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This purple and golden cloak with a silver lining is first worn by Nigar Kalfa in the third season of Magnificent Century. The cloak is also worn by the lady-in-waiting of Isabella Jagiellon, Queen of Hungary in the thirty-eighth episode of the third season. It is seen again on Fahriye Kalfa, Melek Kalfa, Hatice Kalfa and Gülşah Kalfa in the fourth season.

The cloak is also worn by Zarife Hatun in the twenty-sixth episode of the second season of Magnificent Century: Kösem.

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Women in History Month (insp) | Week 2: Royal Mothers

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Magnificent Century + Evolution of Hürrem's Family (requested by @skynerd157)

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Magnificent Century + AO3 tags

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★ recycled series

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Favourite costumes in Magnificent Century (season 1)

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It's interesting to see how Mahidevran, Hatice and Gülfem's different yet overlapping relationships with outside forces (soothsayers, the superstitious/the "magical" and the "divine" in particular) form and feed into their core mindsets and views of their experiences.

Gülfem starts off rather as a background figure, so we learn more about her experiences and what exact role the outside forces have played in her processing later on. She's seen their harm, but she's also embraced the good they bring. They've caused all the bad in her life but that's why it's almost like they are the only ones aware of the full extent of her pain, hence joining in her hardships (E43: "Only Allah and I know how much I've suffered") - they're all she's left when even what small things she's established for herself in the harem are taken away, thus, unlike either Mahidevran or Hatice, she separates the outside forces from her pain altogether, pinning the blame only on herself (as seen by her scene with SS in E15). How can they be a part of her pain when she can confide in them so much? She's gained the support of others, sure, but her past isn't really brought up by anyone except herself when push comes to shove: that only stays inside her and within all those outside forces that dictate everyone's fates' grasp, the grasp of one force in particular: Allah. Gülfem goes with fate's flow, with Allah's flow (fate and Allah are constant here, but Allah is put at the most personal), only he can really console her and make everything better. What's done is done and even seeking justice is pointless, as only Allah will decide what will happen next to each and every one of them.

But what gets all the more interesting is Gülfem's persistent advocacy in one's own capability to step up and improve their own life, albeit with outside help. In Hatice, Gülfem doesn't see a mere mirror of herself, but someone who has the agency she doesn't have, the position and resources she can't have, so she, unlike Gülfem, shouldn't just stand there and wait for the outside forces to dictate her life and take away what was taken away from Gülfem herself. She should lean on Allah for help, she'll always have Gülfem's own support as well, but she should act and only if there's nothing more that can be done, then she can wait and hope for the best, but not do something drastic the way Gülfem tried to once. It has clearly taken a lot of strength out of Gülfem to keep going, a strength she perhaps didn't think she had (and that was probably due to Allah too as a presumed sharer of her suffering), so she advocates for others too to find their inner strength and believe in the best, always (even if Gülfem doesn't find herself capable to do so, she can find her solace in others doing it; until of course, all these others, all her loved ones disappear in their failed rebellions which causes Gülfem to finally rebel herself, ceasing to rely on any outside force). Or else they would just be more miserable. That is the theme in her relationship with seers and the superstitious: she didn't want Hatice to go to Yakup Efendi again in E37 because she doesn't need him, whatever he says shouldn't stop her efforts to get better (and besides, the future isn't entirely in his hands, either) but it may worsen things for her if she actually goes, bringing her only worry and disappointment (as it happened). She wants for Hatice not to take all the bad omens she gets into heart, to brush them off completely as they can't fully control her life, they can't be that final say; for a while she merely advices though, if she actively does something against them, it's to prevent Hatice from becoming more miserable. But the more desperate the people around Gülfem get and the more she loses them, the wearier she becomes of what they're doing and she tries to stop them in some way (this includes Hatice's dealings with Saliha Hatun). This is why Gülfem is the most down-to-earth and the least tied to seers, the superstitious and the "magical" out of the three. She actively strives to avoid them.

