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So... Volume 1 showed Pyrrha as being pretty passionate about Faunus rights (almost on the same level as Blake, who is a Faunus herself AND a former member of the White Fang), while Volume 3 revealed that her favorite Fairy Tale is "The Shallow Sea". Fairy Tales of Remnant (the book) would later reveal that Fairy Tale to be a Faunus Creation Myth.
Which like, has me wondering...
Do you think it's possible Pyrrha's dad is a Faunus?
World of Remnant did imply it would be a coinflip on whether the child of a human and a Faunus would end up as one or the other, after all.
Yeah, that could definitely be the case.
In fact, now that I think about it, Pyrrha's dad being a Faunus even plays well into her mythology allusion.
After all, Achilles is actually a demigod via his sea-goddess mother Thetis. So in keeping with the Team JNPR genderbending, it would make total sense for Pyrrha to have a non-human father.
Or maybe there isn't a genderbending and Pyrrha actually has two moms whichjustfurtherprovidesmoresetupforRosebirdParents- okay I'll just stop talking now :D
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No no no, you don't understand. "We've got forever to figure out what the rest means" is Charles making sure that they don't end up like Orpheus and Eurydice, even if it's subconsciously because he never finished the ending of the myth. Because if Charles would have stopped to think through what Edwin fully meant by what he said, or stopped to think through how he feels and give him a longer response based on that, even for just a second of consider, the demon monster thing would've gotten to Edwin. The confession was to Charles what Orpheus turning to find Eurydice was. "Oh if Charles actually reciprocated Edwin's feelings he would have told him then" is the exact same vibes as "If Orpheus really loved Eurydice he wouldn't have turned around", in the sense that no, because Charles and Orpheus loved Edwin and Eurydice so much, even if for the former it was something that would never develop into more, they did what they had to. The only difference is that Edwin and Charles have "forever to work out the rest", they survived to be able to have at least that, while Orpheus and Eurydice don't, and are deemed a tragedy.
#dead boy detectives#edwin payne#edwin paine#charles rowland#paynland#painland#does this actually make sense or am i just waffling a load of nonsense here?#greek mythology references/allusions are my favourite thing ever#orpheus and eurydice#charles not giving himself time to 'properly' respond is him making sure he doesn't 'turn around' and lose Edwin to the demon#on a funnier note what the hell even is that demon doll head scorpion thing and does it have a name because what???
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The Sword of Damocles by Richard Westall
#damocles#sword#art#richard westall#neoclassicism#neoclassical#dionysius i#dionysius#king#courtier#power#peril#fear#allusion#sicily#syracuse#magna graecia#ancient greece#ancient greek#cicero#maidens#swords#horsehair#court#dionysius i of syracuse#mediterranean#classical antiquity#timaeus of tauromenium#europe#european
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Lester/Apollo as a character lends himself so easily to Icarus metaphors and it's hilarious to me. Like this man is so haunted by his past mistakes that it starts popping up in the story unintentionally
#im biased bc Icarus is my all time favorite greek myth and i see it in literally anything and everything so-#is metaphor the right word here? comparisons? allusions? idk#lester papadopoulos#toa#the trials of apollo#trials of apollo#pjo hoo toa#arley originals
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I just had a thought.. if in canon ISAT Siffrin is supposed to be like Sisyphus, what if in OSIS Isabeau is like Atlas (carrying the weight of the heavens…) 👀
hey so yknow how loop calls isabeau 'sunlight' in the one drabble i posted? yeah they almost called him atlas instead.
this is correct. this is good. you get me, you understand.
#basil answers#asks#biocrafthero#of stitches in sequence#i ended up bailing on the allusion to atlas because obviously something like greek mythology wouldnt exist in the isat world#but it was THERE and i THINK ABOUT IT OFTEN.#one whos punishment never ends and one whoms change would spell disaster#i love narrative symmetry!!!!
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RWBY SIMIN'S ALLUSION
To celebrate the exciting news of RWBY finding a new home, I want to celebrate the fans who kept moving forward & never gave up on our beloved franchise. And what better way than to review the most popular RWBY OC Team? SLVR is a fanmade project by Mark Zhang. These fanmade trailers blew the internet away with just how CLOSE he replicated Monty’s style with the RWBY trailers. Music, settings, weapons, moon shot, everything. One thing he does the best, however, is his incorporation of fairy tales & mythology. Today I want to honor his characters beginning with the one who started it all, Simin Megistus (video linked below if you haven’t watched his Silver Trailer).
