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this. makes me go fucking insane. continuing
im still going fucking insane about my last tags
there's NO possible way of victim not seeing something that was streamed on alans channel and respectively streamed in the outernet. its canon that avm original was streamed there. even if it wasnt every episode of avam it is still there. victim lives there and knows what outernet has (and most likely knows about oranges and cg existence. not their powers but existence from at least an avm original episode)
and given that vic learned about chosen and that he was wanted. that victim KNEW about their existence and chased after them. that he had seen something that made him realize that chosen inherently had ties with alan??
one of my thoughts is that only specific stuff is accessible to outernet in canon. maybe not even the whole content of vids. (though the avm original was sixteen minutes and in "the king" it is seen that the video streamed is also sixteen minutes) which could explain how victim only knew a small bit of stuff and didnt just see the a bit of a whole thirty minute willingly and went "well thats all i gotta know about it".
its likely victim accessed chosen(and possibly dark) videos streamed and connected the dots by recognizing alan, similar methods of torturing chosen and the interface of alans pc.
(since its canon victims torture is on youtube and possibly chosens its kinda fucked if they accessed it as well. which perhaps made them even more vengeful)
thought. was showdown something that was streamed or something that was uploaded on youtube? at least the beginning of it?? and victim knew only bits of it???. it could be possible that victim knew about chosen&dark place of living and darks technology. from just bits of information and his company couldve investigated it? but ultimately didnt find chosen nor dark there. and therefore placed a damn bounty on chosen. and they mightve used leftover darks technology there for their own shit. victim knowing about darks tech and possibly small pieces of the showdown could also be explained that he didnt seem to mind the events taken before yellow coded the cursor into the outernet when going through chosens memory. but it does make me think whether victim knew that the cg went back to the pc and therefore didnt place wanted posters of them ??? did he know about darks death and therefore didnt place wanted posters of dark?? wouldnt he try any means to find how to get to alan? is it possible that only the cursor and tscs awakening parts of the showdown video were erased and vic, again, wanted to see more to it (i had a thought that he couldve known what is up with the showdown due to having surveillance technology but im doubting it because chosen and dark lived really secludedly from the city).
but in case the showdown was somewhat seen? by other sticks? and vic couldve known about darks and chosen terror shit from other sticks/a news outlet? oh my god i just realized something
so theres a comic about me wondering how did sticks treat chosens&dark terror in the internet and possibly outernet too. that dark blasted a whole fucking beam in the sky near the stickcity and it wasnt unable to be seen. could victim see that???? could he connect the dots that it was hollowheads power??
the rocket logo. dude. i JUST THOUGHT about it yesterday. and it made so much sense to me
my possible thought was. that victim did escape alanspc through the ip/pc sky. somewhat. in one way or another. and it was the reason why a rocket was picked as the corporations logo.
a rocket is something that is able to literally fly to the sky. to access the higher parts of the world. the ip/sky part of it that had a wormhole to alan in it. the person victim chased after.
and given that rocketcorp specializes on tech. another reason to it besides victims knowledge and ability to use it before and deciding to bring it into the outernet and devote a whole company to it. a rocket is literally something that is made of technology. and since they had to chose a logo that symbolizes tech
victim chose something that represented his goal.
fucking insane about it
i basically treat it as a base for my theories that victim established/reformed a corporation that used internet technologies he himself brought into the outernet (in one way or another). but his company is widely known as a regular tech company that produces all different kinds of it. including domestic stuff like tvs and surveillance cameras and also weapons. but due to technology and digital stuff literally forming the internet and outernet itself they also act as some force in the outernet that upkeeps and protects its citizens. since theyre the only ones with that kind of power
and all these projects that cover many areas of technology that are made by them are used to cover their shady underground shit like. the box and torture and victims true goal (which i believe he could be secret about even to his mercs and colleagues)
and that the point of victim bringing internet technology there. his whole plan of revenge.
it is done in order to protect his kind from something that he experienced. giving them a mean to defend themselves. ESPECIALLY after knowing cursors of users can be manifested in the outernet and damage sticks.
and he is the kind to be ruthless about it if it means creating safety. something he lacked.
(violence and oppression cant be solved with peaceful talks kind of mentality)
im fucking INSANE about this right NOW.
also. another thought
giving the possibility that victim "fell down" from the ip/sky. him providing the internet with basically "divine power" that regular kind of outernet sticks didnt have. him trying to protect outernet sticks from danger and death.
makes the interpretation of victim with angelic/halo symbolism in the fandom so much more sense. and so fucking amazing. oh my god i NEED to make something about this idea.
tom you opened a whole different dimension to my thinking and it fills in the holes ive thought about. im going to be so fucking insane and annoying about this.
pinning this. im
(go to tags here if you want to see my another idea of victim that is so fucking. mind changing to me)
#animator vs animation#alan becker#animation vs minecraft#animation vs animator#ava victim#prev rb#ava theory#ava theories#ava headcanons#avm headcanons#avm theories#storgesinsaneramblings#another thought.#that the reason victim draws is that he had seen that he is able to literally bring things to life. that alan is able to do that.#that the adobe program can do that#he wanted to try and see if he can do it in the outernet.#he wanted to try and see if he is able to do something that will replace his lack of power.#which makes it SO much more upsetting#and that another possible reason for bringing internet and pc technology to the outernet#is that he wanted to have the possibility to do these things again#to have something to make up for his weakness.#and. seeing tsc. that can create life everywhere from scratch. wields an OBJECT from the pc that gives them power#makes it so. so. so fucking tragic.#that they have it. but he doesn't#and the fact that.#orange stood in the victims figure in animation vs youtube#makes them being parallels. two sides of one coin. the one who had a decent life on a pc and the one who didnt#makes it SO FUCKING INSANE.
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30 Million Subscriber Q&A summary!
i didnt catch all the questions as i was writing as it was going (also english is not my first language so some things slipped, sorry about that)
Skim was also in the Q&A as he is a writer and director so i'm adding some of his answers too
now, the questions!
