[thearchercore]

Marko wasn’t talking Charles laps on softs, he was talking about the mini long run race pace where Charles was a second faster than Max, it was pretty good for Ferrari although Charles stint was only 3 laps long and with less fuel load

yeah! but for most people who watch FP's (carlos shooters especially), they see charles rank p7 on softs and automatically assume he fumbled so a lot of them were surprised to see helmut scared by charles' pace and not carlos' (who was p3 on softs). i saw a lot of people who were perplexed by his choice of a ferrari driver to mention as a threat due to that.

but based on quali pace sim, it seems that ferrari is pretty close to RBR (which even max was surprised by) with a bigger gap between ferrari-other teams than ferrari-red bull so i think we're in for an interesting weekend.

[eddiediazangst]

It's very telling to see Max Verstappen, Christian Horner and Helmut Marko all talk about Redbull competition and specifically mention Charles and Ferrari as different entities.

All three of them have gone on record multiple times to state that their biggest threat/competition is Charles and then they'll make a comment about Ferrari failing to utilize him or a general comment about a Ferrari weakness eventhough a few minutes before they'll have praised Charles for the same thing they're now critical about.

Max multiple times has been asked about Ferrari and his thoughts on how much of a threat they are and every single time Max will start talking about Ferrari in general and then end up only talking about Charles and how he likes racing Charles because he's a great driver and he knows they'll both have a proper race fight.

Horner for some reason has risen in the Charles defender ranking during 2022. There was the Silverstone thing that was shown in DTS. There's also the two interviews after France22 when he was asked about Charles crash and Horner was very clear about it being a mistake and he knows Charles isn't a crasher.

Both Horner and Max in separate interviews said that Charles knows he fucked up in France and didn't need people bringing it up and telling him how much he messed up. They both were two of the only people (at first) to defend Charles in Monaco21 and we're adamant he didn't crash on purpose eventhough a year later they didn't keep the same energy for one of their own.

Marko has made some past comments about Charles that has haven't been nice however he's recently being giving Charles a lot of credit. He's the main one who'll separate Charles and Ferrari so he can shit talk Ferrari but be nice to Charles. It's very Jos Verstappen core, that man was ready to swing at younger Charles for the Inchident but will turn around and call him good competition and a smart driver. (I still remain curious about their conversation during the 1000th race)

There's a few interviews where multiple drivers get told either by interviewers or other drivers about some dumb fucking Ferrari fail and they always look so confused and then like 10 minutes later you'll see them talking to Charles in the media pen.

I mean it's not just Redbull, some time in 2019 Mercedes alluded to the fact that they built a strategy based on Charles because they presumed with him winning multiple races, being on multiple poles and having more points than Seb he'd get priority so they had a plan that required Charles being prioritised and the plan failed because Seb was favoured.

Wolff was praising Charles so often that enough people genuinely thought he had an ulterior motive and was trying to convince Charles to go to Mercedes.

Nothing against Carlos (or Seb) but it's very clear who Redbull and Mercedes would prioritise between them and probably have as first driver because he's the only one they see as competition.

Like you've got Horner and Wolff agreeing on something why on earth would you decide that they're not correct in their opinion. They never agree on anything but if they're coming to the same conclusion then clearly something is wrong on Ferrari's end.

[georgegraphys]

Thought thoughts prayers

Warning : Highly speculative discussion. Snowflakes aren't welcome. Unreliable person as I am not Mercedes.

I don't think Mercedes is HAPPY judging by how they directly clarified the testing fiasco. Like? Corriere dello Sport who implied Mercedes has 15 board members, despite the general report audited by the world's renowned auditing company says otherwise and said that a certain wonderboy matches/beat George's times that George was upset and try to run more laps to beat wonderboy.

First of all, we're talking about George William Russell. "Who the fuck is a George when he is in F2?" The boy who beat Vettel's unofficial circuit lap record by 0.6s in Hungaroring during testing and beat Raikkonen who participated in the testing as well. He was an F2 driver at that time. Beating the Ferraris. What did he do in F2? 7 wins, 5 pole positions, 4 FLs, F2 highest points of ALL time (F2 not GP2 before SVandoorne fans come after me). He was breaking records not fighting for points. George's only fear back then was ART's technical failure, Monaco's walls, not getting any F1 seat in 2019, and Nyck De Vries last lap dive bomb. You don't fuck with him. You don't just fuck with George's feeder series stints because he is THAT 'George Russell mentality' 'George Russell confidence' type of guy and the guy who got Helmut Marko regretting not signing him up for RB Junior Team.

And Corriere dello Sport says George is upset. First of all, there are chances that George might REALLY be upset. But in this case, there's no fucking way. Why? BECAUSE HE'S NOT EVEN TESTING THE SAME THING THAT'S WHY THE TIMES ARE NOT COMPARABLE. Corriere dello Sport is basically womping on nothing except air rn. The way they wrote the most ridiculous bullshit that got Mercedes OFFICIALLY confirming themselves that those news are bullshit is hilarious and ironic.

It intrigues me by the way George's name is mentioned in that fraud news and Mercedes responds in lightning speed, clarifying everything. Ngl to me, that doesn't seem like they're happy with that shit. That's not even pure lying anymore. That's straight up defamation to George's name. And finally for fucking once, they speak up. Thank God. I don't know whose phone call or self conscience made them clarify that fraud news but thank you to whoever it is.

Lastly, Corriere dello Sports? Kindly choke on your fake delusional news

[moon-brain-90]

I need someone to find Helmut Marko, Christian horner, and F1 media and start shaking them viciously. Yuki has been doing AMAZING this season and every article about who's getting the red bull seat that doesn't mention Yuki is on my hit list because man has not been outperforming Daniel all season to not get mentioned/barely mentioned. Like if anyone deserves that seat it's Yuki, not Carlos or Daniel. (I wouldn't be upset if Checo gets renewed he's been doing good this season) but like COME ON