Mahidevran's reliance on outside forces, her faith in Allah is established as a major part of her character right from the start, this is how she's learned to survive in a place she otherwise feels helpless and alone in; such a major part, in fact, that it's there even at one of the closest peaks we get of her past: her E55 monologue ("I prayed to Allah to help me"), perhaps clearly signifying that she's already too ingrained in this environment, that she's already adopted this culture as her own (Süleiman, Hafsa, Hatice, all of them are already her family that has likely completely overtaken any trace of the past). Her faith in the supreme justice (unlike her relationship with fate) always remains strong and consistent, only growing more and more with every experience. But what about her relationship with soothsayers, perhaps her most changing (as in foundational) relationship with an outside force??? S02 presents an interesting nonsequential throughline: in E26, when Yakup Efendi is first mentioned and appears, we learn that he was kicked out from the palace namely because of Mahidevran. We see her having rejected him, and perhaps having rejected soothsayers in general due to bad, terrifying prophesies. She was never associated with soothsayers at all before then anyway (unlike, say, Hafsa) and there we find out why. But she's apparently accepted/embraced soothsayers once - in her E55 monologue she also mentions that she had her fortunes told and they were good fortunes, pointing at the fulfillment of her desire to be with SS then ("...That I would go through a golden road and earn my desire.") and that incited her, assured her future happiness, making it almost a given. In spite of the monologue itself too pointing at all of Mahidevran's mixed feelings at the moment (that include the soothsaying, as she had then what she's long lost now and with SS's illness she gets to grapple with that for yet another time), the soothsaying clearly remains a part of the good memory to her, maybe even a cause for it, as her tone still recounts the yearning and excitement of that day, as fresh as they've ever been. It's still unclear whether Mahidevran sought the soothsayer herself or her fortunes were told in an official visit of the soothsayer (how she says it all indicates the latter more), or whether this was prophecied by another soothsayer or Yakup Efendi himself (the latter is far more likely again as Yakup was mentioned to have been the palace seer in E26), but it's palpable how that prophecy moved Mahidevran and shaped her going forward - it seems like she's really clung to it as a mark of her feelings and her prosperous future and has started to take seers and their prophesies more into account. And when she hears that one haunting prophecy which says of her not having anymore children, she can't take it. It's way too devastating to be true, so it has to be immediately discarded. Yakup has to be immediately removed of his position in order to stop saying things that make people mad, that make them tremble and shake them and the lives they've secured to their very cores. This is another reason why losing her child in E03, losing Süleiman, him not touching her even when he calls her again afterwards and Gülşah daring to even suggest that she might be pregnant in spite of all these odds aches so. She's experiencing in real time the effects of a faraway prophecy she's tried so hard to move past.

So when she sees that this particular outside force has rebuffed her, she renounces it, moving towards an outside force above it instead: just like she enlisted Ibrahim to kick Yakup out (he can't object an order), she leans on Allah (is there anyone above Allah?) for that prophecy to be avoided, for the good to come and overcome everything instead, all of this thus fueling her belief in divine justice even more. No one, not even seers, can foresee or interfere with the will of Allah. The good is there and it has to come from somewhere. And each time one force fails, Mahidevran moves to another, testing them all, from the tangible (her supporters) to the more and more intangible (seers, fate), but in the end, she always returns to Allah as the only fully reliable force as all the others still follow their own "agenda" regardless (when she loses her supporters and loved ones, she starts leaning on Allah entirely, but finding the kind of inner strength fully within herself she didn't believe she really had before as well, through letting her remaining loved ones go as well; the reverse of Gülfem's arc). Nothing can ease Mahidevran more than Allah and his supreme justice coming in eventually. But seers have hurt her especially and she doubts them even more due to the wound they've inflicted, labeling them and abhoring their practices, especially the ones applying magic: she distrusted the seer Hatice called in E86 ("...I don't hear good things about this woman. They say she's a witch. (...) What use will she be to you?"), wanting to send her off even during her "ritual' and disapproving of her arrival in Topkapi in E87. Those who come with bad omens, upset people and mess with their lives have to be involved with something bad, with these incomprehensible powers, they have to be bad themselves (is this why Mahidevran calls Hürrem a "witch" too?). This also plays part in Mahidevran's belief in the superstitious - she might have believed in it too previously, but she pays attention to it even more given the bad stuff likely to happen that always lies in her mind deep down, and will do so even more with each loss. She almost commodifies herself with the superstitious, because it immediately tells her what exactly to avoid in order for the bad stuff not to happen; it's a distant yet reachable enough force that's also part of who she is in this harem (it's no wonder she's the character who introduces superstitions the most - the impact of broken mirror(s), the snake as bad luck etc.). This is the only way she can be more laid-back towards a soothsayer too (along with her prophesies not being entirely about her), with her what recounting Remmal Elmas is known for to Aybige in E46.

