#he wants to be seen as North Star and not Starlo. he wants to BE someone so he went out and became someone
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frozenhi-chews · 2 months ago
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My current mental state rn
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hollowgears · 6 months ago
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SHOWDOWN!
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"If you're ever in the desert of the underground you better watch out! In the wild east lies a city full of criminals and outcasts who bow down to no one!"
Their sheriff is just as insane as the rest of them, always itching for a fight, the spotlight hog of the wild east, North star! If there's one person the scoundrels of the city listen to it's him, after all no monster can argue against a gun pointed at their face
Still- rumors say that the cruel sheriff actually has a heart behind his act, the monsters working under him act with a lot of respect, many rebels say that he gave them a home safe from the royal guard when no one else would...maybe there's still a heart of gold behind that rude exterior? Who knows!
Thoughts and extras:
Woah! I can't believe I finally got this done!
Starlo was a challenge to design for sure, his canon look is already so good! It was hard to make it different while still looking like something starlo could wear
My art has definitely improved quite a bit since starting this au (god I already feel like I need to redraw martlet!) and I wanted starlo to feel special as he was the first design that really...clicked y'know? I look at it and go: that's my boy!
Working on the au has also been a blast, and I can't thank you guys enough for the support, every reblog or fanart makes my days so much better
But enough about that! Let's talk of the star boy!
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As you can see I struggled quite a bit with his outfit (this is not by far the first attempt I made at him) in the beginning I almost took his poncho away! The blasphemy!
Well I guess even now it doesn't exactly qualify as a poncho...but hey close enough
Starlo uses three guns, although only two of them are seen most of the time, in this au starlo actually gets a proper genocide fight, and that's when he pulls out the big guns! (Haha get it-)
He would also have a special type of attack, yellow bullets that cause bleeding (think like karma damage) however the number of these types of bullets he fires is completely dependent on your LV
I'll answer any questions y'all have about him on asks- trust me I'm always itching to talk about these silly guys...
Perhaps ceroba would be next? Although she will take a while, god my wrist needs a break! (And the pile of studying I have to do keeps growing larger...)
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fuk1ngb1tch · 2 months ago
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Mutated Cores: Undertale Yellow edition! +Flowey n Clover comic
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Really enjoyed making this:) Undertale has a tight grip on me right now, especially Undertale yellow, so getting to draw them makes me very happy
Cause of that, I made a little comic too! I might continue it, I really enjoyed making it haha:)
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Anyway, closeups of the drawings and extra info will be under the cut:)
Flowey! The not so little jerk in this au:) in the full drawing, he's not exactly tall enough to match clovers height, but he's definitely big enough to intimidate a child! Especially frisk, who is smaller than him!
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Clover!!!!! I love clover!!!! Hadn't made their full body drawing yet, so here it is!!!! Love them so much<33 they're the character I've drawn the most of in this au, so they deserved it haha! They're 16 years old in this au, but still quite responsible, if sometimes a little reckless with their life at times. Clover might not actually end up being 5"6 specifically, but they're around that height:)
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Martlet! First design for her, might not be final, but I really like it right now:)) her colours are quite a bit darker than her sprite and such, but I like it^^
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(Also did a drawing of Martlet's arm test how I'd want to draw them in the future but anyway) next is North Star/Starlo! I dulled his colours slightly, (and also gave him a tail cause I've seen a lot of designs that give him a tail, and they're so cute) and also decided on his rough height. (I had looked at height comparison site when deciding this) so he was 6"6 before the mutation, but is currently 7"2:)
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And lastly Humans! Wonder why they're like that🤔 eh doesn't matter, I just wanted to draw em hehe:3 (last one is my OC Quaver, the integrity soul)
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hexedrosel-arts · 20 days ago
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Thinking about undertale yellow again,
(spoilers below!!!)
It's a tragedy, the prequel to a story with a happy ending, one this story never truly gets, they will get a happy ending, but not when this game ends.
A child on borrowed time is what Clover is. They have Flowey, but that won't do. Some day Flowey will get bored, but Clover can take what they can get. They have a mission after all...
One that was doomed to fail from the start. Clover is a tragedy running on time they can't afford to lose, but they will lose it, we know the ending already. They will die, they are doomed, so was everyone they came looking for. While the run into the chance to find out what happened, we know what happened, Flowey knows what happened, so many know what happened. An ending we can never stop. Not even Clover's friends can stop it, or know it until the end.
Dalv didn't know the child he has befriended will be gone just like another. Does he wish he could have protected them? Just like he did for her, or would that hurt him more? Does he hold his friends a little closer, does he worry they leave just like Clover?(Does he ever wonder if they would have liked Kanako, or the organ concerts he plays now)
Does Martlet ever look at her old puzzles and think about how Clover was so smart to solve them even with their messed up calibrations? Does she start a project and think of them, could they have been her roommate, a happy little kid that can make little wooden blocks with her?(Just like Chujin had). She didn't know that her little Clover was someone who would vanish like a molten rock, like feathers when she's in a rush.(The only time they had smiled was when she gave them a fist bump.)
Starlo gave a little badge, one to never be worn, one that is just as cold as the body it was given to. Did he consider Clover his lucky charm? Does he wear his hat a little lower when he is North Star? Does he do a double take looking at brown cowboy hats, thinking they're right there? Does Starlo pose and then wait for a second, as if someone was following his footsteps for a brief moment? He never knew that he had one moment to hold that kid, Only one moment before the kid become cold.(Does he wonder what the town would be like with them around?)
