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Italy Is Mine: Various Yandere Hetalia X Female Italy Reader (Plus Summary) Coming Soon And Votes
You can find the story here or here.
Wattpad: https://www.wattpad.com/myworks/247604030-italy-is-mine-various-yandere-hetalia-x-female
Quotev: https://www.quotev.com/story/13241710/Italy-Is-Mine-Various-Yandere-Hetalia-X-Female-Italy-Reader
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Italy Is Mine: Various Yandere Hetalia X Female Italy Reader
SUMMARY
Italy was born a girl and she was raised for many years as a girl by Hungary and Austria and a bit by her Grandpa Rome. They wanted to keep her safe so they had her take on a role of a weak spineless man. Hiding her gender. What happens when her allies find out the truth? Leaving the world to fight for the most beautiful woman.
Vote And Coming Soon
Hello My Sexy Readers, Like some of you may know I now have Female China Reader coming soon and the other winner was this Italy so here it is.
1: Image for cover art and above is what you can kind of look like if you so wish and I DO NOT OWN IT OR OWN HETALIA OR ANY COUNTRY
2: Italy will be a badass, really strong and take no prisoner types.
3: She is also not a flirt she may flirt at times but she most likely does not know she is even flirting.
4: She has long hair at least waist length.
5: She is very smart and a straight up master in the arts, not jut physical artwork but also plays, literature, and poetry.
6: She keeps her gender hidden aggressively as she does not want Germany (Holy Roman Empire) to find out. He was her first kiss.
7: The only four people who know her gender are Austria and Hungary and 2p China and 2p Japan.
(How they figured out (The 2p pair) Is up to you)
8: Austria and Hungary will NOT Be yandere as they are like parents to Reader and will be platonic yanderes at most no romance
9: She obviously will be hidden first because of war and then because of her choice.
10: Should Romano also know it would only make sense that he knew because that is HIS twin? Also I would find it amazing how he be super protective of her be ready for him to call everyone bastard XD
[Anyways I hope that you all enjoy and stay sexy all my friends!]
#yandere#yandere various#yandere hetalia#yandere 2p hetalia#hetalia#2p hetalia#2p hetalia x reader#hetalia x reader#various x reader#reader#italy reader#female italy
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ALRIGHT. So a while ago, I saw a gif set for Hazbin Hotel and went “oh no” because I’m always weak for a well dressed evil dude in a suit. Always. *looks at Bill Cipher and the Once-ler, even if the second was more misguided ignorance but he got to be in fandom so it still counts and Mr. Graves*
I was scared of getting obsessed so I decided to put off watching it.
Then my friend was like “You need to see this” and I was like “noooo, I don’t want to get obsessed” and his response was “..you’re going to be obsessed. I know you. XD” followed by a demand for reactions and well.
I promised I’d live blog watching it for him.
So let’s do this.
(Note: The show is definitely R rated. So keep that in mind if you want to watch. XD)
Hazbin Hotel
There is singing.
He mentioned that but I forgot already. XD
I love this animation already. I already did from the gifs I saw, but it looks so good.
Also you can’t go wrong with songs about Rainbows. Ever.
I love this main girl already.
Multi-armed dude is fun. I need to look up his voice. *pauses video* Okay, so that guy is Angel Dust and he’s voiced by Michael Kovach. Huh. His voice sounds super familiar but I haven’t seen anything else he’s in. XD
*leaves wiki open*
Talking eggs.
“I wish he’d shoot me with his ray gun.”
You and me both, little egg. *so weak for suits…and snakes* (But not really. I can’t look at I’m if I got hit by a ray gun. :P)
The character designs in this are really nice. It all looks like it goes together in the same universe, but there’s still so much variety and neat tricks like this man’s hair looking like a cobra’s hood.
I love Charlie.
LET HER SING.
Charlie’s so cute.
I love her.
But for real. LET HER SING.
Killjoy is fun.
The sound effects are good, too.
Vaggie is a sweetheart.
YES.
BLESS.
SONGS.
My mouth dropped.
I love the little goat servants.
And the little flashes of scary Charlie.
FANGS.
I could put this song on loop.
I knew they were all gonna’ boo and laugh because of story but I don’t believe it. That music number was too epic.
I love Tom, too.
Killjoy and Tom are still great. Great antagonists.
“Harder, Daddy~”
*gasp* “Son!?”
I think I might have died.
I’m dead.
I’m screaming.
Why is that so funny?
Also Angel Dust commenting on his sex jokes and the guy not getting it is kinda amazing.
Vaggie is gonna’ kill Angel Dust.
The faces Angel Dust makes are so good. I’ve said it a few times now, but the Animation in tis is SO GOOD. I love how fluid it is and everyone’s expressions. There’s so much life and style.
“Whatever pisses you off more.” is a bold response. Lol.
I already dislike Charlie’s mom.
And it’ll stay that way until we find out she’s dead or something and physically can’t answer.
There he is.
Alastor.
That voice is not what I was expecting.
The Radio Man.
I love him.
“Why does anyone do anything? Sheer. Absolute. Boredom.”
Lord, it’s happening.
Evil jack ass in a suit with a charismatic voice.
Every. Freaking. Time.
(Shark teeth don’t hurt either. Fangs. Always good.)
You know. He’s almost being so straight forward about his goals of watching other demons fail that I’m genuinely curious if that’s his real aim and he’s just the honest sort (which adds SO MANY BROWNIE points because Honest Villains are the Best Villains) or if it’s covering up something worse.
I’m shipping Vaggie and Angel Dust. They have that vitriolic best friends thing going on that I’m weak for. I need to see them bicker.
(Yes, I also think the canon couple of Vaggie and Charlie is cute and awesome. But I am a multi-shipper and nothing will change that. :D)
Also I can see myself OT4’ing this group. Lol.
Vaggie’s concern and love for Charlie is amazing though. She’s so protective, I love her.
And Charlie’s optimism balances her pessimism.
“You don’t take shit from other demons!”
I’m looking forward to seeing Charlie cut loose later.
DEALS.
There’s those Bill Cipher vibes. Love it. XD
That. Order.
Lord, I love Charlie.
Vaggie and Alastor are gonna’ throw down.
Alastor has tiny horns. I did not notice that. They’re so cute.
HIS TINY MINION.
“it really needs a lady’s touch, which is weird because you’re all ladies.” I love her. Lol.
Bless Husker already.
“Maybe.”
LORD.
Kill me now.
*lies on side and hugs Alastor*
HE HAS HOOVES ON THE BOTTOM OF HIS SHOES.
That’s such a nice design detail.
“We are keeping this.”
I CAN’T BREATHE I’M LAUGHING SO HARD.
I remember seeing Alastor x Charlie art when I glanced at the tag and I can see it.
Definitely OT4’ing this nonsense.
MORE SINGING.
I love this aesthetic.
THE SNAKE IS BACK.
(I need to look up his name. I keep missing it. lol.)
Aw.
I’m gonna’ miss him.
(I REALLY LIKED HIM. I brought this on him. My favs always die.)
And it’s over.
Conclusion: I REALLY LIKED It.
Damn. My friend does know me. XD
Edit: I WAS INFORMED THERE WAS AN AFTER CREDITS SCENE.