Unlike both Gülfem and Mahidevran, Hatice is established as quite wary of outside forces right from the start, albeit going with their flow in the first episodes (similarly to Gülfem). She is met with their finality and their inescapability early on; she's experienced enough in the past to believe that she can't avoid them at all when they come, especially if they are dictated namely by her closest. How can she defy her fate? How can she disappoint her loved ones? How can she stand against what she believes in even if it breaks her? Well, that is right until she reaches happiness against all odds. For once, she can see the outside environment in a suprisingly more favorable light, with her getting the chance to be with Ibrahim and her closest approving of it. This doesn't last for long, though, as they're quickly separated and she goes through a great misfortune that brings back her distrust in outside forces, amplifying it. But there's one outside force she starts leaning on more and more as time goes by: the soothsayers, Yakup Efendi in particular. She is clearly reluctant to call him at all at first namely due to his reputation (she generally seems to get even more uncertain and concerned if her closest have a bad view of what she's uncertain and concerned about as well), but her own worries, along with Hürrem's, push her to go for it anyway - both her E26 and E37/8 calls of him are hesitant, but she always chooses certainty over inaction. Because she's lived in the unknown for too long, she's aware more than anyone that the misfortune can come unexpectedly and from any place, she's terrified of one particular tragedy happening all over again (her losing her children), so she seeks guidance, any guidance she can get to know how to proceed next. She has to be absolutely sure that she and her family are going to be safe. For she wants to have someone to tell her for certain that it'll all be alright for once. That their happiness is secure for once. That there'll be nothing to prevent it for once. And the only one who can do all that is the seer, because he goes beyond empty reassurances that can't calm anyone down, he's in touch with all the outside forces beyond anyone's reach (so he's safe and can be counted on in that regard). And Hatice trusts the outside forces as much as she can control them. Even if the seer tells her something bad, she'll know what to look out for, she'll try to control it. At the end of the day, she just searches for the truth. Will everything really be okay? Will they really have peace or will a member of her family be gone for good (E38)? She feels powerless when everything points at Yakup's second prophecy becoming true: it becomes the center of all the bad outside forces for quite some time (it all leads to this, doesn't it?), so she waits for it to be fulfilled any second now (SS elevating Ibrahim in E39, Ibrahim's poisoned arrow and absense in E43-4 etc). The more bad things happen, the more Hatice ultimately leans on the outside forces she feared so much, directing them herself.

