#heath linton

[alfazoings]

kurokumo ishmael and kurokumo captain heath!!!!

[pvlvsdog]

how easy or hard is it to make the sinners finish? also are you fine with yandere stuff? I want to ask before requesting. Also if your requests aren’t open then feel free to ignore.

Oh my! I made a whole tier list with a friend^^ just need to pull it up. Over half the credit goes to the skinny dipping ask anon, haiii^^ also I’m all good with yandere stuff. I just might have difficulty with certain characters (base ID for Greg to name one, that might not be very long if I’m asked to write something about him; I’ll still write about him, but there’s not a lot to work with for the yandere theme in my eyes) but I will absolutely write it^^ also you will get bonus characters. Because it’s fun^^

TW: 18+, UNEDITED

Not finishing (sorry!):

Faust - sorry but I don’t think she ever came during sex. You can use toys or she can do the job herself and that works, but that’s it honestly. It’s not that you’re doing something wrong, she’s still choosing to spend time with you in that way, but I just think she would finish from touching herself. After all Faust knows Faust the best

Takes a long while:

Ryoshu - it’s not hard to make her finish but if you rush it, she won’t react well. It’s a whole process, getting to that first orgazm. She likes playing around before it, holding it off until she’s satisfied with the act. Like, she won’t ignore you in favour of her pleasure, she wants the both of you to get the most out of this. Which means neither of you is finishing quick, sorry

Sonya - also not that easy. He’s a chill guy, he doesn’t seem like he would mind. He likes you and it was a decent time either way, so it’s not a big issue if he didn’t come. I just feel like, despite his easygoing demeanour, if anything from the book carries over to the game, he miiight have a hard time letting himself be vulnerable during sexual encounters. Participates still, but it’s not a carefree ordeal and it makes orgasming harder. Can use his hand just fine though and doesn’t consider it a wasted night

Demian - kinda hard. Like, I just feel like it would be hard for him to reach a release, but he’d be damned if he still didn’t try. He’s fairly confident and knows himself well, so he has no problem guiding you a little so both of you can orgasm. With his tips it’s not really hard. Side note, but I feel like the experience you’d get is worth it, come on, in the book he’s such an agent of chaos it’s iconic. Yeah he’s calm. But like, if I asked that man to tie my shoes he could as well run off with my shoelaces to prove some point he made earlier hhh

Last above average:

Verg - kinda hard? Like, it’s easier than with the ones above, but you will have to put some effort into pleasing him. He’s guarded and keeps most at an arm’s length so to have a genuine sexual encounter with you, he needs to trust and know you a bit. I don’t think he would be a 10/10 at communicating so you also wouldn’t have a lot to go off of. It changes with time, the communication part, but he still takes a bit to finish

Ishmael - she takes some time as well. I think she’s pretty experienced and has had many amazing as well as mediocre encounters so given that range, don’t expect to just waltz into her room and make her scream your name upon your touch. Good thing is, she has a good idea about what works, just take her suggestions and you’ll get there (she’ll do to ;3). Other component could be the fact that she often doesn’t feel comfortable letting her guard down and not being in control. So, especially if you’re more dominant, I could see some issues stemming from that early on, because as open as she would be to give things a try, if you’re a more dominant person, it could be difficult for her to work with. Not your fault, just give her some time. In bed and outside of it

Hong Lu - I can’t explain it much, I just think it’s not super easy as well. Again, you won’t have him panting and moaning just from doing the bare minimum, but let our curious man explore, make it worth a while, and he’ll reach an orgasm at his pace

Kromer - takes a bit too. She’s pretty horny with a high sex drive but she likes to have her time with you. Likes that you have you to try a bit before she’ll come too

Standard timing 😌😌:

Dante - i feel like they have a pretty average timing. Perhaps it would be faster but they overthink a bit and it’s all a little bit „new”. They don’t even fully know (or well, remember) what they like so that also plays a role. Again, it’s easier than with the characters above but they don’t come super fast

Yi Sang - also pretty much within what you would expect, you have to get him a bit worked up, it’s not as long of a process as it is with some other sinners, but definitely enough for you two to get a bit creative with the foreplay and such

Meursault - I think we just figured getting him placed in the middle of the tier is just funny considering his demeanour. That man is the standard, the average, the perfect representation of the mean. Sex with him definitely isn’t vanilla, I just think he finishes at a very predictable timing, never having you too worked up but also not rushing it

Hopkins - adding him as a silly bonus, I just think it’s funny he stuck in my brain. He also takes a pretty expected amount of time, he has to have some solid foreplay but it’s not like, really hard for you to get him to finish. Just let him have his fun first

Fairly easy:

Don - if you know where her „weaknesses” lay (and it’s not a difficult thing, she’s pretty obvious, I think. Again, I’m keeping in mind how easily she gave herself away when she was questioned about her feelings on being beaten up in CIII, that woman was stuttering like crazy. So like, just go for whatever flusters her and that’s your cue as to what you should do during sex) it’s a very short road from there to having her orgasm. Being easily excitable seems to seep into that part of her life as well :3

