#gregor orsinov

[alightcaseofohno]

Updated; Old Man of each Fear Entity

The Eye : Jonah Magnus

The Lonely: Peter Lukas

The Vast: Simon Fairchild

The Dark: Maxwell Rayner

The Buried: Hezekiah Wakely

The Corruption: John Amherst

The Desolation: Arthur Nolan

The Hunt: Trevor Herbert

The Stranger: Gregor Orsinov

The Spiral: Sergey Ushanka

The Web: Dexter Banks

The Flesh: Jon Han

The Slaughter: Alfred Griftor

The End: Nathaniel Thorpe

[httydfirefly]

LonelyEyes text fic - but actually it's my friend's group chat (Part One)

I imagine this is just happening in the Magnus Institute Slack 😭 I hope you enjoy! Contains swearing.

Peter Lukas: You should all know that @Elias Bouchard and I have gotten divorced over a narwhal dispute Please respect out privacy during this difficult time

Breekon & Hope Deliveries: 🛶

Peter Lukas: I will also be pressing charges against our couples’ therapist @Simon Fairchild for malpractice

Simon Fairchild: I had no ill part in this dispute

Peter Lukas: And possibly filing restraining orders against the both of them

Elias Bouchard: @Simon Fairchild I know you swayed his decision

Peter Lukas replying to @Simon Fairchild: Hearsay!

Simon Fairchild: I will have it known that I am an innocent bystander

Elias Bouchard: YOU ARE NOT

Peter Lukas: Blasphemy

Elias Bouchard: homewrecker

Peter Lukas: You’re not innocent either @Elias Bouchard

Simon Fairchild: Last I checked, you were both hating me and loving each other as the therapy session was supposed to go…

Elias Bouchard: Apparently you checked wrong You caused this Simon you made my husband divorce me

Peter Lukas replying to @Simon Fairchild: BULLSHIT

Simon Fairchild replying to @Elias Bouchard: I did nothing of the sort

Elias Bouchard: you and your words…

Peter Lukas: yeah Simon

Simon Fairchild: my words can do no harm

Elias Bouchard replying to @Simon Fairchild: Poisoning his mind

Peter Lukas: This is your fault now

Simon Fairchild replying to @Simon Fairchild: Certainly not cause a divorce

Peter Lukas: Nono ofc not

Elias Bouchard: causing him to stop… loving me

Simon Fairchild: Yessssss, hate me more

Peter Lukas: 🤡

Elias Bouchard replying to @Simon Fairchild: you would like that wouldn’t you

Peter Lukas replying to @Elias Bouchard “causing him to stop… loving me”: Never did loser I lied all along

Elias Bouchard replying to @Peter Lucas: NOOOOOO

Simon Fairchild replying to @Elias Bouchard “causing him to stop… loving me”: That wasn’t done by me, it was already well on track

Elias Bouchard: I gave you everything and what do I get

Peter Lukas: …divorce Keep up.

Simon Fairchild: You got a narwhal for a bit???

Elias Bouchard: crippling debt and a failed marriage

Peter Lukas replying to @Simon Fairchild: Simon istg

Elias Bouchard: I am in debt because of the WEDDINGS you insisted on

Simon Fairchild: Maybe Peter can pay for the next one then

Elias Bouchard: Peter I have consulted my divorce lawyer Simon and he says to give me the narwhal

Simon Fairchild: …

Elias Bouchard: I will take what is rightfully mine half of your estate

Peter Lukas replying to @Elias Bouchard “I am in debt because of the WEDDINGS you insisted on”: YOU SAID IDAHO WAS BEAUTIFUL

Simon Fairchild: How about we all meet up at the Institute’s Christmas party and we can sort out all the disagreements I may have failed as a relationship therapist, but I’m sure I can do great as a divorce lawyer

Peter Lukas: I don’t wanna see your faces

Elias Bouchard replying to @Peter Lucas “YOU SAID IDAHO WAS BEAUTIFUL”: I WANTED A BEACH WEDDING YOU KNEW THIS

Peter Lukas: 😤

Peter Lukas replying to @Elias Bouchard: FUCK YOUR BEACH WEDDING I WANTED POTATOES

[farewellneverland2004]