Hatice's belief in the superstitious (i.e. the statues) is similar: she's already so accustomed to bad things happening due to external forces (and her bad feelings ending up correct, on top of it!; btw, early S01 Hatice is the more stagnant aftermath period, not her norm) that she reads everything as a sign. She's used to looking for signs, she needs signs to prepare for what will await her and caution accordingly. She confronts the unfamiliar, rejecting it entirely, in order for it to go away too. Of course, the way she believes in the superstitious is also influenced by her closest and who she is. But no matter what she does, the signs Hatice desperately searches for won't leave her and she can't help but sink deeper and deeper into them and what they mean; the more she feels she loses her agency and the more people disappoint her, the most unreachable, intangible outside forces she gets into, nearly embracing them. If she can't stop them, she has to work with them, in spite of how uncertain or scary it might be. That is at its peak in S03 when she starts dealing with black magic in order to eliminate Hürrem and she searches for the whereabouts of Ibrahim's grave through unusual means. Magic is fundamentally about making things happen and Hatice wants to seek accountability and gain closure all by herself as there's no one else left to completely trust anymore. If they won't help her but only hinder her, if they don't give her what she asks of them (they can't because they don't want her to have it for one reason or another, because they've taken it away themselves!), she'll make it happen through these other ways. It's her only option now. From being wary of a seer (a "witch" in this case) due to their fame and abilities, to their fame and abilities being the very reasons why she's calling them in the first place. She wants them to do exactly what they're known for in spite of any possible danger, even for herself. She won't stop at anything until they've all fulfilled their purpose. She almost "engulfs herself" in their practices, no matter how wrong it may seem (her regrets in E90 can signal towards this). Hatice has always been most tied with all of it anyway, so why not dig in deeper? What else is there to lose? Hatice's faith in Allah is also fascinating in that it isn't as prominent. She of course prays to him for Ibrahim to come back safe and sound for the campaigns and brings him up sometimes in her fury towards someone ("Allah will punish you" etc.), but not much outside of that. Is it because Allah is the biggest outside force she can't even try to reach? Or is it perhaps because his ways and will turn out reminders of all the undesired paths she has to follow?

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Stop she idolizes him so much, look at the way she looks at him (and this is the ep after ferhat's death & her being scared for Ibro dkdknd)

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Hatice Sultan as Lover

Ibrahim Paşa as Folklore

Suleyman Sultan as Evermore

Mahidevran Sultan as Midnights

Taslicali Yahya Bey as The Poets Tortured

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This pink tiara with a pearl drop was first worn by Hatice Sultan in the fourth episode of the first season of Magnificent Century. It was worn again by Mahidevran Sultan in the nineteenth episode of the same season. Gülfem Hatun can also be seen with it in the tenth episode of the second season. The tiara appears again on Mihrimah Sultan in tenth episode of the third season. During the use on her, the pearl drop eventually gets removed. The fourth season saw the tiara three times, first on Nurbanu Sultan in the tenth episode, then on Nergisşah Sultan in the eighteenth episode and lastly on Ayşe Sultan in the twenty-ninth episode.

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Am I The Asshole? - Topkapi Edition

Unfortunately for @faintingheroine I just... Could not bring myself to fulfill her request. I am sorry, it just wasn't very inspiring! But I wrote this as a replacement/apology. Basically, this one is just the Magnificent Century universe, only with the addition of Reddit. Don't think about it too hard.

Disclaimer: Usernames here aren't always super clear, so I am going to just relay here who is who, both the obvious and not-so-obvious ones. ButterflyPrincess - Hatice FeelLikeABot - Nigar Genghiskhanwithteats1001 - Aybige manfromparga - Ibrahim (d'oh) M&MCustodian - Süleyman moonofdestiny500 - Mahidevran Moonlover69 - Gülşah RoyalTurqoise7 - Şah smilingsultana - Hürrem thebossakinci - Bali Bey

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AITA for taking revenge on my friend for sleeping with my boyfriend? by user smilingsultana So, about a year ago I (18F) entered the harem of some powerful dude (30?M) and met this really nice, chill girl (19F), who is even from the same region as me??? We instantly hit it off, we even slept next to each other in the servant’s quarters, it was pretty great. A few months in, our master noticed me and WTF he was so dreamy??? I mean yeah he’s also very generous to his favourites haha but that’s besides the point. The thing is, he fell in love with me like immediately, and I am also crazy for him. He jokes around with me, gives me gifts, does really unspeakable things in bed, the whole package. There was some drama with his family, but from the way he talks to me, I thought he won’t even look at another woman again. Especially when I became pregnant! He even nursed me back to health, three times, because did mention his family are a fucking bag of dicks (except for his sister she’s cool)?! But whatever, this isn’t about them.