Ceroba is a tragedy, like lemmings to a cliff, she holds a tragedy's body, whether it be an arm, the body, the body again. All she holds are tragedies. Does she enter her house looking for them, some sign they had lived there before?(Does she see Chujin and Kanako sleeping in her the bed? Clover at the kotatsu messing with the bottom left corner?). Is the mask she has a reminder of them? Is her hand cold from where Clover touched it when she was upset? She didn't know the exact ending Clover got, she didn't think about the attachment, maybe she didn't want to. Maybe the one thing she thinks about, is how she met the luckiest Clover.(She thinks about Kanako just as much, most likely more than she does Clover, maybe she and Dalv think about how she would've loved to meet Clover.)
Axis has seen the end of a human before, an accident, something he was programmed to do. He can't cry or grieve, he may not think about Clover, he has a spouse after all! Who am I kidding. Axis must water the plants in the greenhouse, thinking about that hatted human, the one who won't come back, the one who cared(just like Chujin). Does he repair himself and think of Clover patching themselves up? Does he look at a trashcan lid and think of Clover? Of course he knew the ending humans will face, this wasn't the first time. But he didn't know he would befriend the human, that the human was nice to him. (Does Daisy remind him of Clover? They helped bringing her to him.)
Even thinking about those who aren't main cast:
Does Decibat think about the honorary sentinel of silence that was gone so quickly? Does he sleep thinking about that quiet child who stayed quiet with him for a brief moment?
Does Mo think about how his debt was paid off with the help of a dead kid? Does he continue his business wondering if that kid would be happy to seem him now?
Does El Bailador dance a little quieter to honor this small child he met for a few minutes? Does he wait a moment before continue his dancing, as if there was someone following his movement?
Do the feisty four look at an empty couch and think of Clover sleeping there right with Starlo?(Moray said that Star would have to share, no one would resist the chance to cuddle a sweet soul.) Do they all think about the little deputy who appeared and left so soon?
Does Ed pick up someone and think about how he held Clover a few times before they were gone?(He was never gentle with those hands until after they left) Does Moray practice a song when and think about how Clover never saw them perform?(Would they make a song named after them?)
Does Ace wish he had said he cared for Clover when they got their new(as new as it would be) hat?(He still reminds everyone to take care of their outfits and gear, it keeps him close to Clover). Does Mooch hold the one coin she got from Clover close to her?(The coin is dull in color at this point, she keeps it in her bed for safe keeping)
Does Guardener hibernate thinking about a hatted child who refuses to hurt in her during a scuffed protocol? Does she sleep thinking about how they tried their best not to harm her plants?
They must have mourned a child who was barely there, they came and went. A tragedy for a child who was going to die in the end, the ending we knew but they didn't.
Do you think it hurt? Do you think hurt them to hold the hand of a child whose hand was already cold? To hug them, to give items, to battle? Did they feel cold?
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I feel bad for Starlo. (pt. 9)
Star's the Papyrus (both are idealistic & seen as naive) of this game (Martlet is another possible parallel), even though he's got similarities with Undyne too. No matter how broken Ceroba seemed he asked himself WHY she did what she did and I think that's SUPER important.
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Ceroba didn't do this. Her first instinct was to be harsh (after being harsh with him even BEFORE he attacked Clover):
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called his personality "damaged" before this scene
... you never asked yourself WHY he did the whole sheriff act.
.... you never asked WHY he didn't want to grow up. If it was a coping mechanism, if he wanted to help his community in a way he couldn't as a farmer? It was never on her mind.
Yes he has baggage but he's dealing with it all while uplifting others, Ceroba has baggage but is well taken care of by Star and at least has him, he has no one but himself and his optimism to pull him out of negative feelings, and still gets insulted.
Yeah Ceroba's been through stuff but apparently it's been some time since Chujin passed and Kanako fell down, she should have at least started to support Star emotionally like he's been supporting her (sure, he did so with distractions, but as he said "aren't distractions what's best for all of that?" He did his best). Problem is she DIDN'T realise he was ever struggling with self worth and only assumed he was goofing off. Either that or she did nothing about it aka was too occupied with her own problems (which are valid but still... she should have tried at least a little) Cer's character flaw is being too stubborn and devoted to Chujin. She trusted him blindly and wholeheartedly. Everything else came in 2nd place. This is clear as day.
It hurts knowing Ceroba could never respect Starlo the way she still does her husband. Not saying she shouldn't admire Chujin, but the way she sees Star as a goofy manchild whose lifelong passion can go "too far," the way she sees all this Wild East stuff as him "just having fun," the way she thinks that only someone whose brain isn't developed would ever consider dating him just... ticks me off, tbh. That's why I think the guy needs someone who will be gentle and patient with him, even if that other person is going through tough times.
She DID call Starlo the best sheriff she's ever known (honestly the only sweet moment between them in pacifist, but it is very brief, especially in neutral where he just gets cut off; also I hope she was being genuine here) and said how everyone adored him (but hated his persona, which I've already covered: basically they either hated 'North Star' as a whole, which I hope isn't true, or just how excited he was to meet Clover, which makes no sense to me; already covered it as well)
Bonus: Dina didn't know who Star really was or what he looked like, not before the end credits rolled (when he shows up as himself & she's also seen there; makes sense that he finally came clean to her):
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So he's literally been playing this role 24/7, ever since she became the bartender; ever since this town started to exist. It's impressive how he could keep up an act AND use this fake accent for so long
Bonus #2: Star was SUPER worried about Clover's safety; that's what REALLY upset him (he cares about that child sm). THAT's what drove him off the edge (unless he naturally has a temper, i don't think this is it tho). Either way, he was way more patient w Ceroba than I think most would have been in that situation. Sure he snapped a few times, but there was a good reason to. He still TRIED to reason with her. Why did he attack? Worried for Martlet & Clover. I honestly think Star's the type to only get super angry if someone he loves is in danger (minus the stuff that happened which led him to cracking)
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ohthethingswedoforlove · 3 months ago
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Yandere!Starlo headcanons
I've been playing Undertale Yellow and of course I had to write for Starlo, with an introduction and boss fight like that, how could I not?