Pt. 17 TMA Gender Bend Poll

[slapphapp1]

I bought a little guy and I need help naming him

He is my son

I love him

He is a clown so I'll put him under the cut for the people that don't like clowns

@fairy-writes says I should do Garbanzo, my dad says Mel, my younger sibling says Marilyn, and the rest were either friend's suggestions or I came up with myself

(I was going to get a different picture but when I went back to go get him he'd been sold already so I went with this fine gentleman. I was going to name the other guy Mr. Bonzo and I'm still convinced that I can find a print of him somewhere so that name is reserved for him)

(Artist signature just says Higgins, he's an oil on canvas painting, so if anyone would like to help me out in finding his brother, I'm 90% sure it was done by the same artist)

Edit: I’ve also heard Charles, Sullivan, Radish, Lance, and Frank but I can’t add them to the poll so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[the-lightless-flame]

annabel mcalistair and gregor orsinov are like. opposite ends of the fucked up doll maker spectrum i think

[behold-cyaegha]

Gregor and Nikola Orsinov but make it ballet.

[notknickers]

alright, friends, enemies and anything in between. i may or may not have something to say about this, specifically about nikola themselves. i am not particularly concerned about whether they could, technically, kill macbeth - the categorisation of which is a pursuit worthy unto its own, just not one i care to engage myself. however, i am in sore need of sleep and will try to come back to this when my need has been adequately satiated. the only words i leave (more for myself and the construction of my future arguments, than for any other reason) are. nikola orsinov started their life as the human joseph grimaldi in the same way a leather sofa started its life as a cow. theseus's nikola. bonne nuit!

Could Nikola Orsinov from The Magnus Archives?

Yes, Nikola Orsinov from The Magnus Archives podcast could kill Macbeth!

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At face value, this seems rather easy; she's a sentient mannequin made by Gregor Orsinov, so she applies for all three Clauses, right? Well, it seems to be a bit more complicated than that, from what I can tell.

Nikola used to be a human before being transformed by Gregor, and this human was a man (Joseph Grimaldi), and presumably of woman born. But Nikola is still referred to with She/It pronouns, so we might consider her a trans woman, applying her for the Gender Clause anyway.

As for the other two Clauses, it really depends on whether we see Joseph and Nikola as the same person at different points of her life, or if we see them as two separate entities, and Joseph's corpse was just used as the materials to bring Nikola into existence. The wiki isn't entirely clear on this, and there very well might be something in the podcast itself that disambiguates this, but until someone comes forward with the receipts, we'll leave the Unconventional Birth Clause and Birth Parent Clause untouched.

Either way, Nikola is still able to kill Macbeth regardless!

Nikola Orsinov was also requested by @crows-junk-pile and an anonymous asker (who I will answer separately since they also asked about another character I haven't covered yet). Thank you all for your submission!

[maferf107]

⚠️TW: Blood and body gore. Goretober Day #17

"He got really boring, and I’m a monster. I mean, what do you want me to do – not pull him apart? I did use all the bits." Nikola Orsinov - MAG 97

I finally got to draw my girl Nikola! I can't believe the fricking murderous circus manequinn is on of my favorites but honestly she is just so unapologetic and inexplicacly funny.

She's insane, I love it.

[enteragoodnamehere]

variety of nikola doodles of varying quality and level of projection because I miss her

[alightcaseofohno]

Tryna figure out the old man for each entity...

The Eye - Jonah Magnus

The Lonely - Peter Lukas

The Web - Raymond Fielding (I think?)

The Stranger - Gregor Orsinov

The Spiral - (Possibly) Gabriel

The Hunt - Trevor Herbert

The Slaughter - Alfred Griftor

The Flesh - Jared Hopworth

The Vast - Simon Fairchild

The Buried - Hezekiah Wakely

The Dark - Maxwell Rayner

The Desolation - Arthur Nolan

The Corruption - John Amherst

The End - Nathaniel Thrope

[notknickers]

