#galadriel goes to valinor because she needs that and celeborn stays in middle-earth at least for a time because he needs that
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It’s aro week, and even though I still don’t feel like I fully have a handle on what aromanticism is, I do get the impression that The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings fit well with it? because all the main character’s most important and most central relationships aren’t romantic ones.
Bilbo is considered odd (“queer”, even) in the Shire for being a lifelong bachelor; his close relationships are with dwarven and elven friends, and with his adopted son Frodo. Frodo shows no romantic interest in anyone; his close relationships are with Sam, Merry, Pippin, Gandalf, and later Aragorn. And the later relationship with Frodo, Sam, and Sam’s wife Rosie all living in Bag End - which is specifically proposed by Frodo - seems like it fits the definition of queerplatonic? Whether or not you see Legolas and Gimli as a couple, their closest relationship is clearly with each other. Merry and Pippin also seem pretty clearly the most important people in each others’ lives, and remain close with their friends in Rohan and Gondor even after returning to the Shire. Boromir’s almost canonically aroace, going by the appendices. The close friendships between Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli are prominent, while the Tale of Aragorn and Arwen is relegated to an appendix. Most members of the Fellowship (6/9) do not get married or ‘fall in love’ in any traditional sense (and of the remaining three, one - Pippin - is only noted briefly in an appendix). The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings both have the characters’ relationships with each other - and the importance of valuing and cherishing those, not possessions or power - at their heart, and almost all of those relationships are non-romantic ones.
#tolkien#the lord of the rings#the hobbit#bilbo baggins#frodo baggins#aro week#i don’t know if it’s that this book is aro so much as that it’s not amatonormative#even when people are married their spouse isn’t the core of their story (usually)#as with the unfinished tales material - e.g. elrond stays in middle-earth rather than going to valinor with celebrian when she is injured#because caring about middle-earth and its people is ALSO important#galadriel goes to valinor because she needs that and celeborn stays in middle-earth at least for a time because he needs that#and that doesn’t mean they don’t love each other!#correct me if i’m wrong in my understanding of concepts here
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(I need cool Tolkien things to regain my humanity/sanity after my term paper is done so lets talk about Tolkien again if thats cool with you) Headcanons for Fëanor, Nerdanel, and sons? Headcanons and or thoughts on everyone's favourite fabulous Balrogslayer, Glorfindel? 1-3 unpopular opinions regarding Silm or Lotr? What kind of dog is Huan?? (personally Id go with bigass Husky, Samoyed, or any size Corgi)
Okay I’ll have you know I just googled “big grey dog” because I know absolutely nothing about dog breeds, but I always imagined Huan to be HUGE (big enough to ride, Celegorm definitely rides around on him, no one can tell me otherwise) and I found he must be an irish wolfshound. They look amazing, I want ten. Like google image them and look at the grey ones, that’s Huan. I love him.
Headcanons about our favourite drama family? Apart from the one where Celegorm rides around on Huan? The boys are all very done with Maglor’s singing, it’s beautiful, but he sings all day, every day and they are just tired, but they will still fight whoever says that Maglor is only the second best musician in Arda, because NO! HE’S THE ABSOLUTE BEST!
Maedhros destroyed every single mirror or reflective thing anywhere near him after Fingon got him back and he was strong enough to do so and also forbit everyone to ever call him Maitimo again. It really shouldn’t matter so much out of all the thngs he’s lost his beauty shouldn’t be such a bg deal, but he hates it and is really bitter and just done.
Feanor is amazing at making jewels and inventing tengwar and making weapons and all kinds of uneccessary stuff, but Nerdanel is amazing and making the most mundane items into an artform. She could make you a spoon and it would be the most perfect and beautiful spoon to ever be created. She could make a chair and you would never want to sit on anything else ever again. That is why Feanor and her work really well together, because Feanor always sees some way to add a little flourish to her things and she always makes sure that Feanor has some actual use for the things he makes. They have arguments over whether “it will look really good” is a good reason on it’s own. She thinks him locking the silmarils aways is the most ridiculous move ever because “your whole thing was that you would look hot wearing them, what are they doing good just locked away?”
The one time she hopes he won’t use the things he makes is when he makes swords.
When Nerdanel’s kids slowly get released from Mandos, she slaps each of them. And then hugs them. And then shouts at them a whole lot.