Simin Megistus is based on Hermes Trismegistus from Greek mythology. Hermes’s Roman counterpart is Mercury, who has a reference character in RWBY proper with Mercury Black. This explains the similarities between the two characters. Luckily, Simin fights for justice. His name means “silver” which is why it is spelled that way. This can be a nod to mercury also being known as “quicksilver”. His last name, Megistus, means “greatest”, and is derived from Hermes’ last name, Trismegistus.
Hermes was a famous author who wrote several pieces of historic text. His most famous work was Kore Kosmou, detailing several ideals & cosmetology (moon, stars, etc,). The book continuously references the 4 elements (Fire, Water, Air, Earth). Simin’s weapon is named Kore Kosmou & can conjure weapons made from the 4 elements. Hermes is often depicted with a traveler’s cloak said to have magic abilities. This is why Simin’s weapon is a jacket.
Hermes practiced alchemy, which is basically the foundation of chemistry. It is the study of changing the characteristics of matter. This is done by extracting, merging, or manipulating elements like metal, fire, gold, etc. Simin’s weapon allows for him to manipulate dust & form different elemental weapons, allowing for various fighting styles.
All of Team SLVR has a moon/lunar theme, but it is the most present with Simin’s character. He represents the element of the moon, silver. He has a moonshot in the trailer (standard). His symbol is a moon & it's different craters. His weapon has 4 different “moon phases” where each of the craters hold a different types of dust. The song used in his trailer is “Paper Moon” from Soul Eater. Also, Hermes & his counterparts are said to be deities of the moon.
Hermes is the protector of thieves, merchants, & orators. This translates to Simin fighting the White Fang in his trailer, thieves who are trying to smuggle dust (merchants) & spread the word for social justice as Faunus activists (orators).
Hermes was also known as the “Argus-slayer” for defeating Argus, the 100 eyed giant, with his mighty sword. This is referenced with the final boss in Simin’s Trailer, Banesaw 2.0. His White Fang mask is significantly more detailed than the others, having emphasis on circles & dots in its design, resembling several eyes.
The white fang is smuggling dust, as they do in Volumes 1-2 of RWBY. Simin in a way represents the dust “fighting back”. Simin can also represent the full moon itself, causing the beasts of the night (White Fang) to ravage. Notice the trailer takes place at night & stars are surrounding him.
Simin has become more than a simple fan character over the years. He is the symbol of the RWBY Fandom, & his creation shows how inspiring & beloved the show is to its audience. Mark Zhang has said that he was deeply motivated by Monty Oum's work, & this led to the creation of the Silver Trailer. Everyday I hope Monty could somehow see the impact he had on others. Rest In Piece❤️
Here is the Silver Trailer for those who haven't see it or just want to look back on it :) love you Mark & keep moving forward.
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#rwby#slvr#simin megistus#mark zhang#fndm#youtube#hermes#mercury black#quicksilver#banesaw#argos#rwby allusion#allusion rwby#rwby analysis#rwby meta#greenlight volume 10#greek mythology
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happy ides of march to julius little and his death scene
#saints row#julius little#saints row 2#i will NEVER get over the allusions to roman and greek mythology ohhh my god#normal man. i am normal
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bc of that EPIC musical that's slowly rolling out & getting popular I'm thinking abt my old swap au again where bob "died" and helmut languished in depression for 20 years
and bc i already had my own idea for helmuts mental world involving him steering a ship in stormy waters im like
helmut mental world with some the odyssey allusions? anybody? anybody?
#cospn2#aus#jar swap au#i think was the general name that eventually came to encompass the idea#also i know im sticking greek mythology peanut butter into norse mythology jam#it wouldnt be a direct parallel but just like yknow. allusions!#man spends 20 years lost at sea trying to return to loved one. writes itself
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Finding out Odysseus's maternal grandfather was Autolycus, a literal thief and son of Hermes, implies to me that he did not get his cunning from Laertes. It also makes me want to write about Autolycus and Anticlea as a father-daughter crime duo scamming all the rich and powerful of Ancient Greece. Because you can't tell me the man wouldn't have taught his daughter a thing or two.
#greek mythology#greek myth#odysseus#the odyssey#autolycus#anticlea#i'm just saying these characters are obscure/minor enough that you could get away with a few creative liberties#could even throw in some references and allusions to the odyssey if you're feeling fancy#maybe make some use of that grove from the final book of the odyssey
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You ever do something not thinking much of it, but after you do it you realize it was actually like a genius move?
This happened to me with my story: Started it off with a fairly standard conflict; someone wants what Tuon has. But afterward I was like "Oh shit, this is a prime opportunity to show his unyielding guardianship!" But not only that, I also realized that it did a great job at reflecting his flaws and sort of foreshadowing them to the reader
Oh man THATS SO GOOD!! It is so nifty when things work out like that, I hear you- long story relatively short, you betcha.