*watches*
THE SNAKE LIVES.
The show is now perfect. :D
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BTS Run 49 & 50 - The Jin Harem
This potato is back!
To make up for the lost week here’s an EXTRA long post that covers ep49 & 50!
Let’s Get it!
The incessant need for these 2 to be glued to each other’s side is a blessing to us all
Did they really have to lean into each other as they sat?
Yes, yes they did
Hobi sneakily touching Jin’s hand
You thought you were subtle but the camera still caught it~
2Seok lost in their own world
More like Hobi being lost in the food and Jin being lost in the pretty sight~
Ft. Cutie Jin’s sitting pose where his hands are on his knees which are together while his legs are apart~
Jin uwu-ing while admiring Hobi’s happy face
Hobi uwu-ing back at Jin
2Seok brings happiness
Despite sitting all the way at the opposite end, Chim somehow managed to engage Jin into the conversation
Chim even seemed to be gesturing towards Jin and set his sight on Jinnie~
Jinmin: The space between us doesn’t matter if we are still connected at heart
I laughed a little too hard at this
Jk being a brat and Jin letting him
Why are jinkook so precious?
Take note that there are plenty of food around but JK HAD to have the one Jin took a bite out of
HMMM I WONDER WHY
JK: Why eat when there’s a better use for those lips?
PROTECT THESE PUPPIES
Tae went to pass JK a glass and Jinnie thought Tae wanted to toast and brought his own glass towards Tae
But as Tae hands the glass to JK, Jin just toasts against Tae’s hand
XD HAHHAHAHA THIS MAN IS GREAT
During the actual toast, Jin’s glass only connects with Joonie’s
Sidenote: Their colored bowties make them look like comedians
Awww JK looking up to Jin
LITERALLY
NOTICE HIM ALREADY YOU FOOL!
the glass Jin is holding is actually JK’s!
He wanted to try the drink and when he was done, he put it back on the table between Yoongs and JK
But Jk shifted it back to the spot between Jin and himself
Perhaps he put it there so Jin could reach it easier if he wanted another taste?
Bangtan: The Manito Episode! JK: The Episode where Jin gave snacks as his gift!
The same episode but the associated memory is different...
Jk has a proper glass but his extra ass HAD to use the ceramic one he has...
This boy is a child
PROTECT HIM
WHAT DO YOU KNOW?
THERE’S ANOTHER CHILD BESIDE HIM!
I’m wondering if JK poured it to be a brat or for the sake of Jin...
Either way, it’s soft
It’s hard to tell who Jin was talking to as he mistakenly thought the ranking was talking about BV1...
Either way, it’s a Jinship moment
Hobi patting the slightly embarrassed Jin’s back
XD HAHAHA THIS FOOL GOT CONFUSED
Chim agreeing with Jinnie and pointing at him across the room
Distance is not enough to put a damper on Jinmin’s tenacity
YOU CAN BET YOUR ASS THAT IF IT WEREN’T FOR THEIR SITTING ARRANGEMENT, JINMIN WOULD HAVE HUGGED TF OUT OF EACH OTHER HERE
Jin being fond at the sight of a fumbling Yoongs
Bangtan reacting to Jin’s comedy
Jin loves Bangtan, Bangtan loves Jin
BTS is the ultimate jinship itself
SLY HOBI PUTTING HIS HAND ON THE WORLDWIDE SHOULDER
2Seok checking in with that skinship
They really zoom out to give us a full reaction bangtan gives when it’s Jin’s moment huh?
Ft. touchy Hobi back at it with his touchy hand~
Hobi’s hand is STILL on Jin’s shoulder
Jin hitting JK out of amusement
Touchy Jin, Touchy Hobi
AHh life is great
Jin was the only one who was super amused by Joon’s “ottogi”
I bet that isn’t the only amusing thing Jin finds about Joonie~
Ahhhh onions~
The namjin vege~
2SEOK BE GOING STRONG!!!
Touchy HOBI, BLESS YOU
Joonie quietly praising Jin’s absurd skill at the card game~
Jinnie being very amused by Tae and JK’s hilarious conversation mid-game
Jk looks proud~
Jin was VERY amused at Tae’s misfortune with the pottery
Jin you evil man, beware of a certain pup with iconic eyebrows that will be after your ass!
Hobi got the BEST position ever
Bless his hand that touched Jin
Bless his entire existence for gracing us with 2Seok and his amazing presence
Namjin imitating Yoonjin’s photo-zone fail
Staff: Who here ships Namjin? Namjin: *raises their hand* Vmin: Let’s just stuff our faces to forget the betrayal Yoongs: Hmph. Unbelievable Jk: BIIITCH WHAT? Hobi: Excuse you? What about 2Seok bitch? Jin: I ship all Jinships like an intellectual ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
???
It at least nice to see Jin can command Hobi and JK’s attention with just 1 finger
Touchy Hobi is just FEEDING us with all the 2seok now
Touchy Jin STRIKES AGAIN!
He hits Jk and JK doesn’t even respond
JK must be so used to this shit now XD
He even hits and rubs JK’s back when Tae was talking about the water park T^T
Bless Jin and his touchy hands
The understanding gazes between Namjin
Jin accurately guesses Joon’s distaste for Bungee Jumping with just 1 look~
What a dumb thing to expose
Don’t you know the production team will use that against you now?
The more you say you hate it, the more likely it is for them to use that as a future punishment...
Bangtan exposing themselves = Boo boo the fools
Ft. Jk paying attention to Jin and ONLY JIN
*inserts doo doo doo doo BGM*
STOP BEING SO DARN CUTE YOU TWO
First, they act all kiddish and then they suddenly pull this romantic ass crap
our weak hearts can’t keep up T^T
MORE PLEASE
HE CLOSED HIS EYES
TO SAVOUR THE SENSATION
FCCCCCK
JINKOOK BE AFTER OUR HEARTS
Did I say bangtan were boo boo the fools?
I was wrong
It’s us
Always has been, always will be
Jinnie grumbles about how his snack gift was thrown away by Hobi and Hobi protests XD
Awww I found it touching how Jin seemed GENUINELY TOUCHED by JK’s active nomming of his snacks
T^T his pouty lips and the head nods
T^T PROTECT THIS PURE MAN WHO JUST WANTS PEOPLE TO APPRECIATE HIS GAG GIFT
Hobi: Bitch really? In front of my salad?
(That’s right, it’s been a while but the salad meme is BACK)
Tae: Welp... I found a new target for Yeontan’s teeth Chim: *snickers* He thinks he can just touch MY man? *scoffs* be prepared to face my kicks Joon: I’m about to throw my fists Yoongs: Let’s see what this paper says! Oh it’s a certain Hoseok’s fortune! It says he is about to eat some punches thrown by yours truly! Jk: Bitch. How you dare, How you dare, How you dare!
This shows tht Jinkook was sharing their glass the whole time
and I bet a whole lot of indirect chuus happened...
Tae & Chim: *UNAMUSED ABOUT THE INDIRECT CHUUs* Joon: Really bitch? Yoongs: Can you believe those 2 shits? Hobi: Tell me about it. I’m the one sharing their love seat here...