Rodya - she knows herself well and is used to putting herself first (since life taught her that if you don’t, nobody else might. Not so say she isn’t a generous person when she can, but like, it is often something she does for attention or praise in general, I think sex is a bit of a different case) so her objective is to have a good time. It might change as you two grow closer, but for the main part she just uses her own knowledge in what gets her off and works from there. Not saying you don’t have to put any work in on your part, but she will make it very easy. If she wants to have sex with you, at least before you two get closer, it’s so that she can have a release, so that will be her main priority. She’ll be nice to you sure, she knows how to be sweet and charming, even when there’s sweat rolling down her face and her back is arching while she adjusts your hands to grip her just right. But before she’s ready to be vulnerable, the sex is more so to fulfil her needs (coming, feeling important, so on) than to grow closer to you

Outis - my funny explanation is “fast but only if you’re Dante” but my actual reasoning for saying that she would be rather quick to finish is that I think it’s been so long and she’s so pent up that it just makes sense. Like, she’s not about to ask for sex from just anyone, she ignores that need too much. So when she finally has sex with you, oh, she clearly means it and has been wanting to do so for a very long time. All in all, she’s on the brink anyways so getting her off is a very easy task

Gregor - that man is starved and kind of easily… well affected by your actions, let’s say. He has no real experience with being desired by someone so you don’t have to try much to get him worked up. Your honest advances and the way you treat him oftentimes leave him exasperated (he can’t believe over the half of things you’re saying, especially given that he would probably make you aware how his modifications will affect any intimate relationship you might want to have with him), but he’d be lying if he said that whatever you were doing wasn’t working. Like, he’s not surprised he’s into it, he just can’t believe that you would want to make such advances towards him in the first place. Honestly if it wasn’t for his self deprecation and fear of hurting you, he’d be on the bottom tier. But those dark thoughts accompany him even when he’s being intimate (or, well, especially then) so he’s still only somewhat below average. He probably blames it on his stamina (which also could be a factor, he’s not as senile as he makes himself out to be but he certainly does struggle keeping up in bed) and probably mumbles something about being “too old for this” and how “you’re going to end him if you keep doing things like this” (his very roundabout way of saying that you affect him greatly). So, with all that in mind, he doesn’t last very long. The only thing keeping him from coming undone upon your touch is concern for your safety should his body act up because of the strong emotions you cause him to feel

Gotta go fast (sorry):

Heathcliff - not sorry about putting him in this category, only sorry for the joke. I mean, that man is pent up, worked up and so, so oblivious to his own feelings that you won’t be having any troubles with making him come. I mean, for the past few years he dedicated himself to the thought of what could (or in this case - couldn’t) be and his ability to reflect and own up to the fact that you’re making him feel a very specific kind of way is hindered as a result. That man could get a raging boner every time you touch him and he still would hold off on reflecting on his feelings. So when he’s finally in a position to have sex with you, you will have him all worked up in record time. Heaving, panting with drops of sweat rolling down his forehead. He desires you greatly, even if he has a hard (hihi) time admitting that (well, that would mean that his whole… thing was a waste of time and also would call into question if he was ever wanted by the person he’s been chasing this whole time, I mean, he couldn’t imagine having her act towards him in the same way you do. Which… well, he doesn’t love the thought). That and his lack of experience with all things sexual leads him to release around the time you’re trying to get started. He tries to last longer and he won’t leave you hanging if he doesn’t. Well… I can certainly tell you that he won’t. But he’s going to try anyways. Just don’t tease him about it, that might actually work in the opposite way. Or do tease him, if that’s what you’re into ;3

Sinclair - if you two getting heated, you’re already halfway done with making him come. He gets horny easily and fast, but usually (always, prior to meeting you probably) his hand has to do. And in the book he is quite filled with thoughts of pretty sexual nature (that are quite a cause of his shame). But insecurity and guilt play a part here too, making him believe that he doesn’t really deserve to experience nice things like that. So when you’re so close to him, something he fantasizes about quite often, it’s making him overwhelmed in the best, most alien way. All the thoughts that could hold him back are gone and instead he is overcome with lust. Which then leads to a very fast release. Just like Heath, I totally see him worked up, heaving and absolutely coming undone. Buuut with the way he is, I don’t think it’s just him being all shy and cumming cutely just to lay down and stutter out a ‘thank you’. That lad is filled with so much anger issues and unprocessed, strong emotions that what you are more likely to get is an extremely horny, awkward, rough encounter and after you blink he’s done and in the process of folding under the weight of post nut clarity (saying this lovingly, not to be biased as the author of this, but this is absolutely a ‘would’ for me. I just don’t think he’s what you would consider… conventionally “good”. Which is subjective, even if there is a ‘popular version’ of what good sex should look like)

[porcubus]

Because the writers do not say it directly and fans cant acknowledge something unless it is spelled out in blood on the windows we will be seeing two violent racists tastelessly woobified and slobbing on eachother and the man they targeted and abused since childhood for months to come #enemiestolovers

[aihaloos]

I just realized we saw Rodya in Don's pre-UT3 but we don't have W Rodya yet.

