#garyjohn maybe

[hanksmc]

Astaroth and John but John is a damn freak (canon)

[zzoupz]

this is true

[slashrabbitbunny]

You know what time it is ❤️🐰❤️

[thebleedingeffect]

Jumping on the fucking walls I'm so damn happy that the holiday season is practically over for me cause it means my writing pace goes back up and YAAAAAAYYYYYYY YIIIPPPPEEEEEE YAAYYYYYY !!!!

[vendettapandav]

John ended up getting those groceries after all. But it seems that they may have cost him just a little more than he thought they would, physically and mentally. Distractions come and go but it is painfully obvious that both his mind and his heart are in conflict. Gary offers a bit of respite, and they both end up learning some interesting things about each other.

[markthekng]

October 30th, 10:00 A.M. EST.

GaryJohn fans, get ready for the 4 chapter horror I've been trying to hype up. (Fic summary under the cut)

Ferme les yeux, retiens ton souffle, avale-le

John couldn't possibly reach a lower point in life. He hates himself, his life has gone to shit, he can't even look at himself in the mirror without wanting to rip his skin to pieces, now to add to the misery, he's moving into a new apartment complex and he couldn't be more stressed.

Amid the stress, he finds that residing in the apartment building is a stranger just a little bit taller and a little bit older who's a lot like him, and whom he takes an instant interest in. With this new friend (who John hopes could maybe one day be more) he starts to feel just a little bit more reassured.

But amid a string of disappearances within the apartments, residents dying like cattle, most of their corpses missing except for a few choice organs, John really should be questioning just how much he can trust this new friend of his, and why his breath smells just a little bit off.

[trashprinceward]

Lack of interaction bothers everyone, you're not saying things that don't make sense. It hurts and it's relatable. Problem is that the more you complain about people not interacting, the faster they'll leave. For example, its not true you never had fanart of your AUs. I remember when you got both text and art for it. You still do sometimes. Less than I could say about me myself, you know? Or many others in this community. You're lucky because you are one of the few people who can say this happened to them. Everyone wants it. You had it and yet you complain it's not enough. It's normal that people who did, might not feel appreciated by you anymore. Because you don't seem to remember it. Sometimes you make comments about how weird it is that people don't like the way you draw Faith characters, but at the same time you jab at those who draw John or Garcia looking too slim for your standards. Or too young. Once a person got nervous, tagging the fandom and telling them to stop drawing John in ships with old men. You didn't like to read that, rightfully like many others. Because people draw what they like. And yet you tag in the fandom and say things like "finally people stop drawing him as a twink! He's not one!" as if you are the only right one here. Maybe they also use their bodies as reference. You're angry and you don't realize you hurt people with what you say. You also talk about how you want your ship to be liked more but people like what they want. Insisting won't change anything. You act like you're the only unlucky one with nobody posting John and Garcia. If people don't like it, you can't make them like it. Which isn't even true, since there are many fan fictions out there on AO3. How many did you link on your page, saying "hey, fellow followers, go read this one!" to give them a hand? How many fan art did you draw for those people who like a ship you say to be less famous? There are people out there that I've seen liking ships I don't even care about who support each other. Such small ships that are even hard to consider. They don't attack, they don't insist. Criticizing Garyjohn and having people leave happened because not many like to have something they like criticized, people get touchy. But it also depends on how you write it. For example I don't care about Garyjohn. I don't even like it, I just shrug and ignore exactly as I shrug an ignore Johncia, because yes. I don't like it. Yet I followed you. Neither are ships I like but that infamous thing that happened some days ago on AO3 made me very angry too. You never did something like that. But you won't decide how sensitive a person is to things they like. About the pillows, it was an investment you decided to do by yourself. I don't know how many people wanted it, how many didn't see it. But it's not always other's fault if your art doesn't get reblogged, if you didn't reach enough people. I don't know how marketing works. I don't know how you guess how many people might be interested or not. This time it went poorly, and it hurts. But it's not our fault. And, we never wanted you to get hurt from drawing too much. Yet you had to almost make us all feel guilty because of that. Because you got hurt. I didn't want you to get hurt. I never told you to work faster and harder.

Happy ides of March everyone!

[okultraoldmanyaoi]

need to draw “true gary” today. Maybe some garyjohn thrown in there idk but i NEED to draw that beast

[priestly-prince]

Ok, let me elaborate on this because whoo boy.

Where's that post that says kids today don't know how headcanons and fanon works? It's not about what is/could be canon. It's not about running to Airdorf to validate/confirm your headcanons. It's about playing with characters like dolls and making 50 AUs and "what ifs" like in the old days. Take off the shipping goggles and open your eyes to the wider world of character dynamics.

