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Another good Doncaster lad ..
Yungblud announced lower ticket prices ($20 including fees) to help fans who can't afford to come to see him in concert. *this was posted 21 June 2023
#what a good guy#Yungblud understands its about share the experience#more artists need to do this especially the big artists who can definetly afford to help their fans#he loves his fans like Louis love his fans#Doncaster lads#Yungblud#ticket prices#21 June 2023#mine#vid
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Then there were also elements that I found kind of surprising and shocking, the whole ‘come to me’ sequence that happens right at the beginning and I really couldn’t quite work out why we were doing it like this. And it does feel like a horrifically mean trick for Lestat to come out and say that thing. [...] I mean it’s quite clearly scripted because of the way the language is written and I think this is when it comes down to that little negotiation because one of Lestat’s big MOs is that he is a monster, an unlovable monster. And he kind of oscillates between loving that side of himself and hating that side of himself. I think there was this element when he says I, a vampire, was being hunted, I was being loved, he loved me. I showed him for who I was and he loved me. I think that probably is an amendment that Lestat put in because I think that meant something to him because if we take what we see in season 1 of the Louis transformation where Lestat does a really brutal act in front of Louis before saying I love you, and by the way I want to be your immortal companion, you know, let’s do it, but this is who I am. [...] So I think that was an amendment that Lestat put in. But the ‘come to me, he was calling me calling me calling me, come to me come to me come to me…’ I don’t know, it feels very complex and Jacob and I spoke about it quite a lot and I think we came to an understanding between the two of us that there was a mutual yearning for each other. [...] So I think it’s very vampiric language whether Louis was saying “come to me” or whether Lestat could just feel that he wanted him to come to him. And I think it’s very shocking for Lestat in that moment to be smacked in the face with ‘I didn’t want you. I always hated you.' Then he responds, then his vicious side spikes up.
Sam Reid [X]
#iwtv#interview with the vampire#iwtvedit#amc iwtv#vampterview#lestat de lioncourt#louis de pointe du lac#loustat#sam reid#*#love this bit because many fans were like lestat would never voluntarily say that it's all fake performance he's forced to do#and then sam says that part was actually lestat being sincere and it was an amendment specifically requested by lestat himself#and you can see from his face how hurt and offended he was when louis protested!#his psychology should be studied in a lab
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Tbh i am not surprised that a person who openly talked about having drinking problems since 1d days, because of how crazy 1d worked has been agressive. What surprises me is people being surprised (they never seriously saw drunk person?). But i am also confused about this whole book. Apparently Maya said that that book is not fully bout Liam but compilation about her exes and some of the worst parts are not about him. But recently she said that the book is “ofc about him” so what is true then? Or did she meant it that ofc some parts are about him or that whole book is about him?
Sorry, just confused
I also am not surprised- we've learned so much more about the real stories of things and about the guys' actual lives over the last years, and the story that has unfolded around Liam has been totally consistent throughout if you've been following it, and so the information Maya is telling us is shocking and upsetting but not difficult to believe. I got an anon yesterday saying they were worried about getting similar revelations about the other boys, like "if Liam could be doing this we just don't know, any of them could", and while in a way that's always true I guess, anyone could be doing anything in private like... that doesn't really concern me. Because none of these Liam revelations are coming out of nowhere, there have been many MANY steps along the way leading us here if you've been watching, and he has talked openly about both his mental health struggles and his addiction issues. So to answer that anon... to find out something similar about Louis would in contrast contradict everything we know about him and no I'm not worried about it. Is he probably very irritating, absolutely, but an abuser or a loose cannon, well that news would shock me. But anyway as for the book I don't find it strange that she was nervous when it came out and treading lightly and later decided, fuck it. In the absolutely on point tiktok she dropped today (YES👏GIRL���FUCKING TELL THEM👏) she even mentions attempts to keep her from publishing the book, presumably by Liam's team, that I am riveted by and cannot WAIT to hear more details about actually- like I said I don't find it at all strange that she was nervous and downplayed it a bit then. But if she says now that it's just about Liam, well, I would say it's been clear from the beginning that the book is their story. Maya herself brought up the parallel of songs being written about stuff and I think it's the same thing; it's true (she was in an abusive relationship that involved certain kinds of events) but maybe not 100% literal (I'm sure details were changed to make the story work, it's not like a word for word timeline of their interactions or whatever).
