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mrsracooney · 4 months ago
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I've been at it again xD One more random Troy comic
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h0bg0blin-meat · 5 months ago
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Idea:
Menelaus and Chandragupta talking obsessively about their Helens
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petitsdieu · 1 month ago
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𝑯𝒆𝒍𝒆𝒏 𝒊𝒏 𝑬𝒈𝒚𝒑𝒕 𝒃𝒚 𝑯𝒊𝒍𝒅𝒂 𝑫𝒐𝒐𝒍𝒊𝒕𝒕𝒍𝒆 — an epic long poem retelling thru helen's eyes and experiences.
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krymy · 2 years ago
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Breaking News!
Parys, młody książę Troi, porwał Helenę - księżniczkę spartańską, żonę Menelaosa, brata Aganemnona, który ma wielkie plecy i od dawna szukał pretekstu do wojny z Troją. Nie wiadomo jak zakończy się ten incydent. Miejmy nadzieję, że książęta rozwiążą spór między sobą.
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Helena wachluje się na murach Troi, w miarę jak sytuacja robi się coraz gorętsza.
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Aganemnon, prawdopodobnie ten w czerwieni, spiera się ze swoim ulubionym wojownikiem - Achillesem na pydżama party, o co, redakcja jeszcze nie wie. Alexandre-Denis Abel de Pujol, La colère d'Achille, 1810, Notre Dame (Indiana), Snite Museum of Art.
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Menelaos z Heleną, symboliczne przedstawienie naszych grafików (para jest znana z umiłowania prywatności).
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Parys kusi jabłkiem poznania drzew w swoim ogródku (wiemy, że to nie pierwszy raz). Anthony van Dyck (1599-1641) (za) - James Stuart (1612–1655), 1-wszy Książę Richmond i 4-ty Książę Lennox, jako Paris.
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roanofarcc · 11 months ago
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REFLECTIONS. THE RISE AND FALL OF CAMP HALF BLOOD’S ORGINAL GOLDEN TRIO
“we were too close to the stars…”
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LUKE CASTELLAN. son of hermes, the traitor.
theme, OUTRUNNING KARMA by ALEC BENJAMIN. Outrunning karma, that boy | can’t run no farther, it’s the | last days of sparta, follow | him down to meet apollo | then he’ll brace for battle in the night | he’ll fight because he knows he cannot hide
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HELENA WINDSOR. daughter of aphrodite, the burned.
theme, THE HISTORY OF MAN by MAISIE PETERS. he stole her youth and promised heaven | the men start wars yet troy hates helen | women’s hearts are lethal weapons | did you hold mine and feel threatened?
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DOMINIC FAIRBANKS. son of demeter, the cursed.
theme, FRANCESCA by HOZIER I’d tell them, “put me back in it” | darling, I would do it again | if I could hold you for a minute | darling, I’d go through it again
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bound together by a twisted, invisible string, three demi-gods cannot escape their intertwined fate. A heart must break, a hero must fall from grace, and a curse must ruin them all…
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greekmythcomix · 6 months ago
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How-Odysseus-met-Penelope headcanon
Odysseus is a headstrong fellow as we know. His success with the boar and the pride of his grandfather has established his name in the local area, and, frankly, he’s enjoying that fame and finding out who he really is and he neglects getting married. His parents despair of him, because they need their heir to have an heir to prevent them getting usurped by some nobler, richer king from the mainland should a power vacuum emerge, but their boy is getting older and much more interested in gallivanting and hunting with his slave pal Eumaeus, telling great stories in drinking sessions with the other young nobles of the island, and getting into scrapes than he is settling down and providing the grandchildren. Women long-term just don’t interest him. What can a much younger, uneducated, unadventurous partner possibly have to interest him, aside from moments of physical gratification?
 When the hand of Helen is up for grabs, Odysseus reluctantly goes along with all the other Greek kings. He knows he doesn’t have a chance really – he’s the prince of a backwater island and there are kings of literal cities here. But he goes because it’s a chance to meet people, and he does: Lycomedes of Crete, the Amythaonides  Thoas, Podarkes and Protesilaos, Menestheus and Elephenor[1], Ajax, and the Atreides, Menelaus and Agamemnon, who has also come without intention to marry – he’s already married to Clytaemnestra, sister of Helen - but to support his little brother and, presumably, throw his weight around.
 But he does meet someone. Leaning on a pillar near the back of the Megaron of Tyndareus, watching the other suitors argue in front of the king about who has brought the best gifts, he realises a girl is standing next to him, copying his bored recline and crossed arms. He is surprised. Moreso when she nudges him with her shoulder – how forward – motions towards the other suitors and shakes her head in silent laughter. I gather you’re not really here for her, she says. I bet you’re here for no one, she says, though it looks like, for a loner, you’ve made some friends? Odysseus looks to where she’s pointing and sees auburn-haired Menelaus smiling over and giving a little wave.
