#gabriel agrest

[night-night-stories-before-bed]

Love me, hate me, you can't live without me.

Warning ⚠️; Mention of past character death, mention of child abuse, implied hate sex, implied bottom Gabriel. Toxic relationship. 🔞

Pairing; Gabriel Agreste/ Male reader

Summary; Gabriel and you had a rocky start, from allies to somewhat friends to more. You Weren't his wife, would never be her and yet Gabriel can't deny that place you have in his heart. It only makes him hate you more while it make you love him more.

Note; It was supposed to be my Tony Stark/Cult Leader!Male!Reader fic posted Saturday but its not fully finished/corrected so yeah. I hope y'all still love this one.

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Gabriel still didn't understand why he agreed to work with you. You were an insufferable brat, a torn in his side and a tease. Everything that he hated. Yet, he had to admit that you were his strongest ally. Your control over your Miraculous was close to perfection and you were a strong foe.

That was why he had agreed to work with you.

Gabriel was still unsure how you had found his hideout since you never told him. He had been shocked to find you there, surrounded by his white butterfly and waiting for him. His first reflex had been to try and fight you, only for you to overpower him easily.

God, he could still feel your knee between his legs and pressing against his groin. Your breath hit his ear through his mask as you chuckled, twisting his arms behind his back. You had whispered in Gabriel’s ear like you were telling him a secret, but in reality it was a deal.

He helped you get something and in return, you would bring him Lady Bug and Chat Noir’s Miraculous.

How could he say no? Not when all his plans had been bested and those damn kids mocked him. Gabriel had had enough and maybe you were going to be the one to finally give him what he wanted. If the price was to break in somewhere and steal something, it was nothing he wouldn't do.

The most humiliating part had been that you had succeeded in your part of the deal. You had given him once each Miraculous, first Chat Noir, then Lady Bug, but after each time Gabriel had lost them. If only you had given them at the same time! And how he had hated you when after each time you had made fun of him. Yes. Gabriel hated you. You and your teasing words.

Then, out of nowhere, you came in his office.

Not his hideout, not somewhere he was as Monarch, but right inside his home. You knew who he was and stood without your costume, sitting on his desk playing with a Miraculous that wasn't yours. Of course, you gave it to him and of course, you laughed at him when his plan failed again.

From then on things went downhill for Gabriel. You were always there, in his shadow, smirking and teasing him. There was nothing he could do against you; you knew his identity and could use it against him. So he can just watch as you take Nathalie’s place next to him and to his horror get close to his son.

Adrien who actually enjoys your company and listens to you when you speak. Adrien who laughs and seeks your presence when he is contraried by Gabriel, but calm down when you explain why Gabriel is doing such things. His own son prefers you over him and it is a slap across the face.

He tried to push you away, force you to stay far away from his son but you only laughed to his face. There was no way Adrien would forgive him if he learned he sent you away and he couldn't bear the thought of his actually hating him.

So he finally gave in, letting you turn around him like a fly with a piece of meat. He hated how touchy you were, wrapping yourself around his shoulders, your chest pressed against his back. Some days you wouldn't shave and your morning beard would scratch his neck and cheek and he would push you away, his hand on your face. You’ll chuckle and lick or bite his fingers.

And yet, you grew on him.

Gabriel couldn't deny missing you when you'll be gone for days or that he wasn't touched when he would find rare fabrics on his desk, a gift from you. There were the little things you would do for him; bringing him coffee and croissants, even pancakes after a long and hard night. You would cover for his ass when he would slip up or forget a show and he didn't even need to ask you.

You would be his plus-one during any event he participated to the point where rumours started that you two were seeing each other. That was a rumour Gabriel hated. How dare they think he was over his wife? How dare they think you were half the person she was? He was disgusted by all of them, while you thought it was hilarious and played it as true.

Yes.

Gabriel hated you.

And yet, he couldn't have enough of you.

Gabriel didn't know how to name your relationship; allies? Frienemies? Coworkers?

Soulmate?

No. That wasn't possible. Emilie was and will always be his soulmate, not you. But of course, you had to disrupt everything he thought he knew and make him face the ugly truth.

You had to save his life by almost losing yours.

Gabriel could still feel your hand grabbing his wrist painfully as you took off Plagg’s ring from his finger and could only watch as you threw it away before an explosion occurred. When he regained consciousness he found your body shielding him from the blast. He had to push you off him, cursing and hitting you until Gabriel realised you weren't reacting.

Until he felt your blood on his face.

He was losing you just like he had lost Emilie.

Something broke in his mind as he saw you unconscious and bloody, chest barely raising with your shivering breath. You were dying before his very eyes, because of him, because of the consequences of his actions. You were paying the price that should have been his.

The Lucky Charm had been useless in helping you and even Tikki couldn't tell him what to do. So Gabriel had taken you to the hospital after taking off your Miraculous, accusing Monarch of being behind your wounds. He wanted, no, deserved to be hated he thought.

His mind spiralled down, drowning him in guilt and rage as he stayed by your side, forced to face what he had done to you. Oh, how much he hated and despised you! But oh! How much he loved and missed your banters and touches.