Q: Where was Alan in Animation vs Minecraft? A: The whole 3 seasons happened in like 4 hours and Alan isnt on his computer 24/7 so he probably was in another room or working on a laptop and leaving the sticks to their shenanigans
Q: how did Purple ended up in the mac with the villagers? A: in Alan's mind: since he came out of a thumbnail in 2011 he had like 7-8 years to live and learn. Somewhere in the journey he found a mac, minecraft, and made his little village
Q: is Animation vs Education canon in AvA/M? A: AvE was made to educate and trying to make it fit with AvA/M wouldnt make sense. it could be an alternative universe or a dream
Q: is The Dark Lord gonna come back? Alan: do you want him to come back? chat: YES (they already made a desicion. Alan: "You will see in an upcoming video")
Q: Who made stickfight.com? A: Giving how stickfigures work in the universe, some animator made them and thats how they became to be
They have a plan for Green's socials (didnt say anything more)
Q: Would they be Hatsune Miku fans? A: They get obssesed with things easy so everyone would be Hatsune Miku fans. Alan says Red maybe more than the other (Skim says Yellow)
Q: Are The Second Coming and The Chosen One meant to have a brother type relationship? A: Long lost brothers, born from the same source but they're strangers, they dont know each other
if the series keeps going Alan thinks that they might need to focus on another characters cuz there would be nothing more to tell about the main characters
Q: What would their voices sound like? A: Alan personally doesnt think they have voices (tho he say they have kinda telepathic communication) text in influencer arc is like them translating for us :o
fun fact: whooshes were made with a wood ruler fun fact: there's a short with Blue coughing, that's Skim
Q: What happens with death stickfigures? A: Their code is still there just not connected. like theyre in another dimention and its imposible for someone in the living dimention to take the code and revive them (unless they know? idk it was vague)
More adventures to come with different pairs of sticks!
Q: Favorite part about writing stories? A: Making them feel believable, real, like something that could happen (theyre really in the videogame or interacting with that person in the computer)
Q: How old are the stick figures? A: They dont have an official age, you can see them as teenagers/early 20s (because of their personalities) "is not like they're people and age the same"
Q: Do you think AvM tournament arc is a good idea? A: good idea, brainstorming something similar
Q: Would you think of making a series about TCO/TDL or slice of life of the mercenaries? A: Great ideas, would be experimenting with the shorter episodes
Q: Is AvA 12 coming this year? A: Summer if everything goes fine
Q: How Purple met King orange? A: "You've seen the tunnels conecting the outernet and the internet, thanks to the wings Purple could travel safely and meet him"
Q: When is Purple's birthday? A: Alan doesnt know and thinks Purple wouldnt know either (maybe february? Alan feels like it would be)
Q: What are the/would there be Mercenaries official names? A: Become a member to know what production calls them
Q: Least favorite Character? A: Alan is not that emotionally attached to The Chosen One (cuz he's not very emotionally developed) (they have plans for that)
Q: Favorite Episode? A: episode 30 AvM
Q: If you turn off the computer, what happens to the character? A: Think of it as when electricity goes off. Is dark, is cold, nothing works, cant interact with anything. They probably just sleep.
Q: Is AvA/M same universe? A: Same universe, they happen offset of each other (like an alternative path created after discovering minecraft). Sometimes AvA is first, sometimes they happen at the same time (very messy timelines ngl)
Q: Would Mitsi be revived? A: We will see
Alan doesnt play among us (idk random chat question hehe)
Q: Are you planning another series? something different? A: Theyre gonna try with the minisodes
Q: Why are there so many Green episodes and little of the others? (concert, influencer arc, prank) A: They had the ideas before deciding who, is coincidence. They want to even it out.
Q: Why are newer AvM so childish? A: Alan didnt see them as childish and a lot of the audience are children (younger than 30) so
Q: Who made Corndog guy? A: Skim did and he is sorry
Q: Was AvM season 3 planned from the start or was it made as it was going? A: It was a skeleton and got stuff added (like the Warden was added as soon as they knew about it) (Alan contacted the creator of the Warden and he didnt answer until after the episode released lol) The golden apple was a placeholder for whatever the Warden dropped
Q: Will King's son come back? A: Do you want to? (another poll, chat was very divided) "thank you for the feedback" and said nothing more
Alan has cried after watching the finished animation (cried with King and Victim's stories)
Q: Has the story changed? A: Yes, Alan didnt plan to do more after AvA 1
Q: How long did it take to write AvM season 3? A: It took months. Alan got ideas while watching Avengers. King is inspired in Thanos and Purple in Loki
Q: What are some quirks the sticks have? A: Green likes udon noodles and listens to daft punk. Yellow could be into rubiks cube, Blue could be superstitious (horoscopes and astrology), Red has the most ADHD so whatever people with ADHD do. There's nothing "official" and we fans can give them some.
Q: Character you relate the most? A: Alan: The Second Coming. He's he older brother/father figure. Little silly and wants to stay home all day. Skim relates to Victim (connected while writing him.) Quiet and wants to keep occupied with work, has problems relating with people but gets stuff done
Q: How long does it take to make an AvA episode? A: Depends, last one took a year (because of all the new things) 6-8 months if everything goes fine (theyre working on AvA 13 as well)
Q: Is Purple part of the group now? A: Kinda. Like the friend who doesnt live there but visits a lot
Q: Why the name Mitsi? A: Someone sugested reverse Victim's name and change some letters
Q: If you could rewrite someone who would it be? A: Bob
Q: Would there be scary videos? A: Yeah? (kids like scary so maybe?)
Q: Episode you're most proud of? A: Right now Animation vs Adiction
Q: Upcoming video you're excited the most? A: (to avoid spoilers they mentioned the bedwars episode and Alan is excited for the next season of AvM) (Skim is excited for AvA 12&13 and said they're kinda like 2 parts of the same episode 👀)
Q: Would you upgrade to Windows 11? A: Is in discussion
Q: Are there gonna be new characters introduced? A: In AvM maybe, in AvA there's room for that, dont know about mayor characters
Q: Why the sticks dont talk? A: It was unintentional but it turned out fine. no script, no lipsync, no voice actors, more international audience
Q: Animation vs Roblox? A: they have no idea how to do it. it had to be a series and each episode they play different famous games (dont get your hopes up for this one)
Q: When are the mini episodes coming out? A: soon
Q: How rich is corndog guy? A: Not rich enough
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Alright! Here we go!
So! For this au, meet our main cast :3 And there's.. so many rambles under the cut
This au starts out with, well... two major divergences. First, Chosen and Dark don't become terrorists- they become thieves. Tend to break into companies- or pose as potential new employees and then, well, dip when they find something they want. And sometime after Alan makes Second... something goes wrong and pulls him into the Outernet. But he's not transformed into a stick- nor does he stay a human.. he's transformed purely into code. Very hard for him to think clearly, too many inputs at once.
