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You know how I've been complaining about Everlark and Silverparry deniers this past year. They've been bugging me a lot.
Today I saw a tweet about people being anti-romance these days and harping on the writers whenever the main characters have a romantic relationship. It's getting ridiculous.
I'm now struggling to remember if that was a thing 10/15 years ago when both fandoms were more active. I honestly can't remember because I wasn't on as many platforms as I am now and the ones I had been on seemed very romance-friendly as far as I remember.
On tumblr, I was mainly just THG/Everlark-focused 10 years ago and I honestly don't remember any Everlark deniers coming my way at all. Was it really the case or was it just me living in a bubble?
People today saying Everlark never had romance/they should be just friends are so weird to me as well. I was convinced they were just trying to be different but their persistence is weirding me out. Why does two fictional characters having a romantic relationship disturb you so much? Why are you hell bent on denying what the writer wrote in her books?
I don't know. I'm just really confused. Would love to hear your experience and opinions on it.
#hunger games#the hunger games#thg#everlark#peeta mellark#katniss everdeen#hdm#his dark materials#silverparry#panjava#lyra x will#lyra silvertongue#will parry#thg meta#crossover post#hdm meta
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Isn't it amazing that they never met before this scene, they know they're on opposing sides at first, yet this heated exchange...broke both of them? And it's because Lyra coming into their lives as a beacon of hope in such a bleak landscape, already began to shake them and changed them at a foundational level. Right under their noses. Even if they couldn't really put that into words yet.
Their daemons do something we've not seen up till this scene: initiate physical contact to soothe them. And it is received for once because Lee and Marisa have chosen to be vulnerable. Hester, who has probably been silenced too many times with a quip from Lee, is heard at a deep emotional level for once. Marisa's nameless daemon, who she physically abused on a regular basis, chances it by reaching out his hand and for once isn't shoved away.
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How do you reckon theatrical plays work with daemons in Lyra's world? I know they don't have movies in the same way we do, but I would imagine they have some kind of performing arts. Like I imagine characters in stories would have set daemon shapes, do you reckon there are like... daemon costumes for actors whose daemons don't match the character's shape? Or like daemon... make up? Fur dye? For if someone has something close, but say your cat daemon is white but it's mentioned in the narative that Hamlet's is a black cat. I imagine kids whose daemons don't settle til later into puberty would be very popular in acting circles, as their daemons could change to match the characters' for longer. Maybe children performing as older characters is common in a similar way to how men used to perform on the stage in female roles in the past, so that they can match their daemons to the character's. Or maybe media that is written specifically to be a play has character's daemons left a little vague, like generally feline shaped, or canine, or bird, so that it's left a little more to artistic interpretation for casting. Maybe there's much-talked about versions of certain plays bringing new aspects to the roles by casting someone with one daemon shape vs another, like someone playing Lady Macbeth with a grass snake vs a viper etc. Casting calls put out for people who have certain shaped daemons and an interest in performance.
Or maybe there's daemon swapping (though obviously not touching, though maybe there's ways of faking it, like how we have ways of fake kissing or slapping or stabbing etc in plays in our world, or maybe it's just standard costuming for actors to be covered from the neck down so there's no skin contact) where an actor will be on stage but another person's daemon is performing the role of their character's daemon. Maybe there's a special hidden spot built into theaters, either behind or under the stage for their human to be so that the daemon can move freely around the stage but not tug at their tether, and likewise for the human actor's daemon to hide. But imagine, daemon actors, performing in their own right! Maybe there's a kind of prestige to a play having one or more actors performing with their own daemon as is? Like people celebrating how perfect they are for the role?
#his dark materials#hdm#northern lights#philip pullman#golden compass#daemons#meta#actors#hdm meta#Idk man I just love this idea and I'm having more fun with it than I should.
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I am watching HDM s2e5 and oooh boy when Marisa and Mary meet and Mary immediately assumes Marisa has a doctorate and is and equal and starts asking her about her work and just the look on Marisa’s face!!! No one takes her seriously unless she’s intimidating them!!! And Mary living the life she could have had she not been trapped in the patriarchal hellscape on her own world!!! There’s that inkling there that she wanted to be a scholar and she wanted to study science but she had to claw her way there by marrying well and gaining power in the church and oooooh boy there’s so much subtlety in that scene.
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Just thought I'd drop in an idea I haven't seen anywhere else about a possible connection between HDM and BoD. We know the rose oil allows the user to 'see' Dust, but it's never mentioned in HDM. We also know that Asriel somehow got hold of a "special emulsion" that allowed him to photograph Dust. This got me wondering whether the special emulsion is made with the rose oil. What do you think?
Hallo Anon!
That's actually a very neat connection and if I had to guess, I'd say this is on the "very likely" zone of the Canon spectrum.