Hobi flirting with Jin mid-award ceremony
WHO WILL BE THE WINNERS (to Jin’s heart)?
STAY TUNED
Lmao no, just read on XD for part 2 of this EXTRA long post~
Let’s begin the promised Part 2 of this post~
Let’s Get It!
Jinnie anticipates Joon’s nomination for the ‘Cute’ award...
So... You think he is cute enough for an award huh?
You’re not wrong...
But... you are also not being subtle
His amusement and Joy at seeing Joonie being nominated for ‘Best Physical’ Award
Jin: That’s right, that man’s body is A++
He could have also been teasing Joonie
Either ways, Namjin is great
Jinkook looking like identical copies
Ft. Broadass Jin making Jk look tiny in comparison
Jin cheering wholeheartedly for happy JK when he was announced as the ‘Best Physical’ Award winner!
Touchy!Jin strikes again!
We’ve missed you handsy Jin :’)
HAND ON THIGH!!!
*Screams*
HE GOES FOR THE WAIST AND BACK AFTER THE THIGH!!!
Hobi responds by reaching for Jin’s Worldwide Shoulder!
I feel like a sports commentator
Extreme! Shipping, it’s a sport
:’)))
Jin reaches for Hobi’s hand amidst their laughter
Sadly they were too excited to fully hold hands
Jin doesn’t give up and finally gets to hold Hobi’s wrist properly
I love 2seok
2Seok loves love
Love loves 2Seok
Jinkook + 2Seok
BLESS THIS FRAME
BLESS THIS SEATING ARRANGEMENT
BLESS JIN’s GENES
Jk: He’s mine~ Hobi: Excuse you! He’s MINE Jin: *sigh* it’s tough to be fabulous
Hobi, JK and Joon expressing their delight for MC Jin’s nomination!
MC JIN WAS FANTASTIC
HE DID SO GOOD!!
Hobi getting Handsy like always~
Hobi’s hand is on Jin’s thigh
I REPEAT HOBI’S HAND IS ON JIN’S THIGH
Jin is wrapping his hand around Hobi’s arm that is touching his thigh
PRAISE 2SEOK
It looked like they were gonna interlock their fingers!
If only they weren’t moving so much!
Jin doesn’t even let Hobi’s hand go...
:’)))
2Seok be doing the MOST
The softness in the way Jin looks at Hobi with his hands grabbing onto his knee
THE SOFTNESS THAT IS JIN ADMIRING HOBI TALKING
T^T
*ugly sobbing*
Jin looked towards Hobi upon hearing his name being called as the winner for the ‘MC’ Award!!
2Seok STOPPPP
MY HEART :”)
Jin actually turned to look at Yoongi immediately after Hobi hugs him
He probably thought Yoongi should have won the ‘MC’ award!
BUT YOONJIN IS SO URGHHH
Yoongi the gentleman APPROACHING JIN TO HUG HIM
YOONJIN :’))))
Jinnie escorting Yoongi, the RIGHT ‘MC’ Award winner to get his award
Joonie sneaking in some skinship with Jin with his back patting of consolment
PARK JIMIN YOU CRUEL MAN
CUTE MY ASS (kidding you’re still cute but you’re the evil cutie)
It was sooooo bratty to play that trick on Jinnie!
Poor Jinnie was so happy when he thought he won...
:(((
Chim better have hugged Jin to make up for it
Chim you are boo boo the fool
IF you wanted Jin’s attention, maybe don’t be so cruel and mean to him?
2Seok are just being too much right now...
WHEN WILL YOU LEARN THAT YOUR ACTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES?!!
Tae: That ass tho.... *licks lips* Joon: That muscle punk is blocking my view of the JinBooty! Jk: Awww YEAHHHH A+ view 2Seok: *can I have this dance plays in the background*
Jk and Hobi calling out Jimin for being mean
CALL THAT PUNK OUT
ISTG JIMIN BETTER HAVE BACKHUGGED THE SADNESS OUT OF JIN AFTER THE BS HE PULLED
I DEMAND A JINMIN BACKHUG AS COMPENSATION FOR MAKING JINNIE SAD
Jk the sweet child using the chance to sneak his hand towards his favourite place: Jin’s neck
Jk’s neck kink is once again proven
STOP FLIRTING FFS
(please don’t)
Flower!Jin~
2Seok reaching for each other when Hobi was nominated for the ‘Acting’ Award!
THey are so adorable with each other
(Low key confused why Jin wasn’t nominated too... Guess the crew for Bts Run has bad tastes and only thinks of reducing Jin’s efforts and talents and give him a totally predictable and no-thought-put-into-whatsoever cooking award)
‘Cooking’ Award - we all know the rightful winner
Bangtan knows it too
But couldn’t the crew have put more effort into a different award?
Even Jin was disappointed with it
(¬_¬)
The members all tried hard to hype it up by praising him and saying its an important award
But BTS Run staff... Really? Seriously? All that effort and creativity but you give Jin the ‘Cooking’ Award? (¬_¬)
Maybe try stopping with this ‘reducing Jin as only a cook/carer’ thing you guys have been doing and see his Variety sense and recognise it for once
(¬_¬)
Awww Chim must have felt bad for being insensitive to Jin the whole time
:’)))
You could tell he felt guilty XD
Just give him a hug and all will be good Chim!
Jinnie staying positive (we know he always does :’( ) and cheering Hobi on and hyping him for the same nomination~
How many times have 2Seok hugged? XD
Yoongi reaching to shake Jinnie’s hand like the gentleman he is~
Jinkook hug~
Ft. Hobi’s lingering hand on Jin~
2Seok will be the death of us this episode
Flower!Jin receiving flowers from another handsome man, Tae
:’)))
The bright way Hobi looks at Jin
SUPPORTIVE 2SEOK!!!
Tae and Chim knows what’s good looking too
Jin: *announcing his choice out of the 3 bachelors* JIMIN-SSHI! Tae: *looks into the camera like in The Office* So THIS is what betrayal feels like... Chim: ME?!! *GASP* Joon: DAFUQ? I WAS A SHOO-IN!
Tae: *still in his Top 10 anime betrayal mode* Chim: THIS BITCH PLAYED ME AND I GLADLY LET HIM Joon: Imma just turn away from the losers
Jin HAD to be petty and get his revenge on Chim huh?
Well, petty man, NO Chim HUGS for you :<
Namjin + Flowers = Good combi
2Seok just keeps going
just keeeeeeeep on going
Really 2Seok is too much
Our weak hearts are suffering from the QUALITY MOMENTS
THANK YOU
aaand they are back to being goofballs that we love and know them for
Jinnie sneaking a glance at Joonie at their nomination for ‘Best Chemistry’ Award
(Low key though, Joon’s face and Jin’s face froze for a little...)
Tae seems to be enjoying the Namjin though
2Seok, stop giving us diabetes with your sweetness and touchiness XD
WHen the staff was reading out why they gave all 3 combis the award, Joonie was just looking at his fellow nominee
Jin, however, was busy making his harem and was flirting with Chim across the room
These 2 XD Distance really doesn’t mean a thing for them~
Hobi nudges Jin to try to get his attention away from Chim~
...
Tell me it wasn’t just me that found it off
...