I am very Stranger-aligned and also tend to categorise, learn, try to understand... but that's mostly the autism, frankly. To me, any Stranger emanation and those few humans who have aided it have always read autistic. Wolfgang von Kempelen, the first - to our knowlege - to attempt an Unknowing, was a recluse who spent his time tinkering on the machines of his creation, enough to draw the interest of the Stranger and his emanations for reciprocal aide. All he cared about was mechanical feats of engineering, giving a semblance of the life spark to that which is - and should stay - inanimate. Thinning the line between impossible and plausible with his ingenuity. And, like many autistics, he was very bad at the whole social interaction part of being human. Not at the special interest part, though... The machines were his friends and at some point, the machines stopped being plain creations of his imagination and labour, but became as alive as him. Gregor Osinov was a circus master, surrounded by puppets, clowns and other marvels whose job was to amaze the audience and drive them to suspend their disbelief, until knowing what really was and what shouldn't be went fom being a priority to becoming impossible. He is the only one that doesn't read as autistic, per se, but his dedication towards crafting both uncanny experiences and fantastic, nightmarish creatures, felt both notable and pertinent to grant him inclusion. Breekon and Hope are jack of all trades who have spent most of their existences on the margins of society, disposing of corpses infected with the plague, first, then as train conductors. These allowed them to travel and learn, observe, while strategically keeping interactions that might give away their otherness to a minimum, so that they could choose when to show it, to feed their power.

To them, existing in the world, is but a farce. Surely, a remnant of their circus days, when they played the part of strongmen. And parts is all they play. Whilst Breekon and Hope are the most rooted in their identity - that which is anathema to the Stranger, a fixed, defined identity - I would argue the fluidity they have maintained makes them quite emblematic. Exemplary are their interactions with the *actual* Breekon. The unsettlingly playful way with which the duo copies the man's affectations, the theatre of it all. Isn't that simply mirroring? Unlike any random autistic person, their intentions are sinister, it's true, but copying those around you while you try to understand why they behave the way they do and why they are the way they are, so that you may better fit in, when needed... I don't think I need to spend any more words in this regard, concerning Nikola and the other not!thems, whose intellect and wit ar far more keen than they give away, always taking advantage of the social contract to pervert it, always trying to pass themselves as lacking in understanding, as innocent, when they understand what they are doing full well. And how it will end... I will, however, take advantage of these characters to move to the next point, which I feel must be addressed. The body horror! What's a horror podcast without blood and guts, now and then?

Flaying. Flensing. And they always suffer. But I ask you: what is the gesture of peeling one's skin, to inhabit it, if not the carnal embodiment of the desire to know? To peel back the surface, to see what is contained within, what of it will escape, now that the barrier is breached and freedom is near? Touching, smelling, tasting, seeing, feeling... knowing. Practicle example of this attitude, Anatomy Class. Learning the insides to understand the world around you. The fear of embodiment into a static, fixed identity and the compulsion towards becoming the living embodiment of a fixed identity, only to abandon it and be undone and reborn anew. Knowing what it is to be human, a specific human, and then slipping back int othe comfort of unknwing it. Only to start again in the inescapable process. And do you know why they always suffer? Of course, bodily harm is painful in the most apparent of ways, but to keep with the metaphore, their victims suffer in body, what they suffer in spirit in being bared, revealed, made known... To be know is always a risk that bears a percentage of sorrow, with it. To be known in truth, for what one is and to be known in misunderstanding, for what one is no tyet taken to be.

Categorising. Learning. Underatanding. Explaining. All viable reactions to fear, but not unique to the Eye, for there are as many ways to go about them in actions as one can come up with accoring to their essence and attitude.

But, unlike the Eye, which only observes eschewing experience, can you really, fully know without it? Are you really better fed, without it?

One thing I'm curious about is the way people perceive fear (both the entities and the emotion) changes based on the entity they align with.

For example I'm very Eye aligned and I tend to respond to fear by wanting to categorise it, learn about it, and understand it. I'm afraid the most of things that I can't see, know, or understand.

Idk I'm just curious if that sort of obvious link was present for anyone else.

[httydfirefly]

LonelyEyes text fic - but actually it's my friend's group chat (Part Three)

Contains swearing.