Warnings: yandere character; vague descriptions of violence; imprisonment; some spoilers for the game;
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Starlo
💛 Starlo, or North Star as he has taken a liking to call himself, has always been one for fixations.
💛 And you being a human who just so happened to have the unfortunate mistep of falling into the Underground fits oh so neatly into his acquired fascinations.
💛 Imagine you're a human who managed to venture through the Underground until you stumbled upon the Wild East before Clover even had a chance to.
💛 You're the first human, the first real human Star has ever laid eyes on. And how exciting that is!
💛 He just has to take you along! He's seen so much about your kind and he just yearns to mimic a part of it; and besides, imagine his posse, the Feisty Five, now with a human member!
💛 You barely have time to question what he means by that before you're being taken by his gang and brought to his town. 
💛 And if you somehow manage to break yourself out of the grasp of Ed or any of the other members, Star is pretty quick with his lasso. Don't worry! He doesn't want to hurt you! You just have to come with him them! You have to.
💛 He wants you as part of the team, immediately parading you around for the town's residents, delighted at his newest find. You're going to fit in just fine, partner! He's sure of it.
💛 But you can't leave.
💛 Try as you might to ask around, everyone seems to have a soft spot for Star and think of his antics as mostly harmless. They all share the sentiment that you could just stick around for a bit.
💛 They've never seen him so enthusiastic, so lively before. Maybe you could humor him? Just for a little while! It's the equivalent to playing cowboys for a few days, and where's the harm in that?
💛 Besides, this little town is just so welcoming and friendly. How can you not want to stop and stay a while?
💛 Nevermind that all possible exits seem to be closed off. Or even just straight up locked with a very clear intent.
💛 None of the other residents are as enthusiastic about your stay here. They're very nice to you and happy to see a new face, granted, but you can tell that some of them in particular are internally debating whether or not Star should be doing this. It's all in good fun... And it's not like he's actually trapping you here, right? You'll leave eventually, should you choose to.
💛 Oh, how wrong they'll grow to be.
💛 Star will drag you to "training" as soon as he can, hoping to get you started with a spot on his posse immediately. He has an eye for talent, so surely it'll be no wonder when you start showing sharpshooting skills just as impressive as his!
💛 Nevermind the fact you never held a gun with the intent to shoot in your life.
💛 Training goes over a bit awkwardly, with you clearly not being cut out to be a gunslinger and him being stubborn and convinced that you're made for this. Made to join them. Made to join him.
💛 It takes quite a bit of accidents and a lot of convincing from the other members for him to start accepting that maybe giving you a six-shooter and forcing you to answer to moral problems isn't exactly gonna work out.
💛 But he doesn't give up. 
💛 Sure, you're not officially part of the gang, but that doesn't stop him from dragging you around with him everywhere.
💛 Literally.
💛 Most of the time he guides you around by the hand or, during the moments where you are "refusing to cooperate for no reason", he straight up lassos you and then drags you around.
💛 He laughs it up and tries to play it off like it’s not a big deal. He's not trying to harm you in any way, he just wants to show you around! Show you to his town, show you how fun this life is.
💛 He dresses you up for the role too, insisting in giving you old hats he no longer uses and clothes that would fit the costuming of an old western movie, all things he handmade himself. He just wants you to look the part. And he also thinks you look really cool like that!
💛 You're always there during the gang's meetings, whether you asked to be there or not, and of course you have to participate in the group naps afterwards. 
💛 Star lets you take his spot on the old couch the first few times, but then he starts insisting that you two should share. He does take no for an answer, at least, a bit sad but not wanting to make you uncomfortable. Still doesn't really stop him from sleeping on the ground right in front of the couch. 
💛 Makes it easier to catch you when you're trying to run away leave mid nap, for some reason. You're supposed to rest up before the next mission, you know? He's just trying to help you care for yourself.
💛 When he's not busy playing the role of the town sheriff or hanging out with his posse, while dragging you along of course, he tries to get you to talk about yourself and your life on the Surface.
💛 Star absolutely adores hearing more about you, and gets super into trying to involve your experiences, preferences and stories into the whole old wild west town he has going on. Anything you tell him he absorbs, and then he tries to give you gifts that match or recreate things you've enjoyed to the best of his ability.
💛 Of course, he also goes to show off his brand new knowledge on humans and their lives to anyone in the saloon who's around to listen, all direct from a reliable and wonderful source!
💛 But all of this very obviously obsessive behaviour can only go on for so long before the members of his gang or even Ceroba start to point out how... Weird he's been acting ever since he found you.
💛 He tries to dismiss them. He just cares about you! You're special and he has taken a really strong liking to you. You're like… His partner. Yeah.
💛 So why does he keep you so confined? Well, you're human! Any other monster outside this town finds you and you'll very likely get captured and sent to king Asgore, who will kill you and add your SOUL to the amount needed to break the barrier.
💛 That is if you aren't hurt or killed by an aggressive monster before that even gets to happen.