I had something like that with Aeonian, my Tav for Baldur's Gate 3. One of their quirks that I put down on paper early on was that the places were their muscles would be are rock hard - mainly because of the fact that they're cramming a monolithically sized form's worth of matter down into a humanoid body thats eight times smaller, hence putting a lot of strain on their body as a whole, but also à la a statue for a physical form.
"Statue for a physical form.... death and rebirth themes*......statue made of rock. wait."
Because I cannot escape my hyperfixations, geology was thrown back in my face in whence I was immediately reminded of the ROCK CYCLE:
-which can be pretty well-applied to the whole death and rebirth thing, not to mention a nifty little guideline as to how their character arc can go as well as Aeonian's place as a story in of themselves (long story, involves statues though) and their tendency to 'erode' themselves per se if it means getting where they need to be. Metamorphosis also links pretty cleanly here too, not only because of the metamorphic rock and its processes but because of parallels between Aeonian (embodiment of death [at sea]) and Thanatos, the greek personification of death, who is usually represented by way of butterflies.
I'm real bad at explaining things so I apologize if none of this made a lick of sense, I promise it's a lot clearer in my head and please feel free to ask for clarity on anything!! this is probably some of my favorite character work I've done so far
*dionysus+being the literal embodiment of death [at sea,] longer story
(Please talk more about Tuon he is SO cool and I talk too much, that's some really good character writing)
#oc lore#original character#baldurs gate tav#bg3 tav#bg3#mind - Aeonian and their sister were originally created outside of Baldur's Gate for a separate project (hence the greek myth allusions)#and i kind of just plonked them in cos I didn't feel like creating a new character at the time#hence why this may seem wacko bonkers#oc#this stone theme I have going on also reflects how they act for a good while#Earlier on in the story#(at least in terms of their character in BG3)#they know they are here for one purpose;#get in#find missing sister (long story)#get out#As per detriment this also means that they're rather walled#and they only organized the adventuring party in the first place because the other three (Karlach Gale Astarion) have skills that they don'#thus actually finding their sister will go a whole lot smoother#all this to say they aren't here to make friends#but they do soften after a while (with much heat and pressure e.g combat and working together and bonding)#my oc stuff#they have so many issues man#their entire mantra basically amounts to 'if I'm not dead I'm fine' which is an idiot thing to follow when you're immortal#“I will keep moving forward as long as I breathe regardless of if there's enough of me left to move” -immortal fucking dipshit /lovingly
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So, I haven't played Curse of Darkness myself, and I've never enjoyed Netflixvania. But, I feel like I've noticed something particular, that I have not seen mentioned by anyone. And am curious what fans of Curse of Darkness specifically would think about my reading of this.
It seems to me that in game, Hector and Isaac both have names that are meaningful to their characters, but also come with connotations of another implied meaning, as each others foils, that feel just as important.
Game Isaac seems to be named in reference to the biblical Isaac, bc he is effectively a sacrificial son. But he is also out to ruin Hector in retaliation, to the point of needless cruelty, because of his grief and madness. Like Achilles, from the Iliad(or he possibly also has Ajax parrelels, another notable opponent to Hector).
And game Hector seems named for the Illiad's Hector, bc like him, he is at his core a sympathetic and honorable man who was nonetheless on the wrong side of a bloody conflict. But he is also cast out by a patriarchal figure, like bliblical Isaac's brother and counterpart, Ishmael. (There's also possibility for Achilles parallels himself, thanks to his vengeance quest over his own lost love. Which also seem to be part of his narrative comparisons to Dracula)
So I suspect that the reason N!Isaac ends up with a sort of unearned version of game Hector's arc and themes, that is hard to tell if it was even intentional, is because:
Unlike in the bible, in the *Quran*, Isaac and Ishmael have their roles switched. Ishmael is the central focus instead of Isaac, and is the sacrifice, before he is cast out into the desert, and becomes a founding figure in islam. This is probably why Dracula literally finds N!Isaac in the sahara desert(and banishes him there again).
So, N!Isaac, as a muslim, is no longer treated as a reference to the biblical Isaac, but is an Ishmael archetype, which *is what Hector is supposed to be.* But N!Hector's role as being his foil is gone, and instead he's at best there to weakly prop up how much better N!Isaac is by comparison. (And I don't believe him being "sacrificed" to Ellis' fetish writing counts either, bc he's framed more as a pet dog than a lamb, and it's not really connected much to his relationship with N!Isaac.)