The point is, remember that best friend I mentioned before? Well, you know that war that we had recently, the one where we took Belgrade and everything? My master left shortly before I learned I am pregnant, and when I came back, I was pretty far along, I think like seven and a half month in? So he gave me my own room, attendants and everything, and my friends was one of those attendants. I thought it’s gonna be great, she will stay with me forever and they are never going to send her away because she’s too old to serve or some junk. But shortly before I gave birth, she started acting suspiciously. For one, she converted to islam, and I know you’ll be asking „but op isn’t this a good thing that she turned away from the false faith?“ – well no, because the moment I learned what she did I knew she got this idea from me. And I converted mostly to please my master. The red flags were just blaring in my mind, but if you’ve ever been pregnant, then you know that this kind of thing is usually pretty low on one’s list of priorities shortly before giving birth. Besides, I thought it would be a bit of a dick move to worry about her stealing my man, like, she would never, and also, how would she even do that when she’s always by my side? So, when I started going into labor in the middle of the night, I thought she would be there to help... But then I couldn’t find her anywhere??? I searched for her for what felt like an eternity, I almost gave birth on the ground of a palace corridor, and she only turned up the next morning! I was too happy to really be pissed off, because you know, I just had my baby boy, and I almost kinda forgave her.

Then one of my other attendants told me that my master had another concubine with him that night – I wasn’t quite convinced it was my friend, but you can bet that when I ordered her to find the woman from last night, I choked the bitch real good. Just as a warning, you know? And that bitch had the audacity to tell me to „let it go“ because master does whatever he wants or something. Well, I wasn’t going to kill him, but that bitch, so I could care less about that. Then my friend disappeared on the same night they told me not to disturb the master, because there’s another girl with him and... I mean, you don’t need to be a genius to figure that little mystery out, you get me? That morning, I woke up to my friend coming back to my rooms, with sable furs around her neck (did I mention that my boyfriend recently gave me the exact same furs as a gift, because he did) and a big smile on her face as she admired it in the mirror. So of course I lost my shit. I only realized I should’ve been more subtle when there was this big hulabaloo around the fact that I said I am going to kill her (which I didn’t even really mean that way, like sure I wanted to beat the shit out of her and cause her grievious bodily harm, but that’s about it), and in the end I only got a few slaps in, so of course that didn’t satisfy my thirst for revenge.

That day, I visited a mirrormaking workshop. The mirrormaker mentioned that I shouldn’t touch this one chemical (don’t remember the name, only that it was this transparent liquid), because it’s dangerous, which gave me an idea. During my initial freakout, I took out my friend’s sable stole; now I was going to return it to her, but of course poisoned with that chemical (which I stole beforehand). And it worked like charm! My friend woke up with her face utterly ruined, and I was happy at first, because now our master defo won’t call her to his bed again! But when my revenge was finished and my thirst for blood satisfied, I looked at the situation with clearer eyes, and I felt so guilty? Like I could’ve killed her??? Which, I thought I wanted to kill her, but maybe not? Like yes what she had done is fucking inexcusable, but now I can’t even really hate her because I put her in the fucking hospital and she’s suffering so much, I... Did I go too far this time? Please help.

COMMENTS

FeelsLikeABot YTA. YTA AS ALL HELL. WTF, THAT WAS TIN AMALGAM? THAT THING CONTAINS MERCURY??? YOU ABSOLUTELY COULD’VE KILLED HER.

moonofdestiny500 NTA! That bitch absolutely had it coming lol - Moonlover69 Agreed! Fuck that whore.

ButterflyPrincess Uh, can we talk about the fact that you literally made your friend one of your attendants?! I mean I feel like just that makes you an asshole. Don’t get me wrong, I am all for having cordials relationship with staff, but... That cordial? Especially when she was your friend BEFORE she became your servant? - manfromparga Nonsense! My best is also my boss and I can tell you from experience it’s actually pretty chill? People tend to make way too big deal out of it, but so far it’s working pretty well for us. Then again my boss is way less of an asshole lol.