💛 The others can't really argue about that, much to their frustration, but still point out that he's being overbearing and overprotective.
💛 He ignores them for the most part. Or plays it off, as he usually does. C'mon, the town has been so much more lively since you got here! Why think about all that depressing stuff when we could be having fun and distracting ourselves?
💛 Still, part of him knows it's wrong to keep you here.
💛 Especially when you come to him asking when you can leave. Reminding him that if you managed to get all the way out from the Ruins up until this town, it means that you can handle yourself despite not really being a fighter. And you want to go home.
💛 He feels his heart twist everytime you say that. Home. The guilt instills itself, but it doesn't stop him.
💛 Because... This is your home now, right?
💛 It's selfish, yes, but he doesn't want you to leave. He's grown attached. And he's also grown terrified you're going to end up hurt, or much, much worse. 
💛 Thinking about you being gone from his sight makes his hand shake over the holster of his gun.
💛 So you can't leave.
💛 The town is locked up and you're both figuratively and literally tied to him most of the time, anyway.
💛 You're staying.
💛 You're part of his gang, after all. You're supposed to stick together, through thick and thin.
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petra-creat0r · 6 months ago
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Deltarune: Fool's Fate Ch. 3 Secret Boss
It's everybody's favorite kitty cowboy, Bandit Casper! This secret boss was actually made by a friend of mine, @mrchaosman and gifted to me as he saw that originally for my Chapter 3 prediction, I had wanted to do something based of off the Woody Theory but abandoned cartoon won the poll I put out which is how we eventually got Bitsy.
While I love Bitsy, as soon as I saw Casper I fell in love with him immediately! He's just a silly lil cowboy cat! Look at him! The silly! My feelings for him are pretty much exactly the meme of "I've only had Bandit Casper for a few days but if anything happened to him I'd kill everyone in this room and then myself." The backstory Mr. Chaosman made for him was also rather funny in my opinion, and though I changed it ever so slightly to match Fool's Fate chapter 3 rather than Deltarune chapter 3, you can still check it out here.
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Since Casper wasn't named by me, I don't know his specific name origin, but Chaos did mention Casper's based on Starlo/North Star from Undertale Yellow. I searched up the meaning of the name Casper, and apart from being the name of Casper the Friendly Ghost (oh boy, that brings me back), it also means Treasurer or Treasure-Bearer, which I find fun since I definitely treasure Casper.
Edit: I asked Mr. Chaosman about the name, and he didn't have any particular reason for choosing it, it just sounded cool.
Though his text quirk was something Chaosman came up with, I decided the soul mode Casper uses is the green soul mode. Partially because I have my own order the Fool's Fate sb soul modes will go in that I'm not telling anyone, but also because it was the soul mode I wanted to win along with the Wood Theory to fit Undyne stuff. Instead I got the purple soul mode which is how I decided to make Bitsy a spider.
Anyways, like I said, I love Casper. I want to make a plush of him like I made Dorothy into an actual doll. Originally Chaosman made Casper's Light World equivalent a tape from his show, but I decided to make him into plushie with a maraca sewn in to better represent Casper's "friend", Rattler. I had a maraca egg pipis. I can make this real.
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Casper the Kid was the beloved mascot and face of an old anti-bullying campaign, complete with PSA cartoons where he'd bring any bullying varmints to justice, posters with slogans like "See someone being a bully? Report it to your local sheriff! (Or a trusted adult)" or "Don't be a bullying bandit, be a friend instead!", and even a plushie which may or may not been unofficial and made by some students.
In the Dark World, Casper was just as beloved as in the Light World, being seen as a sort of protector and defender of sorta where ever he went. From the grassy purple fields and blocky town of Playmat Plains where he was a town sheriff, to the Field of Hopes and Dreams or the Scarlett Forest where he was more of a vigilante, evading capture from the 4 kings.
Eventually though, kids grew up, posters got taken down, worlds changed around and grew divided, and Casper started to become less popular. Eventually the series of cartoons the friendly cat cowboy stared in stopped being made all together. Even still, Casper still tried to do his best to spread kindness and stop bullying. Though his cartoons were still being shown and he was still trying to bring bullying bandits to justice... It seemed more and more that people just stopped caring. Even if Casper tried to stop people from being mean, they didn't seem to respect his authority at all and whatever Casper did didn't even seem to make a difference.
That's when Casper came across a man. A strange someone who offered Casper a helping hand in his darkest hour. The man revealed to Casper the truth about this world and his existence, giving him a shadowy crystal that let him see his world changing before his very eyes. The man also gave Casper a mysterious egg. Saying that if the kitty cowboy ate it, he would gain a forever friend who could help him with his goal of helping others. The egg made a strange rattling noise, similar to a rattle snake. Even still, Casper still ate the egg and accepted the man's help.
Soon after that, Playmat Plains was in danger of being bought out by some powerful tycoon sent by the new ruler of this world, the Hierophant. Even if most of the inhabitants of the town no longer considered Casper their sheriff, he still felt a duty to protect the little town from some greedy tycoon who just wanted to hurt it. Casper challenged the tycoon to a duel. Who ever won could have the city. The tycoon, intrigued by the moxie of this little kitty, agreed.
What happened next, Casper didn't quite remember. All he remembers was his body shaking and hearing rattling before everything went black and he found himself on the outskirts of town when he woke up. Eventually after stumbling back into town, he found a wanted poster. But not one of a bullying bandit like usual. This time, it was a was a wanted poster of him. With the name "Bandit Casper" and a rather mighty reward.