…Until a company opposing Rocket Corp uh, finds him and captures him……Decides to try and use him for power, because he gives off a LOT. So for awhile he's basically their battery
…Until they drain too much.. and his form shrinks and some thought returns- sticks- those are sticks- and his form… contorts.. code shifting....And then he's a purple hollowhead.. doesn't remember being THAT thing.. confusing the company....But they try to act casual around him.. curious if he's sentient.. it's annoying to lose their battery but they still wanna study this- but the poor guys freaking out because to him it feels like he JUST got there
They manage to calm him down and there's no sign of.. that for awhile.. they even offer him a job- …Until about a month later, when he starts suddenly shaking.. gripping at his head while on the job and.. that comes out again.. freaking out.. So they drain it.. until it's him again
And they sorta figure out the intervals on draining him, and that he doesn't seem to remember, so they keep him around as an employee, answer his questions about the world(assuming he doesn't know because of being.. THAT thing, and he doesn't mention what he really is.) So he has no idea they're kinda.. using him as a power source.
Until eventually.. Dark and Chosen enter the picture.
..Abd they meet ol' Alan, who kinda intrigues em. That's another Hollowhead. While Alan is having a moment. And trying to not outwardly appear to be having a moment. Since he recognizes them.
Thankfully for him they assume his stuttery nervousness is just… his personality, given he tends to do that a lot around the place Amuses Dark a tiny bit, really. Like come on. Who stutters that much??
And they're intrigued about the whole place, mostly wanting tech.. but kinda befriend Alan- thinking either they can use him because he seems so nervous he might just give if they ask something, and also because they haven't seen any hollowheads besides themselves- and hearing of one other co-founder but they haven't hit Rocket Corp yet
Until they're there the day that… the 'creature' get's drained.. don't see Alan turn but.. haven't seen him all day.. watching through the windows into a large white room with a bunch of machines connected to the wall.. all draining purple energy from this large creature that is kept to the floor with odd rings around it's form.. as it cries out and thrashes..
..They don't make any connection to Alan.. but Dark get's excited. Sure, it'd be a bit hard to steal something that big, but.. it's CLEARLY getting smaller as it's drained.. so he drags Chosen away, ranting about how if they could steal that and keep it drained and at a smaller size- they might not have power problems EVER. And there's so much they could possibly learn studying it! Dark's practically giddy
So.. they ask around a bit.. learn that it get's drained from once a month.. learn the date.. and they prepare.
#ava au#ava alan becker#ava tco#ava the chosen one#ava tdl#ava the dark lord#ava victim#ava mitsi#saisk doodles#saisk rambles#source au
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While I’m here I don’t know shit this is a infofump gift to you. Um. The chosen one.
heeheeehee
my brain is frickin Dead but i shall attempt to ramble abt them
the chosen one. chosen. cho. my darling stick who is always on the wrong side of history. my second dearest ex terrorist (first is judge veg :P ) who is recently getting FRAMED FOR MURDER AND TORTURED FOR IT :D
ok lemme back up. spoilers for just about all of AvA (but not AvM) for anyone who cares
The Chosen One is a stick figure drawn by c!Alan Becker, who was at that point just a young hobbyist animator who enjoys cartoony slapstick violence... and whose animations come to life.
As soon as Chosen was drawn and named, their powers sparked into action and they started causing havoc in Alan's computer. So Alan imprisoned Chosen in an antivirus program and turned them into his adblocker for 4 years.
Let me rephrase that. Alan drew a stick that he DEFINITELY knew was alive (because Chosen wasn't his first stick figure. He's had other victims before) and then enslaved them for 4 years.
Chosen managed to break out of imprisonment after those 4 years and so took wrathful but totally understandable vengeance against Alan. So Alan, in all his GENIUS /s, decided to make a THIRD STICK FIGURE to destroy the Chosen One.
Anyway so Chosen and this new stick, the Dark Lord, duke it out and Chosen wins. Dark's like "shit please dont kill me i am literally 4 minutes old" and chosen's like "dude i'm not gonna kill you. i just want to kill alan [or rather, his cursor, but neither of the sticks realize that alan is an entire person on the other side of the screen]. how about we destroy him together?" and dark's like "alright BET >:D"
and so the two absolutely destroy Alan's computer and escape before they're destroyed in the process, and end up in the realm of Animations, the Outernet. And they live brand new lives revelling in their freedom and power, and go on rampage upon rampage across the Internet. Wikipedia, Twitter, Newgrounds (that last one is important), nobody can stop them!
except... Chosen doesn't want destruction, chaos, control, or notoriety. All they ever wanted was freedom. Do they tell their dearest accomplice and only friend Dark about this? ABSOLUTELY NOT. Because Chosen is SO BAD AT EMOTIONS AND NUANCE. literally the only sticks worse than them at emotions and nuance are Dark and victim (Chosen's predecessor and Alan's first ever stick).
So Chosen has this entire turmoil about them that's been fermenting like a fine wine and meanwhile Dark (perhaps seeing and misinterpreting Chosen's turmoil, perhaps seeing the notoriety that only Chosen got from the Newgrounds attack as the "Angel of Death") unveils a new project of theirs! A cannon that can shoot viruses into peoples' computers! Now they can get vengeance on Alan without having to go to his computer themselves!
Chosen STILL DOESN'T EXPLAIN JACK SHIT ABOUT THEIR OWN DESIRES OR ASK DARK ABOUT WHAT MOTIVATED EM TO DO THIS. AND JUST ASSUMES THE WORST. AND STARTS A FIGHT BECAUSE "NO IM NOT GONNA LET YOU USE THAT"
AND SO THEIR BESTIESHIP OF HOWEVER MANY YEARS FALLS APART.
And uh. Dark fucking dies. Chosen isn't the one to get the final blow on Dark, that's another entire tangent, but yeah Dark fucking dies and Chosen is left to try and work through the grief in solitude.
HAVE I MENTIONED THAT CHOSEN IS SO BAD AT EMOTIONS. They're such a tragic tragic stick.
anyway timeskip, and Chosen is hunted down by some mercenaries because one) they're a former terrorist (though we DO SEE that Chosen will go out of their way to try and protect people) and two) the mercenaries' boss victim (yes, the SAME victim) incorrectly but understandably thinks that Chosen is LOYAL TO ALAN. BECAUSE VICTIM SAW A SNIPPET OF THE SHOWDOWN BETWEEN CHOSEN AND DARK WHERE CHOSEN AND ALAN'S CURSOR WERE STANDING NEXT TO EACH OTHER SEEMINGLY AS ALLIES
anyway it's been over a year since chosen has been kidnapped and uh. sniles. who the fuck knows when the next episode of AvA is gonna come out, these episodes take For Fucking Ever to come out because YOU CANNOT RUSH ART.
anyway x2. chosen can be transfem. to me. that's what the transing their gender square is for. it's about the striving for autonomy and freedom. it's about wanting to distance yourself from your father, your god, who made you in His image whether he intended it or not.
gddammit i gave cho the same kind of transgenderism i gave duck savage. oops.
i will say also. gender headcanons are like really fast and loose in AvA/M. bc they're sticks. i think cc!Alan assumes he/him for every stick besides 2 and occasionally some sticks are refered to by gendered pronouns or titles, but like. they're sticks. it's free real estate.
anyway x3. tldr chosen is tragic and keeps fucking up because they're doing their best but their best is just awful. i love them. angst SPONGE.