...
?
Chim’s slight smile as he makes eye contact with Jin
Joonie’s odd expression and tone...
I’m sensing something...
Jinnie being a kid
But... why was Joon looking at him like that?
*Theory brewing...stay tuned to find out*
Tae being adorable and matching with Jin’s kiddy actions~
Jk snickering in the corner...
Does he know something we don’t???
Jin requests Joon to hold his hand...
But Joonie pulls his hand away so quickly!
...
JK: Kids, this is why you don’t jerk off right before you have to film Hobi: STFU you are the only kid here Jimin: HAHA Hyung got caught doing the nasty Yoongs: Gross... Tae: Stop pretending to be saints y’all bunch of nasties Jin: I’m taking that you are not accepting my request to hold hands because you didn’t wash your hands... That’s disgusting Joon... Joon: BITch stop accusing me. I JUST DON’T WANT TO HOLD YOUR HAND OK?! Bangtan: Who would want to hold hands with the person who caught them rubbing one out while calling their name? Not Joon. Joon: STFU Y’ALL ARE LYING
In case you guys didn’t realize, I am just joking
But yea There was some tension there but my nasty mind goes to someone being caught jerking off by someone else and thus awkwardness ensues~
Feel free to use this to write a fic!
Matching shocked!Namjin
HAHHAHHAHAH
THeir reactions were HILARIOUS
HOBIIII HHAHAHAHAHH
FCCCCKKK
*Save me Save me*
Joon: *wants to fight the confetti pt.1* Chim+Tae: * Enjoying the pretty streamers* Yoongs: *Having a mild heart attack* Jk: *enjoying himself* Jin: *caught in the middle of an earthquake* Hobi: *wants to fight the confetti pt.2*
Yea sure Hobi, wrap Jinnie up and tie him up
Not inappropriate at all
Hobi’s got his hands firmly wrapped around Jin’s waist
Yoongi has his arm around Jin’s Worldwide shoulder and Jin holds on tight to Tae’s arm~
Tae: Another member who is trying to wrap Jin up and tie him up
Inappropriate no.2
Hobi+Chim+Joon: *glaring at Tae’s audacity*
Well, aren’t you a little close, Sir?
Yoongs softly smiling at how Tae is wrapping jin with the streamer~
Jinkook is that touchy couple that will insist they DO NOT engage in PDA put pulls stunts like this
Jk isn’t even trying to hide his neck kink with Jin anymore
Fetus!Bangtan!!!
2Seok was already strong back then huh?
The way he looks at Jin...
WHO IS CHOPPING ONIONS HUH?!
2Seok is the main pairing for this episode
HANDS DOWN THE TOUCHIEST AND SWEETEST PAIR THIS EPISODE
Edit:
TOUCHY JIN GROPES JK’s BUTT
Can’t believe I was distracted by all the 2Seok that I missed this
Thank you to the kind user who pointed this out in the comments section!!
-Edit end-
Jinkook + Shoulder + Neck + Shiba Jin + Headband Jin
*dead*
CHILDREN
FFS XD
Jin’s uwu though
:’)))
Jinmin are happy bubs that are glad to be on the same team~
Bunny!Jinmin~
Ft. Jin nudging Chim in the arm with his fingers~
THE FLUFFINESS AND CUTENESS
GAHH
If only they put the mike fuzz on their butt to make it look ike a fuzzy bunny tail...
Top 10 Anime betrayals
When Jin lied about being unable to blow a bubble with gum
Joonie look so upset XD
HUG HIM TO CHEER HIM UP JIN!
Bunny!Jinmin abandons their animal friends and goes off to enjoy their time at the amusement park~
PHEW THAT WAS A LONGASS POST
Hope you guys enjoyed it!
Until Next Time~
#jinkook#yoonjin#Namjin#jinmin#taejin#2seok#bts incorrect quotes#bts reactions#bts imagines#bts scenarios#bts run#jinship#jin harem#seokjin#jin#namjoon#rm#rap monster#yoongi#suga#hoseok#jhope#taehyung#v#jimin#jungkook#bts#bangtan
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Thoughts on the Soulmate Trope
Here are some of my thoughts, notes & tips on writing the soulmates trope. (clearly, I’ve been thinking about writing my own soulmate fic someday and how I want to do it)
It’s also pretty clear that I went a bit overboard with my thoughts. So since that’s the case I thought I’d share. Below are soulmate ‘quirks’, my thoughts on them, and ‘roadblocks’ followed by a general example and some ranting.
Enjoy!
Quirks: (These are mostly just the ones I can remember other people using.)
- writing on your skin shows up on your soulmate too.
This is basically just a pen pals trope. XD
-dream sharing
Always a fun one, but it takes a lot of creativity to be pulled off really well IMO.
-sharing/splitting injuries
almost a surefire hurt/comfort fic if you use this one, but some people use it like the ‘writing on your skin’ quirk and just hint at the connection with bruises and small cuts.
-telepathy
(especially in moments of physical or mental weakness)
-seeing something about the other that no one else can see
It could be anything from a weird/supernatural physical trait, (pointed ears/ fangs/ weird eye color/ mysterious tattoo, etc) to something even stranger (tiny spirits that follow people around, each others aura, flashes of who they used to be in a past life) whatever appeals to you and your story.
-shared birthmarks / soulmarks
Oh man soulmarks, it’s like one of the most popular quirks in the trope. And it’s really versatile too! For example, the position of the mark could indicate the kind of relationship it will be (ex: over the heart = true love, on the hand = steadfastness and resolve)
And a lot of the time the mark is a clue toward who the other person is. it’s a great opportunity for symbolism in a story. Or you could just straight up make the soulmarks be each other’s NAMES, there are a billion ways you could play it.
-first touch/ eye contact triggers intense mental or physical reaction
(usually feelings of love coming from a past life or some sort of future nostalgia’?’) this is sort of the bread and butter quirk of the trope. Its main issue is that it makes for a SUPER short fic if the two people just fall in love at first sight/touch with no hijinx involved. But I’ve also seen it effectively mixed with quirks like shared emotions, telepathy, and dream sharing so it all depends on how you use it I guess.
-shared emotions/sensations
(intense anger, sadness, joy, pain, pleasure, etc)( intensity can likely be controlled or varies based on the situation) this is a fun one if you’re writing smut for sure, but it's interesting to play with all around too. It basically means every stressful/amazing moment gets shared with the other person and with a supportive couple that’s going to get you far in the fluff & hurt/comfort camps.
-intense need to be near each other
(can compel one or both to drop what they are doing and go to each other, especially in times of distress.)
the weird thing about this one is that I’ve seen it used alongside all sorts of other quirks, and it totally works. Like if one character gets hit by a car in a soulmates fic it's almost guaranteed that this quirk is going to hit the other person like a freight train for no good reason and they are RUNNING to the scene of the accident/hospital.
But it’s sort of unsurprising that it works considering the fact that the whole point of the soulmates trope is that the characters share a weird magical/spiritual bond.
- soulmates can hear each other sing no matter how far apart they are
I’ve seen this one before in a MLB fic and it was cute/silly as HELL. I firmly encourage more inventive and oddly specific quirks like this to fatten up the trope.
