#glintstone sorcery

[eghostsofdeadchildren]

Glintstone Crown:

Witch // Twin Sage // Karolos // Lazuli // Olivinus // Haima // Hierodas.

[sir-virtem]

I have being thinking about Thops Barrier and why is such discovery, most comment in the regard that this spell can reflect impresive proyectiles, such as Maliketh's Deathblade and Elden Beast's Elden Stars, great deeds without doubts, but if one take a look on others spells other reasons emerges.

When we examinate defensive spell, excluding fortifications, we can see two varieties, Seal Wall and Retaliations.

Seal Wall.- We often see this spell blocking paths, isn't absolute since in practice sometimes can be literally walk around it, is seen often in use by glintstone sorceres in their buildings, in sellia and in the erdtree; However this spell doesn't exist in isolation, it doesn't seem to exist a casting varient to cast in situs or combat, instead it require phisical holds, of course this means that can be complemented with other mechanics, locks & keys, bound to teletransportation spells. I consider that everything point that this spells derivate from the gargoyles key, in which a gargoyle statue hold a fog barrier and is require a stonekey to unlock, specially because exist glintstone related variants of it. It have the logical downturn that if it's phisical bounds are removed the spell banish, like we did with the one blocking the erdtree.

Retaliations.- This is one cause me curiosity. I consider that the original one is Golden Retaliation and so belongs to the Erdtree Incantation Family, as an improvement to the seal wall, is used by erdtree greatshield and wields the erdtree crest, which would make it in theory contemporany to Barrier of Gold at least and predescesor of Carian Retaliation, the functionality is simple cast a seal, this is hit by a proyectil and is demake into a new projectil, since the base spell is short in duration and is part of a shield probably require a phisical bound like the seal wall or is just a safety compliment. In the otherway, Carian Retaliation is an upgrade of the Phalanx spell and those are an improvement of Magic Glintblade, The latest one is impresive spell by it's own, since the spell itself cast another spell more complex and the caster just cast the base seal, the phalanx spell take this base and use to triplicate the number of glintblade but also bond them to the inital caster. The introduction of reatliation on the formula and the fact that is secret means that wasn't used in warfare before the shattering and so appeared after the carian wars, if we agree that is a derivation of Golden Retaliation then would mean that Preseptors, Lazuli Sorcerers or Glintknights studied the base spell and were capable to reintroduce into the phalanx while removing it's phisicals bounds, and that is without mention the possibility that it was probably used against them during the wars, in any case would be the only attested exchange of idea from leyndell to liurnia, in contrast that golden order is the result of the contrary, liurnian deas to leyndell.

Thops Barrier.- This spell hijack everything said before, where seal wall flaw was it's breakability and exploit of mechanism and retaliations is limitation on projectil demaking that can at same time. this deflecting spell is absolutist, is simple enough to be cast by a single sorcerer and doesn't care the number of projectils, is simple, is versatil, even use a disturbing field in it's functionality, something only done mostly by the gravity sorceries, one if not the oldest spell family that not only survive but also is still prolifict. The ways that can be employ are widely, just its use in shield already could be divergent in more ways, like of shield crash or barricade shield variants, the spell it's self could be turn into a fortification too or be improve into a greater variant with a larger radius of effect and that is without being apply into a seal to act indepently.

Thops Barrier really deserve it's own Conspectus. Magicbuilding wise is incredible, who knows how astonishing would be for an actual mage.

[pumpomulos]

[dclxviudex]

Lucil Igni in his youth. Full of inspiration and wonder.

Once praised for his brilliance and mastery in the sorcerous arts. He has been falsely accused of spreading a propaganda that would usurp the very foundation of the academy of Raya Lucaria.

Enough time has passed in the gaol, and Lucil eventually embraced his charge as he finally understood the power it brings to the narrow and fearful scholars of Raya Lucaria.

Finally im done!! i know astrologers are supposed to be the predecessors of current sorcerers but why does it look like the astrologer fit appear more fresh compared to the robes that we have now

[blasphemousclaw]

Hey, I know this is a pretty unimportant weapon that really adds nothing to the lore, but I wanted to ask about the smoldering shield.

It can be found in an area chock-full of living jars, but besides that I have no idea how to interpret it

Thank you for bringing this to my attention, this shield is very explicitly a weapon of Mt. Gelmir that I missed!

“Small shield made upon Mt. Gelmir forged from uncooling lava. Resists frost with its heat, and can even be used to deal fire damage if wielded as a weapon.”

It’s super unclear who could’ve made this shield; since the face of the shield is just magma, there aren’t any designs we can pick out that would help us place it in any era.