Casper was confused. He was supposed to be the hero. Why was he all of a sudden one of the bullies he'd sworn to stop? Why was he the "bad guy"?
... What happened during that duel?
As it turned out, the egg Casper ate was actually a parasitic snake creature. Otherwise known as Casper's new "friend", Rattler, who had taken over during the duel and wrecked havoc on the town. Making everyone no longer see Casper as a friendly kitty hero, but something even worse than a bully. A dangerous menace who had to be stopped.
The Hierophant made sure to discard the rest of Casper's cartoons and the cowboy was declared an outlaw. Since then, Casper's been on the run and living out in the Checkered Desert. Still trying hist best to help anyone who crossed his path.
That was until he crossed paths with a group of Lightner children...
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Okay it took me a bit to rewrite Casper's backstory to fit Fool's Fate's classroom based Dark World, but I think I got it down! I imagine Casper jumping from world to world was mostly a result of the toy Casper is in the Light World and his cartoons being swapped back and forth between Toriel and Gerson before Gerson passed and his classroom was abandoned and the Casper the Kid stuff was relegated to Tori's classroom before eventually Noelle moved into that room after growing up and becoming a teacher.
Confusing, I know, but I understand it and that's all that matters, shush.
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retrogamingtrickster · 5 months ago
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Initial First Impressions! (Feisty Five Edition!!)
Starlo
I mean…do I need to say it?? His design first of all, is GENIUS (I thought it was REALLY funny to have a sheriff with a star for a head, then being called North Star—it’s amazing XD). His battle theme is a banger, and from what I HAVE seen of him in the initial game?? I can tell he’s gonna be an awesome character!! XD
Mooch
Gremlin energy. Loveable, hyperactive, gremlin energy. And I LIVE for it!!! She’s literally just an adorably chaotic bean that’s so huggable!!
Morvay
Oh…my god. Like from the groups intro at first I thought it said they represented Elegance (later found out after reading it again it was Excellence). LOVE their design, like..a lot!!
Ed
Out of the group I’m pretty sure there isn’t much for me to say about him (Not yet anyway). I HAVE seen how he looks for his boss fight though, and I gotta say? I’m pretty excited to see where his boss fight would go!!
Ace
I—…Okay. It’s funny to me that Ace appears the most serious, yet he covers himself up to where you can only see his eyes. And honestly??? He gives me the vibe that he WANTS to be in the group..yet he’s too embarrassed to show his real face around town so he covers it up—. VERY excited to see his boss fight!!! :0
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stuffyflowers · 29 days ago
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I'm so late with this that there's no way its gonna sway the votes but heres my "Starlo is kindness NOT JUSTICE" rant. Disclaimer that obviously deciding what soul trait a character aligns with most is not the most serious thing in the world. They overlap a lot bla bla bla but sorry I just do not think he is justice. At all. I am passionate abt this one in particular so read my paragraphs boy
I feel like the reason justice is winning to the degree it is comes from his entire aesthetic: He's a cowboy, much like Clover who is THE justice character. Not only that, but he's specifically the sheriff! A man of the law! He also pays a lot of lip service to the concept, to the point I think he's the first one in the game to say the word.
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... But to me, thats what it is. Lip service. If you actually look at Starlos actions as North Star, though, they really don’t reflect this concept… at all (quite fitting considering the J in the Feisty Five is "silent.") He ironically restrains Clovers (and martlets) freedom while trying to celebrate it, he uses them as a scapegoat to avoid having to unpack his own unjust actions and tries to kill them in hopes it will save his own reputation (and he can succeed in this!!! I know he hesitates and feels guilty but he very much can kill clover even if they have done nothing wrong!!!! This isn’t a papyrus or susie situation!!!!)
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Theres also the case of him being unable to bring himself to actually shoot clover in the vengeance route. I have seen a lot of criticism towards this moment for being 'ooc' but it makes perfect sense to me: Starlo being a sheriff is for the aesthetics, not the literal role. Its roleplay. He wasn't ever prepared to actually deal with a legitimate threat like Clover is in this route. He instead passes the duty of "delivering justice" onto Ceroba.
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And probably my favourite example is when he directly denounces the law if Ceroba is killed in flawed pacifist. Keep in mind, Martlet and Starlo arent working with the full picture here. The last thing they can remember is being knocked unconscious by Ceroba after she openly announces her intentions to kill Clover for their soul. Martlet understandably assumes Clover had a reason for killing her. Did Ceroba even give them a choice? It was very likely self-defence. She doesn't think killing her was the best outcome, but she can't change what happened. All she can do is try to assess the situation and understand why Clover may have made that decision.
Starlo on the other hand is driven purely by his emotions and goes as far as wishing he'd shot Clover back when he fought them as if Ceroba wasn't the one who was threatening their life just minutes ago. I'm not saying he shouldn't be upset or angry, Ceroba was his best friend, but if he was as strongly connected to justice and the law as you'd expect him to be, you'd think he'd be able to be a bit more impartial here. Instead, he abandons "the law" he supposedly values so much completely for her sake.
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So, the point of Starlo’s sheriff character isn’t to deliver justice, not really. So, why does he play this part? The answer lies within his pre-battle monologue:
"Why did this happen? I did everything in my power to entertain... So monsters wouldn't have to worry about being stuck down here."
Above all else, Starlo's goal is to spread joy to the underground. He wants to share the comfort which Westerns brought to him with others. The Wild East as a whole was built on this idea, using entertainment as a way to distract monsters from their bleak situation. In many ways, his goal succeeded. The Wild East is bustling with monsters enjoying its spectacle (at least, until the Five split). It gave monsters like Blackjack and Dina a place to work and share their professions. Whether it was intentional or not, the success of his town also saved his family's business during drought.