 He's alright, Odysseus replies, definitely a bit lovestruck but a good sort. I hope he wins. Otherwise he’ll be insufferable.
Hmm, says the girl. Odysseus is instantly intrigued.
What do you think Helen wants? Odysseus asks. Oh, says the girl, after the narrow escapes she’s had already, all she wants is protection, and someone nice to look at. I warned her that might get dull, but she’s adamant. Mostly, I think she wants to be somewhere where she’s not being gawped at all the time, but I’m worried she’s not thinking about the long term.
What about you though? He asks. He speaks without thinking, because, for the first time, it doesn’t occur to him to do so.
 She shrugs. They’re all the same, she says, looking for a prize. I’d rather have a conversation.
 Days later, Odysseus approaches Tyndareus with his plan to protect Helen and her choice of husband from future reprisals from those rebuffed: an oath, to be sworn on the dissected corpse of one of Sparta’s famous horses, joining the suitors together in blood. He’s quite proud of the idea: it’s simple, but looks dramatic and piety will keep it in place. He might have had some inside help with choosing the animal victim that is the symbolic centre of the oath to be made, and now Odysseus has a price of his own for this help: Tyndareus must speak with his brother, Icarius, on behalf of this prince of a backwater island, so that Odysseus might just also return home with a wife.
[1] From the papyrus BKT V.1 28-30 (P. 9739 R) ttps://berlpap.smb.museum/die-freier-der-schoenen-helena/?lang=en#:~:text=The%20surviving%20fragment%20deals%20with,and%20Protesilaos%2C%20Menestheus%20and%20Elephenor.
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blue-lotus333 · 1 month ago
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Heroine Worship guide (?)/suggestions
(pt 1)
(for hellenist who want to worship heroines)
Penelope
Heroine of loyalty, commitment, intelligence, weaving, patience & shrewdness. The Queen/patroness of Ithaca, the cunning weaver.
Libations: Tea, water, coffee, milk, wine, olive oil.
Food suggestions: grapes, rice, baked goods, sweets, olives, figs, raisins, cakes, bread, plums, bananas, fish, mulberries, broth, legumes, pears, barley, etc.
Other Offerings: flowers, lamps, candles, incense, poetry, art, weaving offerings, jewelry, oils, images of looms, music, weaving needles, yarn & olive branches.
Devotional acts: helping others, studying, learning how to weave, Literary Tribute, crafting, Journaling, charity.
Crystals (optional): Amethyst, lapis lazuli, garnet, clear quartz, opal, selenite.
Colors: white, gold, purple, blue.
Sacred animals: swan, dogs, duck & spider.
Symbols: crown, the loom, ducks, water, yarn.
Titles: Queen of Ithaca, the weaver, the faithful wife, the soul of loyalty, sensible queen, The prudent woman, heroine of the odyssey.
Other names: Penelopa, Arnacia, Arnaea, Ameirace.
Helen of Sparta
Heroine of beauty, love, charm, desire, marriage & Divine Favor. The Queen/patroness of sparta, the face that launched a thousand ships.
Libations: Tea, water, wine, milk, juice
Food suggestions: apples, cherries, sweets, baked goods, figs, lychees, strawberries, honey cakes, grapes, peaches, honey, barley, broth, pomegranates, etc
Offerings: lamps, candles, incense, poetry, art, makeup, rose water, music, flowers, crown charms, jewelry, gold, mirrors, perfume, oils, & combs.
Devotional acts: self care/love, personal beauty rituals, helping others, dressing up for her, dancing, reflection, & study feminist history and women’s roles in the ancient world.
Crystals (optional): rose quartz, pearl, ruby, moonstone, spinel, Rhodonite.
Colors: Pink, gold, yellow, red.
Sacred animals: Swan, goose, doves, pigeons
Symbols: mirror, swans, the apple, crown.
Titles: Queen of sparta, the most beautiful woman in the world, the face that launched a thousand ships, daughter of Zeus, brilliant among women, mistress of sunlight.
Other names: Helena, Argive, leukolenos, eukomos.
Medea
Heroine of magic, magical practice, reconsideration, poisons & requital. Priestess of Lady Hecate, the Princess/sorceress of Colchis
Libations: Tea, water, coffee, milk, wine, olive oil, gin
Food suggestions: baked goods, sweets, figs, mulberries, blackberries, Blood Oranges, mushrooms, olives, honey, pomegranates, plums, juniper berries, etc.