#maya henry#blah blah blah#re the tiktok also lmaoooo are people really saying she wants money her family IS RICH like RICH RICH#but hot damn the part about enabling UH HUH !!!!!#yep yep yep#in terms of the other guys and what would shock me... well obviously we know Zayn has also had a history of agression#and we know WAY too much about him being pushy about sex lol#I would not be shocked to hear he crossed a line... but think he's probably just a bit of a fuckboy#I absolutely do not trust Niall behind closed doors but the songs we have about him seem to tell a pretty consistent story;#self absorbed but basically harmless#harry... who tf knows what he is like outside of being with Louis but I would be shocked to hear of him being aggressive yeah#I have a lot of issues with him but taking advantage of people or being pushy are not even on the radar#and as for Louis... like I said yeah it WOULD shock me. I don't just love him because he has a nice face!#it's BECAUSE of the ways we do know him and know what he's like. because of his tenderness and care#and his consistent kindness and love#and his openness about his private side#so yeah- it would shock the hell out of me it really would#but then I think that anon also was worried about eleanor spiling smth about their relationship so we are not coming from the same place#my kneejerk response was I'm sure he paid her on time what else are you worried about lol#although out of everyone if someone was going to say he lashed out at them I suppose it would be her#it was probably one of the most difficult and frought relationships in his life#and one that he did not want#so! but still no it doesn't worry me#tbh there was one thing in mayas video today that did surprise me which was the premeditation#Liam actually planning using the fans against people and sneaking around doing stuff#I guess even believing everythign I had chosen to paint a picture in my mind of someone who was still#basically unaware of the wrong they were doing and more flailing than plotting#and that shakes me a little. and makes me very unhappy to hear#liam discourse
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I just think people need the gentle reminder that while you may consider a celebrity a loved one, to them you are just someone who loves them. I’m sorry if that hurt your feelings✨
#and yes I’m looking at y’all who think you deserve an invite to Liam’s funeral because he’s special to you like y’all have to understand#a funeral is private for family and loved ones not for fans and we can mourn him and grieve him on our own not at the funeral with his#family who are trying to say goodbye to their son or brother or father or actual bestie#like i love y’all but sometimes I need yall to turn your big brains all the way on#celebrity culture#one direction#liam payne#my little lanky baby#my little irish marshmallow#harry styles#niall horan#louis tomlinson#zayn malik#parasocial relationships
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Trying to talk to somebody about Louis outside of Lestat and making it very clear to the other person and they still keep talking about loustat. And on the very first reply. It wasn't even, like, a while later the conversation accidentally went to loustat. The person didn't even try, really. SMFH.
#interview with the vampire#the vampire chronicles#anne rice#big (show) loustat shipper and they're my favorite so far but I don't even like to talk about them that much anymore because of this#I admit I'm not the biggest book Louis fan and I don't think he landed right#but even there he interacts with other people like Claudia Armand David Merrick and had some arcs outside loustat#And show Louis is SUCH A FULL AND COMPELLING CHARACTER we can talk about him and his family mental illness race sexuality religion etc etc#It's not even about never including Lestat like I get it that most of his interactions are probably with him so it makes sense#but to never have at least ONE moment when you acknowledge Louis outside of loustat? really? and you say you love him? lol ok#louis de pointe du lac#jacob anderson
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i think too much about how louis said he wrote the greatest as a tour opener and how that idea probably came from seeing how we reacted to we made it during ltwt..... :,) <3
and some are gonna kill me for this one but when he said "was written with the fans in mind and with that relationship between us so having that connection and that moment of us both singing together will be pretty cool" he wasn't saying the song was for the fans, he was saying he wrote that thinking on how we would react to it [and to start a tour with it], it says it quite clearly in the quote....
#i absolutely adore how fitf-louis talked about fans when talking about love songs#and i don't believe he did that to just «cover up the real meaning» as most would say#because if you see his quotes he's clear about the songs not being for the fans#just written with OUR ENERGY IN MIND#i fully believe he wrote a lot of the fitf love songs inspired of how is larries reacted to walls love songs during ltwt#like imagining being louis on stage and having people singing loud as fuck during princess park#or the otb fan project#or the kmm fp or us screaming the beginning of always you#like apart from larry that must have felt amazing#i mean.... he loves touring and messy energy doesn't he?#fifi.txt#the greatest#we made it
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the post about the mirrors between the Kenny & Jane fight and the Minnie & Clem fight just reminds me of all the similarities between Violet and Kenny. like obviously they’re different characters, I just find it interesting how they share so many traits (being very loyal, may or may not sustain an eye injury, like fishing even if one is rod fishing and the other is spear fishing). there’s some more similarities I forgot to mention but I’ve been patiently waiting for someone to draw Violet and Kenny fishing wearing “women love me, fish fear me” hats or something.