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AITA for keeping my family in the dark about my marriage untill the last moment? by user M&MCustodian I (36M) have had my favourite concubine (27F) for about a decade, and I never had any regrets about keeping her. Sure, she is jealous and temperamental, which is a bit of a problem, but at the same time, her fiery temper can be such fun! Besides, she’s extremely loving and devoted towards me, as well as our children, sometimes to the point of clinginess. In that decade, I might’ve entertained the thought of disposing of her or replacing her, especially whenever she crossed some lines and got into trouble (which, to be honest, happens a lot), but I’ve always decided against it. To put it simply, she makes me too happy to deprive myself of this happiness just because of whatever she has done at the moment.

Of course, the rest of my family does not exactly appreciate this. It’s quite understandable that my previous favourite concubine and mother of my oldest son (35F) dislikes the woman that replaced, but my mother (51F) is no friend of hers as well. While I can imagine she might dislike my favourite’s argumentativeness and ambition, I do not understand how that threatens my mother – or our entire family, as she keeps telling me. My mother is a strong woman, and in conflicts with my favourite, she usually gets her way without much effort. In fact, some of the actions she takes to punish my favourite whenever she steps out of line seem overblown; I strongly suspect mother punishes my favourite overly harshly, or even accuses her of things she did not commit – like that one time she claimed my favourite was unfaithful to me, with the only evidence being a diary of her alleged lover that conveniently disappeared before she was able to present it to me. It feels less like justice and more like spite, if I’m being honest. The only other family members who even live in the same town as us are my younger sister (31F) and her husband (36M), who also happens to be my right-hand man and best friend. My best friend also can’t stand my favourite, though they don’t come into contact that often, and even my sister has a complicated relationship with her, though despite disagreements, they are still generally friends (though since she’s also friends with my other favourite, this often makes her position a bit awkward). Needless to say, my favourite, the love of my life, is not exactly popular with my own family.

Recently, she has played a fine trick on me – first, she made me free her by complaining about how she can’t do charity in the Holy Cities because of her slave status, then refused to sleep with me because, well, she’s a free woman, it wouldn’t be appropriate for her to sleep with someone she isn’t married to? According to all legal experts I’ve consulted, that is in fact the correct course of action, which makes her little trick all the more insidious. Of course I was angry with her, and I banished her to one of our country estates, even though that turned out to be as much of a punishment for me than for her. My pain was only enhanced when our daughter (9F), whom I sent away with her, got sick and I had to visit her. To see my beloved with our darling little girl in her arms, and know that I might never see them again... Well, it was too much. I decided that my favourite’s banishment should only be temporary, but I didn’t quite know when to end it.

Then mother suddenly called my favourite back home, just to visit our children, which was admittedly a bit suspicious, especially when she was then attacked on the way by bandits; then again, she apparently also sent the party that eventually helped save her, so it might’ve been just a coincidence. Either way, hearing that she might’ve died, then spending the whole night with the rescue party, only to see her lying near death on the forrest floor... It was all a little too much for me. I took her home and let her stay for good, despite my mother’s protestations, and while I couldn’t marry her immediately for fear of losing face, my mind was already made. But when my mother sent me another concubine, which I had to refuse, I just knew the time was right. I needed to state my committment to her loud and clear.

I chose the circumcission of my three sons for that purpose. After all, why waste the biggest celebration this family has seen in years? I did not tell anyone, not even my future wife of my intentions – I might’ve dropped a few cheeky hints here and there, but not enough for anyone to connect the dots. When I brought my bride to watch the ceremony, her happiness more than made up for the difficulties of the past few months. We then went to tell our family, which was gathered for the afforementioned triple circumcission, and... Well, I probably should’ve seen their reactions coming. They still made me second guess my decision – not to marry my favourite, the more I think, the more convinced I am that I should’ve done that years ago. But mayhaps keeping them in the dark this whole time might’ve been a little bit insensitive towards them? I don’t know; that’s why I’m turning to redditors.