Other Offerings: flowers, lamps, candles, incense, poetry, art, herbs, bronze, coins, snake imagery, wands, music, dragon imagery, bones, artifacts of witchcraft.
Devotional acts: study & practice magic, Acts of Empowerment, creating spells of justice, Journaling, Meditation.
Crystals (optional): Obsidian, black tourmaline, Labradorite, onyx, bloodstone.
Colors: black, purple, red.
Sacred animals: snakes & dragons
Symbols: Golden Fleece, the chariot of Helios, snakes
Titles: Vengeful Maiden, Priestess of Hecate, She Who Knows All Herbs, Princess of Colchis, Daughter of the Sun and Moon.
Other names: polypharmakos, doloessa, Anguitia, Angitia
Atalanta
Heroine of speed, independence, Athleticism, equality & challenges. Devotee of lady Artemis, the Princess of Arcadia.
Libations: water, milk, wine, olive oil.
Food suggestions: baked goods, sweets, figs, black berries, pork, pears, papaya, mangoes, lime, apples, meat, plums, broth, fish, almonds, vegetables, etc.
Other Offerings: flowers, lamps, candles, incense, poetry, art, boar hide, music, boar charms, plants, laurel, medals, bow & arrow imagery, lion imagery.
Devotional acts: foot-racing, working out, hunting, learning self defense, Personal Challenges, trying out on sports & athleticism.
Crystals (optional): jasper, moss agate, iron, tigers eye, carnelian.
Colors: green, brown, dark blue, orange.
Sacred animals: boar, lion & bear
Symbols: Golden apple, boar, lion, bow & arrow
Titles: Member of the Argonauts, princess of Arcadia, devotee of Artemis, the swift-footed huntress, equal in weight, she who toils greatly.
Other names: N/A
(Btw, like I’ve pointed out many times, these are just suggestions, ofc u can honor them how u want to honor them.)
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brookie-writes · 3 months ago
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I love you
The sun was setting, and yet, all I could think about was her. How is she doing? Is there a chance she thinks about me too? Could she reciprocate my feelings?
Sadly, I'm sure I already know the answer to that last question...and we could say it is definetely not the one my heart wishes for. I can only understand her though, we are bestfriends, we have known each other for years and she sees me as her sister.
Oh, and how could i forget she already is dating a guy.I could spend all day talking about how she deserves better, but to make it simple, he doesn't care about her. He only dates her because of how pretty she is, I tried to warn her, but she had already fallen for him, it was too late.
This man just doesn't treat her right, the way she should be treated, the way i could treat her. If she would just let me, I could love her so much more than he does. I would care for her, make her feel appreciated, make her feel loved. If only she would let me, I would do my best for her to never feel alone, I would always be there for her.
I wish I could tell her this, but it really isn't that easy....I just...can't express how much I love her. She's all I ever wished for. She's a litteral Goddess, and I'm sure she was blessed by Lady Aphrodite herself. Her beauty could only be compared to Helena of Sparta's.
And that's not all, no, her personality, the way she acts, her confidence, the was she handles herself, the way she won't let anyone bring her down. Her strength, her brains, her love. Her everything is perfect.But I have to stay on the side, to let her be in love with him, while I'm here, always been and will forever be.
I'll take care of her anyway, as her friend, as her best friend.The sun is setting, and yet, once again, my last thought before I fall into a deep slumber, is how much I love this woman.
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push-tet · 11 months ago
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it's me agein ab my vv:bs
I recently saw a post that Verona needs more townie with references to shakespeare's characters
well, i have something to show you
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Rosaline Barghest - Romeo's angry ex
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Lysander Sparta - Hermia's love interest
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Demetrius Macedon - Demetrius with a surprise
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Theseus and Hippolyta Bourdarie - Paris's parents
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Tom and Philostrate Snout - Helena's stepfather and grandfather
it's everyone who's connected to the playable families or whoever i can remember :р
yeah
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monaluisa · 3 months ago
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I always forget how stupid long I made Ancient Greece live in my Hetalia fic universe and then I remember that the most advanced weapon when Argurios (my Sparta OC) died at the ripe old age of about one-thousand years in 387 BCE was like...a catapult. When Romulus died about eight-hundred years later, European weaponry was pretty much the same; he missed Greek fire by about two centuries
HELENA LIVED LONG ENOUGH TO KNOW ABOUT GUNS.
She survived her entire family by like 1600 years and Romulus by almost 1000, and she was like 700 years older than Romulus to begin with.