oh yeah, ALSO. they both have moments where you can fight them and calm them down (Kenny on the train, Violet in the ending where you didn’t save her).
this is just so interesting! wish other people acknowledged it.
anon unknowingly unlocking my beef with kenny defenders who hate violet
vi was one of the first characters for me where i realized that a female character can have all the traits people will defend in their favorite male character(s) and yet theyll still find a way to absolutely despise her for some reason
kennys #1 defense is that him losing his family is what drove him to the brink and its soooo understandable for him to act out the way he does (brutally killing people, abusive even if it comes from a place of wanting to protect "his group"). but violet, who acts the way she does (isolationist loner) because.... she lost her family... is a disloyal bitch for some reason 😐 even while shes nothing but loyal to clem regardless of choice (people are quick to defend louis' actions in ep 2 as well and his behavior never makes Him disloyal for some reason 😐 "he lost his best friend!" and vi lost her best friends/gf because of marlon so?), and only has a lapse in judgement after you (determinately) "betray" her 💀 AND she apologizes for it if you do!!
if nothing about violet changed besides her pronouns the fandom reception to her would be so dramatically different and i refuse to believe otherwise
#a piece of media thats all about shades of grey having a very black and white fanbase is actually infuriating. stop justifying!!#me playing twdg S4 for the first time: “wow! i bet people will really like violet! shes like the girl version of the usual fandom male fave#nope :D <- me suffering#people who love kenny or even marlon or mitch and hate vi??? ok#the way people talk about kenny in this fandom youd think he was the actual protag for 2 games#i find kenny very interesting and compelling but boy do kenny defenders ruin it for me#just gotta add i dont blame louis or anything his behavior is understandable. i just want people to have that same grace w vi#twdg fans who are normal about the women you are the only ones i trust#im never gonna get over vi losing to ben on that reddit character poll. yall cannot be saved#twdg#replies with lexi#incognito
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#the chappell roan situation has made me realize that in the past i’ve crossed boundaries when it comes to louis#nothing like following him or stalking him but being obsessed with his location and following those close to him#i’ve realized that’s not good as i have no right to intrude in his life like that#just because he includes us in his success and shows appreciation and love for us as a collective#doesn’t mean i have the right his boundaries#seeing videos of fans following him when he’s leaving airports or touching him when he’s asked for space#and people following everything his family does obsessively#makes me uncomfortable and i can’t imagine how it makes him feel to have those boundaries disrespected when he’s explicitly stated them#it’s hard to realize you’ve engaged in things that aren’t normal as a fan but i have to recognize my mistakes#having a parasocial relationship with him makes the lines blur but i’ll be working towards being a better fan and not disrespect him#i’m glad chappell spoke up about this and i hope more artists do so because people need to hear this and respect artists#logan.txt
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#interview with the vampire#i just found and watched a video on youtube that is a lestat hate and rant about his fans and it was so SO cathartic#i dont even agree with everything said and was naturally at first skeptic of a youtuber's opinion#but finally FINALLY there is a louder voice of someone who can see things about this show from another point of view#even if it's a pov that's more strict than the one i use to analyze media myself#i thought i was going crazy when seeing the fan opinions surrounding this show. mostly out there but sometimes here too#like yeah with how popular loustat is i knew there would be plenty of bias for the angle that flatters it#but the things ive seen lestat & loustat fans say.... the longing for eye bleach was real#but finally someone is there to underline that hey. that very present very intentional racial and power dynamics are in fact very real.#do in fact influence the characters accordingly. and does not come out of thin air or just 'the circumstances'#it's valid to explore the other side of the coin in louis' character of course. but it doesnt mean that it's not there#mind you. all of that shit louis described? is while insisting he was not 'an abused person'#and its so satisfying to see how someone can pass all the bullshit and have the serenity of heart to recognize that#regardless of everything else. there is a reason why louis felt like lestat was a predator and he was being preyed on#that is because he largely was. lestat *was* a vampire on the hunt. an emotional vampire to boost along with the more literal sense#he might disagree to be doing that on a conscious level and he might have clear reasons to have the instincts he does. he still did that#thank you for also calling bullshit on the reunion scene dialogue and parts of the trial in how it was trying to frame certain things#its the main reason why s2 didnt fully work for me. like jesus christ.#that man literally was part of a ploy to murder their daughter. BE SERIOUS. and im supposed to be mad about armand's involvement??