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Ok. So.
"Oh my god, no" is a great pull quote. Looks great on a tweet, great on a t-shirt, but the actually interesting thing he said is buried in the article - "That’s the absolute best version of that movie that you could possibly imagine in the time that was given.”
It's no secret that Gilroy came on after the directors cut, with a limited timeframe for rewrites and reshoots. He ended up running a lot of those reshoots and his regular editor (and brother) John also joined the edit team. They had maybe six months (less with sound mix, VFX etc). Gilroy ended up with a screenplay credit which means that he must have written at least a third of the final film. Again, came on after the directors cut. He rewrote at least a third of the directors cut. And he did the best he could in the time he had.
But the thing is, Andor is a do-over of Rogue One.
There's an undercover break-in to a secure imperial facility by a group of mismatched rebels. Cassian spends time in an Imperial prison labour camp, just like Jyn did (very briefly) in the opening of R1.
There's the devastating death of a parent, a mining city with its own culture being slowly crushed under an Imperial occupation, a career driven Imperial enemy who you kinda root for cos they're surrounded by even bigger assholes.
There's a rebel leadership divided about how much they can sacrifice on missions that might lead to nothing. The Heist crew even has a queer couple divided by one person's single minded faith and use of violence, and a key team member who is an imperial traitor.
And Cassian's central character arc in Andor is going from an apolitical survivor who only looks out for himself because he's paid the price for trying to change the system, to someone who is willing to die for the cause.
Which, on paper, is also Jyn's arc in Rogue One.
But Andor had time. It has about four times the runtime of Rogue One to actually dig deep into the characters, and to actually set-up and play out tensions in the heist and prison arcs.
And it also had time in pre-production. Time to write the damn scripts. Gilroy had time to bounce ideas back and forth with his brother Dan and Beau Willimon, stress testing the story and the episodes and the characters, then they split the scripts and wrote full arcs. In the scripting stage. Not after principal photography, like he had on Rogue One. From those scripts, Luke Hull had the time to build a full, immersive sets and worlds. Michael Wilkinson got to develop a language around the costuming. Nicholas Britell had time to write a full symphony for the score (Michael Giaccino had 4 weeks to write Rogue One's music).
So if you want to know what Tony Gilroy's directors cut of Rogue One looks like - it's Andor.
#rogue one#star wars#rogue one a star wars story#andor#rebelcaptain#going rogue podcast#andor series#jyn erso#cassian andor#anyway stream going rogue lol
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dunno how else to explain this but this is every single Star Wars character vs Luke Skywalker
#star wars#luke skywalker#going rogue podcast#specifically han#and din#but also literally everyone else!
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i binged all of rogues! the podcast on a recent trip and had an absolute blast so here's a sketch dump of the sillies. more sketchbook stuff under the cut
#hey folks! hope your summer is going well and youre staying cool#im having so much fun with this guys and if you like the rogues i completely recommend checking out the podcast!#codot is doing the lords work over there#thats all for now! cheers and stay safe#rogues! the podcast#fanart#the riddler#scarecrow#jonathan crane#batman#lasagoofs#rogues the podcast#codotverse
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#vent art mainly#riddler#scriddler#jonathan crane#been going thru it and i wish i were ded#my art#the riddler#edward nygma#rogues the podcast
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First rogues!podcast art and it's this... Woe the idea in my head be upon ye.
#rogues! the podcast#god forbid a girly do anything#cv!madhatter#cv!jervistetch#I'm going to aid my sleepy silly head because holy shit I'm tired
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The genuine struggle of being a Riddler fan when all three of his most popular incarnations are different levels of deeply ooc for completely different reasons and you find all three insufferable but they're his most talked about because they're the only non-comic versions of him that aren't Jim Carrey, in three episodes of an animated series, or made of lego. You still reblog stuff about the ones you don't like though because the art is nice but god damn does it ache a little.