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galathynius · 2 years ago
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2023 reading log
the uncensored picture of dorian gray by oscar wilde / jan. 2-9 / 4 stars
buzz saw: the improbable story of how the washington nationals won the world series by jesse dougherty / jan. 9-11 / 4.5 stars
proposal by meg cabot / jan. 17 / 3 stars
sidelined: sports, culture, and being a woman in america by julie dicaro / jan. 12-17 / 4 stars
remembrance by meg cabot / jan. 18-19 / 3 stars
how sweet it is by dylan newton / jan. 19-20 / 3 stars
daughters of sparta by claire heywood / jan. 21-22 / 3 stars
highly suspicious and unfairly cute by talia hibbert / jan. 22 / 4 stars
gentlemen prefer blondes: the diary of a professional lady by anita loos / jan. 23-26 / 3 stars
hell bent by leigh bardugo / jan. 26-31 / 4 stars
all about love: new visions by bell hooks / jan. 22-31 / 4 stars
daisy jones & the six by taylor jenkins reid / jan. 31-feb. 2 / 4 stars
everything i know about love: a memoir by dolly alderton / feb. 2-9 / 4 stars
emma by jane austen / feb. 11-19 / 4 stars
fake it till you bake it by jamie wesley / feb 19-23 / 3.5 stars
my dark vanessa by kate elizabeth russell / feb. 23-26 / 4 stars
throttled by lauren asher / feb. 26-28/ 2 stars
the locker room by meghan quinn / mar. 1-5 / 1 star
come as you are: the surprising new science that will transform your sex life by emily nagoski / feb. 17-mar. 5 / 4.5 stars
pucked by helena hunting / mar. 5-11 / 3 stars
legendborn by tracy deonn / mar 12-23 / 4.5 stars
unadulterated something by m.j. duncan / mar. 23-25 / 4 stars
the fifth season by n.k. jemisin / mar. 26-apr. 15 / 4 stars
how to fake it in hollywood by ava wilder / apr. 16-19 / 3.5 stars
sharp objects by gillian flynn / apr. 19-22 / 4 stars
the homewreckers by mary kay andrews / apr. 22-25 / 3.5 stars
the kiss curse by erin sterling / apr. 25-26 / 3.5 stars
the wedding crasher by mia sosa / apr. 26-27 / 3 stars
let’s get physical: how women discovered exercise and reshaped the world by danielle friedman / mar. 25-apr. 27 / 4 stars
mile high by liz tomforde / apr. 27-may 6 / 1.5 stars
happy place by emily henry / may 6-7 / 5 stars
carrie soto is back by taylor jenkins reid / may 7 / 4 stars
the spanish love deception by elena armas / may 8 / 2 stars
neon gods by katee robert / may 8-9 / 1 star
love in the time of serial killers by alicia thompson / may 9-11 / 4 stars
the bodyguard by katherine center / may 11 / 4 stars
the intimacy experiment by rosie danan / may 11-12 / 3 stars
upgrade by blake crouch / may 12-13 / 4 stars
by any other name by lauren kate / may 13 / 3 stars
the dead romantics by ashley poston / may 15-17 / 4 stars
the ballad of songbirds and snakes by suzanne collins / may 19-28 / 3.5 stars
so many ways to lose: the amazin’ true story of the new york mets—the best worst team in baseball by devin gordon / may 13-jun. 4 / 4 stars
iron widow by xiran jay zhao / jun. 5-7 / 3 stars
the grace year by kim liggett / jun. 7-8 / 4 stars
the last magician by lisa maxwell / jun. 9-11 / 4.5 stars
little fires everywhere by celeste ng / jun. 12-14 / 4 stars
not a happy family by shari lapena / jun. 14-17 / 2.5 stars
the familiars by stacey halls / jun. 17-21 / 3 stars
the girls i’ve been by tess sharpe / jun. 21-22 / 3.5 stars
once more with feeling by elissa sussman / jun. 23 / 3 stars
the cheat sheet by sarah adams / jun. 24-25 / 1 star
how to sell a haunted house by grady hendrix / jun. 26-29 / 3 stars
little thieves by margaret owen / jul. 1-3 / 4.5 stars
this is how you lose the time war by amal el-mohtar and max gladstone / jul. 3-6 / 3 stars
the very secret society of irregular witches by sangu mandanna / jul. 11-12 / 4 stars
the lies of locke lamora by scott lynch / jul. 13-27 / 4.5 stars
seven days in june by tia williams / jul. 28-30 / 4 stars
bloodmarked by tracy deonn / jul. 31-aug. 2 / 4 stars
something wilder by christina lauren / aug. 3-4 / 3 stars
howl’s moving castle by diana wynne jones / aug. 4-5 / 4 stars
dark matter by blake crouch / aug. 12-13 / 3 stars
eat up! food, appetite, and eating what you want by ruby tandoh / jul. 30-aug. 14 / 4 stars
the silent companions by laura purcell / aug. 5-18 / 4 stars
mr. wrong number by lynn painter / aug. 19-20 / 2 stars
romantic comedy by curtis sittenfeld / aug. 20-21 / 4 stars