-the ability to share what the other is seeing and/or hearing.
(If it’s at will then it probably requires concentration for a clear picture/sound)
I’ve seen this one in movies and it’s pretty cool! But a lot of what’s makes it work is the story going on around them and not the romance itself. I’m not saying to neglect the romance but if you use this quirk you’d better have a super good story to go along with it because this one is all about how the character’s share their lives and situations with each other. If you don’t make those lives interesting then the quirk is wasted. But that’s just my opinion.
With soulmate AU’s you could have it so that everyone has the same quirk or You could mix it up and use all of them (In that instance, I would make some of these more common than others. ex: writing on the skin= rare, birth/soulmarks = semi-rare, first touch/ eye contact = common.) OR you could even make it so that nobody really knows about or believes in soulmates and make your couple an oddity.
Either way, the point of the soulmate trope is that the side effect of the bond helps lead the couple together. But if you make it too easy then the relationship won’t feel genuine or earned.
Typically, you have one character who is cautiously hopeful about finding and falling for their soulmate (or is extremely eager about meeting their soulmate. See below.)
And the other character has hit some sort of roadblock that has to be overcome.
But they could both have their own issues on dating their soulmate too. It’s all up to the type of characters you're portraying and their circumstances.
Common soulmate roadblocks:
-not everyone HAS a soulmate or theirs died before they could meet and someone that doesn't have one gets jealous and tries to separate the couple.
-one of them is confused by the bond’s clues and think its leading them to someone else.
-one of them thinks the bond is wrong or that they've over thought it because they don't initially approve of their chosen partner / think their partner is too good for them /etc.
-the bond’s side effect gets in the way of their everyday life and they come to resent the other person regardless of if it's their fault or not.
-one of the characters flat out disapproves of their partner being ‘chosen for them’ regardless of who it is.
-one of them (or possibly a family member/friend) is WAY too eager about the soulmate thing and puts pressure on the other person to start a romantic relationship with their partner asap and ends up scaring them away.
-regardless of the bond they still don't find each other for years or were looking in the wrong places. (likely only find one another after they've given up) (god I hate this one, it's so sad)
-one of them gives up on finding their soulmate and goes out with someone else (only to find them during or after the breakup stages) (not fond of this one either)
-saw/ heard about a soulmate bond that should have been platonic turn romantic and then go up in flames.
-knew someone who's soulmate died and doesn't want to go through all that pain someday.
I suggest choosing at least two to make a more complex relationship that will feel earned. But you should do way more if you’re writing a multi-chapter fic. Just remember to stay consistent with the character’s situation and reasoning, and try not to overcompensate with roadblocks.
Example:
The setting is an Au where everyone knows their soulmate via soulmarks
Character A (female) wants to have a relationship with their SM and has a mark of a black fox on her shoulder.
Character B (male) disapproves of their partner being ‘chosen for them’ regardless of who it is. This is probably compacted by the embarrassing fact that he has a pink butterfly on his shoulder. This has affected his day to day life and he resents his SM for it.
When they meet B see’s A’s fox soulmark (because she’s purposely showing it off so she can find her SM.) But he keeps his hidden.
B tries to avoid A but can’t completely. A does/says something endearing and B’s walls come down a little and they get to know each other. B starts falling for A.
From there you can go a bunch of different ways. You can end the story there by having A do/say something that makes B fall completely in love, reveal his soulmark and admit to his feelings, OR you can drag out the roadblocks you have by making B unwilling to admit to anything and have him agonize over it a while longer.
Adding roadblocks at this point is okay too.
Maybe A finds out B hid his soulmark from her and didn’t originally want to be with her and gets offended. Or Maybe A’s family is WAY too eager about the soulmate thing and ends up spooking B away again. Or you can add a jealous coworker or friend to try and sabotage the relationship and have B get jealous/ protective.
Just bear in mind that their mental states have already been covered in this example so you shouldn’t make any more mental roadblocks. Making B suddenly cut off A after they’ve gotten close because he knew someone who's soulmate died and he’s totally traumatized doesn’t make sense. Either lay out all the emotional issues at the start or keep quiet about them and lay it out later to make it a surprise. Don’t just ADD emotional issues into the mix randomly.
On the same note, I think other kinds of roadblocks get more leeway. Just don't constantly tease the reader with potential relationship development and then have some event or drama just as constantly interrupt/ruin it. People WANT to see the couple get closer. Don't drag out the story just because you can, you have to make it flow naturally. (but I feel like that should go without saying)
#wow its like i wrote a paper for class or something#what the heck happened#clearly this has been on my mind a lot lately#I should clearly just write up a soulmates fic and get it over with#soulmates#ramble#advice#writing#i dont know what the fuck im talking about dontlistentome#rant#this was weirdly fun to write
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With young justice now on Australian Netflix (and with as many jokes I crack about it not being on American Netflix, I sincerely hope it goes back up really soon), it got me thinking about the list of what I love so much about young justice.
Said list is literally 8 miles long, but I’ll talk about one thing I haven’t seen anyone else mention so far, and one thing I love:
Young Justice never assumes it’s audience needs things dumbed down for them. Despite its PG rating, YJ deals with some pretty heavy stuff - abusive families, political mess-ups, public images and how they can be manipulated, origins of a person versus their intents to do good, morally grey characters who have the right idea and are understandable but ultimately go about it the wrong way, children playing the part of soldiers, heavy crime, orphans and what that experience is like, psychological and physical trauma and the effects of that, to name a few. The issues in it are complex and multi-layered, with sometimes no clear answer, and often having multiple characters take multiple viewpoints.
And I remember when watching it for the first time in early 2016 (sue me I’m late to the party XD), never once did I feel like this was a show created to dumb-down the issues it explored for a younger audience. Granted I was 16 at the time, but my point stands.
Young Justice explores its issues, its stories, its characters in an amazing amount of depth and respect towards the complicated situations it deals with. Not to say any of the characters are actively pitted to have ‘sad backstories’ for the sake of drama, but what does come up is dealt with in an honest and respectful way that doesn’t sugar-coat the complexities of it. Things like a dictatorship, public appearances of heroes and villains, political coups and child abuse are looked at, in a respectful way that not only shows the issue but works through it so the story and characters all learn and recover from them. Nothing is left out or glossed over because it’s ‘too mature’ for the audience, rather, its explained in a way that makes the situation understandable, so that the audience will have an idea of what’s going on in the context of the story without necessarily needing to know everything about the real-world context it’s drawn from.
This is something I find incredibly important and beautiful to see, because these days a lot of children-directed shows and films are increasingly simple and ‘dumbed-down’. Not all of them are, there are masterpieces out there that manage to do what YJ does in terms of their own stories. But to me, personally, it seems a certain attitude has happened in terms of what kids ‘are’ and ‘aren’t allowed to understand in their own media - there seems to be this idea that kids are simply too young and innocent to understand things like ‘death’ and ‘politics’ and ‘sexuality’ and what being manipulated is or looks like. ((keep in mind this is in my own personal experience, this isn’t to speak for everyone)). And yes, those are rather weighted issues, with a lot of history and different points to them that require a certain degree of patience and critical analysis to understand properly. But that’s not to say kids can’t understand certain aspects of them.