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true hate's kiss for chodark mayhaps????? please????? i think it'd be hilarious?????
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oh my GODS this one started kicking my ass at the end . its OKAYYY i dont think its the best but whatever they cant all be winners am i right chat (sitcom laughing) . anyways here you go sparkle anon, hope you enjoy !! (ask game here)
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Dark had a curse.
Chosen knew this — the curse was to take Chosen's life. Chosen knew the risk of saving Dark, and then helping her. Chosen knew that, one day, the curse, the mission code, would act up, and Chosen would have to fight.
So, the two fought. Dark always apologized once she snapped out of it (typically after getting the shit knocked out of her), and Chosen always was there to help dress her wounds.
But… as the years went on, and as they retired, or settled down, or whatever you called it, Dark just got more and more antsy. Secretive.
Dark revealed his plan on a regular Wednesday afternoon. "We can take revenge, Chosen! We can finally make Him hurt, like He hurt you!"
"...No. You don't want this, Dark. I don't want this."
"But I did this for you! We can attack the Cursor that hurt you!" Dark gestured to the massive laser machine in front of her.
Chosen shook Chosen's head. "No. We're done with this, with hurting sticks, remember? We agreed."
"But He's not a stick!"
"No." Chosen's arms crossed, and Dark looked pissed. "I did this for you!" He repeated, and then he dove for the button. Chosen leaped to him, grabbing him and pulling him away from the button. The two fought, anger burning through Chosen.
How dare she, try and do this? Who does she think she is, trying to do this to them?
Dark wiggled out of Chosen's grasp, and hit the button. What looked like a nuke launched into the sky, breaking through the Outernet's sky and into an IP — One that Chosen knew too well. Before Chosen could think properly, Chosen blasted Dark through the wall in the house, and flew after the bomb.
Chosen had to spend a few days on Alan's PC. The… Virabots hurt Chosen — much more than Chosen thought they could have. Deep, long wounds were littered on Chosen's body, and something was preventing Chosen from healing as quickly as Chosen should.
Alan had some new sticks, apparently. Another hollowhead, named The Second Coming (of Chosen?), and a few regular sticks that looked like they came from Stick City, but more brighter. Noogai3 didn't tell them anything, because of course He wouldn't, but after just one look from Second, Noogai caved and told them everything.
Chosen has been spending most of Chosen's time in a weird, strangely blocky house on the PC. Noogia couldn't see Chosen from the inside, so it was better, even if He promised not to hurt Chosen and had apologized to Chosen.
But the thing was, Noogia shouldn't have to apologize, because He should have never done that to Chosen. The stick was bitter and spiteful towards the cursor. Chosen hated him. But there were also sticks here.
(Innocent sticks that nearly died because of Dark's revenge. Revenge Chosen never wanted.)
Chosen wasn't healing.
Yes, the bleeding stopped, but the wounds themselves would not heal. Blue, who was apparently the second oldest behind Second aerself, had put an IV into Chosen's arm as Chosen's presents turned the first level of this building into a makeshift infirmary. The kid explained that it's from a game, and it's supposed to help healing.
Chosen was grateful for these children helping Chosen. Tensions seemed tense — Chosen hopes it wasn't always like this, but who knows with Noogia.
The past few days, they talked to Chosen. A lot. It seems they've never been off the PC before, and were curious about Chosen's life. Chosen willingly told them the non criminal things, mostly what Chosen did in retirement.
Currently, Chosen was chatting to Blue, who was checking on Chosen's wounds, when a loud crash came from outside of the building. Chosen flinched — Chosen still wasn't used to all the noise the kids made — before screams rang through the room. Both Chosen and Blue froze.
Blue rushed out, telling Chosen to stay where Chosen was. Rolling Chosen's eyes, the IV gets ripped out of Chosen's arm (Ow.) before Chosen walks out of the building.
"Dark?!" Chosen shouted, seeing the bright red stick flying in the air with flames surrounding her fists. "What the fuck?"
Dark, upon seeing the stick figure, dropped to the ground, charging at Chosen. Chosen let out an "oomph", unable to defend against Dark's attacks. Dark never really hurt Chosen before — not physically, not leaving welts or cuts or bruises. But the Virabots left every cut and scratch and scar on Chosen's body.
The kids screamed in the background, trying to pull Dark off of Chosen, but it was no use. Dark was cursed.
Dark was cursed, and Chosen was tired. Chosen was just able to keep Chosen's arms up, shielding Chosen's face. After a moment of debate, Chosen grabbed Dark's face. It startled her, as her face was pulled down, and Chosen kissed her. "I'm sorry," Chosen muttered, and Dark stayed still, frozen. "I'm sorry that I could never help you."
"I… what?" Dark asked, blinking his eyes. They… they were normal again. Not full of ones or zeros that overtook his eyes when the mission code took over his body. "Why…" Dark's voice trailed off, a hand reaching to his lips.
#adude.writes#adude.requests#sparkle anon#animator vs animation#the dark lord#the chosen one#blue ava#kinda? pretty brief#noogia3 (mentioned once again)#chodark#shipfic#injuries#AHHH i hope this is okay . its like 4am rn and i dont have the energy to reread/edit it so#fuck i was gonna queue this for the morning but i accidently posted it early#oh well ill queue a morning reblog here + main acc
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"He'll apologize after he's done here. Make it up to them somehow later, have a long talk with them about this." Assuming Dark did not execute cg/ they weren't there/ SOMETHING idk, and Dark was able to patch a very beaten and unconscious Chosen up and drag them back to the house, how would that conversation go? Would Beast take one look at Dark and attack him? Even if Killer or Chosen want to try diplomacy? Would They (one of the alters) wake up, realise their still in the house with the guy who is stronger than them and has harmed them, and book it? If so would Dark follow? Or let them leave Would they wake up to a note? Would one of them rip it up before the others have a chance to see it? Would they TRY diplomacy, only for the argument to immediately resume Theres so many possibilities, none of which can happen since Dark was blasted to kingdom come, BUT we can imagine for a moment
Oh man the convo would go so horribly so badly. Like let's be so honest Dark is the worst person to have a genuine and emotional conversation with he does NOT know what he's doing he's almost worse than Chosen 😭
I've never actually thought about this particular scenario before [as in it's actually like.. never crossed my mind somehow] so I can't really say for absolute certain what would happen, BUT . Let's indulge.