COMMENTS

manfromparga Okay, ngl that was kind of a hillarious story! And God no, you should not have told them beforehand! They would’ve tried to ruin it anyway! It seems your family is a bunch of scheming bastards. You don’t need their approval. - thebossakinci Agreed! I myself have experience with meddlesome parents – not mine, they are chill, but myfather-in-law was a cockblocking jackass. And mother is a much easier obstacle to overcome! - moonofdestiny500 There you are! You okay, man? I’ve heard you ended up in a hospital! What happened? -- manfromparga Ah, nothing. Minor incident. As you can see, I am well enough to use reddit lol

ButterflyPrincess Hmm. That’s a difficult situation. On the one hand, I understand that disapproving parents can be a pain in the ass – I myself faced the same issue. More because of my husband’s station than because of personal disagreements with my parents, but still. On the other hand, maybe your mother has a point at least in the fact that after tricking you like that, your concubine DEFINITELLY didn’t deserve your full forgiveness? Let her stay in your house, fine, for the sake of your children, but I feel like if my husband pulled a fast one on me like that, I couldn’t possibly forgive him? Then again, maybe if you really, really love her and if she’s really so wonderful despite her flaws, and if (and that’s a big if) you’re not leaving out some more legitimate reasons for your mother to be mad at her... Hmm. I don’t know. - manfromparga    https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2F3gf3i18hcf0a1.jpg - ButterflyPrincess OH GO FUCK YOURSELF. God. Why do you have to be a dick under every single comment I write?! -- moonofdestiny500 Ahh there’s our good ButterflyPrincess and manfromparga banter! -- Genghiskhanwithteats1001 ButterflyPrincess x manfromparga. 500k, enemies-to-lovers, slow burn... -- ButterflyPrincess GO TO HELL YOU VULTURES. -- manfromparga I am honestly offended by the suggestion that I would fuck a pathetic old maid like ButterflyPrincess lol

FeelsLikeABot Okay, dude, but can we talk about the fact that you just. Freed your concubine and didn’t think about the fact that you aren’t going to be able to sleep with her anymore? Serves you right for being an idiot. - RoyalTurquoise7 Agreed! That’s very basic islamic law, man. Where did you go to school again?! Overall YTA, but like... Not a big one? I mean, you did free a slave and made her an honest woman, even if you did do that for stupid reasons.

Genghiskhanwithteats1001 HAHAHA. No, fuck your mum. You don’t owe her shit. Honestly, your wife is kinda boss for pulling a fast one on you like that. Is she on reddit?

- M&MCustodian Yes, actually! She’s smilingsultana. -- moonofdestiny500 SMILINGSULTANA IS YOUR WIFE?! Lucky bastard! To be honest, I wouldn’t even clock her as a slave woman. She rocks. NTA. Or maybe YTA for not marrying smilingsultana sooner.

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AITA for making my best friend divorce his wife (that he didn’t want!) so I can sleep with her? by user manfromparga My friend (45M), whom I will call Fatih, has a very sordid romantic history. His most recent romantic relationship was that time he flirted with one of my servants, only for her to turn out to be a spy??? Yeah, he was forced to throw her into the Bosphorus himself, it was pretty fucked. I should also note that he only avoided charges of treason thanks to my intervention, which will be important down the line. But anyway. Since then, Fatih gave up on finding love entirely and started living disorderly – he visit a tavern nearly every day, getting drunk and sleeping around. It’s pretty awful, especially since our friendship is well-known by public, and I am curretly holding a high office, so being associated with such wastrel is extremely inconvenient for me. I thought marrying him off might help, and my wife (31F) agreed with me – hell, she even found an excellent wife for him, a servant of ours we could call Filiz (30?F). The problem is, me and Filiz have a history.