W Rodya for WARP Train event real?!?!?!

[melonisopod]

A Buddhist reading of Wuthering Heights.

[vintagelasvegas]

Silver Palace to Mermaid's, 1956-2016

Silver Palace (1956), 32 Fremont St, Las Vegas. The casino was built in place of the W. R. Thomas building and had six different casinos names over its 60 years, aka Carousel Club, Gambler's Hall of Fame, Sundance West, Sally Sally's, and Mermaid's.

SILVER PALACE ('56-'64)

'54-55: The casino is planned in ’54. The W.R. Thomas building on this corner is deemed unsafe by the city and demolished in Jan. ’55. The casino also takes the place of Silver Cafe, closed Jan. ’55 after being sold to the casino group by owners Sui Mong Fong and Kim Fong.

'56: Silver Palace premiere opening is 5/25/56, with grand opening 6/8/56. Spinning Wheel Corp is the owner with over 20 licensees. Earl Snyder, president. Zick & Sharp, architect; Lee Linton, interior design. The casino is modern, with the city’s first escalator, casino, restaurant, and slot machines designed to resemble medieval castles. Signs by Heath Sign Co of Los Angeles. The casino is open only six months, closed by IRS, Nov. 30.

'58: Silver Palace reopens, 5/20/58, operated by Marion Hicks and parters of the Thunderbird. The restaurant is Louigi's Broiler.

'59: Silver Palace and Louigi's Broiler closed 6/30/59.

'61: Silver Palace reopened by Myron Lewis, 5/5/61.

'63: Lewis remains property landlord as Melvin Axler group takes over Silver Palace business in Oct.

CAROUSEL CLUB ('64-'74)

'64: Renamed Carousel Club in Aug; Whiskey A' Go-Go in the basement floor. Carousel Club closed 9/23/64.

'65: Carousel Club reopened by B. Mclaney group in Jun. Carou-Cellar discotheque in the basement in Jul. Building sign changed to “McLaney’s Carousel.”

'67: Carousel Club licensees change to Salvator A Rizzo, Robert Ayoub, Rocco Paravia in Apr. American Federation of Casino and Gaming Employees leader Tom Hanley accuses the casino of taking orders from hidden owners, prompting Gaming Board investigation; AFCGE pickets the club in Aug-Sep. Owners close on 11/19/67 citing IRS charges.

'68: YESCO sues Carousel owners for unpaid sign lease in Jul. Marty Kutzen as Marlee Inc. buys the club with a Teamsters loan, reopens 8/30/68. “McLaney’s” removed from the sign.

'69: Al Garbian buys Marlee Inc, Carousel Club.

'73: Deil Gustafson buys Marlee Inc., Carousel Club.

GAMBLER’S HALL OF FAME ('74-'76) SUNDANCE WEST ('76-'79)

'74: Carousel’s name changed Gamblers Hall of Fame in summer; remodeled by architect Lee Linton, and Ad-Art designer Charles Barnard.

'76: Gambler’s Hall closed 2/4/76 after bankruptcy petition is filed against the casino by a lender. Al Sachs buys the casino out of bankruptcy in May. Sachs reopens as Sundance West, 7/1/76. Facade updated, signs by Ad-Art.

'78: Cosmo's Underground restaurant opened by Tony Calabrese in the lower level of the building.

'79: Sundance West sold to Herb Pastor, closes for remodeling in Dec. Facade updated, signs by Ad-Art.

SASSY SALLY'S ('80-'99) MERMAID'S ('99-'16)

'80: Reopened as Sassy Sally's, 4/1/80. Sally was the name of Pastor's babysitter.

'94: Cosmo's Underground closes.

'99: Casino remodeled as Mermaid's.

'06: Pastor sells Mermaid's, along with Glitter Gulch and La Bayou, to son Steve Burnstine (Granite Gaming Group).

'16: Burnstine sells Mermaid's, along with Glitter Gulch and La Bayou, to Derek and Greg Stevens. The property was demolished in 2017.

Casino to Replace Oldest Building Erected Here. Review-Journal, 12/29/54; Songs May Open New Cafe. Review-Journal, 1/4/55; Appeals Group Told to Study Building Case. Review-Journal, 1/20/55; At Long Last. Review-Journal, 2/1/55; Silver Palace to Open Friday. Review-Journal, 5/24/56; Silver Palace Opens Doors on Fremont Street Friday. Review-Journal, 5/25/56; T-Men Close Silver Palace Doors. Review-Journal, 11/30/56; New Group Negotiates for Casino. RJ 7/1/59; Casino Center to Use Silver Palace for Meets. Review-Journal, 11/20/60; Carousel Padlocked by Owner. Review-Journal, 9/24/64; City Approves Carousel Licenses. Review-Journal, 4/6/67; Roy Vanett. Hidden Casino Owners Block Talks - Union. Review-Journal, 8/10/67; Gaming Pickets Hit LV Carousel. Review-Journal, 8/25/67; State Eyes LV Casino. Review-Journal, 9/26/67; Carousel Club Closes: IRS Demand Blamed. Review-Journal, 11/20/67; Carousel Wins Okay. Review-Journal, 8/30/68; Associated Press. Board OKs Nugget, Carousel stock sales. Review-Journal, 7/12/73; Garbian to be active in casino activities. Review-Journal, 12/27/74; Al Sachs hold keys to Gamblers Hall. Review-Journal, 5/3/76; Closed Down. Review-Journal, 12/7/79; Opening. Review-Journal, 3/9/80; Charles F. Barnard. The Magic Sign. ST Publications, '93.