It’s found on a corpse in the small graveyard next to Prison Town that’s been flooded with lava… I would guess that this shield was not made by the Man-Serpents, since (though they do wield magma weapons) they can’t be found wielding this shield and they already have a different shield that they use. I also can confidently say that Rykard’s inquisition would not be messing around with magic lava. I’m going to tentatively place this shield as originating from the Gelmir serpent cult, since we know that they practiced ancient magma hexes… this type of magic could’ve been used to give this shield its eternally smoldering effect.

[katyspersonal]

since you've been playing elden ring, do you have a favorite npc so far?

Haha, my pace at discovering more of Elden Ring is SNAIL slow. And I don't mean moderately fast snail-like mobs in ER, I mean real life snails. xD So, my knowledge is still lacking. But with what I DO know, I think I can pick a favourite already!

This might come off as a surprise, but this...

...is...

...SELLEN!

Honestly, so far I liked her the most! She gives me very strong Imposter Iosefka vibe (in the scenario if after having made enough Emissaries, the Imposter also joined with them to be several small ascended people hiding in a trench coat pretending to be one BIG ascended person…). Whereas she is still, of course, a unique and interesting character on her own! It is just this kind of a female character after knowledge beyond human plane that reminds me.

I am particularly fond of the madman/woman/person characters who want to know the eldrich truths of the universe, no matter how horrifying they are and no matter what taboos they have to break, and what they have to give in exchange. I also can respect the type of 'scientist that is not above trying their own medicine' because, again, she becomes The Orb herself xd Her sassy and blunt attitude is also very appealing for me, she is a confident character with a very certain motivation! I do also enjoy how no matter what scroll she is given, her reaction is that she is familiar with this sorcery, so she is already very educated!

I've posted my analysis how in Bloodborne, Willem and 'original' Choir (from which only Yurie remains) prioritise ascending humanity and leveling with the gods as people, whereas the Choir as it is later tries to TRANSCEND humanity, and will break any taboos, just like Mensis too. In there, I actually sympathise with Willem's side and see Choir as reckless and desperate fools. But in Elden Ring, for some reason, I actually sympathise with the ideas of Sellen (and her teachers, Azur and Lusat) more instead, whereas seeing how Caria family goes about the glintstone teachings as kinda weak. Not REAL researchers. It is very funny and I can't even explain why I am so inconsistent all of a sudden; doesn't help that Rennala herself gives strong Willem and Yurie vibe! Truly, the magic of narration can make EITHER side feel more sympathetic than the other o_o"

Also, I've learned that initially her Witch's Glintsone Crown was named Grana Glintstone Crown, but it was patched out!

I feel like developers initially did want to make Sellen as important as someone who had her own school and the crown made in her likeness was a common wear too, but it never picked up because… well, her line of studies contradicted with Caria's family agenda and restrictions too much? It is one thing to just explore rocks from space, but completely different one to try and BECOME one! But I decided to go with 'they retconned the idea' rather than with 'they obscured the idea'. I mean, how exactly people would follow this "school"? They'd just become rocks lol. It is not really studying the object when you become the object.

I also honest to god cannot recall this particular shade of green glintstone anywhere else - not in an environment, nowhere on Graven Scholars, and there are no spells or staff associated with this color. So I feel like it is artificial and created BY her; would go with theme of her experimenting with turning people into seeds of a star. Heck, maybe this glintstone also had an… organic origin, too. So it cannot be turned into a weapon (unlike staffs of Azur and Lusat that ARE made from existing cosmic material), but only serve as cathalyst for intellect and sorcery of THE caster.

Also I just gotta say, I really appreciate how in these spheres everyone is always having the both horrified and awe-full expression, but she looks really blissful and calm x) She actually gave a realistic, adequate estimate towards how much she wanted to become one with the cosmos xD Lore says that even Azur and Lusat were devastated when they witnessed it, so she is arguably MORE of a madwoman than those two. Love this about her so much.

Honorable mention: so far, Nepheli is my second favorite. Her design definitely beats everyone else's amongst NPCs yet, but also she is just really appealing character. Badass warrior with two axes with great honor and will to go on no matter what, who is also very sensitive and compassionate at heart, is in touch with her vulnerable side, grieving the fallen, strong but not invincible… It is a very good example of how TO write a strong and badass female character; the power is not to be a solid brick that never cries but to be able to connect with one's insecurities and still get back up. Her being heartbroken when her father figure turned on her was very moving, for some reason this way she feels stronger than if she just got up and kicked Gideon's ass and hated him forevermore after that. I just live for this balance of both big muscles but ALSO a big heart.