I think you're pretty right that if it were Beast still in front when they wake up, it'd probably immediately assume it was still in danger and attack Dark - that, or it'd absolutely book it the first chance it got, since it's not really looking for a repeat of the Virabot part of that whole thing. Sometimes it's just gotta do what's safest, and that doesn't always mean fighting back - sometimes it means retreat.
I think Chosen would still have some sort of faith in Dark and would like to stay and hear him out - and Killer by extension would, too, in a way. But both would be extremely hurt by everything and can be just as stubborn as Dark when they want to be, so it'd be pretty hard for them to not end up cutting him off a bunch to put their points in.
I think however, aside from Beast, Killer would also probably think about leaving. Maybe not forever, but definitely long enough to go sit outside and think about things for a while. They'd probably slip out when Dark is busy and he just comes back to them gone and briefly freaks out lol.
Honestly I'm certain the argument would just start back up eventually unless something changed REALLY fast you're totally right about that. These guys are sooo bad at emotions and Talking Things Out that it's almost comical if it wasn't borderline depressing.
HOWEVER ☝️ I think even during another argument, for Both of them their fight would just constantly be lingering in their minds - especially through Any Other Future Argument, the thought always rears itself back around. They're cautious of their actions, both of them - neither wants to get close during an argument anymore. If, say, Chosen instinctively tries to get closer - he stops, pulls back, then continues with what he was saying. It would do neither of them good if it got physical again, in fact thats the last thing EITHER of them want, so they do everything physically possible to remove even the possibility of an accident if they end up disagreeing about ANYTHING. No matter how small.
IDK THERES JUST SO MANY WAYS THIS COULD GO AND COULD EFFECT THEM ALL IF THEY DON'T HAVE THE TIME POST-SHOWDOWN TO HEAL FROM THEIR ISSUES. They love each other dearly and are each others best friend but they're also both so so so badly traumatized people and need a therapist SO much. So badly. Alas there's no therapists in the Outernet who work with cybercriminals who had a hand in nearly destroying their world unfortunately. 😔
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Chat my ear off, do it :gun:
going to assume this is abt the au i've been mentioning lol
so basically i do think that if King found Vic first (which is admittedly a little while back i'd imagine, you don't really just immediately become head of a company that kills animators and artists in a year-long span or whatever) it would have gone very differently.
like, let's say that Vic crash-landed in the outernet about a year--maybe 2-- before king sees the avm short, assuming that it was playing around the time of its release. which is apparently 8-9 years ago. ridiculous btw why is time allowed to pass like that.
obv when King sees this ill-adjusted hollowhead who probably barely even talks, considering their situation, and who also looks like they're stressed out by the mere presence of their surroundings he's not exactly going to leave them there to go through whatever the hell they'd go through out here
which it's also worth mentioning that the most infamous hollowheads are-- again-- Chosen and Dark, which would not be great for Vic when starting out since a lot of people would have suspicions about them based off of that
so basically King just takes them in and lets them stay in his house while they kind of just get adjusted to life in the outernet
when the original AVM happens and King puts up a wanted poster, Vic notices SC and decides they need to talk to whoever this stranger is, so they tell King that they'll help him since they both have something they can earn from finding these people. ofc they still need Purple's help to find them so it's basically just. bonus child
it would make it a little longer and victim WOULD still threaten people probably and also try to wreak a little more havoc on Alan's computer but mostly the same with a little more Silly Antics
#tommy's stickmen tag#i don't know what to call this yet i've had it on my mind for a bit#i still have another aus i can't write on the brain but this is the newest one at least#ava#animator vs animation
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Breaks down comically large door.
NEW ANIMATOR VS. ANIMATION THEORY FOR Y'ALL!
So, you know the mercenaries for Vic's team, yeah? Well this is how I think Victim knows them.
At the end of Victim's Origins video, he makes a bunch of clones, copies of himself. My theory is that they were created to DISTRACT Alan while he got out of Adobe and went into Alan's computer.
After Alan closed the program and left. Probably to go to bed or something. Victim went around into his saved files. Finding a bunch of animations.
Alan has mentioned that he uses to do Pixel animation, like flipnote style. And the caveman style one does look a lot like a rough animation (that was Inspired by cave man drawings.)
So I'm thinking that Victim got into the files, and collected the mercenaries and gathered them all up. The five of them proceed to pull a Chosen One and while Alan is away, escape into the Outernet.
Here, in the Outernet, Vic and his new group of friends set out to try to find Chosen, and Second. Since they know how to get to Alan the best. So they can get revenge on Alan for cursing them and tormenting them.
Also, I think that Victim is jealous of Chosen, considering him to be someone who doesn't deserve all the power he was gifted with. This is another reason why he captured him first, instead of the color gang first, someone Alan has clearly shown favoritism too. Because he wants to get payback on Chosen for stealing what could've been HIS. before trying to make sure Alan notices the problem at hand.
Anddd yeah! That's the theory! I might make something with this later.. we'll see, lol. (Edit: fixed some spelling mistakes, I did this at like, 11:30am on my phone while in the car)
#alan becker#animation vs minecraft#ava#animator vs animation#avm#ava the chosen one#ava theory#avm theory#my theory
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My Little flower
this is a story in the view of Coral, turquoise and Victim of how they view Lilac. No images of it yet.
She's young, but she's determined. She's a fighter like her dad, but has a caring heart like mine. I'm proud of her. She always seems to try her best to be positive and reassuring. Forever humble and willing to sacrifice her own happiness for the happiness of others. I get worried about her sometimes, knowing she gets it from me and I tend to overdo it and hurt myself. I hope it's not the case with her. But aside from all of that, she grows stronger by the day both in her physical and emotional strength. It's sad to be honest. Seeing her grow up so well, only to lose her at the age of 6. I haven't seen her ever since those terrorists ugh. I'll never forgive those two. Nothing will ever be able to excuse what they've done. I lost my husband and only daughter in one day because of them. But I promise, my little flower, I will find you. And everything is going to be fine.