Andrien didn't help

His son was a crying mess when he saw you, cursing him and wishing for his death. Well, the death of Monarch, which was himself, but that was something Andrien ignored. It didn't chase away the pain those words caused.

So yes. As you lay in bed, fighting for your life, Gabriel had to face an ugly truth; he loved you. Loved you just as much as he had loved his wife and he couldn't lose you.

He couldn't live without you.

It took days, but the doctors finally told Gabriel that you were out of the woods, that you were going to live. He hated himself for the tears of joy that rolled down his cheeks at the news and how his heart became lighter in his chest. But Gabriel wasn't going to lose you. You were going to keep bothering and teasing him.

You woke up days later, a smirk on your lips as you looked at him. The sound of his name on your lips sent a shiver down his spine and he had to fight the urge to punch you.

- “Don’t ever do something like that again!” He hissed at you, making you laugh and cough.

- “Of course, I am going to do it again if it means Mon Coeur is going to live.”

Mon Coeur.

My Heart.

You had called him your heart.

The second the doctors allowed you to leave, Gabriel took you home. Bedbound, you looked weak and fragile, the opposite of what you usually were. Your Miraculous was so happy to be reunited with you and so were you, making Gabriel almost jealous when you cuddled the little creature in your hands.

For hours he would stay by your side even if you were sleeping. Gabriel had moved his desk and things into your room allowing him to work on his project while keeping an eye on you. Naturally, you teased him constantly about it. His patience was about to crumble, but each time he wanted to snap, he had to face your wounded and bruised body and Gabriel would fall silent, unable to say anything as guilt kept eating him alive.

You of course noticed it.

The rare times you left the bed, you would come sit by his side. Sometimes resting your head on his shoulder taking a nap or just watching him draw. Other times you would also draw with him and he would include your ideas in his concepts or you would talk, trying to clear his mind.

You both knew what was going on, but neither of you said or did anything about it.

Until Gabriel couldn't take it anymore.

The first time Gabriel kissed you, he felt alive again. The second time he kissed with hunger, like a man starving to death. He could never forget the sweet taste of your lips or the warm touch of your hands on his hips, grounding him and reminding him this wasn't a dream.

You were alive and so was he.

For once, you didn't tease or make fun of him but allowed him to do as he pleased with you. His hands touched and explored your body, tracing the scars he was responsible for. The shivers and grunts from you were his new addiction and he always needed more. So he got more, tasting all of you and letting you have your share.

You touched him like no one else did before, not even Emilie. Your lips forced sounds he didn't know he could produce out of his mouth. You covered his skin with kisses and bites, leaving a trail of hickeys behind you. In the morning his body would be sore, reminding him that he wasn't twenty anymore, but your body wrapped around his would make Gabriel forget everything as he would focus on your breathing and heartbeat.

Yes.

Gabriel hated and loved you at the same time. And had to face the truth; that he couldn't live without you, couldn't keep following his plan to try and bring Emilie back. No. Because that meant risking losing you again or leaving you behind and he couldn't accept either possibility. So Gabriel accepted it and each time he woke up in your embrace or with you kissing his shoulders he both cursed and praised you. You who had changed everything for the better and the worse.

[ilikelookingatthings]

Does anyone else feel like its weird that Miraculous Ladybug acts like I should be fine with Adrien's mom dying? and that's its wrong to try to save her?

Like....fridging trope aside.....Arguable Gabe has the most sympathetic reasoning for wanting to become a villain...he is trying to get the ladybug and Chat noir miraculous to make a wish to fix/heal his wife out of her coma which she only entered due to Magic from using a broken Peacock.

His plan makes sense...he can't go to a guardian for help because he doesn't know fu exists at that point and all the other guardians are gone. He's rich so had already used all the science money can buy plus anything he can glean from their not properly translated miraculous book, and its not working. And he clearly had tried to find the miraculous by normal means but couldn't find it outside of narrowing it down to France(unless the plan was that the TV would showcase his akuma villain so the miraculous holders would be activated and come find them from afar which also works).

So, the only way to find the creation and destruction miraculous was to use the pattern shown through history that if a villain appeared that the cat and ladybug miraculous would be activated to deal with it. He pretends to be a villain, amplifies his own negative emotions and simplifies what he wants so it's easier to project it on his victim. He chooses negative emotions because someone vulnerable will be more likely to say yes as he still needs consent, and a villain is the best option to get attention and draw them out. Then he would get the chance to steal the miraculous...which then he could release the victim (who wouldn't know what they did minimizing trauma) where he could reverse all the damage with the newly stolen creation miraculous.

and he knows if he loses the damage would be reversed by the ladybug anyway. and by showing his hawkmoth persona people have someone to blame aside from his Akuma victim. and Gabe knows he can take the powers if it goes too far and that he can talk to his victim and use a brain zap connection check them if they get too out of hand..so while Gabe is still horrible for taking advantage of a (usually a teens) negative emotions to try to steal the miraculous after making a scene and alarming the city of Paris...he arguable has a plan that minimizes the risk and damage where he has to get consent from his victim(they have to agree to the powers and that he persuaded them). and the plan is to heal his wife who can walk back into her life using the 'missing' cover...probably something like her going away for a secret treatment she didn't know would work ect. and Gabe knows i he wins that he just wants to save a loved one(doesn't erase the fear since people don't know what he wants and just because he has the illusion of control it doesn't change people were in real danger.