This idea is bad because it not only underestimates the intelligence of children (and kids are ridiculously smart ok, I’m convinced they’re getting smarter every generation) but also disadvantages them in having a voice about anything intellectual or observational. If you tell a child they can’t possibly know something they’re trying to tell you they know because they’re ‘too young’, you set them up to think they’re faking it the whole time, and encouraging them to stay quiet and silent about matters which might be important to them. This could have really damaging effects if a child experiences something like abuse or manipulation, and they know it’s wrong and feels wrong - but because a trusted adult thinks they’re too young to really know what it is, they can be discouraged from talking about it, which helps silence their voice and can make them an easier target for potential predators.
This is why I adore YJ so much - it NEVER glosses over the effects of something, and perhaps those effects are made even more powerful by the fact that the entire main cast is, predominantly, children themselves. There’s something very powerful about seeing kids, super-powered as they may be, deal with issues that ultimately affect everyone, and written to do so in a way that’s respectful of their situations and experiences, in a way that gives children a voice to their thoughts if they feel they have been affected by these things too.
Take the episodes ‘Failsafe’ and ‘Disordered’ (episodes 16-17 in s1). The entire team is placed into an ‘all-or-nothing’ scenario, where the choices are a retreat and let the world get taken over, or die trying to save it. The situation is ripped out of control by M’gann, plunging them all into a seemingly endless spiral of destruction and death - and they’re all ranging in age from 13-17 at this point. Things go wrong, and nearly everyone dies, till J’onn stops M’gann from her fear-induced nightmare spiral, and understandably, she’s heartbroken that she’s done this. This episode, while terrifyingly sad and depressing, is good because it looks at the issue of the ‘child soldiers’ that the team essentially is, and the lengths they are expected to go to to protect the earth should the Justice League fail. While not explicitly done so, it raises questions about the ethics of the team’s situation and also questions about how they see themselves within the context of their roles - as well as the question of ‘what happens if they’re just not enough?’
The entire next episode is devoted to them dealing with the trauma of that experience. We see different sides come out in all of them - Artemis’s stoic refusal to admit she may need help, even if she acknowledges that that simple fact isn’t weakness, revealing a fierce desperation to prove herself; Wally’s attempt to just brush it all off and ignore what pain may be happening, which reveals a certain level of insecurity about his pain; M’gann’s absolute terror at herself and foreshadowing of her self-hatred and desperation to hide her true self from everyone (’canary: you’ve... gone white! / m’gann: what?! ...oh, you meant caucasian...’); kaldur’s deep concern about his own actions in the heat of battle, which brings up questons of whether he’s the right choice to lead the team simply because he’s the oldest, which in turn brings up major concerns about anyone else being the leader, especially dick being so young; conner’s realisation about his purpose as a clone and the threats to everything this brings, not to mention the fact he comes to terms with his emotions about this and seeks professional help; dick’s stark horror at realising just how ruthless batman, his father-figure, saviour and mentor, can be, and the fact that he’ll be expected to follow those footsteps.
This is all in TWO EPISODES. Granted, these episodes are heavier than most, but that’s not to say any episode is ever pointless fluff. Every single episode of YJ is like this to some extent, and deals with similar issues in exactly the same respectful and fully-articulated way.
If nothing else, Young Justice proved to me that kid’s shows can be complex and deal with the same issues that adults face, with the same amount of respect and attention - all while still ultimately being hopeful, and focused on the beauty of teamwork and friendship and working together, and more than anything, being honest and trusting each other.
TLRD; Young Justice is an amazingly complex show that never ever feels the need to make its content ‘dumber’ so its audience can understand it because it knows they can, and works to help them understand more.
#young justice#catfish speaks#this took me an HOUR to write goddam#the real tldr is that YJ is fuckin amazing and i have a countless number of feelings about it#hfj;ksdglf;hyugf i hekcin love this show so much#i have so many points about it jesus christ#i keep thinking about what a masterpiece it is and how amazing it is in every way#and just shjfgjrfke5qlcgf i have like 8 more of these post ideas in my head sorryyy#long post#whoop whoop this is relevant
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2017.07.07 Minoru Review!
I got to see my Hiroki again a few weeks back and unfortunately this one will not being making it to DVD and I could only go and see it once (but from the front row because it was free seating, not set), but I thoroughly enjoyed it and it left a lot to think about later.
Cast/Characters
Saito Kenshin as Kirishima Minoru Yamamoto Mayu as Matsumoto Natsumi Akaba Mio as Morita Minoru Tanaka Hiroki as Takimoto Minoru Kagotani Kazuki as Ishimura Minoru Hasui Yuuma as Sekido Minoru Uta Aoto as Akagawa Minoru Megane as Sato Minoru Adachi Yuna Arisa Toda Reina Hayashi Chinami Hamano Atsushi Tamimoto Shouko
Story:
Kirishima Minoru wakes up in a room one day full of other Minorus. Turns out they all died and now have a chance to either live another Minoru’s life or to relive their own. So one by one they talk about their lives and decide who’s life they’ll take next. Naturally, none of them had easy lives and all of them have a few scars (either physically or mentally). It raises lots of good questions like: if you redid your life, would you do it differently? Would you be happy if you had another’s life? If you could live another’s life, would you, and what kind of life would you want?
Stage:
The seating was split into two parts with the stage smack bang in the middle of the room. The area I sat on was about 4 rows and raised up a step per row. The other area was up some stairs and about three rows, raised one step per row. The actors would come out from behind that section and down the stairs into the stage.
The total run time was 1 hour 45 minutes with time after for talking to the actors and chekis/polaroid pictures.
Review:
I want to talk about The Characters a little first.
Kirishima Minoru is our main character (and is a cutie!) and turns out his life was DARK. He was abused by his father, as well as his mother, and one day he has enough and kills his father. His mother puts the blame on herself so her son can have a life but it means she’s in prison for most of his life. He finally meets someone who he falls in love with, Matsumoto Natsumi, and wants to marry. Luckily it all goes okay with her father too but there’s a scene where he asks his daughter ‘did you tell him?’ and Natsumi replies ‘not yet’. Turns out she’s dying, and there’s this beautiful scene where they carry her in one of those patient beds as she apologies to Minoru and that she’s loves him etc.
Then we have the high school delinquent/yankee: Morita Minoru. Naturally when they all first meet he’s very forward going and very aggressive but very soon he shows his true colours and how weak and sensitive he is. Especially when Takimoto figures out Morita has an older brother (who he looks exactly like except the older brother wore glasses and wasn’t a yankee) who Takimoto used to date(?) -- He definitely implied that they dated. Morita’s sad story is that his brother committed suicide after it came put that he was gay and couldn’t cope people abandoning him. Morita loved his brother a lot. I’ll get to it later but this scene is amazing.
And now onto Takimoto Minoru who is very unapologetically gay and while being gay gave him a hard life, he’s not embarrassed to say and show who he is. He talks about how he was super, super popular with the girls growing up and all of them wanted to date him but deep downside he always liked boys so never dated any of them. And then he met Takimoto’s older brother who was also gay and they formed this great friend/relationship. But one day, he committed suicide and was gone.
