#gg 4.12

[rubyrain23]

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[alittlequad]

😠 ☺️

[pynkhues]

Just an observation but remember when Rio asked Beth who was more fun? Dealing with him or the Secret Service. Dean has also pointed it out too. She loves dealing with crime and the pressure and adrenaline that comes with it. Of course it is super stressful. But doing a job that you love will still have its stress and problems. Dean saw that light and glow in her smile while working. He has never seen that while she was at home. Remember when she baked all those snacks as a cry for help. Dean asked if she missed it. Then ignored it when she asked would it matter. Dean didnt give a damn when she was dying inside as a housewife who bakes. But now he butt her when he sees her shining doing criminal activities in her own element. Rio called it out. Dean missed it.

Yessssssssss! You've totally nailed it – the show has a lot of faults, but I think one of the things it's done well is showing how much Dean just categorically doesn't Get It when it comes to Beth and her love of crime. You're totally right too about the stress and the adrenaline being a part of the appeal for Beth.

She has spent so much of her life stuck in this cycle of monotony, and I think it's hard for her to admit that it's not what she wants anymore, because for so long she did want it. She had a tumultuous childhood which made her crave stability, but then 20 years of stability has made her crave tumultuousness again. She wants a sense of purpose, and she wants a sense that she's in motion instead of treading water.

Rio sees that, and he responds to it – for both better and worse – while Dean either ignores it, or sees it and tries to shut it down or push it away. He only wants the parts that are palatable to him, while I think Rio, more and more, wants all of her, even the parts he doesn't think he does. It's such an interesting dichotomy, and I'm loving the way this season is exploring it.

[cagefreeromanroy]

[hereliesbb]

Just hearing Mick’s lines on repeat in my head. today nbd

Ugh that rasp™️

[medievaldarling]

“He should have taken me.” “He never will.”

[valeriemperez]

i know i'm not alone in this lack of kissing/affection thing. i know there's no stage direction in the scripts, so it's up to actors to bring anything extra (like JLM obviously does). and it's very obvious that gg and cp opt for pecks now even in places that should call for more passion (like the courtroom kiss). not sure what's going on here, but i do think it's an actor problem- they aren't comfortable enough with each other physically to bring any passion on their own account.

I know you’re not alone because I’ve seen people sending similar anons to other blogs, as well as tweeting their disappointment in Grant and Candice. But I completely disagree with your assessment, and I think I’ve made that very clear. In my view, both actors bring a great deal of passion and intimacy to their performances simply with the looks they give each other and the small touches they incorporate. If they were not physically comfortable with one another, Barry wouldn’t have been rubbing Iris’ back through the whole scene while he was clearly interacting with other characters. He wouldn’t caress her face like his life depends on it in their private moments.

Lengthening kisses or using tongue is far from the only way to convey romantic affection, and I think Barry and Iris are checking most of the boxes thanks to their actors. As for the thought that something has changed, of course it has. Others have pointed it out but a sexual predator has been fired from running their show, and the writers room went through a complete overhaul before the season started. That’s why the tone is so different not just in this season altogether, but from one episode to the next depending on who writes it.

i don’t see the tonal change from one episode to the next. the whole season’s been pretty consistently lighthearted imo, except for maybe the trial episode and the Thinker’s origin. there’s definitely a long-term commitment to the funny stuff this year.

I agree that they’re committed to humor this season, but I think the sincerity and emotion varies wildly from episode to episode. Like 4.01 was melancholy but with an infusion of humor, same as 4.07. 4.02 was slapstick comedy hour with bouts of emotion while 4.03 was slapstick with very little ‘heartfelt’ moments despite me loving it. 

Just contrasting these last four episodes: I thought 4.10 had beautifully wrought emotion but little no logic, 4.11 and 4.12 balanced heart and humor very well, and then 4.13 was just for laughs with all the potential heartfelt beats deflating. So I guess that’s what I mean by tone: the success with which they balance heart and humor.

Okay I’m ticked off enough that I’m going to rant. Are people seriously complaining about the courtroom scene? You mean the scene that showed the unfaltering love between Westallen? All of a sudden that means nothing because there wasn’t any tongue. Grant and Candice acted their butts off in that scene and it was the highlight of the episode. Here’s another thought maybe WA weren’t meant to kiss at all in that final scene but Grant and Candice decided to add it in. I wish people would lay off.

The courtroom scene was one of my favorites of the season, and I feel like the kiss was perfect. It was bittersweet acceptance, and in my opinion did not require an infusion of lust. Not because there’s something wrong with lust, but because it would have been at odds with the moment.

@siobhan24 said:

it’s just the kissing, really. i don’t think they’re uncomfortable around each other in general, but i definitely see the constant “peck only” thing at this point. there’s definitely some holding back there, imo.

I don’t think they’re uncomfortable either, but I also don’t think they’ve been holding back on purpose. 4.01, 4.07 and 4.08 all included more than a peck but the camera either panned away or cut immediately. 

you don’t have to have lust to have a kiss that’s more than a peck though. the constant pecking is starting to make me think they just want to get the kisses over with as fast as possible.

But it’s not constant. The wedding wasn’t that long ago, and they definitely didn’t peck there.

Well someone’s holding back. I don’t think it’s gg or cp but someone. A lot of your anons sound like people from here forums(.)previously(.)tv/topic/6472-mind-your-surroundings-arrow-the-flash-supergirl-legends-of-tomorrow-and-other-superhero-universes/?page=484 they’re all talking about how not intimate they are. Your last anon sounds exactly like one of the people there

I don’t think it’s a conscious decision, but I do think the show has moved away from the more domestic and physical romance of last year (even though people still complained about their kisses/lack of love scenes then). And you’re probably right about fans posting in different places.

i've actually really liked this season a lot! i think the show is SO much better lighthearted. i will continue to hold out hope that dawn allen and the coming Iris pregnancy will mean that there is some sort of bed scene in WA's future. there HAS to be. the babies can't be delivered by stork.

I’m glad you’ve enjoyed! The episodes that I like, I really like. 4.01-4.03, 4.07, 4.09, 4.12 are all excellent imo. It’s just that as the episodes go on, I feel like the overarching plot isn’t coming together as well as was promised. And, as I’ve mentioned, some of the more heartfelt moments of previous seasons are missing (though I think WA have had plenty, it’s other dynamics like Joe/Iris, Caitlin/Cisco, Anyone/Wally that are gone).

[danandblair]

GG: "We may surprise ourselves as we face the future..." DAIR REWATCH ⇢ 4.12 The Kids are Not Alright

[rubyrain23]

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[alittlequad]

Sir please control your tongue

[pynkhues]

hi this fucked me up thanks

Hi, you're welcome, because this is living in my head rent free at the moment. Like, outsider opinion stuff just does it for me generally, because there's nothing quite like people on the peripheral of a dynamic seeing a relationship for what it is while the people in it can't, but there's something extra magic about it with Mick.

We haven't seen Rio with many other people in the way we've seen Beth with others, so while we can see how Rio's different for her, we haven't known that for sure with Rio. To have that confirmation from Mick, and - - god, not even just confirmation that Beth's different for him, the confirmation that he's influenced by her and made weak by her, is just - -

*chef's kiss*

I love it.

[cagefreeromanroy]

You know what else they say. Hit ‘em where it hurts.

[hereliesbb]

I CANT BELIEVE WE GOT JEALOUS!RIO

[medievaldarling]

LOVE THE INSPECTOR COMING BACK! She was amazing.

[rubyrain23]

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[rubyrain23]

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