Peter Lukas: @Elias Bouchard your lawyer sucks

Simon Fairchild: Hey, I just want to keep my head

Elias Bouchard: your lawyer hasn’t even showed up idiot

Peter Lukas replying to @Elias Bouchard: @Gregor Orsinov 😭😭😭 don’t make me look bad

Simon Fairchild: Anyway, I will have the papers if you two will happily sign at the Christmas party You will both be able to have a good read of the contract before signing and I am sure it will be acceptable terms

Elias Bouchard: Simon do me justice. Make me proud

Peter Lukas: @Breekon & Hope Deliveries be my backup lawyer, Gregor abandoned me by having a life

Elias Bouchard: what a loser just like my ex husband. That bitch

Simon Fairchild replying to @Peter Lukas: I am happy to be your backup backup if you need

Elias Bouchard: HEY you are my lawyer

Peter Lukas replying to @Simon Fairchild “You will both be able to have a good read of the contract before signing and I am sure it will be acceptable terms”: I doubt that

Simon Fairchild: I can remain in impartial third party that works for the best of both of you

Elias Bouchard: do not side with the enemy

Peter Lukas: BRUH,

Elias Bouchard: ill pay you better than him

Simon Fairchild: just trying to make some business hear…

Peter Lukas: Simon, you conniving little shit

Elias Bouchard: even my lawyer isn’t loyal to me 😔 just like my bitch ex husband

Peter Lukas: Stop being so dramatic

Simon Fairchild replying to @Elias Bouchard “ill pay you better than him”: What are we talking?

Elias Bouchard: money of your dreams

Peter Lukas: You’re always like this All you do is complain Whine whine whine

Elias Bouchard: ok C H E A T E R

Peter Lukas: HEY YOU AGREED TO THE THREESOME then yoU made it awkward by telling the third party to leave

Rosie Zampano: I can offer my services as a lawyer if needed

Elias Bouchard replying to @Peter Lukas: NOT WITH THAT PERSON

Peter Lukas: YOU DIDN’T SPECIFY

Elias Bouchard: IT WAS… YOUR MUM

Peter Lukas replying to @Rosie Zampano: No, playing a lawyer onscreen doesn’t qualify you I’m afraid

Peter Lukas replying to @Elias Bouchard: YOU SAID SHE WAS HOT 😒 Elias Bouchard: SHE IS but… you are more

Peter Lukas: NOT LIKE THAT YOU CREEP Oh now you wanna say this AFTER the divorce 👍👍👍👍👍👍 👍👍👍👍👍👍 😀😀😀😀😀😀

Elias Bouchard: I hope your life is long and horrible

Peter Lukas: I hope your pillow is warm on all sides

Elias Bouchard: jokes on you I enjoy that

Peter Lukas: SEEEEE you’re a weirdo This is why we can never work out

Elias Bouchard: just cause you’re scared I’m too much of a badboy for you you can’t handle my amazing personality and body I’m too good for you

Peter Lukas: IM THE BADBOY I even used a REAL buffer knife to carve my potato That’s like …brave

Elias Bouchard: cheap shit

Peter Lukas: but I tried bbg

Elias Bouchard: yet failed

[magpod-confessions]

I've been thinking about Nikola and finally realised what is so wrong with her name for me

my first language is russian, but I also speak polish and a bit of ukrainian and for all of them Nikola's surname is grammatically incorrect

Orsinov comes from Gregor, and it's fine here, it's a masc surname, but in most slavic languages (to my knowledge) surname changes based on gender. so to be correct she should be Nikola Orsinova

I don't know where to go with it, but it's just a fun little thing. it's subtle but makes her just a-little-not-right and that just what the stranger is about, isn't it? some smallest thing, that makes you doubt it's humanity

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[wormconsumer]

Based off a post I saw with the idea that Robert Smirke had fourteen friends, each falling too/representing a different entity, with Smirke himself being the Extinction.

To get the obvious ones out of the way: Jonah Magnus as the Eye, Mordechai Lukas as the Lonely, Maxwell Rayner as the Dark, and George Gilbert Scott as the Buried; these ones are all canon. Not directly canon but a pretty reasonable assumption is Simon Fairchild as the Vast; we know Simon had Maxwell Rayner help him with his Awful Deep ritual in 1853, which was only a few years before Smirke died, and Smirke hung out with Rayner a ton, so it makes sense for Simon to be part of the group (though by a different name; he only started going by “Simon Fairchild” in the 1930s). Another fairly reasonable assumption, in my opinion, is John Franklin for the Hunt. Franklin is canonically a Hunt avatar in The Magnus Archives, his real-life timeline overlaps with Smirke and the rest, and Rayner was canonically interested in his expedition, which was probably because he wanted to use Franklin’s knowledge of arctic exploration for his ritual, but could also imply they knew each other, and therefore, Smirke’s gang.