Meanwhile, because N!Hector is no longer a proper foil, or respected by the narrative, he's also lost all symbolism behind the name Hector. And in turn, N!Isaac has completely lost all of game Isaac's illiad parallels.
Game Isaac as Achilles' less flattering qualities - of arrogance and need for recognition through glory, his grief and self-hatred over not being there to protect the person who meant the most to him, and his uncalled for ruthlessness and disrespect for his opponent, that ultimately leads to his death -
Or possibly Ajax, who was often considered second best to Achilles, who felt entitled to Achilles armor, and when passed over had violent delusions that lead to him killing himself with Hector's sword
- is just completely missing as an axis in N!Isaac. He doesn't even really get any *positive* Achilles or Ajax symbolism iirc, or any illiad Hector symbolism to complete the reversal either. His character is a one note(and clumsy) Ishmael archetype, who can only really be held up as great by the narrative no matter what he's done, or is doing.
Obviously, N!Isaac's freedom/agency arc is also tied up in him being a former slave. But I do think that him being muslim, and the way he's framed akin to Ishmael, is meant to line up with it. Which decision was made first/whether it was at the same time is debatable. But either way, it leads to him being an almost immediate inversion of game isaac's character from the basic themes. And bc game Isaac was already designed mirroring Hector, N!Isaac would inevitably just become a low-level partial rendition of game Hector.
This all bothers me, if my suspicions are correct. It looks like hugely wasted potential, and worse, the kind of writing decision borne of not paying attention to the source materials themes, bc it wasn't respected, and thought to not have them at all. Trading dual literary references meant to reinforce two characters relationship, for a single one-sided one, is just weaker writing. To the point where it seems unthinkable to do consciously, and has to have been from not even realizing there was something there to leave out. I come away feeling like the nfcv writers think they're smarter than the games writers, but with little evidence to show that. And that these characters deserved better.
Is this a fair interpretation or am I reaching too far with CoD's themes? Did I forget anything major about this in regards to nfcv? Has this all been mentioned before, and I'm just re-treading basic analysis? Feel free to lmk, bc I am but some guy with a mythology special interest passing through, who goes slightly insane wnv I see allusions to things I recognize, go unnoticed and neglected by supposedly professional writers, lol.
#also i can't shake the feeling that#This was all just decided by reading the Wikipedia pages on biblical isaac#Seeing that ishmael is more important in islam#And thinking you will be the first ever biggest brain writer to write about ishmael as more important than isaac#When we in fact have a work that did that it is called#THE QURAN#idk it just feels like an inexperienced writer's first draft idea in execution lol#Also I think it says something nfcv acknowledged Hector is Greek via skintone#but then ultimately disregarded his greek myth allusions as unimportant#Anti netflixvania#Obv this isn't a full analysis of possible illiad and/or biblical allusions in CoD lol#I am definitely not qualified to do that and would have to actually play CoD#For one thing I have no idea how Trevor factors into it altho I doubt these allusions are meant to be completely 1:1#That is nfcv's style instead lol
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elif shafak, from the island of missing trees
#cheers friends; this has been taking up some of my brain space today#the way it gives recognising and tracking the self in the physical presence of another#there is also the allusion to greek creation myths#with the 'becoming whole again'#and the mirror image suggesting a reflection of the self; a second self; an natural predestined alter in the lover#very fitting considering this book is about cyprus#the island of missing trees#elif shafak#quote#on physical intimacy#on love#prose#otp tag
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I wrote this Fantasy AU!Ateez Drabble a while back, here, take it!
No really, please, it’s been sitting in my Google drive for almost 4 years
Word Count: 336
TW: None
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With two kingdoms at war, it was as if Hades himself was at their side, and he perhaps was. The whole day had been almost too perfect, and Hongjoong smirked, invisible due to the cover of the outer castle walls, but caused goosebumps to come over the other 7 masked figures. For months, the group, along with a small faction within the walls, had been waiting for the perfect chance to finally seize control, and here it was. They had been monitoring the feud for months, and watched as the tensions rose, until finally, like watching an egg drop to the dusty market ground, it broke, and what was once a peaceful alliance was forgotten in favor of bloodshed. To say the lord of the underworld himself didn’t have a part in it would be a lie, an understatement, a laughable one at that.
The light of a newly blazing fire leaks over the stone wall, and a bit of moss crumbles and falls onto the ground around them.
It was time for their arrival. Instead of just simply barging in and taking the crown, that would have been a death wish with no real change, after all, the crown was just a gaudy piece of metal placed on a target. They instead opted for bigger, better, more ambitious. The throne. An unshakable symbol of power, he who holds the crown may look good in front of a nation, but he who sits upon the throne has the true power.