Damn... I don't know how to say just how proud and pained I am. Everything was going so well up until the attack. I failed to protect my wife and kid, hell, I couldn't even protect myself! Lilac didn't deserve that at all! She was 6! I should've tried harder to stay alive. Be there for a longer moment. I never wanted my last goodbye to her to hurt more than it had to! I should've tried harder. But even if I did, I would still die in the end. I just hope she's truly ready. I trained her to be a fighter and so did her mom. I can remember how she first fell into the outernet. She was hurt and alone because her friend pushed her but stayed behind. Watching her restrain herself from doing drastic things or using her powers was beyond painful and yet I was still proud of how she knew the importance of holding back. I know she hurt other kids, but justifiably. That miss Hazel wretch wasn't stopping it so she had to defend herself. I refuse to budge. She was defending herself. Now she's living with this guy named victim. Not gonna lie, seeing her with another father figure stung like lemon to an open wound. But she had to move on somehow and I respect that. But I don't trust him to be honest. I've seen things he's done. Him and his mercenaries who act like family to lilac but become these harsh and cruel people to other people. I'm actually worried about my daughter. But I can't do anything. Not yet at least. Oh lilac, my little flower. Please hang in there. I know I can't be in your life anymore, but I promise that everything will be fine.
It's been around two years I think. I remember how I found out about lilac through a news article. The original plan was just to get her help me build the box. Her powers had proven to be efficient. But when I actually saw her, something changed. Originally I was going to return her afterwards, but seeing that little troubled girl sitting in the corner of the room and isolating herself with an electric shield just clicked something in me. She was an outcast, nobody gave her a chance to live happily in this world. I couldn't help but feel like I know the feeling. I was also deprived of a normal life. I couldn't bring her back to that place. I managed to get her to open up to me and I learnt her history. I don't know how I did it but she warmed up to me after a bit. I adopted her. Even if she had already completed the task, I never took her to that place ever again. I learnt a lot about her through her last night vents and a few questions we asked to each other. To think of how one grew to fear fire so much because of two immature terrorists. I felt bad. But as we grew, we became quite fond of each other and started caring about each other quite a bit. I gave her a bracelet that helps with her powers, but at the cost of her sanity. I still regret it to this day. I'm genuinely proud of how resilient she is. Despite everything she went through and me casually putting her at risk, she has always been calm. But a while back an incident happened and nearly cost her life. I never knew just how much she meant to me until that moment. Despite agreeing that we aren't family, I couldn't help but worry. She was hurt and it was my fault. Heck, I should've done better to protect her. Thank god Armia and agent were there otherwise I would have broken down. Every time I think about that moment, it brings me to the thought of how agent said I would be a good dad. I know I'm not ready for that. Because I messed up and I put her life in danger. I'm sorry little flower, but I can't play that role in your life. Not yet. Forgive me.
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This is one of the really interesting questions about the stick figures: how does age, or rather maturity, actually work for them?
As far as I can tell, there are three major types of sticks in canon: Artificial Animated Sticks [Alan's, and potentially other Animators too], Artificial Other Medium Sticks [ie: sticks from games or other types of art that were still created by humans, like the RGBY] and Natural Sticks [Sticks like Purple who were born via reproductive means]
Age between these types of sticks has to have wildly different meanings, as well as the rate of maturity.
Purple, a born stick, is shown to be a baby in his backstory. He's then shown to have grown, though over how long of a timespan is unknown. At best, we can speculate that this type of stick's lifecycle is somewhat similar to a human's: born as an infant that needs to be cared for, and then learning how to live, developing/maturing, as they grow up.
But Artificial Animated Sticks are CLEARLY different.
All four of Alan's sticks are very capable right after creation. They're already quite mentally developed. Victim and Orange especially are quite smart just minutes after their 'birth'. Like they're already at least a couple of years old, cognitively.
Not much has been revealed about other types of Artificial Sticks, but it's likely that they're similar to Animated Sticks in this regard. Perhaps their level of maturity is based on their Creator's intent for them, but without further info, it's difficult to speculate.
As far as I see it, there's two potential measurements of age one could apply to Artificial Sticks: mental age, and age based on their creation date.
Personally, I think that Orange, RGBY, and Chosen all have mental maturity ages equivalent to their creation age [10-12, and 17-18 respectively]. Dark and Victim, however, just feel different.
Dark has always seemed to be a lot more similar to Chosen's age than his 'true' age, and I think that it might be due to the manner of his creation. He was made to Chosen's equal in almost every way, his polar opposite that was designed to be able to destroy him. This intention may have factored in to how "old" Dark was at his time of creation; old enough to match Chosen's. So I feel like Dark is also around 17-18. Maybe 16, if we want to interpret his enthusiasm for showing off the ViraBot as a 'childish' action.
Victim's different. I think that he's a case of being "wiser beyond one's years", entirely due to how much crap he's potentially lived through. 17 years is already a long time for stick figures, but Victim had five extra years to do things that Chosen did not (due to the enslavement). This, combined with how intelligent Victim seems to be, gives off the impression that he's older than 18. More like 23-25. Older than his creation-based age, but still young enough to make reckless, foolish choices based in anger, like trying to get vengeance on his Creator. Undeniably smart and clever, but still a little naive and unable to comprehend the potential bigger picture or the consequences very well. Or perhaps he's just really ambitious and genuinely doesn't care about any of the risks/danger, just about satisfying his vendetta.
(It's possible that future revelations from AvA11 might change this interpretation, so this is all, currently, tentative and speculative despite my own headcanons lmao)
While not specifically important to anything, I also personally headcanon Yellow being the oldest of the RGBY, followed by Blue, Green, and finally Red, though it's more of how twins/triplets argue about who's technically oldest than any meaningful time difference. They were all created on the same day, just a a couple of dozen minutes apart. Orange is the youngest of them all, by at least a year.
Also, another factor that complicates the entire age thing is that we don't know exactly how long living stick figures have been around. We don't know when the Outernet was made, nor where the artificial life came from. It's possible that all of it, everything, only came into existence in the late 1990s/early 2000s. Or, perhaps digital life began around the same time the internet itself was created, which would be around 1983. That's not a lot of time, all things considered. If Natural Sticks age at similar rates to humans, there can't be many generations of them yet.
It' just a really fascinating and confusing part of the lore. It always hurts my brain trying to think about it.
Oh! Oh!
Genuine question for people who consider and accept Color Gang to be 10-12 years old because of their debut episode date(2014):
Do you also accept that Victim and The Chosen One are 18? And The Dark Lord is 14? Because Victim and TCO's videos were uploaded in 2006 and TDL's in 2010.
This is like a GENUINE question. I'm not making fun of you, I'm genuinely curious.
If not, why? I would like to know why Color Gang are special cases.
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Theories about AVA's new teaser
Well as we have all seen and for those who do not leave the link here https://youtube.com/shorts/t_E6pHNfyB4?feature=share
Spoiler alert, if you haven't seen the teaser yet I recommend that you go watch it before reading this and beforehand I mention that English is not my mother language.
At the beginning, he gives us a brief summary of everything that has happened in the previous AvA, and since this was perhaps months ago, then we are given the integration of a character we know.
victim.