For the Corruption, my first thought was John Amherst, but he only became an avatar during the Second Boer War, which was about half a century after Smirke’s time. Instead, John Snow is a better fit. He was an English physician who lived during the same time as Smirke, and he had something going on; his descendant Neil Thompson has a syringe that belonged to Snow that had Corruption properties, so Snow fits. For the Slaughter, we could go with Charles Fleming. We know he was in China from at least the beginning of the First Opium War in 1839, and Smirke and Jonah and the rest were up and active on their supernatural studies since at least the 1810s, so it’s theoretical Fleming could have hung out with them, even though he didn’t become touched by the Slaughter until he went to China. Maybe he came back later, though he was in China at least until 1862. Alternatively, William Hall, the actual captain of the Nemesis, could be an option, his lifetime overlaps pretty well with Smirke’s, though there is no evidence he interacted with the Slaughter besides his interactions with Fleming and the Nemesis. Still, he was probably a bit more high-society that Fleming, so I kind of prefer him. Finally, for the more reasonable ones, we have Joey Grimaldi for the Stranger. Grimaldi’s timeline overlaps with Smirke’s, and we know he was affected by the Stranger even before he was turned into Nikola Orsinov. The reason I’m choosing Grimaldi instead of Gregor Orsinov or Nikolai Denikin is that we know for sure he was in England while Smirke was, unlike the other two.

Now for the more out-there guesses. For the Flesh, there are a few options. One is Eustace Wick, the Lutheran priest-turned-cannibal, who did live at the same time as Smirke, but he became an avatar in 1832, died in 1845, and has no evidence that he’d even been to England, considering he’s American. The other options would be Benjamin Carlisle, Benjamin’s unnamed wife, or possibly some other relative or descendant of theirs. I find this one the more likely choice, because Jonathan Sims specifically wonders how Benjamin Carlisle’s wife was able to give her statement to the Magnus Institute, considering she starved to death in a cave on the Oregon Trail in 1845, as well as the fact that an apparent descendant of her, Toby Carlisle, is living in England by the 21st Century and has enough of a connection with the Flesh to be pretty severely affected by the failure of the Last Feast ritual. The unnamed Mrs. Carlisle being the Flesh representative does mean she presumably gave in and cannibalized her husband, and the timeline only gives her about a decade to have hung out with the rest before Smirke’s death, but I think that fits, considering what Smirke said about just coming up with theories about the Flesh in his statement.

The Spiral has similarly not a lot to go on. I would just say the Distortion, seeing as it’s an immortal manifestation of the Spiral itself. We know that Ivo Lenshik’s father was tormented by the Distortion in a human form, and apparently Lenshik’s great-uncle did too, implying that the Distortion did assume a humanoid form sometimes, before it was forced to by the failure of the Great Twisting ritual. Plus, Jonah Magnus clearly knows who the Distortion is, which yes, he could have learned at literally any point from the past two hundred years, but seeing as we’ve got nothing else, I’ll choose to believe. For the Web, the only older avatars of the Web we’re aware of would be the historical owners of the house at Hill Top Road. We don’t know who owned it during Smirke’s time; the closest we have are the unnamed blackmailer who died during the English Civil War in the mid-1600s, and Walter Fielding, who died in 1923. Walter’s son and grandson both owned the house for about thirty years before dying, so with the same amount of time applied, Walter couldn’t be our Web avatar. Honestly, the answer might just have to be “whichever Web avatar was owning the house at Hill Top Road during the first half of the 19th Century.”

For the Desolation, we have even less. Diego Molina founded the Cult of the Lightless Flame at some point prior to World War II, but we have no idea when, and it couldn’t have been that long, considering what Eugene Vanderstock says about the immortality of Desolation avatars having some kind of limit. The same is true of the End. The only known End avatar who was alive during Smirke’s time was Nathaniel Thorp, who was a Death at the time, and didn’t become human again until 1970. It’s unlikely that Deaths got breaks to socialize.

