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goingroguepod · 2 years ago
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Ok. So.
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"Oh my god, no" is a great pull quote. Looks great on a tweet, great on a t-shirt, but the actually interesting thing he said is buried in the article - "That’s the absolute best version of that movie that you could possibly imagine in the time that was given.”
It's no secret that Gilroy came on after the directors cut, with a limited timeframe for rewrites and reshoots. He ended up running a lot of those reshoots and his regular editor (and brother) John also joined the edit team. They had maybe six months (less with sound mix, VFX etc). Gilroy ended up with a screenplay credit which means that he must have written at least a third of the final film. Again, came on after the directors cut. He rewrote at least a third of the directors cut. And he did the best he could in the time he had.
But the thing is, Andor is a do-over of Rogue One.
There's an undercover break-in to a secure imperial facility by a group of mismatched rebels. Cassian spends time in an Imperial prison labour camp, just like Jyn did (very briefly) in the opening of R1.
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There's the devastating death of a parent, a mining city with its own culture being slowly crushed under an Imperial occupation, a career driven Imperial enemy who you kinda root for cos they're surrounded by even bigger assholes.
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There's a rebel leadership divided about how much they can sacrifice on missions that might lead to nothing. The Heist crew even has a queer couple divided by one person's single minded faith and use of violence, and a key team member who is an imperial traitor.
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And Cassian's central character arc in Andor is going from an apolitical survivor who only looks out for himself because he's paid the price for trying to change the system, to someone who is willing to die for the cause.
Which, on paper, is also Jyn's arc in Rogue One.
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But Andor had time. It has about four times the runtime of Rogue One to actually dig deep into the characters, and to actually set-up and play out tensions in the heist and prison arcs.
And it also had time in pre-production. Time to write the damn scripts. Gilroy had time to bounce ideas back and forth with his brother Dan and Beau Willimon, stress testing the story and the episodes and the characters, then they split the scripts and wrote full arcs. In the scripting stage. Not after principal photography, like he had on Rogue One. From those scripts, Luke Hull had the time to build a full, immersive sets and worlds. Michael Wilkinson got to develop a language around the costuming. Nicholas Britell had time to write a full symphony for the score (Michael Giaccino had 4 weeks to write Rogue One's music).
So if you want to know what Tony Gilroy's directors cut of Rogue One looks like - it's Andor.
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goingroguepod · 1 year ago
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dunno how else to explain this but this is every single Star Wars character vs Luke Skywalker
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lasagoofs · 3 months ago
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i binged all of rogues! the podcast on a recent trip and had an absolute blast so here's a sketch dump of the sillies. more sketchbook stuff under the cut
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ridstler · 6 months ago
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bluesfreakingart · 1 year ago
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First rogues!podcast art and it's this... Woe the idea in my head be upon ye.
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lygma-nygma · 6 days ago
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The genuine struggle of being a Riddler fan when all three of his most popular incarnations are different levels of deeply ooc for completely different reasons and you find all three insufferable but they're his most talked about because they're the only non-comic versions of him that aren't Jim Carrey, in three episodes of an animated series, or made of lego. You still reblog stuff about the ones you don't like though because the art is nice but god damn does it ache a little.
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1m0g3n09 · 11 months ago
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even Spotify can tell how much of a dc geek I am.
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bathtub4rats · 2 years ago
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Someone get him his glasses, the idiot can't see shit
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goingroguepod · 1 year ago
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words cannot express how badly i want to see the forbidden Game of Thrones pilot
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stationk17 · 2 years ago
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Its him! My emotional support unhinged old man who I need to put into a tin can so I can microwave him and see what happens!
Companion portrait to my Edward one. This Jonathan belongs to @roguespodcast
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cr0wsink · 1 year ago
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sum of my fave frames of the rogues! animatic
it’s slowly coming together. i’m right at the end. i’m going insane making it but it’s a lot of fun :-)
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unclegirl · 6 months ago
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JASON TODD JUMPSCARE. (just started season 5)
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givemeureyes · 2 years ago
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got into rogues the podcast this will be my personality for at least the next few months
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remorner · 5 months ago
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it's hard getting into multiple things at the same time because holy shit what should i go for first
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rillette · 2 years ago
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Bro I just finished Rouges! and holy shit!-
Idk how far you are so erm
✨️Rouges Spoilers Ahead✨️
The fight between Ed and Jon in the restaurant made me cry- Like Oh God. Followed by Grayson getting hospitalized and the fight with Bruce. And Wale about Dick---- good lord all mighty
ITS SO GOOD. <- (Also just finished catching up with Rogues!) The fight was really fucking good I loved how all the background noise just stopped when they really started getting into it. I'm not a huge fan of the bats characterizations but I did love bruce getting his ass handed to him <3
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caestusvulpes · 1 year ago
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may god forgive me for the person I'm about to become today.
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