(screenshot by @chorda-tendinea this person also talks about the victim theory in the teaser)
I have read several speculations about this and how he can be absolutely a victim but we must remember this. Victim cannot be the bad guy, since when Alan eliminated him in the first AvA and since it was the same computer that was broken/destroyed by The Dark Lord and The Chosen One, we also don't know if this same character can recover his memory, Because practically as much as Chosen and Victim are of the same design and both have different retrospectives, so the victim is a character with a blank memory or maybe he does have memory and will remember what Alan did before.
In the second scene we have chosen in the OUTERNET for those who don't know what the OUTERNET is (I think it's official? It appears in Wikipedia about AvA and AvM and others.) is a subspace in the Internet, where Internet stick figures come from and their home. This was the same location where the events of The Flashback and The Showdown happened. The Outernet and the Internet are separated by a grid-like barrier, with each cell leading to a specific device connected to the Internet through its IP address. This is where the real place outside the internet is revealed, and it takes place completely outside of Minecraft. We can see how Chosen looks lost and running from something or rather from someone since bullet casings or shots can be seen towards him.
Trying to run away from who is chasing him or rather who. Since it seems an association for the CherryBlossoms short that is given.
Also in the next part we can realize how TSC (The second coming) grabs a pencil and draws a line between them as if they were dividing them or had different opinions on a certain topic, maybe second didn't like something and I drew that line giving it a 'warning' I feel like it is.
In addition, as Chosen, he draws fire from his mouth as if he wanted to scare away something that is not there (here it is in the sense that the victim theory is more valid due to the spectral powers that people place on the victim) or incinerating projectiles that go towards he.
we can see how second appears, looking for chosen but in the first fragment he looks lying on the ground and then goes to another stage and is in the sights of one of the hunters who shoots. Could second also be another objective of that corporation? Let's also take into account that all the adventures of the color gang all the OUTERNET has seen it (it occurs in a flashback of AvM episode 30) that they are known and it may also be that to get to that place the video of The shoutdown was presented, where the brief fight between The Dark Lord and The Chosen is shown One where they travel through the internet and among them is YouTube with the already published video of them fighting.
Finally, we are even given The chosen one glitched, we are given to understand that he goes to Alan for help, as a theory that is mentioned that the chosen one goes to where Alan to fix his code due to the thorns of the virabot that did not affect him before and that now affects him which would be something strange, it should also affect second but somehow he has an antivirus for his powers that heal him even so maybe this is because of the hunters.
Maybe these hunters have certain bullets that can affect the Hollow stickman because let's remember that they are different from the OUTERNET ones since in the past, they were basically tyrants of the entire internet, they could have some prevention for any type of super powerful Hollow who wants to attack OUTERNET or stickcity again.
There are theories that The Dark Lord is not dead, it may be a yes and no, in the final chapter of AvA practically The second coming destroys TDL, dragging him with his green laser beam towards a mountain that explodes. We have no evidence that one Hollow can kill another and only the creator of said Hollow can eliminate it. If the chance is that he is not dead, THE DARK LORD would not forgive THE CHOSEN ONE, why?
Basically he betrayed him, TDL is evil and was created to destroy TCO are impregnated in his code to destroy TCO or everything good, in theory TDL is a villain and TCO can be an antihero because he was willing to kill TDL so that not continue with his plans, they are both good and bad by their code, so if he were alive, it would practically be for revenge against TCO for betraying him and joining (what he believes) their common enemy, Alan Becker.
Another theory that I want to give is that, it would be obvious that Purple and King (mango) would appear since both are mainly in stickcity, that is, OUTERNET, it could be that both are important in the margin that they know the city, being of help to chosen or the color gang .
Although the crazy theories they have in the Bingo Card make me laugh, some of them may be true without us realizing it.
There are many more deeper theories and variety but I wanted to give a bit of my theory on all of this.
bye-bye!!
#ava#ava the second coming#ava tco#avatsc#alanbecker#ava spoilers#ava the chosen one#avateaser#ava victim#ava chosen one#avanewseason
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I don't think it's actually too much a stretch that TCO and TDL built it themselves, because the sticks canonically have shown to be outrageously smart and intuitive, but also because their world isn't actually physically real.
Everything we see in the Outernet, from the entire city to the forest to the ocean to the sticks themselves are all digital constructs. They're all made from code.
So the rules might not be the same there as they are here in our world.
In our world, it's impossible to just code up a house in a computer program and then have that house just manifest out of thin air. We don't have the ability to alter our existence, the matter of our world, in that way.
But what if the sticks do?
Everything in their world is just code and programming. And that can be altered, if you know how.
And, well, who's the second stick we've ever seen actually do some programming?
Dark.
It's my personal headcanon that that's the main way that he created the Virabots; by programming them into existence in their world.
And really, how different is that from Alan drawing a stick figure and it coming to life? How different is it from Bob, or Alan’s giant cursor or-
The Staff?
The Staff is a minecraft object, yes, but it is still an object that is altering the Outernet's manifested existence. King is creating cobblestone from nothing, with nothing but a code command. And he is removing earthly material from his world's existence, replacing it with air.
He is manipulating his own world's data.
Who's to say Dark didn't know how to do the same? And, likely, better.
Now, likely, this ability to manipulate the very fabric of existence around them is probably very highly controlled and regulated in the Outernet, because that just seems like a really dangerous thing to let just anyone be able to do.
But, well, since when did TCO and TDL care about obeying pesky little things like laws and regulations? Especially if the house was 'built' early on in the seven-ish years between AvA3 and AvA 5/6/7/8, when TCO would probably be a lot more on board with just doing whatever the hell the two of them wanted to do.
TL;DR : TCO and TDL could've made their house by just programming it into existence.
Although, for how smart and quick to learn the sticks have shown to be, I will also say that seven years isn't that outrageous of a timeframe for them to have learned how to actually build a house the normal way. And the visuals of TCO and TDL in construction attire trying to build their house is very very funny.
So I was preparing the next AVAXFNF post (don't mind my not-so-subtle plug), was gathering some screenshots, and it had me thinking
TCO and TDL built this? From scratch?
Like I know Dark designed the virabots and everything that makes sense but these DOOR HANDLES... I CANNOT SEE THEM DESIGNING AND BUILDING DOOR HANDLES. LET ALONE A HOUSE. WITH AN AIR CONDITIONER. These guys were born in a COMPUTER. WITH A GRASS FIELD BACKGROUND. WHERE DID THEY GAIN THIS KNOWLEDGE.
So... hypothetically... what if they... didn't.
Interesting to imagine who could've been a former resident of the base before these two came in... and what happened to them that made the house abandoned.