#i also felt so seen when he talked about how dickmatized penis delirious to the point of frustration louis is#there is so much to be grateful for. in highlighting the weight of lestat's involvement vs armand's#in talking about louis' family's side of things. expressing how people for some reason love to call armand a mastermind lying manipulator#when the first culprit of that is the blonde bitch??#honestly the irritation i feel towards many of the fans of this show and the major opinions was such#that i was feeling bad just be seeing iwtv content around and i dont wanna feel like that. i like the show so much.#this was soul clearing in a way. even if. again. i dont fully agree with everything#love how its so clear how so many people try to invoke the books when trying to dissuade him from thinking ill of lestat#because thats exactly my experience too LMAO. talk about a weak limpdick argument#and people who try to invoke unreliable narrator are not much better#and the whole story is made up from the writer's head and nothing matters! see i can do this too
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#aotv spoilers#ok you’re asking for my opinions let’s do it#i love louis!!!! im so proud of him and im so happy i got to watch him on his journey for so long and can’t wait for what’s to come for him#and i think my love for him and for his music and for my time in the fandím and for one d etc is what makes this a good watch and why i#liked it because otherwise i have my reservations to the movie and im not going to get into the babygate stuff#apart from the fact that louis trying to get freddie to hug him was extremely awkward and ive never seen less organic thing than the beach#scene and i find it funny they tried to push that as organic so hard#my issue is that it just had a potential to be a much better film is all sksmsk#it is good but it feels a bit rushed and kind of cheap in some ways and i get that’s the style of these biopics sometimes but#like it was such a shame the bg music was not really gold and was always exaggeratedly emotional because it made it cheesy and cheap and#kind of forced#i think it would have a great potential to get many people to say wow this is a strong talented guy and i think it is a great intro but i#think they undersold the movie so it’s not going to have a chance to reach an audience much wider than his current fanbase which is a shame#for his current fanbase it is a solidification and reiteration of his promo season and it is very clear where they want louis to stand and#what they want his image to be like and i think it’s absolutely amazing how they managed to show his growth as an artist and as a human and#and place him in a position where he’s now confident and secure and ready to embark on a new journey etc. although for the fans there’s#nothing new there and i think it’s worth considering how exactly they’re portraying and that they completely left out his relationships#aside from his family and the band#i think it’s important that it was noted he was undersestimated and pushed down and i think they made obvious how much he’s worked on#himself#i think it’s kinda clear they’re using it as a faith in the future promo with the new songs even though the doc ends with the end of the#tour#i think it’s interesting how many rainbow flags they chose to include without addressing the way his shows and fanbase look at all because#if i were from Gp id wonder what’s up with that esp when he only acknowledged the kmm project again#generally i think it’s a good watch that’s very transparent in what it’s trying to do for louis promo and image wise and it doesn’t tell#you anything new but it reminds you why you love this man so much while also leaving you a bit disappointed because this had a much#greater cinematic potential and a lot of it feels either rushed or underfinanced or forced and that’s a shame
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💙 a fan at FITFWT Birmingham, 18 November 2023
#this sounds like Louis but he also probably heard about what happened at Taylors concert too#Louis loves his Louies#security and safety#fan stories#FITFWT Birmingham#18 November 2023#Louis Tomlinson#mine
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Thank you for coming to Greece, it means the world to us greek fans <3 - Efi C.
Fan message for Louis from the Louis Tomlinson: Live (see all the messages here).
#louies messages in the live album#he always wants to see so many fans around the world#i love louis and his kind heart#kind of late but the day hasn't end here so still on time#louis tomlinson#louis and louies#louis tomlinson: live#tomorrow's message is very sweet#and honestly part of this series was because there is a message in there than i relate so much#i love a lot of the messages in there so i like to give them a time to shine
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Nah. I bet this is just Sony fuckery. Louis probably owes them those Asian dates and they are are just going to drag the whole thing out to lose him fans and decrease the confidence of promoters. It’s nasty but pretty obvious someone has been working to reduce the confidence of promoters that he can sell tickets from the beginning. One of the things being promoted in AoTV was his ability to sell a tour. Louis isn’t even the only member of 1D this is happening to. Liam was never going to do that random Latin American tour, but someone with access signed off on it.