the last tale of the flower bride by roshani chokshi / aug. 21-23 / 4 stars
the hating game by sally thorne / aug. 23-25 / 2 stars
lessons in chemistry by bonnie garmus / aug. 25-26 / 2.5 stars
the godparent trap by rachel van dyken / aug. 27 / 2 stars
i’m glad my mom died by jennette mccurdy / aug. 27-29 / 4 stars
the atlas six by olivie blake / aug. 29-sep. 9 / 3 stars
wordslut: a feminist guide to taking back the english language by amanda montell / sep. 1-9 / 4 stars
practice makes perfect by sarah adams / sep. 10-11 / 3 stars
all systems red by martha wells / sep. 13-14 / 3 stars
do i know you? by emily wibberly and austin siegemund-broka / sep. 14-16 / 4 stars
same time next summer by annabel monaghan / sep. 17 / 3.5 stars
Ounder the influence by noelle crooks / sep. 18-22 / 4 stars
burn for me by ilona andrews / sep. 22-23 / 4 stars
the littlest library by poppy alexander / sep. 24 / 3 stars
the neighbor favor by kristina forest / sep. 25-27 / 3 stars
satisfaction guaranteed by karelia stetz-waters / sep. 28-oct. 5 / 3 stars
the ex talk by rachel lynn solomon / oct. 5-7 / 4 stars
change of plans by dylan newton / oct. 8-9 / 2 stars
coraline by neil gaiman / oct. 9 / 4 stars
you, again by kate goldbeck / oct. 9-11 / 3 stars
mrs. caliban by rachel ingalls / oct. 12 / 3 stars
summer sons by lee mandelo / oct. 12-19 / 4 stars
the death of jane lawrence by caitlin starling / oct. 19-24 / 3 stars
house of hollow by krystal sutherland / oct. 25-29 / 4 stars
white hot by ilona andrews / oct. 28-nov. 2 / 4.5 stars
twice shy by sarah hogle / nov. 4-5 / 3 stars
sexed up: how society sexualizes us, and how we can fight back by julia serano / nov. 2-10 / 4 stars
artificial condition by martha wells / nov. 11-14 / 4 stars
wildfire by ilona andrews / nov. 14-16 / 4.5 stars
between a fox and a hard place by mary frame / nov. 18 / 3 stars
revolting prostitutes: the fight for sex workers’ rights by molly smith and juno mac / nov. 18-20 / 4 stars
emily wilde’s encyclopaedia of faeries by heather fawcett / nov. 21-24 / 4.5 stars
love and other words by christina lauren / nov. 24-25 / 3 stars
the boyfriend candidate by ashley winstead / nov. 26 / 3.5 stars
the seven year slip by ashley poston / nov. 27-28 / 5 stars
how to fall out of love madly by jana casale / dec. 3-10 / 3 stars
ordinary monsters by j.m. miro / dec. 10-21 / 3 stars
rogue protocol by martha wells / dec. 22-23 / 4 stars
what you wish for by katherine center / dec. 25 / 3 stars
the blonde identity by ally carter / dec. 25-26 / 2.5 stars
just my type by falon ballard / dec. 26-31 / 2 stars
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crimsonlyinglilly · 6 months ago
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Reminiscing
Back to Lost Gods and Found Memories - Katherine returns to the underworld and starts to set right while getting used to the changes being human had left on her.
Thank to all who took part in the Poll, the results mean our happy couple had three children; Melinoe, Zagreus and Helena.
Yes Helen of Troy, Helena.
Been mostly working out how to merge real mythology with Legacies Canon, some gods have been merged some never existed and some do but never left Peace.
Persephone is the result of a experiment that Ken did with Nature, he got three children from it.
Hades!Katherine and her children use the Greek names that the humans had given them (Katherine however uses Lynn and Ken's since their siblings, she doesn't care for his children other than Persephone and her two full siblings)
And otherwise it's too easy to get confused as everyone has like 3 different names.
Now with that out the way onto the short update
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Hallways that once echoed with the laughter of her family were silence other than her steps, her absence had harmed her family in ways she couldn't have expected. It had only meant to be a signal human life not countless.
Her realm hadn't so much fall into disrepair as fragmented, smaller placeholder falling into place to keep the balance in her absence, even now with her power returned to her it was still slowly pulling itself back together.
She would need to deal with the placeholders later, not the way she had deal with Cade, she remembered her rightful place but they had fulfilled they uses. First however came dealing with her family.