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I think his kindness is most on display in his relationship with Ceroba. He gives her a place to stay during her absolute lowest point. Ceroba's talk dialogue in the Steamworks implies he gave her the nice memory foam bed, showing his generosity. Going overboard with his persona was likely a direct result of him trying his hardest to distract her in particular ("At every turn I tried to cheer Ceroba up... I just wanted Kanako off of her mind... Aren't distractions what's best for that?"), which can be seen in him showing off Clover's 'newfound' sharpshooting abilities and involving her in Clover's final mission. As mentioned above, he is willing to abandon the idea of "justice" altogether for her if she is killed, even though her actions were morally reprehensible to say the least. If she is spared in Pacifist, he is the one who lifts her up, showing her kindness when she believes she is unworthy of any.
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Going back to his brief appearance in the vengeance route, his role as an entertainer is once again used to show his care for those around him. Sure, he wasn't able to stop Clover, but serving as a distraction, what he does best, was likely the reason all the Wild East residents were able to get to safety. At least that's how I've always interpreted it, esp considering these lines from Dina.
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Starlo being kindness also strengthens his parallels with Chujin, another character with this trait emphasised throughout the game. Of course, they're both very flawed people, they both have issues with their egos and have the capacity for highly selfish and reckless acts. But that doesn't change the fact that at their core, they're both driven by their compassion, particularly towards those they are close to. I think the reason Chujin, to me personally, is sliiiiightly more justice-aligned than kindness, is that it is what he ultimately ended up prioritising in his final years. His lifelong obsession with justice, combined with his belief that specifically his research could correct an ongoing injustice "once and for all," is the catalyst for much of UTY's plot, particularly Ceroba's inability to let go of the past because he placed the unmanageable weight of continuing his work upon her. Starlo on the other hand gets to fully embrace his best quality, kindness, in the true pacifist ending. Being true to who he really is, as Ceroba points out to him after his fight with Clover. Someone who is SOOOOOO KIND!!!!!!!! VOTE KINDNESS NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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WHAT UNDERTALE HUMAN SOUL WOULD THEY HAVE?
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frozenhi-chews · 2 months ago
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How come no one talks about this? How come I don't see any like, discussion or art about this? It's both hilarious and oh my gosh Starlo what-?
STARLO DRANK MAGMA. Yes, to impress Ceroba, but holy cow he drank magma! Like was he okay afterward? Was he able to take it easy or did it burn him? Also because this was likely before Chujin, and the lack of the sheriff pseudo name, I have a feeling he was his nerdy farmer self. Like THAT'S an image, that's cool!
This guy drank magma only to impress the girl he liked, oh my gosh!! (That also kinda leans into the whole thing where Starlo wants to impress people and be seen as a cool guy. One of the reasons he's so in deep with the North Star persona. I have a lot of thoughts about this man)
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Let's talk about genocide Starlo
... because on one hand, I understand where the devs were coming from. They wanted to highlight that Star was not the cool, badass sheriff he'd love to be. Some pointed out how, realistically, he couldn't have defeated Clover and especially delivered the final blow (he does it in pacifist/neutral bc hes in the worst possible headspace). Star is a big softie and a "naive fool," lets be real. But still, there is one more thing that he is: caring.
He cares about the town, toursits, especially his friends. It's been shown over and over and OVER again. And i'm sure as hell disappointed he didn't bring a real gun. Yeah, he was always aware this was all play pretend, but just for a few minutes, this man should have tried to be the sheriff he never got the chance to be before.
For the sake of everyone. For the sake of justice.
I'm not even asking for an epic battle. I'm asking for a battle that wouldn't even be close to Undyne's in UT's geno. But it would be Starlo's battle. A battle he was robbed of for the sake of Ceroba getting the spotlight.. for the 2nd time. Because this dude is clearly seen as a joke by the devs. I'll ask:
Why ceroba AGAIN? she shone in pacifist, while Star was always more of a comic relief and its depressing. Especially since the genocide route ties too well with a twisted image of justice. Star values it as much as Clover, but here he could have been the hero of justice. I just have to say....
STARLO IS THE ONLY ONE OF THE MAIN CHARACTERS WHO DOESN'T EVEN HAVE BATTLE MODE IN GENOCIDE WE WERE ROBBED HES LITERALLY THE EQUIVALENT TO MONSTER KID OR METTATON NEO i'm not sure BUT EVEN MK GOT A BATTLE MODE. METTATON NEO ALSO GOT A BATTLE MODE. EVERYONE GOT A BATTLE MODE EXCEPT STARLO
He should have said... "I may not be a real sheriff by title, but my soul will deliver justice!" Or smth Then just like during the Asgore fight, he'd almost be dead, ceroba arrives, tries to protect star, gets shot by Clover, they say goodbye to each other, then, before he is about to get shot too starlo says smth like genocide undyne and that's how he goes out.
Even better, he, without thinking, throws his hat on the ground (bc he metaphorically no longer wants to admire or associate himself with humans, ever again), seeing his bff die in front of him and goes either: "I don't care if you make fun. This isn't about being cool anymore. This is about my town, my friends. This is about JUSTICE." or "No... I won't fight you/deliver justice as North Star." *pause* "I'll do it as Starlo." and the dork then just stares at clover (There'd be a "laugh" option if Clover decides to act because, well, they see him for the nerd he is) but he's DETERMINED and at this point it doesn't even matter if he's not skilled, he'd do something he hadn't done in years just for the sake of saving his remaining friends, family, and other potential victims: Starlo would fight AS HIMSELF.