A few years ago, me and Filiz served the same household, and our paths often met. I slowly became aware of Filiz‘ crush on me, though she didn’t act on it, and it largely manifested as her faithful service to me and my wife, so I wasn’t too bothered by it. Then our son died, my wife became depressed, and so her mother took her into the countryside, hoping that a change of enviroment would do her good. It did, but Filiz also used that opportunity to seduce me. Now, I reacted as is appropriate to such a situation – I distanced myself from her, sent her to another household, I even thought of marrying her off, though that didn’t quite work out. But she continued to make ruckus, bursting into tears in front of me, writing love letters, even threatening suicide. Soon, I got pretty sick of it. However, in the meantime, my wife continued to be just as difficult – you see, she is from a much more high-born family than me, and neither she, nor her family ever forget to remind me of that fact. And Filiz’s over-the-top gestures of affection made me think that if I was married to her, she would never humiliate me in the same way. After all, as all the men of reddit can attest, a man has his needs, and one of those needs is to be the head of his family. But because of my wife’s superior status, that wasn’t the case with me. I only did what any other man would do – started looking for affection elsewhere.

As Fatih’s wedding was approaching, my desire for Filiz grew. And Fatih made it abundantly clear that he didn’t want a wife at all. So shortly after the wedding I made a pact with him: on his wedding night, he will divorce his wife, that as mentioned he did not want anyway, and he will let me sleep with her, using the public charade of a marriage as a cover. It’s an easy, convenient solution to both of our problems. The only problem is, I might’ve impugned on his manly pride somehow by denying him his lawful wife? But as I’ve said, he consented to the whole thing, and I’ve mentioned he has a life debt towards me, so it’s a bit of a grey area. But then, what is this subreddit if not for clearing up grey areas? So tell me, am I the asshole here?

COMMENTS

smilingsultana Okay, can we talk about the fact that YOU ARE MARRIED?! Does your wife know you’re here, writing this shit as if she didn’t exist?! - moonofdestiny500 Agreed. Ugh, thanks smilingsultana for being the only sane person out here, lol! - M&MCustodian Here comes smilingsultana, defender of women and children haha. I mean, his wife sounds like a proper bitch. Maybe she had it coming? Like if I lived with that kind of harridan and couldn’t divorce her, I 100% would do the same and worse. -- moonofdestiny500 Wow, that’s a very nice, comforting thing to hear from one’s husband. Smilingsultana, why do you put up with this douchebag again?! --- smilingsultana He’s not that bad in person lol --- manfromparga White knighting much? ---- RoyalTurquoise7 Wait. I thought moonofdestiny is a woman? Just from their general writing style. ----- smilingsultana No, he always says he’s a guy. I mean unless he’s lying or something lol.

thebossakinci NTA in this particullar case, but jury’s still out on the whole adultery thing. I know your wife probably has your balls in an iron grip, but can‘t you really just divorce her? Like I personally would rather die that stay in a marriage with such a bitch. Honestly there’s a reason why I am not married lol. Especially not for money. - manfromparga I did not marry for money. Like yes she’s rich, but I genuinely loved her. I was young and stupid, what can I say.

moonofdestiny500 There’s just... So much else wrong with this picture that I didn’t even notice that this „Filiz“ sounds completely insufferable??? Like I have a servant just like this, and worse. I don’t know how bad your wife is, man, but I guarantee you that fucking a yandere does not make her more bearable. Not that I ever tried haha. - FeelsLikeABot https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SuspiciouslySpecificDenial

ButterflyPrincess Wow. Manfromparga just keeps digging trough the bottom of the barrel, doesn’t he? Like I guess we now know where his misogyny comes from, but still. Punishing every other woman for your own unhappy marriage is pretty heinous.

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Magnificent Century + Costumes in 1.22: The Fury

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Magnificent Century + text posts and stuff

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This Headpice with pearls is worn three times in Magnificent Century, First on Selma Ergeç as Hatice Sultan Season 1 Episode 3 (2011) and second worn on Selen Öztürk: Gülfem Hatun in Season 2 Episode 29 (2012) and worn last time on Pelin Karahana as Mihrimah Sultan in Season 3 Episode 10 (2012)