[kikunai]

Limbus Company Canto VI's insane foreshadowing, callbacks and details

(AKA really fucking good and consistent writing)

these are details that only make sense when you play canto 6 for the second time. spoilers alert.

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Mirror world shenanigans:

you can hear Heathcliff?'s pitch dropping slowly before the reveal (6-33/EP35)

T Corp residents carry timepieces as personal identification (6-03/EP4) but they do not have them, not even their chains. (6-18/EP19)

Dead Rabbit boss and Heathcliff have around the same height, which is very unusual as PM has diverse heights for different characters

DR boss calls his gang "Mad Coney" at first (6-10/EP12) [though this may be a nickname]

in the conversation between DR boss and Heathcliff (6-10/EP12), the former has an uncanny deep understanding of his past.

Faust:

<… Sometimes, Faust looks like she's pausing to look at something before speaking.> -- Dante (6-25/EP28)

Faust makes an indifferent noise when 1. Ishmael and Yi Sang observed that broken mirrors were heard when dead rabbit henchmen die (6-18/EP19); and 2. Heathcliff? mentioned he watches Hindley dies every time (6-33/EP35)

Lightning strikes:

"… A momentary musing reveals that a strike of levin brings about a sensation that is not unlike the joy of fireworks. It fills the dark and cold void of the night sky with its incandescent brilliance, even for a brief moment, before fading away into oblivion." "… Right. And in exchange, it loses everything it has, burning and leaving nothing but ash behind. What joy is there to be found?" -- Yi Sang and Heathcliff (6-07/EP8)

Each strike of lightning is a blessing… For it signifies that you have a place in her heart. -- Linton (6-36/EP40) The thunder of every lightning that struck the manor… was the sound of her breaking heart. With every heartbreak, the lightning strikes. The pain, the bereavement, the shock… are all manifest as lightning, then darkness. Thus, the lightning only indicates that the person in question was so important to her… -- Linton (6-37/EP41)

(before the funeral) "I was never once 'rich' in this manor. I wasn't even allowed to be content. Not even for a moment. And this manor. This manor never accepted me, not even for a—" (6-07/EP8)

"No… this isn't at all what I… I…" "Come back, Cathy. Please…" "Hear my voice just this once, Cathy!!!" -- Heathcliff (6-12/EP14)

"You were the first to leave her, yes… but I assure you, it was certainly for the better. Because she would have… left you first if you hadn't. Because she would have grown tired of you!" "Tired… of me…?" --Linton and Heathcliff (6-21/EP24)

Hindley dying (6-32/EP34)

Heathcliff distorting (6-34/EP37)

Linton dying (6-37/EP42)

Nelly defeated (6-46/EP50)

Heathcliff stabbing himself with the golden bough (6-47/EP51)

Heathcliff dismissed Catherine's feelings when conversing with Yi Sang. It was supposed to brighten Heathcliff's heart, to bring him joy, yet he believes it is nothing and leaves nothingness.

Colours:

Heathcliff mentioned he likes the colour black as "the colour you get when you dump an entire set of paint into a bucket [...] And that's exactly why I tolerate it. Keep throwing paint over paint over paint… and you get black" (6-05/EP6)

"Thus, I have journeyed to this world. To devour every one of those hours. So that you may be stained with the same despair that painted me…" -- Heathcliff? (6-34/EP36)

"Endless vortex of colours, mixing into a sludge. A splash of grey paint over the heart that once gleamed violet. A splash of bloody red paint. Splashes of faded colours. Again and again… until there was nothing but blackness. Unseen by all. Unnecessary to anyone. The colour of the pitch-black night -- The colour of the Backstreets." -- Heathcliff (6-46/EP50)

[ Not a single color remained in the silent Wuthering Heights once the tempest passed. All monochromatic, save for patches of color. ] (6-48/EP53)

[ Come back, Heath. To the manor where the last vestiges of its beauty remain in its violet flowers. ] (6-01/EP1)

Colours are a synecdoche of Wuthering Heights, their impact and their affluence. After Hindley, Linton and Catherine's death, all it remains was Heathcliff.