But maybe he wouldn't even fight after he takes his hat off. maybe he'd try to explain to Clover violence isn't the answer like Martlet, because that's something the real him would do. He'd drop the hat, drop the gun, drop the belief that he's a badass, and instead accept that he was, and always will be, a big ol' softie. And there's nothing wrong with that.
Point is, would he actually kill clover? hell no. That would be ooc (now that I think about it, why wouldn't he, when he is able to do it in other 2 routes? And he COULD have done it in flawed pacifist? His whole world and identity crashing down and losing all his friends is terrible, losing his bff to a human he trusted and to whom he gave a gun is also terrible, but so is letting a genocidal maniac continue killing)
But he'd die knowing two things:
1)he had tried to be a real, dignified sheriff, and failed (bc he died, not bc he didn't try. In canon, he doesn't even try and THAT'S SO UNLIKE HIM especially considering the situation)
2)in his final moments, he finally became himself again
and that.. that would have been so much more satisfying than what we got.
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frozenhi-chews · 2 months ago
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HI HI MOOTSIE PATOOTSIE plz take this ask as a chance to gush about starlo if you want to :33
AAAAUGHH. STARLO. THE 'LO. OUGHH you are opening a very dangerous can of worms my dear friend! Nonetheless, THEY SHALL CRAWL! (Also this contains spoilers for UTY cuz I. Went nuts. About his character)
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GOSH THIS MAN. THIS MAN. IVE BEEN CHEWING ON FIBER OPTIC CABLES CUZ OF HIM
I love him so much. And he seems like a silly guy, especially at first. Goofy cowboy, beloved by all. Seems he got it in the bag huh?
BUT NO HE'S ACTUALLY PRETTY TRAGIC. He actually hates himself (heck when he takes off his hat, he says that Clover could laugh at him. Like GOSH dude.) He has buried himself in the North Star persona that people don't realize he's a "nobody farmer" as he calls himself. He wants to distract others from their plight of being underground. He wants to help Ceroba. He wants to be seen as more. He wants to impress people. He paces around every night muttering to himself about...something. Whether it's Kanako or the town or himself or his family or something else or a mix of all of that.
Like gaahhhh. He really does hate himself. So much so he'll fake his smile so that others can still be happy. So much he'd rather be known as North Star rather than Starlo. Cuz Starlo is a nerd. He's a loser. He's a nobody farmer from a nowhere farm that sells corn. He is NOT OKAY.
And I don't think that Ceroba marrying Chujin helped either. OH RIGHT. HE HAD A CRUSH ON CEROBA!! His childhood best friend. He crushed on her for YEARS, until Ceroba got engaged to someone else. I don't think that helped either. Chujin and Starlo DID NOT like each other for a plethora of reasons, and I do believe one of them is jealousy on his end and the fact that he wasn't good enough for his best friend. (There's other reasons but ough.) Even though he had to get over his crush, I don't think it helped.
AND HE WAS STILL A GOOD FRIEND TO CEROBA. When her husband died, he didn't make any moves on her. (Platonic soulmates babeeyyyy!!)
O yeah and there's a thing going on where he locked his family out of the Wild East but it's like, a five minute walk away. He feels he can't be good enough for his family either. He left the farm to play cowboys (even tho his dad feels he wanted to help the farm, and I believe that), locking them out, not talking to them for a long time, possibly years. (I have a headcanon that his brother resents him a bit for leaving the farm and is jealous of the popularity that starlo has, while he's stuck at the farm.)
He couldn't be that far away from them, despite not talking to them and keeping them away. He can't be that far from his friends and family. He is trying so hard GOSH-
And to run a town like that for years, putting on a smile and act, being seen as how he wants to be seen rather than who he is, that's gotta be TIRING. Idk if he's just exhausted after all that. He's gotta be. No real safe place except himself
Gooooooshhhhh he makes me insane. I love him. I love him so much. Hhhhhaaaahhahahahahagaaaaaaaaa
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chromatasia · 10 months ago
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teehee. here’s a little thing i decided to write for at least Some Context
* It’s Starlo’s journal. It’s filled with doodles and daily schedules, but there’s one page with a dogear at the corner of it.
* Read it?
Yes 💛 No
August 32 September 1, 20XX
Sorry, future me, if this is hard to read. I’m writing this in the dark, since Orion’s gone to sleep and my light can only do so much. But… I just wanted to get my thoughts down. About today.
It was a relatively normal day, which is the strangest part. I helped out with the corn stand in town for most of the day (got to see Ceroba) so I wasn’t at the farm too much. When I got back, it was nearly sunset. Dad had asked me to check the perimeter of the farm, because apparently there were some sightings of animals or something wandering around the town. He doesn’t want a single stalk of the harvest to be lost, what with the drying land and all.
So, I did. I walked around the edges of the cornfields, looking out for any animals. I shucked a few stalks along the way. You know how it is: there’s less attention to detail the further you get from Dad’s watchful eye.
Then… I saw them. There’s that little patch of forest near the edge of the north-most field, where Dad put up that tire swing for Orion and I when we were young. Leaning against the tree was a child. A human child. Even from the distance I stood from them, I could tell they were shaking. I stepped on a loose corn stalk, and their head shot up.
Their eyes were the sharpest yellow I had ever seen in my life. It was… frightening, honestly. Reminded me of a prey animal, if that makes sense. What’s it called, fight or flight?