A clink and a long drawn out creak, followed by dust only lost souls know how long had been accumulating. A hiss, a snap and a spark followed by a lantern sputtering to life, illuminating the escape route used only by the king’s court for Seonghwa, Mingi, San, and Jongho. The royalty themselves, a panel of 12, had a separate route that the other 4, Hongjoong, Yeosang, Wooyoung, and Yunho are already on their way to shut down and eliminate those who used it to flee.
#ateez drabbles#ateez fic#ateez au#I probably most definitely could have found a better Greek god allusion but it’s ok#kim hongjoong#park seonghwa#jeong yunho#kang yeosang#choi san#song mingi#jung wooyoung#choi jongho#Ateez#ateez ot8
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Okay, new WIP Wednesday Game
I'm going to number each fic, and underneath that number and title, I will post the last 3 paragraphs of that fic I have written. I'm excluding the one I plan on updating next, so Sweets and Secrets won't be here this week.
But you can send an ask, a reply, or a reblog with one or more numbers or titles, and I will set a 25-minute timer and work on those fics
Which for me means I'll probably get about 500 words worth of progress if I can focus
Feel free to do this too if you want!
Here are the fic numbers and titles if you don't want spoilers:
Angels and Demons
Dark Gaia Boom Sonadow (Title is a WIP)
H&P Whispangle one-shot (Title is a WIP)
Immortality (Shadamy Week 2023)
The Heart of the Ark
Here we go, fics below the cut! Spoilers ahead!
TW(s) // The Whispangle WIP touches on a past suicide in that AU where I left off, so do tread carefully
And the Immortality Shadamy fic alludes to some of what Zeus tends to do in Greek Mythology, but it does not outright state what it is, and I tried to keep it as vague as possible.
Angels and Demons
“We should be safe here,” the echidna said, carefully setting Shadow down on the ground. “Now can you explain who you really are?”
“Could I get your name first?” Shadow asked.
“Oh,” the echidna said, as if he’d been startled. “I am Knuckles, the last of the mighty Echidnas.”
2. Dark Gaia Boom Sonadow (Title is a WIP)
Tails stood there for a little longer, then a look of determination set itself onto his face, and he ran out of the hospital with nothing more than a rushed goodbye.
Sonic was about to try to follow him when someone called his name behind him. He turned to find a tired beaver with a pair of glasses and a clipboard standing in the doorway. “Your friend is stable,” she said, almost as if she could hardly believe it. “He’s still unconscious but he looks like he’ll pull through.”
Sonic sighed, his shoulders finally relaxing. “Phew,” he said. “For a minute there I thought he was a goner.”
3. H&P Whispangle one-shot (Title is a WIP)
Whisper stroked Tangle’s fingers with her thumb. “I know,” she said. “I hear you mutter someone’s name sometimes in your sleep. You tell them not to jump.”
“My father.” Tangle shifted away from Whisper. “He didn’t listen.”
They were both quiet for a moment, until Whisper asked, “How old were you?”
4. Immortality (Shadamy Week 2023)
“Then come along.”
Hades commanded Cerberus to stand, and they continued their way through the Fields of Punishment. Hades avoided looking at Kore, whom he could practically feel the waves of disgust and anger rolling off of.
He had to admit, Kore had a point. There were many people who could be argued didn’t belong here—especially if Zeus had any say in it, given they often did the same things the thunder god got away with on the daily.
5. The Heart of the Ark
“Focus on exhaling,” Tails said. “Your body has too much carbon dioxide from the air in there. Try and get as much of it out as you can.”
Sonic nodded and pushed himself to his feet, exhaling forcefully. “Let’s find Knuckles,” he said. “Unless he found a big ugly monster too.”
Amy nodded and followed as the boys set out down the hallway.
#wip wednesday#fanfic#fanfic wips#shadamy#sonadow#whispangle#tw // allusions to suicide#greek mythology au#hedgehogs and privateers#sonic#sonic fanfic
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‘Cowboy don’t mean Lone Ranger’
Powm’
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It isn't enough for me to obsess over the complicated, angsty canon Hatchetfield characters and how they relate to the lore and worldbuilding, because I'm compelled to make an OC who's complicated and angsty and related to the lore and worldbuilding to also obsess over.
#i can't wait for you to meet her!#she has parental chronic trauma she has a touch of the gift she has strong allusions to greek mythology what's not to love?#she has themes! and motifs!#she comes with her own au where 'yellow jacket' ends happily but i am also thinking about her in canon timelines
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