Glorfindel stays in middle-earth a long time. He doesn’t go with Elrond or Celeborn or Legolas. He eventually shoves Maglor on a ship “go apologize to your mother, you idiot, also Elrond missed you, stop moping and talk to them” but he doesn’t go with them. Instead he stays and protects the human race some longer. Shoves some more elves on boats, who really need to go home and visits Aragorn’s heirs some times, until one time he loses track of time and they have forgotten about him because it’s been generations. Why does he stay? Glorfindel loves middle-earth, loves it with all his heart and, unlike some other people, there’s no one in Valinor who he needs to apologize to. He stayed in Valinor for some time after he got left Mandos and he knows the people he loves there will wait for him. They’ve got time affter all. So he stays until there’s no one left to shove on a boat and then he finally goes himself. And as he sails he really hopes, that Ecthelion will be there when he arrives. The whole reason he went back to middle-earth was that he couldn’t sit around in Valinor just waiting for him. (i love Glorfindel okay, i have a lot of feelings)
Unpopular opinions. Well I never know if my opinions are really unpopular, but here goes. It could be gayer. The whole thing, everything. Come on Tolkien, I know you’re very straight but still. You have so many men, way too many men at least let some of them kiss each other. Also I want more girls. And more girls with names (Eldarion and some daughters? Seriously?)
Okay apart from that…. I like Denethor. I think it isn’t fair that a lot of fanfictions paint him as this horrible abusive asshole. I do believe he favoured Boromir, but my mother favoures my little brother, doesn’t mean she ever abused me. Denethor despaired by the end, but that’s exactly that. The Denethor we actually see in the books is allready falling and he’s still… not a huge asshole. Nowhere near what PJ made him look like (I get why he did it, but honestly PJ wasn’t very nice to that family in general, Boromir was a lot less “i hate Aragorn” in the books)
But yeah…. I love LotR and the Slmarillion. I don’t think they’re absolutely perfect, which is unpopular enough I guess, when I think about some of the guys I’ve talked to in this fandom. Also…. in some instances… I think PJ’s version of events is…. better. Like Aragorn not carrying the shards of Narsil around in the wild. Or Boromir’s death tbh. “my brother, my captain, my king” is just… a perfect line.
Also I kinda still wish he’d gone through with letting Arwen go to Helms Deep, people would have been so mad it would have been funny. And Luthien went and saved her boyfriend, why can’t Arwen do that? Let Arwen do stuff! (seriously Arwen is supposed to be like Luthien, and she’s Galadriel’s granddaughter, let her be badass!)
That’s it for now. This got way too long, but i’m really happy I have time to finally think about this stuff again, exams are exhausting, who needs them anyway, let’s just not.
#lotr#silmarillion#tolkien#peter jackson#middle-earth#tolkien talks#familie im brennpunkt#creepysora#this got really long#i have a lot of thoughts okay#also i did amazing in my exams i am incredibly proud and really tired#let me sleep a million years#and read lotr#and watch lotr#but uni starts on monday...#ughhhh#oh well i have the weekend#it's fine#i'm fine
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#i don’t know if it’s that this book is aro so much as that it’s not amatonormative #even when people are married their spouse isn’t the core of their story (usually) #as with the unfinished tales material - e.g. elrond stays in middle-earth rather than going to valinor with celebrian when she is injured #because caring about middle-earth and its people is ALSO important #galadriel goes to valinor because she needs that and celeborn stays in middle-earth at least for a time because he needs that #and that doesn’t mean they don’t love each other! (via warrioreowynofrohan)
It’s aro week, and even though I still don’t feel like I fully have a handle on what aromaticism is, I do get the impression that The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings fit well with it? because all the main character’s most important and most central relationships aren’t romantic ones.
Bilbo is considered odd (“queer”, even) in the Shire for being a lifelong bachelor; his close relationships are with dwarven and elven friends, and with his adopted son Frodo. Frodo shows no romantic interest in anyone; his close relationships are with Sam, Merry, Pippin, Gandalf, and later Aragorn. And the later relationship with Frodo, Sam, and Sam’s wife Rosie all living in Bag End - which is specifically proposed by Frodo - seems like it fits the definition of queerplatonic? Whether or not you see Legolas and Gimli as a couple, their closest relationship is clearly with each other. Merry and Pippin also seem pretty clearly the most important people in each others’ lives, and remain close withtheir friends in Rohan and Gondor even after returning to the Shire. Boromir’s almost canonically aroace, going by the appendices. The close friendships between Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli are prominent, while the Tale of Aragorn and Arwen is relegated to an appendix. Most members of the Fellowship (6/9) do not get married or ‘fall in love’ in any traditional sense (and of the remaining three, one - Pippin - is only noted briefly in an appendix). The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings both have the characters’ relationships with each other - and the importance of valuing and cherishing those, not possessions or power - at their heart, and almost all of those relationships are non-romantic ones.
#aromanticism#lotr#the lord of the rings#lotr meta#tbh op As An Aroace™ it sounds like you understand aromanticism & amatonormativity very well#and you're absolutely spot-on that LOTR/the legendarium as a whole is incredibly aromanticism/aspec-friendly#i've talked about it before but i knew i thought bilbo & frodo were aroace before i knew either of those were things someone could be#the whole story values platonic relationships so dearly#they're consistently valued by the characters and the narrative#just as much as the romances and more often than not *more*#romance is there but it's in the background. it's for when the story is over and the characters can go home#it's the friendships that are central to the plot#there's no end of reasons i return to LOTR over and over but this is at the heart of so many of them
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