Katherine was stalking her halls, when she got the news, a messenger from those she had sent out to collect those she had sent for, telling her one of those she most wanted had escaped.
Esther had moved on, to Katherine’s ire, Mikael would have to do, for now, she thought as she took a breath to calm her new anger. 
Ken was always the one with a temper out of the three of them but she was starting to see why he enjoyed his spite and rage. It was something she had developed from the centuries running scared as a mortal, a changed mortal but one nonetheless, her memories of dying ensured that.
Niklaus Mikaelson could perhaps pride himself on the knowledge he managed to change a god, she would tell him once her wife was returned.
She didn’t let herself delve on how a thousand years as a vampire would have changed her wife. Now she knew how the goddess of spring and nature’s daughter had been changed to a creature of death, by a mere witch, she could see her wife in the actions of Elijah Mikaelson.
However she couldn’t get her revenge on said witch as what she thought was Esther was a mere echo.
It seemed like a common mistake she had been making since the return to her powers, after millennia the underworld had shifted and as it reshaped on her return her full senses were in disarray.
She had noticed her brother and his children’s absence, her oldest daughter among them but had thought her younger two were where they should be, as they should be.
She was wrong.
She had felt her Zagreus’ power where it belonged in his rooms and hadn’t questioned anything and left for Lynn without hesitation to find out why Melinoe was missing.
The piece of the underworld she had broken off for her youngest, in spite of Ken’s curse to further keep the daughter he had stolen and gifted to his mortal lover, from her true father was still strong and untouched allowing her to mistakenly believe Helena was safe.
She wasn’t, Katherine would no doubt be hearing from Menelaus soon, now her return had been announced to all the dead. 
The former king of Sparta would likely be enraged at the thief of his wife again, like Katherine wasn’t incensed as well but she could only hope she managed to retrieve their daughters before Persephone remembered and returned, as much as she longed for her wife’s return, she did take after her father in her temper. 
It had taken both Melinoe and Zagreus to convince Persephone not to start a war between the gods, after not just the thief of their youngest but the discovery that he had done it to use her to bring chaos to the humans, bring more harm and torment to the child.
They had watched Helen grow as a human princess unable to reach out, only Melinoe had been able to speak to her within her dreams, watched her grow happy with her husband, watched as the supposed goddess of Love, with the hands that has once killed their son stole her from that happiness to gave to another mortal as a prize.
The daughter of the rulers of the underworld, a mere prize.
Hades had not been able to watch Helena suffer though what followed and sat on the shores of the river, ignoring Lynn’s pity, waiting to collect her daughter instead he had returned to the underworld with their first grandchildren. 
Persephone had watched it all, stronger than Katherine had been then, she had ensured Menelaus knew who his wife truly was and who was to blame, as well as the despair his lands would suffer if she was not rescued.
Katherine's wife was never one for light threats, had he blamed Helena she would have made famine follow and so Helen had been reunited with the husband she had loved to spend the rest of her mortal life in comfort.
Of course that hadn’t been the end, even when her mortal life ended Ken had interfered cursing her with the inverse of what he had once done to Zagreus, again claiming it was for their own good.
While Zagreus could not spend more than an hour outside the underworld, Helena could not spend more than an hour within Katherine’s realm, kept from her true father, the children she had lost in Ken’s war and her husband. 
While powerless to help Zagreus, then she had been able to do something. Cutting a small area of the underworld from his power and placing it in hers, sending his grandchildren and Menelaus and his most trusted to it.
A place Helena could reside safe from Ken and the rest of his kin, somewhere her siblings and Persephone could visit, and as time went on Helena’s other children and step children were sent there and grandchildren following.
She was meant to be safe and happy for the rest of time, it had been the least Katherine could do after failing her to protect her from the start. 
Now all of Katherine's first children had fallen due to something Ken had done; once again Helena had been taken from those who loved her, however for the first time she was grateful for the curse Ken had placed on her son. 
It had done as it promised and returned him to her halls once the hour passed. Even trapped and sealed, the curse had managed to pull the thing that bound him back to the underworld.
She let out a loud breath as she finally got to Zagreus’s room the doors opening without her touch to find in the centre was a sarcophagus.
She narrowed her eyes.
 It wasn't hard to see who made it, Jen’s handiwork was clear, Ken’s banished daughter but Katherine remembered them by something far worse.
The one that had made the blade Aphrodite had used to kill Zagreus when he was barely more than a toddler, who had sided with their then sister-wife over their half sister, Persephone and led Ken to curse Zagreus for his own safety.
Katherine raised her hand, if Hephaestus was the one that had stolen her children then she simply had to find their sarcophagi.
After all age equalled power with their kind, even before she and Persephone had merged their powers, Hephaestus was millennia too young to play against Hades.