So, in summary, we know for sure about:

* Jonah Magnus — The Eye

* Mordechai Lukas — The Lonely

* Maxwell Rayner — The Dark

* George Gilbert Scott — The Buried

We can make some reasonable assumptions about:

* Simon Fairchild — The Vast

* John Franklin — The Hunt

We can make educated guesses about:

* John Snow — The Corruption

* William Hall — The Slaughter

* Joey Grimaldi — The Stranger

We can make complete guesses about:

* Mrs. Carlisle — The Flesh

* The Distortion — The Spiral

* Owner of the house at Hill Top Road — The Web

And we have nothing for:

* The Desolation

* The End

If anyone has ideas or things I missed, let me know.

[zabala0z]

S3 is once again killing me again with all the lore and I love it. School started up so I might be slower with my thoughts but I got episodes 92, 93, 94 and 95 to talk about!!!

MAG 92: Nothing Beside Remains

Elias makes me want to eat my phone, similar to that one guy from MAG 65 :) I was like screaming the whole time. Of course he can see everything, he literally called the police before Daisy came. I took that as "oh he has spies" but no he can see everything, I hate that. Is Jon eventually gonna get that ability or does The Eye give different gifts. Elias hasn't shown any "compellling" sort of power so I assume the latter. ALSO MORDECAI LUKAS?? I need to see a statement from a Lukas member cause what is up with that family, I'm dying.

Guess Basira is now working there. Hope Elias is paying her. the fact he won't tell Jon shit is so funny to me. So The Stranger is now, basically, the confirmed main villain. BBEG yknow? Mildly terrified, I hate circuses and mannequins so this season is gonna like body me

Not much to say on MAG 93 but whatever entity has the whole "gross shit" as its deal, I'm guessing this falls under it. Purple fungus, the obsessive cleaning, etc. Also yaaay Breekon and Hopes!! Again!11!! get out! Poor Georgie. Love her for being like "Do you even have qualifications??". Jons explanation helped me a lot because during Elias's explanations, I'm mostly just muttering curses to myself because I HATE Him. Avatars. Baller. So Jude Perry was the avatar of The Desolation (destruction, fire, etc) Michael Crew was the avatar of The Vast (sky??, emptiness, general loneliness) and then like Jon is an avatar and I'm guessing so is Elias. I think you can have more then one avatar but anyways.

MAG 94: Dead Woman Walking

Jon refereed to the entity as "The End" which, using my notes, was mentioned in Mary keys statement when gertrude asked where the book came from and Mary said "The End" and said she could never serve it, not finding death interesting. Wild that she can't feel fear anymore??? Like damn. This kinda read as someone in a depressive state in some form. Or like a nihilistic person. Cause like "everything ends, time, it has already ended". Wild.

Not much to say on MAG 95 but I did understand the context vaguely which is more then what I can say for the other war statements. Also Martin and Basira friendship??? Love it. She gets really engrossed in books. I dunno if she was like lying or this is something supernatural related but I love Basira

MAG 96: Return to Sender

Literally screeching oh my god. The fact these things just hijacked this mans business is almost funny. They also talked with a circus ringmaster. Nikola Orsinov? gregor Orsinov? A different one. the statement was given 1996 and Gregor was the leader around the 40's but Nikola, by her description I think, sounded young. So. Who was this ringmaster? Maybe Im getting the timeframe wrong. or they're like eternal. Maybe they like just shed skin and steal a new body, just going by the same last name- okay I don't know.

Also, SARAH BALDWIN???? Welcome back girl. The fact the gorilla skin was stolen by gertrude means she was trying to stop The Unknowing, and likely that's why its been this long for it to happen, because they need that skin. Ew. The Stranger loves skin a little too much. Also Sarah being filled with sawdust and cloves. Great. If Not Sasha was shot, would we have seen that? Or is it different with every one of those, NotThem.?

Anyways, I think that's everything. Every statement, I'm kinda thinking, "which entity does this fall under" now that I know the surrounding universe. Tough since I only know 6 by name and I think there's more. 6 too many entities for this world though