[hehehe426]

@persephinae thinking about making a new astrologian on pc that looks like this

[languor-em]

Theo's Adventures in the Lands Between (EP 1: KIDNAPPED BY A TREASURE CHEST?!)

In which our heroic Tarnished gets eeby deebied directly to hell

(click for better quality,,, as best quality as a shitty doodle can get ahqksh)

[luckyberet]

Prepare the welcomes! She is coming to the capital!

[death-rebirth-senshi]

Crazy to me that people want to cast sorceries in Elden Ring without the staff. You simply do not have a wizard's temperament.

[sunlight-maggot]

Sorcery go brrrr

[elden-ring-item-descriptions]

Collapsing Stars

One of the glintstone sorceries that manipulates gravitational forces.

Fires numerous gravitational projectiles. Any foes struck will be pulled toward the caster. Charging enhances potency.

A gravitational technique mastered by the young Radahn. "I thank you for your tutelage, for now I can challenge the stars."

[sir-virtem]

I was thinking about elden ring sorceries, specifically about ancient glintstone sorceries

The only example of ancient glintstone sorcery, as far I am aware, we have is the skill of Watchdog's staff, Sorcery of the Crozier, this skill consist in summone several magic orbs around the caster, briefly after they would move forward.

From this one can extract some notions about it:

1.-Ancient Glintstone sorcery was spherical, in contrast with the Contemporany Glinstone sorcery that are rhombical/conical.

2.-Ancient Glinstone sorcery was cappable to summon multiple projectile at same time, Contemporany Glintstone sorcery can do it too, show in Twinsage, Olivinus and Lazuli conspectus.

3.-Ancient Glintstone sorcery like Contemporany Glintstone sorcery was cappable set to follow a target. In Elden ring it self isn't surprising but concidering the darksouls sorceries I would say is a big magical achievement, since was the first thing in call my attention about glintstone sorceries.

From the first point one it can be noticed one thing and extracted other

The Noticeable thing is that Ancient Glintstone and Erdtree Incantation shared shape, Elden Stars and Golden Slam both summon spherical projectiles, probable a clue to a shared origin or a tendency that used to exist.

The Extractable thing is that older spells were spherical and modern spell are rhombical/conical to be similar to falling stars, this is probably result of the influence of the ancient astrologers.

From the second point can be speculated something.

Ancient Glintstone sorcery couldn't make large spells and to compensate they summoned multiple projectils, with only one spells is hard to know but would explain the twin shard spell, make a larger projectile would require a similar methodology to make multiple projectiles. This would align again with erdtree sorcery as we don't see larger variants of their spherical projectiles but rather preffer to summon multiple projectiles.

I am curious regarding glintstone arc, it isn't accord with contemporany glintstone sorceries, is used by moonblade and loretta skill and have homologues in erdtree-golden order incantations, perhaps could be a remanent of ancient glintstone spells that survive to the contemporany times?

[charrbones-archive]

she is here to cause problems on purpose

[executionersghost]

Soot-dark fingers gingerly tangled themselves in loose wavy strands, careful not to tug.

"You proclaim that your hair is a mane and that's all there was to it, yet I can see for myself that it is stunning."

(when she returns the favor to Meca)

She smiled then, but it was not the usual mocking or sardonic thing. It was warm. It was genuine. There was the faintest of joyful flutters in her chest as she dropped her gaze downward. Oh to have found her again; her strange and enigmatic friend.

“I’m glad to hear that my efforts aren’t in vain, then.” She gave another quiet chuckle. “It’s a bit impractical. Always has been. But…” She shrugged. “I like it. It gives me something to care about.” She said, the words coming forth so easily despite the tangle of feelings in her chest.

She then goes quiet a moment, savoring this bit of human contact with a soft sigh. “Thank you. It’s nice to have someone else care too. Even if for a mere moment.”

Or rather, someone other than Varre, at least. Someone whose hands she had not come to resent. In a truth she would keep to herself, Helena’s hands felt like an odd blessing of sorts; for so marked we’re they by practice and ritual that having them placed upon the last part of herself that she could love…could Helena’s words ring true, then? Perhaps some part of her own beauty did remain…

[nullcanary]

Some fascinating information on krises that I stumbled across. It adds a few more layers of symbolism to receiving the blade from Sellen, representing various magical vows.

Source: S., W. H. J., & Capwell, T. (2022). The Kris of South-East Asia. In The Illustrated World Encyclopedia of Knives, Swords, Spears & Daggers: Through History in over 1500 photographs (pp. 94–97). Lorenz Books.