Nelly's lies, partial truths and betrayal:

Nelly wrote the invitation letter, with Catherine's remark. "Besides… all she said is that she'd be waiting. She never said she missed me or 'wanted' to see me." (6-04/EP5)

"Oh, pish posh! Ridiculous! I was a Butler in direct service of Miss Catherine. Young Master Linton could plead and beg all he wants, but I won't always be taking his side." -- Nelly (6-11/EP13). This however doesnt mean she wont be against the sinners ("This manor has never been on your side. Not even once." (6-45/EP45)).

Nelly offhandedly mentioned she removed all the mirrors in the estate (6-18/EP19) [before Linton moved in (6-36/EP40)], presumably to make Catherine curious about the capital M Mirror

she doesnt recall Catherine opening the letters (6-18/EP19) nor blaming Linton for burning them (6-23/EP26) [even he claimed to have burnt them, possibly to spite Heathcliff (6-21/EP23)] since she burnt them before Catherine can even see them

Heathers, or Heaths for short:

Catherine spent a fortune to give heath colours (6-08/EP9), though Heathcliff did not get the meaning at first("You're wrong. There was no particular love for these flowers. There was no room, no warmth in that heart to spare for mere flowers.")

Linton brought Catherine a golden flower. she remarked that it was for his own sake, only as if he truly loves her he would have brought a violet flower instead (6-18/EP19)

"Those flowers bloom in places like desolate moors or steep cliffsides, so they may appear more lonely than anything else in the world. [...] All other flowers lose their colours and fade as they wither away. But this flower… even as it withers and wilts... remains the same colour. So when you're gone, I will dry these flowers and decorate my room with them." "Uh… what, like make rings of them flowers? Don't say something so foolish. Why would I ever leave you?" -- Catherine and Heathcliff (6-46/EP50)

"Those Flowers... are called Heath. The loneliest flowers that take root and bloom in the wild moorlands, but they're also flowers that survive no matter what devastating tempest comes their way. They endure it all and wait" -- Heathcliff (6-48/EP53)

Catherine's self sacrifice:

"Because birds are meant to fly. Not to be killed like that. Yes. Birds do not belong in their cages; they are beings born to soar the skies. So I am going to empty this pillow of their feathers." (6-19/EP21)

"… will every Heathcliff in every world find happiness?" "Yes, he will. So… it's not too late. For the sake of every remaining Heathcliff in every world, please, invite us to your world beyond. So that we may kill you first and move on to the next, to kill the Catherine of a different world. Again, and again…" "Then, only then, can every Heathcliff reach his own heaven." -- Catherine and Every Catherine (6-47/EP51)

"I don't love every Heathcliff in every world." "I love you. As you are now." -- Catherine (6-48/in game cutscene)

[ But Heathcliff was no longer trapped in a living dream. Perhaps that is precisely why he could open the door to see a new, wider world. ] (6-48/EP53)

The rose from Le Petit Prince referenced by Demian (6-48/EP53 post credit)

Vergilius:

"I am no longer concerned that, in my desire to fulfill the conditions for every clause in my contract, the manager might be irreversibly… hurt. I would be left with nothing if such a thing were to happen." -- Vergilius (6-06/EP7)

read Leviathan please.

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"… Where do you suppose he is? Heathcliff." "Miss..." "He doesn't have anything left. I am everything he has…" -- Catherine and Nelly (6-12/EP14) "In a way, we’re all ‘deprived’… and that can change a lot of things. Maybe there are things that we can understand only when we’re left with nothing." -- Hong Lu (6-01/EP1)

[bethanydelleman]

Hi there! I’m just finishing Wuthering Heights and I need to clear my brain before starting Tenant of Wildfell Hall. To that end:

What the hell did I just read?

We all agree that Cathy #1 haunted Heathcliff to death because she was tired of waiting for him/fulfilling her dying injunction that she’d take him with her, correct?

What does the symbolism of Heathcliff’s, Cathy’s, and Edgar’s graves all three isolated and forever together mean? Is Edgar in his heaven, or is he doomed to sit by and watch Heathcliff and Cathy cavort over the moor as ghosts?

As a decades-long Austen reader, may I repeat: what the ever loving hell was that??

I know right! What the hell is that? Absolutely bonkers.

Hm, maybe with the Catherine haunting. I felt like he was being powered by revenge and when it finally achieved it and it wasn't fulfilling, he just deflated like a bouncy castle when someone switches off the air. We know he must have worked like crazy to make all that wealth in 3 years, however he got it, and then he worked like crazy to get possession of both houses and even the people, but to what end? He couldn't decide and then just... died. Maybe he also finally grasped that no matter what, he couldn't get Catherine back, even if he was now a person she could have married. But also haunting.

As for the symbolism of the graves, I think Edgar is fine:

I sought, and soon discovered, the three headstones on the slope next the moor: the middle one grey, and half buried in heath; Edgar Linton’s only harmonized by the turf and moss creeping up its foot; Heathcliff’s still bare.

Heathcliff isn't moving on, so he's bare. Catherine has become one with the heath, Edgar is "harmonized", so he's moved on. That is my feeling at least. Heathcliff is decomposing into Catherine and loving it for some weird reason.