Though the roses' property have only been scientifically proven 5 years after Asriel's presentation, I think it's a reasonable thought to suggest the special emulsion would share some of its properties with the rose oil, if not being the actual same thing! Asriel could have had some experiments that lead him to the oil itself or he mimicked the effect using something different and either way, I think it connects very seamlessly to the plot.
I like this idea a lot, anon, thanks for sharing!
#asks#hdm meta#hdm meta: rose oil#the book of dust#the secret commmonwealth#his dark materials#i would go as far as saying that Pullman might actually be aiming at this for tbod 3#given how much asriel seems to be the focus of tbod#a girl can dream
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The thing that hurts the most about The Secret Commonwealth is that we spent so much of The Golden Compass learning that being separated from your daemon is traumatic and horrible and how the church wants to sever kids from their daemons and how Lyra barely escapes it and then... She and Pan get estranged from each other on their own volition. The Magisterium gets what it wanted, anyway.
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never not thinking about iorek byrnison eating lee scoresby's dead body, so as not to let it rot but instead allow it to sustain an old friend on his journey. and how this act fulfilled lee's dying wish to help lyra by giving iorek the strength to go on and find her. thinking about consumption as a form of love, loving someone in their entirety and wanting to eat them whole but also love and grief being something you carry inside of you that guides you forward
#girls when cannibalism is used as a metaphor for love#when i read this at 15 i thought pullman was a right weirdo but now im grown up and i Get It#genius writing#his dark materials#hdm#the amber spyglass#iorek byrnison#lee scoresby#hdm spoilers#hdm book spoilers#meta#alice’s rambles#favourites
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Hey guys, now that we are closer then ever to the Percy Jackson show coming out, can we all make the executive decision to use the tag #pjo tv whenever we're *explicitly* posting about the show?
Adaptations are always going to be different then their source material, and it would be a real shame to lose the original fandom in a sea of excited posting about the show. It sounds tragic, but it's what's inevitably going to happen unless we all decide on a tag now before the show comes out
(Here are some examples of how the tag could be used #pjo tv #pjo tv annabeth #pjo tv criticism #pjo tv s1ep4 #pjo tv spoilers . Etc etc. This would also mean NOT using the pjo tag for the show. That would solely be used for the books)
Anyways, can't wait for the show, and can't wait to see how the fandom booms even bigger! I just hope we're still able to keep something of what we have now in that future
#Pjo#Percy Jackson#Pjo tv#Annabeth chase#Pjo tv show#percy jackson tv show#Fingers crossed this reaches a wide audience#Also as someone who has been in the good omens fandom and the hdm fandom#It is absolutely tragic going through the tag now and no longer seeing unique interpretations of the characters#And meta analysis solely on the books#Like don't get me wrong I still enjoy the fandoms#And they still offer a fun time#But it really is quite the shame#We can do better guys come on#I believe in us
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Daemon Test for SHAWN SPENCER
A dæmon (day-mun) is a type of fictional being in the Philip Pullman fantasy trilogy His Dark Materials. Dæmons are the external physical manifestation of a person's "inner-self" that takes the form of an animal. ... Dæmons are usually of the opposite sex to their human, though same-sex dæmons do exist.
Pinniped
Your daemon would take the form of a pinniped! Those who have pinniped daemons are cheerful and imaginative people who know how to work hard and play hard. They are known for their boundless creativity and often have their head in the clouds, excelling exceptionally at one area of their life.
Sea lion
Your daemon would take the form of a sea lion! You are an imaginative and talkative individual who does best when they have a creative outlet. More so than others with pinniped daemons, those with sea lions are deeply emotional and struggle when bored or isolated. They are open-hearted and enjoy work that feels like play.
When deciding on your daemon's appearance, consider the pattern of your daemon's coat. A darker-colored sea lion may indicate someone more private and reserved, while a lighter-colored sea lion may indicate someone more open and gregarious.
This seems like an immediate great fit!!
Originally, I was hesitant about giving my muse a predominantly water-based animal, but then I read that sea lions can be outside of water for more than 20 days at a time and can run twice as fast as a man can!! So…
This girlie is now perfect!! I haven’t come up with a name for them yet, but if I do, I’ll update this post :)
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not me monitoring the notes of that book poll to see who also loves HDM and scrolling through their blogs to maybe glean some fresh thoughts about the story from what they've posted about it
#i am eternally starved for Book Talk when it comes to those books#Book Think too#give me all your meta-analysis#PLEASE#if you ever send me an ask with your thoughts about something HDM-related it will make my whole day and maybe week
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Peeta Mellark & Lyra Silvertongue Comparison:
Lairs, Manipulators, Silvertongues, Sunshine Personality, Reserved Deep Down, and Falling for the Carer.
I said I was going to write about their similarities and today is the day!
First of all, Peeta and Lyra are both blonde. (I'm just kidding.)