The sarcophagus lid cracked open as the enchantment failed and broke.
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treadsuren · 1 year ago
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Elain as retelling of Helen of Troy
First, sorry for my english Google translate
Today I found out that apparently Elain's story is a retelling of Helen of Troy (Sparta).(Elriel theory)I know that a retelling changes fundamental points, but as a person who has read The Iliad and The Odyssey, I seriously can't believe that someone could get excited when comparing Azriel to Paris. Look, I don't hate Azriel, I like him not as much as Lucien but it's an offense to make him a Paris. That is to say, thanks to the fact that the guy could not keep his "little friend" inside his chiton, a war occurs in which Hector, one of the most perfect male characters in classical literature that has ever existed, dies. Yes, I hate Paris of Troy.Look, Helena hated Paris at times, yes, they escaped together but when she saw the worm behind that pretty face she despised him and she regretted fleeing her land.
The Iliad:
"Not I I'll(Helen) never go back again. It would be wrong, disgraceful to share that coward's bed(Paris) once more.The women of Troy would scorn me down the years. Oh the torment-never-ending heartbreak!"
And in the Odyssey Helen (Elain) and Menelaus (Lucien) are very happy in their palace in Sparta and receive Telemachus after war was ended.
The Odyssey :
"The king gave Menelaus a pair of bathing-tubs in silver, two tripods, ten bars of gold, and apart from these his wife presented Helen her own precious gifts: a golden spindle, a basket that ran on casters solid silver polished off with rims of gold."
So yes, we can say that a retelling modifies certain aspects of the plot but Azriel does not deserve to be demoted to being a Paris
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petitsdieu · 4 months ago
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SHE WALKS, "BAREFOOT TOWARD THE DOOR."
collection collected by tumblr user katadesmoi from this post. transcripts under readmore. too long.
Euripides Helen 761-763 / William Arrowsmith Helen Foreword xii / HD Helen in Egypt "Eidolon" 2.2.2992-3003 / Colin Leach Helen Introduction 8 / HD Helen in Egypt "Pallinode" 3.8.648-657 / HD Helen in Egypt "Pallinode" Book 3.8 / Gorgias Economium I.2 / Euripides Helen 169-170 / HD Helen in Egypt "Pallinode" 6.5.1141-1146 / HD Helen in Egypt "Leuke" 3.8
1. Euripides Helen 761-763
MENELAOS: No. We were tricked by the gods. The Helen we seized was only a mischievous phantom made of air.
SERVANT: What! All that pain endured for a mere ghost?
2. William Arrowsmith Helen Foreword xii
"...The palinodic fiction intensifies the tragedy of the war by demonstrating its futility, a war fought for the possession of a phantom. Helen - whoever "Helen" may be - is rehabilitated, but the result is to assert even more strongly the meaningless suffering of all those thousands who fought and died for ten long years to bring her home. In the end, the phantom who went to Troy is more real - more symbolically real, above all in her effect upon others - than the palinodic "flesh-and-blood" Helen of the play."
3. HD Helen in Egypt "Eidolon" 2.2.2992-3003
"Achilles said, which was the veil, / which was the dream? / truly, Troy had never been / till I cam here; / then I encountered or seemed to remember / an old enchantment, an old lover; / it seemed real till he insisted, / she died, died, died, / when the Walls fell; / Helen was never dead, / or is this death here? / Achilles said, a catafalque, a bier,"
4. Colin Leach Helen Introduction p 8
"...there's a good example at one point when the messenger, seeing one (real) Helen and believing her to be the other (eidolon, real-to-him) Helen, says, in effect, "Oh, hello Helen - so you were here, after all.""
5. HD "Pallinode" 3.8.648-657
""you called me Helena"; / "that was your name;" / "was my name?" / "in Sparta, in Greece"; / "and walking upon the ramparts?" / "I can see you still, a mist / or a fountain of water / in that desert; we died of thirst"; / "but you never spoke my name / till you called me-""
6. HD "Pallinode" 3.8
"She knows that her name was Helen, in Sparta, in Greece. But she wants to know of that other, "walking upon the ramparts." She does not directly ask Achilles if he recognises in her the Helen of his first accusation, "I have seen you upon the ramparts." Is this Helen actually that Helen? Achilles seems grudgingly to apologise for his first boorishness, "I was afraid." Who indeed would not be, at sudden encounter with the admitted first-case "of all-time, of all-history." Fate, Death, Reintegration, Resurrection? What as she then, if she was there, at all, in Troy? His answer is unequivocal and final, "a fountain of water in that desert ... we died of thirst."