Not Jane Austen that's for sure!

[thevampiricnihal]

Catherines and Bogs and Transitions and Death

“We ran from the top of the Heights to the park, without stopping—Catherine completely beaten in the race, because she was barefoot. You’ll have to seek for her shoes in the bog tomorrow.”

(Chapter 6) (italics mine)

“The place of Catherine’s interment, to the surprise of the villagers, was neither in the chapel under the carved monument of the Lintons, nor yet by the tombs of her own relations, outside. It was dug on a green slope in a corner of the kirk-yard, where the wall is so low that heath and bilberry-plants have climbed over it from the moor; and peat-mould almost buries it.”

(Chapter 16) (italics mine)

“‘Eh, dear! Mrs. Dean!’ she exclaimed. ‘Well! there is a talk about you at Gimmerton. I never thought but you were sunk in the Blackhorse marsh, and missy with you, till master told me you’d been found, and he’d lodged you here! What! and you must have got on an island, sure? And how long were you in the hole? Did master save you, Mrs. Dean? But you’re not so thin—you’ve not been so poorly, have you?’

‘Your master is a true scoundrel!’ I replied. ‘But he shall answer for it. He needn’t have raised that tale: it shall all be laid bare!’

‘What do you mean?’ asked Zillah. ‘It’s not his tale: they tell that in the village—about your being lost in the marsh; and I calls to Earnshaw, when I come in “Eh, they’s queer things, Mr. Hareton, happened since I went off. It’s a sad pity of that likely young lass, and cant Nelly Dean.” He stared. I thought he had not heard aught, so I told him the rumour. The master listened, and he just smiled to himself, and said, “If they have been in the marsh, they are out now, Zillah. Nelly Dean is lodged, at this minute, in your room. You can tell her to flit, when you go up; here is the key. The bog-water got into her head, and she would have run home quite flighty; but I fixed her till she came round to her senses. You can bid her go to the Grange at once, if she be able, and carry a message from me, that her young lady will follow in time to attend the squire’s funeral.”

(Chapter 28) (italics mine) (I will forever wonder whether Heathcliff spread the rumor himself at the village he merely took advantage here of an already existing one).

“He turned abruptly to the fire, and continued, with what, for lack of a better word, I must call a smile: ‘I’ll tell you what I did yesterday! I got the sexton, who was digging Linton’s grave, to remove the earth off her coffin lid, and I opened it. I thought, once, I would have stayed there: when I saw her face again—it is hers yet!—he had hard work to stir me; but he said it would change if the air blew on it, and so I struck one side of the coffin loose, and covered it up: not Linton’s side, damn him! I wish he��d been soldered in lead. And I bribed the sexton to pull it away when I’m laid there, and slide mine out too; I’ll have it made so: and then by the time Linton gets to us he’ll not know which is which!”

(Chapter 29) (italics mine)

From Janet Gezari’s The Annotated Wuthering Heights

“Her father-in-law went up, held the light to Linton’s face, looked at him, and touched him; afterwards he turned to her.

“Now—Catherine,” he said, “how do you feel?”

She was dumb.

“How do you feel, Catherine?” he repeated.

“He’s safe, and I’m free,” she answered: “I should feel well—but,” she continued, with a bitterness she couldn’t conceal, “you have left me so long to struggle against death alone, that I feel and see only death! I feel like death!”

‘And she looked like it, too!”

(Chapter 30) (italics mine)

For both Catherines, bogs seem to signify a transition from one house to the next and the death caused by this transition. Catherine Earnshaw is literally buried in a bog. It is apparent that Catherine Linton’s metaphorical death is a manufactured fake one by the fact that she was never really lost in the bog, it was just a rumor probably spread by Heathcliff.

Just some thoughts I had ahead of reading @vickythestrange ‘s short story about bogs.

[dinosore19]

MAJOR CANTO VI SPOILERS; I JUST NEED TO ASK THIS

Is Erlking gonna be an ID or nah? Cause I thought that since Heath got an id at the very beginning before canto vi started (that oufi id) i thought he couldnt get another id. cause i dont think a single sinner as gotten two ids in one canto drop before right? go ahead and tell me im if it's happened before i just dont remember.

also like, in a narrative sense, isnt Erlking kinda. Gone (?)

Like when Cathy deleted her self and all the other Catherine's, Erlking's reason for existing ceased to be, meaning HE stops existing right? But I think there's another one running around (i think) cause Linton Gregor, Nelly Ryoshu, and Maid Ishmael (prolly the others too) all mention him as something that exists in their world even after Catherine's cessation from existence in their respective upties. idk how he's still around, i thought he wouldn't be an issue after Dante and Co. magic eraser-ed his ass, but apparently his Hater Energy is so powerful he can just still be a Mirror Menace with or without Catherine's death to make him omega depressed enough to have him go on a multidimensional suicide crusade or whatever. i have no clue of that's ACTUALLY the case, im just guessing. and sleepy.