Ishimura Minoru has a sad back story. When he son was about 6/7 years old, his wife got very sick and died of cancer and the doctor who attended to him was Sato Minoru. It’s such a sad scene that definitely got me crying the most.
Sekido Minoru is known as the ‘Normal Guy’ his entire life is completely normal. Normal family, normal upbringing, naturally went to school, then university and finally got a job at an office. He naturally found someone he wanted to marry, and she was attracted to him by how normal he was. So they get get married and get pregnant and then... she loses the baby. It also leaves her very infertile and this crushes her. She just wanted a normal life. But here’s the thing; Sekido hates how normal his life is so he finds the positivity at the end where she says ‘I just wanted a normal life. I just wanted a baby and a happy life’ and he says ‘well we’re not normal anymore... having a baby is not normal anymore. It’ll be special.. it’s now special for us if we have a baby’ and somehow they get happy again.
Akagawa Minoru is the hikkikomori (the shut in) of the group. He doesn’t really care for anything, doesn’t really want to do anything and just spends his time alone and in his room and doesn’t really have any emotional feelings for anything.
Last we have Sato Minoru who was/is a doctor. Al he ever wanted to be as a kid was a super hero so he decided to be a doctor but soon learnt that being a doctor is more stressful and heartbreaking than he imagined. All he sees is death and cannot see the glimpses of hope coming fro being a doctor when he saves someone. He mentions how he remembers the first patient he ever lost and that he’s been counting how many he’s lost. A doctor isn’t the type of super hero he wanted to be.
Now onto Scenes and Opinions etc.
Of course I cried at this! This was overall not a happy play but having said that it also had light, comedy moments and scenes of hope and is quite uplifting but in terms of the crap the characters went through; it’s dark.
Especially when we watched the mother slowly dying of cancer. It’s just this one spotlight on the mother and we see her happy when she first finds out she has cancer and then slowly the light gets dimmer and we see her start to slum and lose energy and her movements get slower and her face drops into a straight face. It was super sad to see that development.
And of COURSE Hiroki-kun was playing a gay character!! I almost died laughing when he said it. OF COURSE!! I wouldn’t expect anything else from him. This is the 3rd time he’s played an openly gay character and I’ve always assumed he was gay anyway and after this play he wrote on his blog something like ‘to be able to play a character with the same sexuality as me’ (I could’ve read it wrong but) so I was like ‘I knew it! And please keep playing gay characters!” because he plays them so perfectly and he’s not embarrassed to do kiss scenes and stuff which takes balls! I really loved his performance in this too <3
The Normal guy is cute! So was Kirishima, and of course my Hiroki was totally cute(!).
Coming down the stairs to the theatre, I noticed that the actress Yamamoto had flowers everywhere, and now I know why. She's a VERY good actor, and is very cute!!
The comedy was very well done! And there was some bad English too which made everyone, especially me, crack up. I think it was the doctor and he’s just like (in English) ‘I CANT STOP-ING’ I died laughing. And of course I laughed at ALL the Dajare because I LOVED dajare! It was with Kirishima and Natsumi when she confesses her love to him and she’s like ‘KOI!....COME!!! == It’s love! Come here!’ If you don’t know Japanese, you’re not going to find the Koi/Come funny, sorry...
Also, I really liked how they all came in and I like how they all stayed on stage for such a long time and watched each other's stories and such. Kudos on their behalf for being able to do massive chunks on stage at a time and not mess up.
AND! How their stories are all connected was really cool too! I love how the Morita and Takimoto are connected through the brother, and how Sato and Sekido, Sato and Ishimura were connected too.
Speaking of Morita and Takimoto, their scene is so good! So Takimoto looks at Morita strange, and Morita being a bit put off him because he’s gay backs away, and Takimoto take’s Sato’s glasses and places them on Morita; that’s when he figures out he knows Morita’s older brother. This causes Morita to break down and cry about how painful it was to lose hos brother and how he committed suicide because he couldn’t accept he was gay and Takimoto talks about how much he loved his brother and was also heart broken when he died. And all this was RIGHT in front of my eyes, I was literally less than 30cm away from them two as this scene played out and I was part in heart pain and tears because it’s a heartbreaking scene, but I also had heart going 200000 times an hour because Hiroki was doing this intense scene RIGHT in front of me, my heart couldn’t take all the hotness xD
And all the cuties!!
In the end, they all agree that they don’t want to switch with another’s life and they see the goodness and happy moments in their life and that they want to redo their lives over, instead of switching.
The ending is a little bit of a twist though. We see Kirishima finally meet his mother after like 15/16 years of her being in prison and they’re super happy to see one another but Kirishima’s says ‘I’m not the Minoru you know’. The scene then changes to Kirishima and Natsumi and it’s Natsumi admitting that she kept a secret from him about her illness and that she’s dying and Kirishima is like ‘I don’t want you to die!!’ and she’s fully accepted she’s going to die and tells him to live a happy life and to not be scared and finally meet his mother, but he can’t take it; so in the end he decides to switch bodies with her; he dies in Natsumi’s body and Natsumi lives on in Kirishima’s body. And the stage ends there. I was totally blown away that they kept that massive reveal until right at the very end! Such a good ‘oh my god!!’ moment.
This was a really good play and I am not doing it justice and it’s a shame it didn’t get a DVD. Maybe they’ll do a rerun of it next year with the same cast or something. I wish I could’ve seen it two or three more times.
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Cheki Time!
Guuuuuys!! Hiroki's so adorable! I say this everytime but seriously he is!! First we took our cheki and then asked if he would take my letter which he said he will (of course).
AND(!) he knew where I was sitting, during the cheki time he was like ‘ バッチリいましたね/ You were right there weren’t you!’ He asked if it was difficult for me to understand and I said ‘no. Even through the feelings I could get it’ -- I didn't think it was difficult to understand!! Why did I say that?!?! Ugh nerves!!
Then he told me to come to Rabo Vol.5 because there's a lot of talking and he's always happy to read my letters and my tweets. And we had the awkward hand shake *just let me bash my head in*
At the end I said 'get home safe / 気をつけて帰ってください' and he said thank you. Then as I walked away, he grabbed my shoulder and was like 'you get home safe too!! / お姉様も気をつけて帰ってください!' . Looks like we both get just as nervous as each other when it comes to these things.
He’s so adorable.
Okay I’m good. Done!