7. Gorgias Economium I.2
"...praise the blameworthy. (2) It being required of the same man both to speak straight and to refute [crooked speech, one should refute] those blaming Helen, a woman concerning whom the testimony of those who are called poets has become univocal and unanimous - likewise the repute of her name, which has become a byword for calamities."
8. Euripides Helen 169-170
TEUCER: Your similarity to Helen is only / skin-deep; inside you're not a bit like her.
9. HD "Pallinode" 6.5.1141-1146
"one branch, one root in the dark; / I have not answered his question, / which was the veil? / which was the dream? / was the dream, Helen upon the ramparts? / was the veil, Helen in Egypt?"
10. HD "Leuke" 3.8
"Helen appears "in rent veil." When Aphrodite had appeared to him in his delirium, Paris had said, "a tattered garment folded across my knee, as she bent over me." Now Helen's garment or "veil" is "rent." Is the garment of the apparition synonymous with the "veil" of Helen? Is the "torn garment" in both cases, a symbol? Paris has accepted and must accept "a tattered garment" or an incomplete or partial manifestation of the vision, but Helen was suave and elegant, her "garment sheathed" her, as she "stepped from the painted prow." He says, "your sandal shone silver, by that, I knew you who would know you anywhere." But now, she has taken on the attributes of another. True, Paris had referred to himself and Helen as "Adonis and Cytheraea." But now he turns on her, "do you dare impersonate Her?" Helen is leaving him. We feel that she has renounced, with her "silver sandals," all claim to the world and her past affiliations with it. She walks, "barefoot toward the door."
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aphroditelovesu · 2 years ago
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Omg I am so happy to still see your greek content!
Thank you for feeding me so good with Hector content, I have been sooo starved. Fr only scrapping off of the Troy 2004 ver which is inaccurate af but scratches my itch for Hector content. I read the Iliad once and have been down bad for this man ever since.
I also feel like, while he is a very honor bound man, that if his brother can snatch a girl, who is married no less, with no social repercussions (heavy sarcasm) then the crowned prince can do so too. I mean, who is going to tell him anything? If nobody really nagged Paris besides Hector to send back Helen, then who would tell him to return the pretty lady who caught his eye by just unfortunately existing. Just put the blame on Aphrodite and say she said it was ok.
Ik I am low key ranting but seeing hector stuff got me so excited. I hope you do more stuff with him in the future! And if you need prompts just let me know, I got plenty.
I wish you all the best 💙
You're welcome, anon. I really like the characters in the Iliad, especially Achilles, Helen and Hector. Unfortunately there is so little or almost no content about the last two... The 2004 Troy movie is not bad, for me, but it's not the best. I don't like it very much, but the Iliad is very good, I read it for the first time when we were at the beginning of the Pandemic, in 2020.
I don't think I'm a fan of Troy and that kind of movie because it's not very similar to the original story, they always change something and, in my opinion, it changes the essence of the story 😕
I agree, although there are versions that say that Helena ran away with Paris and was not kidnapped, he is still the main culprit in the Trojan War and the fall of his own city. Stealing the wife of the King of Sparta is not the smartest decision in the world, even more so as this wife is "considered the most beautiful woman in the world". As you said 😁, always blame Aphrodite already and everything will be fine (well, maybe not for you to blame the goddess who has a temper-)
I intend and would love to write more for Hector and other characters in the Iliad. I already have a Helen headcanon to finish and since requests are open, if you want to send requests to Hector or anyone else, feel free.
About the prompts, I would love to! I started writing a list but my projects are like city hall, you know it's coming out but you never know when. Feel free to send it, anon!! ❤️❤️
All the best to you and take care! 💜💜
~ Lady L
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psychologeek · 2 years ago
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No no no no! You misunderstood!
Thay are *not* starting tw2
Lets get a reminder of WHY the war started. See, the war started bc Paris had to choose who is the prettiest goddess. Obviously, it wasn't just beuty - the 3 goddesses considered that tried to bribe him:
Hera offered ownership of all of Europe and Asia. Athena offered skill in battle, wisdom and the abilities of the greatest warriors. Aphrodite offered the love of the most beautiful woman on Earth: Helen of Sparta.
Paris choose Aphrodite. Just, u know, a tiny problem -
Helena was already married (King Menelaus of Sparta). And the war started because... Well... Mene wanted her back.
TO THE WAR!! it was.
Anyway :
If he didn't choose Helen, there's less chance of starting that war.
(maybe other wars, yes, but not Trojan war).
And at least with some skills from Athena, mayyyyyybe he would think about NOT letting an unknown object into his city *right after all the enemies disappear*
(just saying).
Did you see the tumblr poll about the golden Apple? Athena is winning.
tumblr gives yall this power and you guys immediately start trojan war 2. cant have shit on this website
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