The point is, its been over a month and im starting to doubt ever getting an Erlking Id and i'll have to settle with his cameo as a Shadow in Nelly Ryoshu's third uptie art and his cameo as shadow copies in Linton Gregor's third uptie art. Which FUNNILY ENOUGH, are units i do not have.

That's all. Maybe I misconstrued some things and am (hopefully) super wrong, idk. I just wanted to get this off my chest because i am In Love with that asshole and Want Him, but if Project Moon says No, then I will Weep Forever.

[thevampiricnihal]

“I sought, and soon discovered, the three headstones on the slope next the moor: the middle one grey, and half buried in the heath; Edgar Linton’s only harmonised by the turf and moss creeping up its foot; Heathcliff’s still bare.

I lingered round them, under that benign sky: watched the moths fluttering among the heath and harebells, listened to the soft wind breathing through the grass, and wondered how any one could ever imagine unquiet slumbers for the sleepers in that quiet earth.”

(Chapter 34, Wuthering Heights)

“Now this father and daughter depended on each other to live. As she repeated this, a fear was passing through her mind with the speed of lightning: what if one of them was left alone? Then, to escape this fear, she was tugging at her father.

‘Let us leave,’ she was saying, and shutting her eyes, her heart was answering that fear with a prayer: ‘together, always together, living, and dying…’”

(Chapter 22, Aşk-ı Memnu)

Both last lines are ironic and for the same reason: The protagonists are undead.

There has been much ink spilled on Heathcliff and Catherine being undead, I won’t go over it.

The impossibility of Nihal dying alongside her father has been recognized as early as the first proper review of the novel by Halit Ziya’s friend Mehmet Rauf in 1901:

“It's true that Nihal is so happy now that she has her father that she doesn't want anything anymore; but poor little Nihal, a day will come, maybe tomorrow, something else will take your father, who is getting older and older, too, what will you do then? As "he" said, you are such a "poem, as if made for eyes only" that what will be of you then?

The book ends with this bitter effect; while the parts of the novel remain separate as the novel continues, they all take effect at once, the excitement gains intensity, and after eight hours of reading, the intense excitement and deep passions that one feels when the book is closed leave one astonished...”

Mehmet Rauf sees Nihal’s tragedy and loneliness in her being unmarriageable, “made for eyes only” - not built for sex and motherhood. I see her tragedy in her being a vampire. She is destined to outlive her father, outlive them all and to stay young.

[sparklyaxolotlstudent]

The Bat Cafe. Or Paw Cafe. Or Something. A pet friendly cafe in the Monster High World.

Barkimedes went with his Pterodactyl pet so he would play with his friends while he finished homework.

I mixed some G1 pets that I think mix well with the G3 dolls... Or that I don't have the G3 version yet ( Sir Hoots-a-lot, Hissette, Chewlian, Azura and Neptuna) and a G2 turtle I also have. The Cave Club pets also fit really well with G3 pets, wonder if they have the same designer sculptor (the pterodactyl and the purple sabertooth tiger), the Brittany(Defa Lucy) Chicken, some random butterflies a cricket, Heath's salamander, Hoodude's teddy bear and the customized pets, Batrick(blue count fabulou), Linton ( grey Dustin) and Betto (teal Neptuna)

I decided to keep it somewhat neutral in case I wanted it for something different, so the only thing glued is the desk and the platforms.

[texasthoughtsaboutnothing]

Heathcliff/ Canto VI Stuff from the Event!

We got a setup for Canto VI much in the way I think we expected. IIRC in the source material, Heathcliff just kinda shows up out of nowhere, but here he's been explicitly invited to Wuthering Heights. The changes the nature of the story a bit and frames Heathcliff in a fundamentally more sympathetic light, we'll see where we go with it especially with Isabelle and the generational revenge part of the story. We do now know Cathy is alive (or at least Heath thinks she is), and we are for sure going to T Corp. We can assume the Lintons can afford colors in T Corp's Nest, I wonder if they'll play with that and only buy specific colors.

Further speculation considering the nature of T Corp, I wonder if they might incorporate a time loop to more accurately recreate the events of the book? Like, Heathcliff can't marry Isabelle nor can Edgar meaningfully isolate Cathy from Heathcliff without getting into months of time, and using fucked up time technology can get around that. I expect the Lintons and/or the Earnshaws to be major families invested in T Corp, maybe similar to Sinclair's family they'll have the L Corp branch right in their basement.

This Canto will also get into territory that I feel will be a predictor for later Cantos. There's a lot of children in Wuthering Heights who unlike Pip are the children of main characters. How is that going to be handled? They might incorporate the time technology but part of Heathcliff's redemption (kinda sorta not really) is leaving the kids alone after all else goes wrong. Cathy dies in giving birth to her daughter, also named Cathy (this will not be confusing I'm sure) and Heath spiritually dies with her, and we need that guy to stick around to do dailies. He will need to have a reason to continue with the company, and I think it would be weird if he abandons some kids (or worse they get killed off) so he can continue with us. I have faith it will be handled well though, and I'm probably overthinking it.