.....do people still believe this nonsense is in any way relevant to anything that is happening? babe, I am BEGGING you to follow better people, this is the actual opposite of "pretty obvious" and completely unnecessary when there are actually totally straightfoward explanations for everything we can see happening, and the same things can be seen with lots of other musicians who are presumably not the targets of industry conspiracies. PLEASE learn something about how the world and the music business actually work (what on earth does "owes Sony Asia dates" even MEAN that's... not a thing) and stop listening to crazy people, it's 2023 not 2016 and Louis is out there THRIVING on his own terms
#is this anon seriously suggesting that Louis DOESN'T WANT to play Asia??#he loves touring and his int'l fans and going to everywhere he possibly can and LOVES playing places he hasn't before#OF COURSE he's dying to get to Asia?! anyway what the hell does 'owes sony dates in asia' even MEAN what are you imagining?#that in 2010 Louis signed a contract that said you have to play japan and hong kong at some point... like.....??????#I don't think you know what record deals... are#also please leave Liam out of this like if you seriously think the biggest obstacle he is dealing with is people scheming against him#I don't know what to tell you#blah blah blah#louis promo#louis tickets
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This exchange between Louis and Daniel kept pinging around in my brain for months. Of course it didn't take front seat and begin germinating until things have quieted down, all but coming to a screeching halt content wise.
Intentional or no, it feels like a hypothetical RJ + Anne conversation within a Louis + Daniel conversation.
Louis:
Anne whining to RJ some iteration of: "But I don't want anything changed. I don't want people twisting my work with fan fiction. It greatly disturbs me!"
Daniel:
RJ: Yeeaaahh, Anne that's just not how it works. Sorry, I don't make the rules.
Also: Your story is in great hands, gonna blow up some of the best core elements for ya.
gif cred to @losingbenni
#I love RJ and it feels like this definitely happened in his imaginashun#I know he has great respect for her work#As do we all#But this Louis+Daniel exchange reminded me of Anne's love of fan fic🤣🤣🤣#amc iwtv#Louis & Daniel#Hypothetical RJ & Anne#This is not meant to stir shit up#Just my brain worms
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Coming slowly to know his evil, or being catapulted into it ... was all the same. I wanted none of it finally. And, deserving nothing better, I closed up like a spider in the flame of a match. And even Armand who was my constant companion, and my only companion, existed at a great distance from me, beyond that veil which separated me from all living things, a veil which was a form of shroud. (IWTV, 1976)
#yn.#iwtv#tvc#armand#louis de pointe du lac#how u gone tell this story w him in the same room👀🫣#AxL being together in the amc show verse has so many implications#what stage r we in the AxL relationship? i find it so fascinating.#all the hooplah on DM cuz white fans need a white face to insert in& im like did lou already bury armand in the st louis cemetery?…#no shade but im js if they kept a or l as white we would have more convos/speculative fiction on the nature of their dynamic#i fucking love it. lou terrified deathly of the fact that there is no maker sister wife dynamic w armand#meeting an entire vampire cult. knowing hes in charge of them. & he let u kill them all. whos to say ur not next?#a spider in the flame of the match… bait for a shark. the way lou frames himself here is fascinating#armand’s later descriptions fawning over how pitiful and morose and easy to abandon louis was#getting broke up w in audubon park cuz armand wanted to see if les would snitch on himself & spur lou into some emotion…#louis making up the part about lestat and the baby. my god💔💔💔💔#ig this is an answer to one of my old anons who wondered if book lou harbored suspicions on a & his role in clauds death.. yea#i love how amc made all the retcons part of the question of memory itself & what is narrative#the hegemony & hierarchy of relatability - the white man as the conduit for a tale told thru a black man’s complex lense#s
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I feel like an effective love interest in the gothic/horror genre is one you're uncomfortable being attracted to. Like, they can be the most absolutely vile and terrifying person you could imagine meeting, but the part that fucks with you is the fact that you're still attracted to them. And you have to kind of step away for a moment and remind yourself of your own morals and boundaries.
I mean, if that person's irredeemable qualities turns you off completely to that character and you don't have a hard time with that character from the moment those qualities are revealed, then that character is too bland. They lack the charm that messes with the person consuming the story. And if you have little to no reaction whatsoever, then you probably need to reflect on that, because the normal reaction is to be disturbed.
#Gothic#Horror#Horror literature#Gothic literature#This is why Anne Rice's Louis fails to appeal to Black readers#And her failure to frame slavery as something as obviously bad mixed with the lack of empathy her white fans have is why they like him#Like#I love kids and dogs and that's one of the main reasons Candyman fucks me up#Because he's not above victimizing either#And he's a sympathetic character because of his past and being a victim of racism#The way he was killed and for the reason he was killed is heartbreaking#That's how you create an effective gothic/horror love interest
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