#edward nygma#the riddler#I'm being a hater#The other non comic versions I'd recommend are both in fucking podcasts#Which#If it's a struggle to get people to read a comic then boy howdy I can't imagine a podcast is going to be any easier#And then you have the issue of “this comic series was great for Eddie- genuinely awesome characterization. The rest of it sucked.”#Which happens surprisingly often#Shout out to Killing Time for having one of the best Riddler's I've seen in years#And then dropping the ball so hard on everything else even the dudebros didn't want it#Literally the worst comic I've ever recommended to someone for this exact reason#He's also gets pulled into the edgy violent 'joker baby' behaviour for the rogues that DC keeps shilling now or made a joke#So even when I think I found a good eddie in a comic there's only like a 40% chance it ends that way#And yes I get that's because the rogues act as tools of the narrative before characters#So their characterization will be sacrificed in both comics and adaptations to push a plot along#But goddamn if I don't hate it every single time#Batman confidential you will always be famous
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even Spotify can tell how much of a dc geek I am.
#batman#dc comics#joker#arkham asylum#dc joker#harley quinn#two face#batman rogues#riddler#jonathan crane#batman rouges#rogues! the podcast fanart#batman rouges gallery#rouges gallery#rouges! the podcast#batman audio adventures#btaa#btas harvey dent#Spotify#anywyas everyone should go listen to the batman audio adventures they finally put all 10 episodes on spotify!!!!#spotify wrapped#spotify wrapped 2023
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Someone get him his glasses, the idiot can't see shit
#I'm almost caught up im on s6 yippee#then I’ll go back to doodling other riddlers#riddler#riddler fanart#codotverse#rogues! the podcast#bathtub's art
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words cannot express how badly i want to see the forbidden Game of Thrones pilot
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Its him! My emotional support unhinged old man who I need to put into a tin can so I can microwave him and see what happens!
Companion portrait to my Edward one. This Jonathan belongs to @roguespodcast
#station art#codotverse#jonathan crane#rogues! the podcast#rogues podcast#Men who I want to study under a microscope#i need to know whats going on with him and scarecrow#like give me the juicy details#i wouldve added more flairs like i did with ed#but jon is such a simple man there wasnt much i can add without it feeling off
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sum of my fave frames of the rogues! animatic
it’s slowly coming together. i’m right at the end. i’m going insane making it but it’s a lot of fun :-)
#batman#my art#dc fanart#the riddler#batman fanart#edward nashton#dc riddler#edward nygma#edward nigma#the scarecrow#dc scarecrow#jonathan crane#rogues! the podcast#rogues the podcast#going crazy#and i’m exhausted#cant wait to not post the final thing bc i’m slowly hating it#bc i’ve been looking at it for so long im starting to not like my art#does anyone else get like that#or just me
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JASON TODD JUMPSCARE. (just started season 5)
#what the fuck#whys he here#he sounds like a surfer#AND DICK GRAYSON TOO#WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON#jason todd#red hood#codotverse#rogues the podcast
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got into rogues the podcast this will be my personality for at least the next few months
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it's hard getting into multiple things at the same time because holy shit what should i go for first
#juggling tma sherlock hozier rogues! the podcast all st the same time and i dont know whether to laugh or cry#it's funny but like. okay how do i consume all this all at once#because#i need to#also it's funny because i go to twitter and i see on tl someone talking about “”“jon”“” and it's always a guessing as to which jon they mea#jonathan crane.... or... jonathan sims ....#anyway yeah#may the gods help me#remo rambles#also i jusr saw but i meant guessing game. woops 😓😓😓😓
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Bro I just finished Rouges! and holy shit!-
Idk how far you are so erm
✨️Rouges Spoilers Ahead✨️
The fight between Ed and Jon in the restaurant made me cry- Like Oh God. Followed by Grayson getting hospitalized and the fight with Bruce. And Wale about Dick---- good lord all mighty
ITS SO GOOD. <- (Also just finished catching up with Rogues!) The fight was really fucking good I loved how all the background noise just stopped when they really started getting into it. I'm not a huge fan of the bats characterizations but I did love bruce getting his ass handed to him <3
#asks <3#ty for the ask!!#rogues! the podcast#rogues! spoilers#if anyone has any similar podcasts to listen to now. pleek.#im finishing up unburied atm and i listened to 5 mins of audio adventures and tapped out#not a podcast guy but its hitting this week what can i say!#probably just going to end up relistening to rogues bc its short and good
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may god forgive me for the person I'm about to become today.
#ooc | and i won't be part of this in the end#I DIDNT EXPECT THEM TO DROP THE ENTIRE FUCKING SERIES AT ONCE.#riddler podcast dropped n he's my favorite rogue so. im gonna go a lil insane.
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