#ghosts bbc spoilers

[lttleghostlemon]

I'VE NOTICED A THING-

now im not the biggest fan of the ghosts ending- it was good but didnt make sense given s5 ep6 BUT-

alisons very last line is "Julian", because she was talking to him. In canon, the very last ghost (that..we see of course) that Alison ever talks to is Julian.

And yknow what? Julian is the first ghost Alison ever talked to. That is all, think about that for as long as you need.

[casebasket]

while all the deaths are tragic in their own way (except morally depraved julian lol but that tracks so i love it) and all pretty well done and shown to us in bits and pieces so we can fill it out ourselves which i FROTH - i think the captain's reveal hits the most because of everything that came before it. 5 series of build up, showing us how he's by the book, a strict adherence to schedule kind of person, with a deep, almost fanatic respect for the military and its rules and ranks and files to the point it's a huge part of his identity, and then - spoilers - we're shown that he died defying all of it, breaking in to an esteemed veteran event, stealing the rank of some other officer to blend in, lying about his valor, just to be close to the person he loves, placing himself in a situation so personally, intimately, individually-custom catered to be as mortifying as possible for him that it literally killed him. and he wasn't even able to say the one thing he wanted to say before death took him. he died, and now he grips the baton his love gave him forever, wearing the badge he stole that serves as a reminder of his deceit that fateful day, eternally on the edge of confession. his name revealed to us finally from the whisper of his beloved.

[b-duck]

BBC ghosts asks the question: but who will dad the dad friend? And the answer is an emotionally intuitive caveman who loves bum jokes and they’re so right ❤️

[happylittleghost]

I just love this sad gay man so much

[buriedsecrets]

Thinking about how even after he could see that the Captain had died, Havers let his hand brush over The Captain's. That was just for him. Havers just wanted to keep that touch going for as long as he could.

[tandoorinightsmare]

Besties I'm not coping physically shaking rn

So I understand that I'll grow to like this episode eventually and that I may even be able to enjoy it but right now I am broken. Not an overstatement. My parents had to do some deep breathing with me and I've cried all my makeup off this is horrible.

Good ending bad feelings

[myheartissetinmotion]

THE NEW GHOSTS PICTURES OH MY GOD.

(spoilers ahead obvi)

so of course I’m excited about the Pat storyline and all that but WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT KITTY RIGHT NOW.

she’s playing Cinderella DO YALL KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS?!?!?!?!?

there are about to be some PARALLELS drawn between the panto and her own stepsister’s cruelty. in that flashback, she wanted desperately to go to the ball, and it was Eleanor’s scheming that stopped her. another facet usually focused on in adaptations of the story is Cinderella’s grief for her mother, which is also touched upon in Kitty’s backstory

I’m guessing this might start out as the other ghosts thinking she just wants to be the center of attention and humoring her as they cast it, but as they rehearse, it’ll start bringing some of that trauma back up for her. and maybe this time the others, instead of shutting down her realizations about her past to maintain her cheeriness, will actually help her work through it.

according to Kiell’s tweet, Lolly’s work in this ep is going to be especially incredible, so I bet we’re going to get to see some SERIOUS growth, and, as self-appointed #1 Kitty Fan, I am ridiculously excited

like. she’s gonna be facing the same situation, except this time, she will triumph. she’ll be seen as the lovely one she truly is. the help and support she’s longed for will finally come to her (oh my god PLEASE let Cap play the fairy godmother that would be pure gold). she’ll dance with the prince-

-WHICH GETS A PARAGRAPH OF ITS OWN because there have been hints of her having a crush on Thomas since THE FIRST DAMN EPISODE. as someone who’s utterly obsessed with picking apart subtle little nuances in camera acting, I’m telling you, seriously, watch her during the whole show. watch her face after he thinks she’s Alison, goes in to kiss her, and then is led off by Pat. watch the way she’s so nervous during the sorry song but almost starts to smile when he goes off script with the rap verse. take it from someone with plenty of experience being in love with a friend and trying to keep it under the radar, THESE ARE THE SIGNS. of course it’s vital for Thomas’ development for him to somehow realize, despite the whole stay-how-you-died thing, that there’s more to life than romance; once that happens, series 4’s genuine friendship and banter laid a really nice foundation for the writers to eventually go in that direction later with them if they so choose (“burgundy, big time”, the WAY he LOOKS at her in that post-poetry-reading scene holy SHIT, etcetera). and now they’re gonna combine their Melodramatic Theatre Kid Powers™️ to play the best fairytale romance Button House has ever SEEN.