The actual first point, Peeta is described as having a silver tongue and Lyra is literally named because of her silver tongue. That's the biggest similarity they have. They're both very charming and convincing. It's like a superpower they have.
They're both very good lairs and manipulators, too. Peeta can lie to a whole nation with a straight face and they'd believe him. Lyra is again, literally named because of her good lying skills and she sometimes can't stop herself from lying.
They both started lying and manipulating people because they didn't have a loving home environment growing up. Lyra was an orphan raised by college staff and she had to lie a lot to get what she wanted. Peeta was in an abusive household and had to lie a lot to just survive.
They both have very outgoing personalities and seem to get along with everyone. But they actually only open up to a few people. Lyra couldn't really trust anyone in her life until she embarked on the journey to the north and met Iorek. Peeta couldn't trust anyone until he had Katniss and Haymitch as a found family. Even then, he reserves his "bad side" from them and only shows them his helpful and sunny side. Deep down, he's so far from the exterior of this super sociable person.
In both of their relationships, their SO is a reserved person who terrifies everyone else, but Peeta and Lyra fall for their SOs first because they're drawn to their tough and caring personalities.
#hunger games#the hunger games#thg#everlark#hdm#his dark materials#peeta mellark#katniss everdeen#lyra silvertongue#lyra x will#will parry#thg meta#crossover post#silverparry#panjava
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mary malone and her daemon + love
It's been a few dates, and lovely though they have been, it is still only a few, the first she's been on since– since before.
He likes her too, and he says as much in soft chirrups and fond words she can only hear as she slips into a state of consciousness she now finds as easily as breathing, and she'd feel like she's gone mad were Will not able to see him too, but the part of herself that does not have a name is as real as the blood in her veins.
She's known it for a while now, but it strikes her anew: no matter how much she loves someone, no matter how much they love her, there is a part of herself that she can never share with them, and it is a lie she cannot avoid living.
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#142 words. i'm gonna meta on my own fic here#mary as we see her is wholly honest with herself and open about who she is#she left the church when she stopped believing because she would not stay as a liar#she fell in love with a woman and embraced that#(and i have no doubt that she would be quite openly out once she was truly sure of it)#she's honest about this to lyra and will too and she really barely knows them#so to have to hide a part of her life that so wholly altered her? especially when there is a gap in her life? god she'd hate it#and how do you even share that with someone without them calling for a mental health wellness check#so. i think about this a lot#his dark materials#hdm#myhdm#anonymous#ask meme
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So we know that in the His Dark Materials series we have the concept of a Death, which is a humanoid form which appears before you when you are dying/dead to take you to the land of the dead. The people of some worlds seem to be aware of them, judging from how casually the people in the suburbs of the dead talked about it, and I took it as it being similar to a daemon to them. But people from other worlds can see their own death when they accept it/welcome it. We've also seen that seeing a death doesn't mean you definitely die/stay dead.
We also have the stories from the witches. That their goddess, Yambe-Akka, appears to them when they are about to die. What if the idea of a death got translated through the lens of a goddess, by a witch who accepted she was dying, and saw a person offering to guide them into the afterlife, and then for whatever reason didn't actually die. So that witch tells her loved ones and clan members, about a smiling person welcoming her and offering to take her on, and the name springs up (maybe it means something in one of the witch's languages) of Yambe-Akka, and the story spreads and builds.
So basically, my theory is, a witch from Lyra's world saw their Death and accidentally created a whole goddess' lore around it, and ever since, whenever a witch has died, she's seen her own Death and thought it was her goddess.
#his dark materials#hdm#philip pullman#northern lights#golden compass#witches#meta#world building#i dont think for one second pullman meant this to be a thing#he makes things up on the spot too much#but its what I THINK from the information he put on the page#deaths
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still thinking about the part when marisa tells carlo boreal that if he had her he would know what to do with her like go off none of these men have ever seen her for who she really is!!!!
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Hi Effie! I enjoy much of your HDM meta but I interpret the witches in particular very differently and I was wondering if you'd be open to hearing another perspective? I don't want to type up a wall of text if you're not interested in it lol
Hello anon! I'm glad you've enjoyed the stuff I've written!
It's perfectly alright that you have a different interpretation of the witches. Frankly I don't care much for them, but if you'd like to share, I always welcome any HDM opinions here, even if I might disagree with them!
I'm interested to hear what you have to say because most of my wicthes meta tend to be a lil old and I can't remember what I said there but I'm certain it was controversial lol But please do share your POV if you feel like it!
Cheers and thanks for the message!
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Still trying to decide if I like the parallel between Mrs. Coulter walking on the ledge and talking about wanting to jump vs Lyra letting go and falling into the abyss
#ik Pullman traces parallels between them in TSC ad well... but then Lyra's older#anyway#hdm spoilers#his dark materials bbc#his dark materials#mrs. coulter#lyra silvertongue#hdm meta
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