Before anyone calls me a hater or blocks me again... I SHIP GARYJOHN. Though obviously not to the same extent as everyone else, and not as much as I used to due to how insufferable everyone else is about it. If even the slightest suggestion that your ship isn't "canon" feels like a personal attack to you, I can't help you. (I've already been blocked and called proship because I like Johncia, you'll be fine).

Anyway, yeah, so garyjohn shippers will tell you that the appeal of the ship is John being corrupted by darkness and giving in to the forbidden. And I get it. That's why I like it too, because again... I SHIP GARYJOHN! But I'm open to discussing other potential avenues.

See, with Gary being John's father, John already IS the forbidden. The darkness is already inside him, and he's not falling to Gary's outside temptation, but to his own nature that was given to him by birth BY Gary. The darkness is a part of him. GARY is a part of him. A part of him he can never be rid of. And even though he's dedicated his life to fighting and resisting this part of his nature, even if he rebukes his father, and by extension, the influence he had over John, it'll always be there, inside him.

And this is why Gary is so driven to find and conquer and dominate John specifically. He's the antichrist. His son, his successor, a prince of hell by birth. And yet, God showed John grace anyway, gave him a chance to be something more. "John, son of man"... A dark inversion of Christ who nevertheless followed in his footsteps, and not those of his father.

Also there was mention of John and Gary being brothers, and yeah, that's cool too because also, technically, if you really think about it... They ARE brothers. Maybe a generation apart, but they were raised by the same woman, prepared for similar dates, so I can see that as an interesting dynamic too.

Call me crazy, or maybe I'm just contrarian, but personally I think it's more interesting to explore the possibility that Gary might be John's father.

It's probably very unlikely, but frankly more likely than John willingly entering a romantic relationship with him, and ultimately there are far more interesting dynamics to explore than always falling back on romance/sex.

[hanksmc]

Bloody 🩸

[zzoupz]

anyway petition to call their ship name millard

[thebleedingeffect]

*stares at all of the comments in my inbox* maybe i should finish the garyjohn fic huh...

[thebleedingeffect]

Garyjohn fic today perhaps?

I'M LITERALLY DRAFTING THE AO3 TAG LIST RN GIMME A MOMENT !!!! Okay but actually a lil info on this fic <3 there's gonna be five chapters total, with a possible six chapter, maybe. I'm not gonna be posting the entire thing at first and instead I'm gonna be posting a chapter every two days or so! But YES I'm posting the first chapter in just a lil bit I hope you enjoy it sjsjsjs

[trashprinceward]

You ask why people don’t follow you. I speak for myself: I followed you once, but with time you became passive aggressive. You sound like the way you portray Faith characters is the only right one. You look at ask blog and judge saying “he wouldn’t do it”. And when people don’t like your art you even said you hurt your hands drawing so the least we could do was to reblog your things. I felt blamed. I felt uncomfortable. I felt judged. That’s why. It has nothing to do with what you draw. Or how.

Ok, that's fair. But it comes from a place of jealousy. Not that it makes it right, but just that it came from hurt without thinking.

A whole lot of ask blogs came from nowhere and got lots of people swarming it with questions. My John blog was dead apart from the attentions of maybe 3 people. It hurt.

New people joined the fandom and started posting art that gets lots of attention and lots of reblogs. I get barely a handful. It hurts.

I did put a lot of time and effort and money into making actual physical merch, and people wouldn't even share the promos. I had people come and say they would have bought some after the pre-orders closed because they never saw it. If it was shared more maybe they would have. It hurts.

People make AUs and post about headcanons and then get people send them asks and get involved and send fanart and even make RP blogs for other people's AUs. A level of care and interest I could never get. It hurts.

I criticised garyjohn once, maybe twice. A ship I actually like and make content for. But that was enough for a whole bunch of people to block me, just because I want other ships to get more rep too. It hurts.

It makes me feel worthless and ignored and useless and like I should just give up and not bother. Like I'll never make it. After 20 years of drifting from website to website, fandom to fandom, I'll never be anything. I can't sell commissions, I can't get trades, heck most people wont even send me requests. It hurts.

And no, none of that is an excuse for being a dick. But when you're lonely, isolated, with nobody to talk to and nobody wants to interact with you, when you have no support and only have your own company and your own thoughts, becoming more poisoned with negativity over time, it's hard not to spiral.

I'm sorry if it upset you. It upsets me too, but I have to live with it.

[addicted2coke-theothercoke]

Wait, first of, are you telling me people ship Gary and John?

I don't get it

I really don't get it

But I've heard worst so I can except that people do it

But come on people

Garyjohn?

That's the ship name?

I'm sorry, there's we can do better then that

Hmm

John Ward, Gary Miller

Father Ward, Astaroth

Father Astaroth?

Okay maybe I was too quick to complain, I have no idea how to come up with a ship name, especially with these two characters (cause I don't personally ship them)

Bleh, gonna post this anyways

I'M SORRY.