I didn’t move for a few seconds, and slowly raised my hands. I called out to them, asking if they were lost. No human had ever lived in the area, at least not that I knew of.
They didn’t respond, only continued to stare at me with those piercing eyes. I asked if I could come closer. After a few moments, they let me. I kept my hands up as I slowly approached; didn’t want them bolting, or anything. They seemed about ready to do so.
Once I was close enough, I could actually get a look at the kid. They looked roughed up, to say the least: their hair was a mess, their clothes looked worn, and the hat their held in their hands looked torn. It was worryingly, to say the least.
I asked if they needed help. Their eyes widened at that. Then, they spoke their first words during the whole interaction.
“Are you real?” That only made me worry more! What did they mean, ‘was I real?’ I hadn’t even met the kid before! But, I told them yes, I was, and asked again if they needed help.
They looked at me in shock for a few seconds, before suddenly rushing up to me and hugging me. Their grip was surprisingly strong, considering their state. I could feel them sobbing, the poor thing. I brought my arms around them slowly and rubbed their head, like what Ma would do when Orion and I would argue when we were kids.
They pulled away after a couple of minutes, took a deep breath, and told me “Thank you, Star.” Then, they passed out.
I ran back with them to the farm, and Ma and Dad were able to check them out. They said they didn’t appear to be injured physically, but even when they were passed out they were still shaking. Dad said he could go to the library in the morning to check out anything about humans, and Ma said she’d watch over them.
It’s been a couple of hours since then. I haven’t been able to sleep. I just… can’t shake off what the kid said to me. What happened to them?
…How did they know my name?
Well, that’s enough from me. Hopefully future Starlo has the answers to that hefty question.
* …
* You close the journal. There’s some questions you don’t want to answer.
* There’s some questions you don’t even have the answer to.
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WEEEEE CLOVER IS GETTING AN EDUCATION!!!! ignore the horrors :) there are no horrors occurring for them :)
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earlyzakariya · 7 months ago
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Yeah yeah you're good, everyone is entitled to their own opinion but I will say, I do think yours is quite flawed (not trying to hate on you, just stating a fact)
She idolises Chujin because he is, 1. Her literal husband, 2. Dead
When your husband is dead your internal bias will not be looking towards their flaws, especially because the aspects of you that are greivijg don't want to paint them as a bad person
I've seen relationships like Crroba and Starlos, and I do think the friendship they have makes sense, I think we only see the depth of their friendship in flawed pacifist/genocide as well, North Star is a persona, who is who we are with during majority of the wild east segments. They both get extremely defensive if you kill the other in geno/flawpaci, showing that beyond the playful banter, they can be serious
Starlo is currently living, which does make him easier to criticise as a person. Also Ceroba is currently grieving, for her to be seemingly distant and treating people differently does make sense
I'm not trying to tell you to change your opinion or anything I just wanted to make sure you knew some of the more conceptual flaws
The way she treats starlo vs chujin does vary alot, part of it is to show her characters depth and how she adores Chujin and wants to follow him blindly, and destroying her life trying to follow his plan, her arc is about moving on from her grief (shown theough her giving up on the super soldier plan)
I don’t really like Ceroba. (Pt 1)
Don’t get me wrong, I love her design and her as a character but the way she treats Starlo/North star and how she idolizes Chujin rubs me the wrong way.
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for some reason she treats Starlo as a little kid, even though they’re best friends?? She mentions that she considered dating Starlo instead of Chujin but chalks it up as her being young and naive, saying that her brain was still developing; implying that she thinks that someone would have to be childish to like Starlo.
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She says she envies Starlo’s “optimism” but says it more as an adult envying a child’s naivety. Saying that he “clearly chose the better path”
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“I wanted to grow up and.. Star wouldn’t follow.” kinda messed up, ceroba
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frozenhi-chews · 2 months ago
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No im not over this
#WHY DO YOU HURT ME SO. WHY ARE YOU SO TRAGIC #hehe cowboy mans does a little show to make his friend happy ['*GETS HIT WITH ANGST] #YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO BE SO. SO. YOU ARE SO. #;A; #he hates himself. he fakes his smile so others can be happy. he wants to impress and entertain people. he wants to give others a slice of- #-the surface #he wants to be seen as North Star and not Starlo. he wants to BE someone so he went out and became someone #but in doing so lost the innocent farmer he was #he loves westerns. he adores his friends #he locked his family out of his town but cant be more than five minutes away #STARLO. STARLO WHAT THE HECK #IM GONNA SOB #GOSH. MAN. GOSH
#spoilers for UTY obviously #but this is after his posse broke up and disbanded #lowest he's been since probably ceroba married someone else #SEE WHAT I MEAN FROM PREV TAGS?@ #HE WANTS TO MAKE OTHERS SMILE BUT TO IMPRESS THEM TOO #North Star is who he WANTS to be. who he feels he SHOULD be #he went out and became the cowboy he wanted to be and lost himself #HE JUST. AAAUGHH #HE STILL WANTS CLOVER TO BE HIS FRIEND #LIKE. GAHHH. #SOBS
#HE THINKS CLOVER WAS GONNA LAUGH WHEN HE TOOK THE HAT OFF #HE JUST WANTS TO BE FREAKING LOVED. HE JUST WANTS TO MAKE OTHERS HAPPY #CAN YOU SEE WHAT IM TALKOMG ABOUT #I AM NOT OKAY #I AM SO NOT OKAY #CRIES
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My current mental state rn
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