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hello! i know it's a bad idea to engage in any shipping discourse but for the sake of constructive criticism, i asked an sns shipper if she thinks there's atleast potential in ss if ever sakura had that capacity to stand up to sasuke and if she wasn't as much fixated on him during shipuuden and the war arc. i even brought up the wasted opportunity of sasuke vs sakura that was shown in the game. the sns shipper gave a very structured and well-versed answer and i do agree with some of her points. i'm not even anti-sns and i understand the support this ship gets. but this person really hates sakura. so her answer to my question if ss has potential is straight up NO. hate is an understatement. she explicitly said she DETESTS sakura and ss xD. granted, her hatred is valid since sakura's writing is very flawed and inconsistent. what i didn't like was when she said why am i trying to change sakura's personality (her standing up to sasuke whether physically or verbally) when "she's constantly on heat when he's around". gosh, i really wanted to retaliate here and say it's called freakin character development. i mean, that's what she's mainly hated for right? the fact that she's obsessed and a pushover when it comes to sasuke. having that change especially during the war arc doesn't mean she's out of character, it means development. but gah, sakura haters are really hard to argue with so i just stayed silent.
to briefly summarize, her main point of argumentation is that sakura was toxic to both naruto and sasuke. sasuke's relationship with naruto is more defined than whatever he had with sakura. she brought up ss's pt.1 moments and said that sasuke would do the same to naruto, if not even better. as for naruto's case, sakura was a mean bitch and was so unfair to him throughout the series. simply put, even if sns has questionable elements, they are more organic and healthy than sasusaku.
this got me thinking. between sasunarusasu and sasusaku, despite both having toxic elements, i think the reason why there are relatively more sns shippers is because there's balance. compared to sakura, sasuke has shown more consideration towards naruto and we all know naruto cares for sasuke just as much and he isn't afraid to stand up to this guy.
idk what i'm even trying to ask here. i guess i'm just ranting lol. i've always seen your comments in youtube vids defending sakura and ss and i know you have an extensive knowledge of the naruto manga in general. you could only imagine how shocked i am when i found out you're a male. it's really rare to find someone like you. :)
anyways, i just feel so disappointed and pressed lmao. ss shippers couldn't catch a break from haters. like yea, some of us know it has shit writing in the canon and explanations regarding their relationship in the series is very limited. i already accepted the fact that they are underdeveloped and was borderline toxic. but then, between kishimoto's pitiful inability to write female characters properly and SP's biased treatment towards sasusaku plus the manga's main narrative focusing on naruto and sasuke, i just feel like it's kinda unfair for antis to shit on ss shippers when in reality, most of us just hold onto it because of nostalgia. most sasusaku shippers came to be when they were very young. i even found comments saying they started shipping them when they were 6 or 7. in my case, i was 12 lol.
it's kinda unfair since sns has the upperhand bcoz the series is mainly about them. naruhina has retcons and SP and what does ss have? small pt.1 moments, headcanons, fanons and to top it off SP's biased ass shitting on it. the ss fandom isn't perfect and has its fair share of immature stans as well, but i'm still glad that didn't stop authors and artists from making content. ss has got some of the best fanfictions, fanarts and doujinshis. i just wished antis won't attack them as much.
anyways, i'm not even asking a specific question. i just ranted. i just needed to get this out of my system. sorry for that 😅
Hey! It's been a long while since I got asks like this lol! Once tumblr went all anti-nsfw a few years ago, we all kinda migrated to Twitter for our SS/Anime cravings tbh but I'm glad and flattered you decided to ask me on my thoughts! :)
I won't write long as again, tbh, I'm kinda retired from debating/arguing with antis on things of SS/Naruto/Etc (unless I'm simply too triggered to let it go lol. You've already probably seen my long Sakura video so I won't go too much into details of what I already covered with Sakura's character. But to answer you, I'll keep it to the point.
It's ok of course to say Kishi's writing is flawed, I mean he is human and we know Naruto has holes. Every manga/story does of course. When it comes to SS, I personally bring it to this: Sasuke and Naruto's relationship is NOT Sasuke and Sakura's relationship. And that's (imo) ok. Sasuke and Naruto obviously have a bond only they have. Both lonely and orphaned, rivals with each other, haters to brother, you know it all. But Sakura is different. She's simply a normal, head-strong and caring girl. Kishi wanted to write a normal girl, and he did a darn well good job, because just like normal girls (or people in general), they're imperfect. That's why she first appealed to me.
Anyway, to the point, SS is pretty easy to follow. Sakura likes Sasuke....what's the problem? Where's the toxicity, lol. Sure she fangirls over him as a 12 year old girl, but again, Sakura is normal. Most girls I knew that age did the same thing. Most BOYS I knew were super...*cough* ready to be with girls (*cough cough*, puberty, everyone, *cough*). Sasuke is cool and confident. Sakura lacked confidence, so naturally she was drawn to Sasuke. Sasuke at first found her annoying (as he did with Naruto too) but as the became a team, she bonded. SS' bond is NOT NSN's bond. SS's bond is built upon a simply caring basis. Sakura always cared for Sasuke, and Sasuke always was protective of Sakura. Forest of Death, Sand Invasion, etc...add in the angst of Shippuden (nobody can tell me one was better than the other during Shippuden, Sasuke was 'bout to axe everyone while in darkness lol), blank period bonding, and then Boruto. There it is in SIMPLE terms.
As far as "standing up" to Sasuke...not sure where this person is coming from....again, NSN is NOT SS....Sakura has stood up to Sasuke at times. In the FOD where she indirectly called him a coward, when she pleaded with him to not fight in the Prelims and threatened to tell the proctors of the curse mark, trying to stop him from leaving Konoha., etc. If she was a "doormat", she would have said "Ok Sauske, you do whatever you want, it's all ok my love!" That was chapter 3 Sakura. A LOT of haters can't move beyond that chapter tbh...moving on. The main thing is, she wasn't STRONG enough to stop him by FORCE. She wasn't written to. Sure I woulda liked some angsty moments of them fighting, TRUST ME, you already know. But Kishi wanted the fighting to mostly be between Naruto and Sasuke, as most battle Shonen go. It's Goku and Vegeta, Deku and Bakugou, you name it. She was written to LOVE him unconditionally. And despite Kishi's misses here and here, it's clear as day to many people that they do indeed, love each other. Sarada is a product of years of redemption, forgiveness, and understanding between SS (which is....literally some of the themes of Naruto....Zabuza...Haku...Gaara...Pein...Obito....list goes on...).
And of course Naruto and Sasuke's relationship got more spotlight. They're essentially the Shonen "duo" like I explained before with Goku and Vegeta. It's a common tope which can be a bit annoying imo since other characters get shafted, but they're gonna be seen more by the public. At the end of the day, Kishi modeled NSN after his relationship with his BROTHER....that was one of Naruto's main story plots. AGAIN, OF COURSE it's gonna be pushed and seem like it's more "balanced"...it's a battle Shonen, not a love story lol. The love stuff is sprinkled in. This isn't a Shojo. If it was, SS would be the main focus (or...I guess NSN if Kishi WANTED to go that route).
So to finish off, you're right with the SP thing. But it can't be helped. If people wanna say NSN has more "development", let them. At the end of the day, they're shown more to the viewers because they're the Goku and Vegeta of Naruto. They push the narrative, not a romance. They're Kishi's go-to boys. They're the essential main character and rival. It's nothing new. But you know what else? They're. NOT. A. COUPLE. SasuSaku is, and again, romance is SPRINKLED in. It's N O T a Shojo and not the main focus. Honestly...the arguments that NSN shipper used are a bit weak knowing full well that SNS represent Kishi's brother and himself.
I mean...tldr, I could just say "Kishi and his bro are Naruto and Sasuke. SO nah bro, NSN has no romantic development. I wasn't meant to lol."
Typed longer than I thought, but I hope this helped! At the end of the day, ship SS in peace. We have an amazing fandom for the most part with wonderful content and we ain't stopping anytime soon :)
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