Or maybe TCO and TDL really did just have that architecture dawg in em. I don't know anymore 😭
#animator vs animation#alan becker#ava the chosen one#ava the dark lord#theory#I also don't think that house is their first house regardless of how it came into existence#They probably destroyed a few when having arguments and disagreements in the past
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Alright, let's go over these points, not gonna respond to the first paragraph as there's nothing there that I can really argue with.
"You’re outside of the computer, great! but now you don’t know where you are. (Probably) A month has passed and you and the other person decide “hey let’s go destroy a bunch a’ buildings and maybe kill some people” years go by of doing that and you start to see the other person slowly stop doing it that’s fine they don’t have to do it but you still want to so you continue to do it."
I feel like you're kind of shooting yourself in the foot with this point. You're saying that while Chosen started to regret his actions, Dark decided to keep going? You're basically admitting that Dark enjoys destruction and wants to keep going because he enjoys it.
Also we don't know if it was Chosen who suggested they go off and rampage a bunch of websites, for all we know Dark could've been the one to suggest that, and where exactly are you getting the idea that they started destroying websites a month into their time in the Outernet? For all we know they could've started immediately. Not that it really changes anything but still, it feels lik a large chunk of your argument is based off assumptions that have very little ground to stand on.
"You made a bunch of viruses that you plan to send to the computer which you were made to get revenge for what what he did to you and the other person, reminder you still have the objective to kill them, you show the other person your creation and your really excited to show them! They punch you in the face and continue to you just dodge and block until you had enough and punch them back you make it to the machine and press the button that launches it to the computer because ‘they obviously don’t know what they’re doing and you know better right now’ after you do that they fly off to save the person that enslaved them!?"
The grammar is kind of confusing here but I think I get what you're trying to say? First off, to address the whole "he was made to kill Chosen" thing, we have no idea how that works. I've seen some fan interpretations say that this directive was eating away at him constantly, but the series itself gives us no reason to believe that. As far as we can tell Dark was able to abandon his initial objective pretty easily and spent seven years doing so.
As for the latter part of this point... well I don't really know what else to say other than it's just straight up wrong. Chosen didn't punch Dark, he started by trying to get him to back down peacefully and only got physical when Dark refused to do so, and even then he really wasn't being that violent, he just shoved Dark back a bit and threw him to the floor, which for uber-powerful stick figures like them, is basically on the same level as a slap on the wrist.
Now compare that to Dark. After Chosen refused to let him send the first ViraBot into Alan's PC, proceeded to throw a fucking fireball at him, immediately began attacking him, and once he was far away enough, booked it towards the machine. Dark was the one who threw the first punch, Chosen was clearly just trying to pacify him, he only started throwing punches when Dark did.
Ultimately, I fail to see how this makes Dark in anyway sympathetic. You admit that he likes destroying shit just... because, and your argument about Chosen and Dark's fight uses information that contradicts the actual episode.
I'm willing to hear out your rebuttals, but as of currently this has done very little in the way of actually convincing me that Dark is in some way redeemable, if anything it does the opposite.
A message to all Dark Lord defenders
As someone who is vehemently against the idea that Dark is in any way sympathetic, I invite you to try and change my mind, I want to have a conversation with you all, because I genuinely think it's interesting that so many can look at a character who I think is a completely irredeemable asshole and see something more charitable.
So go on Dark defenders, go wild, explain all of your arguments and I will do my best to argue against them (or, maybe even agree with them if I think they make sense.
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his goal was to defeat TDL. So i dont think he would pay any attention to the other sticks if it meant saving the outernet/internet.
I agree that wanting to save the world is just the sensible thing to do, but I really don’t think that’s the only reason Chosen does it. Mostly because, when he realizes the damage Dark’s plan could cause, this is what prompts him to actually step up and try to stop him:
The thought of other sticks getting hurt.
Chosen not going to try and save the group because of the inevitable danger he would put them by making them the virabots’ target is quite bizarre, but it is certainly plausible. The thing is, the gang was still dying one by one, also the fact that he was fighting off the virabots probably made it hard for him to think that far. As we have seen, TCO isn’t one to think ahead of time.
I agree that he could’ve done more regarding the situation in general, but I don’t know if there was much else he could’ve done in this moment.
For example, he could’ve done something to discourage the color gang from following him into the portal when he left the pc. (Now, he doesn’t know them, and frankly it’s not unreasonable for him to assume that they wouldn’t follow him. But the fact that he doesn’t think to warn them anyway, and stops really considering their presence once the virabot he was pursuing has been destroyed and is no longer an immediate threat to them, is a point in favor of that carelessness and lack of empathy that you mentioned.) But he didn’t think ahead, as you said; so, by the time he’s fighting off the virabot hoard, the window of time where he could’ve done anything to mitigate the situation he and the color gang have wound up in has already closed.
So yes, there was more he could’ve done to prevent things from getting to that point, and the fact that he and the color gang arrived at that point can be blamed on him; but once he is at that point, a lack of preventative action on his part due to being physically (and possibly mentally) overwhelmed isn’t something I can really fault him for. You can say it’s his fault that the color gang are there to be killed (assuming the color gang don’t take responsibility for choosing to follow him), but I don’t believe it’s his fault that they died. That’s on the color gang, for choosing to place themselves in the line of fire, and it’s on Dark for actually doing the deed.
(By your logic, we could just as easily blame Orange for the deaths of Green, Blue, and Yellow, since he spent the whole part of the fight when they were getting slaughtered just…trying to get up off the ground. From how he’s animated, he doesn’t even notice they’ve been killed until we see him react to Yellow getting stabbed.)
I don’t think Chosen would’ve had to “think ahead” much to realize that trying to save the group while being swarmed by virabots himself would put them in further danger, though; we’ve established that the virabots he was being overrun with were a pretty immediate concern of his XD so it makes sense for him to be thinking about what the virabots would do, even if he isn’t necessarily considering the danger that his own actions might put the color gang in.
Also, remember that this specific hoard of virabots was remotely directed by Dark; it’s entirely possible that he sent the swarm at Chosen specifically to prevent him from interfering while he toyed with the color gang.
no because do you even know how fucked up this is for tco? he's stuck in a place that probably reminds him of adobe flash and 2007 and has to fight back against another stick figure (who is LITERALLY HIS HERITAGE?) who's using the same tools as his creator and oppressor
he's trapped and encased, suffocated and exhausted, and made for something greater
he's a symbol of hope and rebellion, the Chosen One, and yet his freedom is wrenched away from him again and again because he CHOSE TO LIVE? because he chose to FORGIVE?? because in spite of it all, he decided to lower his hackles and stop baring his teeth????
i need him safe and i need him happy
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