ANYWAY. after nearly three centuries of just longing to feel like part of something, to matter, to be seen, especially in the context of a party (watching her follow Alison’s friends around during that one episode was fucking devastating as someone who’s experienced something like that many a time), my beloved girl is finally gonna get to be the belle of the ball. and to that I say, GOOD 👏 FOR 👏 HER👏.

tldr; GO KITTY GO.

[normalties]

just finished the Christmas special and I am screaming, crying, rolling on the floor, sobbing, absolutely distraught, depressed, jumping out of the window from the second floor of my house

[codenamecondor]

Oh, my poor, sweet Captain! 😭 I’m so glad Havers was there with him at the end 💔 and Fanny was right! He is brave!!! Brave, beautiful James 😭

(Also the stick was Havers’ 😭😫)

[danepopfrippery]

Soo…genuinely asking… did the Captain die of gay panic?!

(All the sadder cuz seems his beloved was happy to see him)

[princeloww]

OFFICIAL THOUGHTS ON THE GHOSTS CHRISTMAS SPECIAL

I didn't like it - story-wise - THAT much. Obviously, I love the characters and the writers/actors and the story, so I enjoyed it and liked watching it---yet I just felt like,,, it wasn't that strong? And it almost disregarded and cheapened some of the meaning of S5?

I get the theme: moving on. You have to move on eventually, and life isn't always going to stay still. Sure. Life may be still for the ghosts, but their "family" is forever changing. They have a, while not infinite, almost endless amount of time --- but Alison doesn't. She needs to live her life while she still can, and it shouldn't be chained to the house and to those ghosts forever. She has her own family now - she should get to live her own life, not one dedicated to lives already lived.

The hotel is still made, and she still visits the ghosts. They aren't gone from her life, she just has gone off on her own to live her own.

I like that. I like the idea.

But I think they really could have done with more time. It all felt VERY quick, especially because of season 5 being so recent, and things seemed to go from 0 (staying) to 100 (moving on) very quickly. You could argue that's thematic - you don't get to choose when you're "sucked off" (move on). We learnt last season that there is no predicting it. Sometimes it just happens, and sometimes it needs to happen.

But all the same, from a story standpoint, it was just so sudden????

I think it made sense to happen eventually, and with Mike and Alison having a family now it MAKES SENSE, but it was just the speed with which we saw it that was jarring and somewhat disappointing, ending wise. It also felt like we missed out on a lot - like the hotel, for example.

In rough summary (I am clutching my ghosts book as I frantically write, this is not very coherent) - I love ghosts and im going to miss it. I liked the episode, as an episode of television, but I think it should have been longer to feel satisfying and not rushed.

I've loved ghosts for years now, and it's always been such a joy and a comfort to watch (especially with the fondess of early horrible histories added). I'll love you forever, Ghosts (even though your ending was slightly disappointing and I'm going to only rewatch up until the ending of season 5) (because that's the true ending in my mind) <3333

[rightintheghoulies]

Ghosts’ Larry Rickard Explains Why They Chose the Captain’s First Name | Den of Geek

😭🥹😭🥹😭🥹😭🥹

[spacelessbian]

I was so caught up in the intense emotions of the Captain's death scene that I completely missed his name. I still don't know, you guys.

[b-duck]

When Pat started handing out parts I was SURE he was going to make cap the fairy god mother cus it’s exactly the sort of quick innuendo joke they do, and was preemptively cringing cus ehhhhh yeah that kind of joke often works in a real panto where a campy out actor plays the fairy godmother but in universe none of these guys are from a time period where fairy is a reclaimed slur and out of universe they’ve still not done an episode really focusing on caps homosexuality so calling him a fairy was going to be tough to sell as lighthearted teasing but THEN he actually got the part for being the most wonderful magical parental figure for kitty and it’s 100% sincere and sweet and not a jab in any way shape or form and ahhhh 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥹🥰 I loved this episode a lot

[ultimatenomi]

Hands

[buriedsecrets]

To be honest this callback to Redding Weddy with that lovely piece of music from those flashbacks got me almost as much as the death scene.