[katyasophie]

"One time, however, we were near quarrelling.

He said the pleasantest manner of spending a hot July day was lying from morning till evening on a bank of heath in the middle of the moors, with the bees humming dreamily about among the bloom, and the larks singing high up overhead, and the blue sky and bright sun shining steadily and cloudlessly. That was his most perfect idea of heaven’s happiness.

Mine was rocking in a rustling green tree, with a west wind blowing, and bright white clouds flitting rapidly above; and not only larks, but throstles, and blackbirds, and linnets, and cuckoos pouring out music on every side, and the moors seen at a distance, broken into cool dusky dells; but close by great swells of long grass undulating in waves to the breeze; and woods and sounding water, and the whole world awake and wild with joy.

He wanted all to lie in an ecstasy of peace; I wanted all to sparkle and dance in a glorious jubilee.

I said his heaven would be only half alive; and he said mine would be drunk.

I said I should fall asleep in his; and he said he could not breathe in mine, and began to grow very snappish.

At last, we agreed to try both, as soon as the right weather came; and then we kissed each other and were friends."

-- catherine linton (wuthering heights, 1847)

[negativezero2]

HOLY SHIT CHAPTER 6.2

HOLY SHIT CHAPTER 6.2 SPOILERS SPOILERS HOLY SHIT

OK SO FIRST, THAT EXPERIMENT. That Linton wasn't lying, that basement can be horrifying! I'm not sure if it was outright confirmed, but my thought is that they were turning people into Pecca's intentionally.

Also Hindley FUCKING DISTORTING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CHAPTER. WHAT. I think it's genuinely fascinating too, distortions are "ordained by fate", like how the invitations get to people "by fate". Seems like Carmen has a hell of a lot more power than first thought. Hindley too like, wow... he's such a petty bastard but at the end, it turning out their dad literally liked Heath more than him, and his inferiority complex. Goddamn.

Fellas, is it gay to go to another reality so you can beat the other you to death? Happy to hear the real Matt was probably not much of an asshole, cuz I liked the guy. But Heath?, damn he's one hell've a guy.

I remember hearing the theory that inside Heath's body bag was Cathy, and it seems like that might be part of the symbolism. Heath "killed" Cathy due to their interwoven fates.... and that ending. The moment I saw Carmens eyes was the moment I got extremely anxious

As for theories? Next post

[dinosore19]

HI JUST WANTED TO SAY I SAW YOUR TAGS ABOUT ALICE IN WONDERLAND HEATHCATHY... YOUR BRAIN IS SO BIG

OH MY GISH THANK YOU??????

THATS NICE I REALLY APPRECIATE THE COMMENT!!!

i am still very lost on a lot of details. this is somewhere between a true idea and a daydream. i could make a list about the ways the white rabbit and march hare connects to heath and linton, but it would be very discombobulated and sloppy. and then i realized that the cheshire cat has no true character to play cause no one in canto vi is known for a smile (everyone's too sad to smile). i think every catherine would fit as the queen of hearts/the red queen as she mirrors catherine and the sequel to alice in wonderland is through the looking glass and looking glass is another phrase for mirror.

so nelly's role would probably be the dormouse, the only other member of the tea party. its sort of a stretch, but instead of being sleepy all the time, she makes others sleepy, which references nelly's sleepy smack. she would go about it with the same methods tho haha.

it should be noted, the jabberwocky is not an entity alice encounters in wonderland, it is a poem she reads in the ttlg. its a nonsense poem with nonsensical words, but the gist is that SOMEBODY killed SOMETHING. So erlking has the distinction of playing a character who is not from the first book, but the second, which i think could be symbolic of him not being from the original world like everyone else. although every catherine is playing the queen of hearts, its not uncommon to conflate her with the red queen (a character who also appears in ttlg) while still retaining more traits from the queen of hearts. it could be symbolic of both erlking and every catherine not being from the original world, however, every catherines affiliation with the queen of hearts would also make their division more apparent (like in canto vi when even though theyre fought together, they arent fought *together*)

hindley being the hatter, but instead of tea its booze. yeah thats all i got for him.

nah just kidding. so hindley being the hatter is important cause the hatter in the book isnt just having tea time just cause, he's trapped in tea time with the other members by an entity called Time (t corp is here too!). its evocative of how hindley is trapped in alcoholism (tea) and he is trapped by his violent insecurity complex (madness). he would want the party to stay how it is. keep the party going forever. he's sick of the party, he's sick of the company, and he's sick of the never-changing flavor of drink, but he wants to stay trapped, because he doesnt have a home without it (his obsession with wanting the manor in limbus).

i have much more to discuss but i have talked for far too long! ive thought a lot about this concept but its also poorly organized, ive been assembling it through symbols and motifs and there is still much more i am discovering as im compartmentalizing it all. this is all very embryonic so it is subject to change at any point. if you read all of this thank you! and once again thank you for the comment!