Its just....Yes he's horrible but he also knows any damage he makes will be reversed and he had no contact with the guardians so it would have been pretty understandably if he didn't really understand how the wish works since the 'Detroy and rewrite the world' sounds like bullshit and a price to heal someone from something the miraculous caused would be hard to fathom or easy to brush aside at first. We've seen Mari justify risky moves because she knows Damage will get reversed at times...and unlike a lot of villains at least Gabe had a failsafe with the Ladybug miraculous and how he hadn't planned to torment Paris and just wanted a quick in and out wish.

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Its just weird the show acts like the BEST course of action is just to completely accept Emelie's death....like this isn't natural sickness...this is a miraculous caused one so I wouldn't just accept it easier...even more she isn't dead yet...if she was dead and buried I'd understand the point of him having to accept and move on...but contrary to how its coffin shaped...it's not actually a coffin...it's a healing coma stasis pod.

I mean sure we could argue that if the wish destroys the world that its bad completely even if everything is rewritten (side eyeing the time travel episodes a bit but eh)....but considering how strongly he tries to convince Adrien about his mom being 'missing' and his desperation when the power almost went out due to the power surge during the guys' party....Gabe at least through most of the seasons didn't seem to be banking on the 'remake everything' part and was aiming for the healing her/waking her up part...like was it that someone else would have to go into a coma which would be better than death at least?

it's just I understand that a message can be accepting to let people go when there are no other options but the whole point of science and doctors is to have a fighting chance...and it feels weird to be told to give up is the right thing to do when she isn't dead, and a common 'miracle' is someone being healed.

Like...why is the show trying to get me to ship Gabe and Nathalie at times when Gabe's ONE redeeming feature is that he loves his wife and wants to save her...I mean i like the drama by why act like its some fix? that if Gabe has a replacement, he should stop trying to save her? Even more its not like Gabe is the only one who wants her back...Nathalie clearly thought she was worth it enough to side with this crazy plan, and wanting to bring back the emotionally competent parents' kind of makes sense for Gabe since he clearly didn't prepare to be a single parent.

And like....I'm gonna be honest the thing that bothers me the most if her having videos saying she wants Gabe to give up....like I get...a just in case video...but would it be wrong if the mom WANTED to be saved? Would Emelie wanting to live be selfish?

Also she tends to be treated like a saint character...perfect sweet person dead mom architype. We are all familiar....

But it feels odd people don't address the aspects of her character we DO know. We know Gabe compared Chat noir to Adrien's mom Favorably when Chat ripped him to shreds so to speak in Simon Says when Gabe was being too lighthearted about the danger Gabe was personally in. implying, she often roasted Gabe in a similar way...and considering Gabe as strong parallels personality wise to Marinette...it strengthens the hint that Emelie is also closure to Adrien in their dynamic.

Like....What if the issue is that Emelie was the one super excited about miraculous and using them and didn't check it was safe to use the peacock. Where she overlooked the side affects and kept using it anyway until it was too late? Something that could parallel how Adrien when he first got Plagg got so excited he accept the powers without finding out the details as well as Adrien being a bit reckless when it comes to his OWN well-being in his confidence. Like...she wanted a baby, but she couldn't have one naturally so wanted to use the peacock instead of invitro or adoption and she was stubborn about it. Ignoring Gabe who would be more cautious about its view (similar to how Marinette is more cautious and collects info and makes plans to contrast Adrien who jumps right in first). Her kindness in making a baby for others like Kagami for Kagami's mom and Felix for her sister. Maybe Emilie tried doing good with the peacock or heck even the butterfly before...but Emilie being reckless led to her not realizing the affect it would have on her family if something happened to her. Emilie was also really talented in her own right both as a model and an actress(even if she only acted a little in that one movie)...but if she's similar to Adrien in how he tends to be naturally supportive and empathetic....what if she was a great source of help for Gabe who struggled a bit with that...especially with him trying to impress her old money family with his new money riches....

like it would make Sense of Gabe wants to help her /save her or might blame himself for not stopping her...even more if she believes in him like how chat believes in LB/Mari.

It just feels unfair that the show seems to act like it's just the only option that Adrien's mom would be understanding about them letting her die/go instead of trying to save her when most of them would have no reason to understand or believe the weight of the wish would be THAT bad.

and if Gabe's plan was always to switch with the mom (similar to how Nathalie was healed but he was gone) ...would the mom know and be worried because she wanted Gabe to be, okay?

Like I wish there was a bit more nuance we were shown...like was she reckless in using it...whether through genuine good or selfish intentions but not bad? what about how she was also super protective of Adrien...like its not just Gabe who made Adrien homeschool...it was the mom...and Adrien was more or less fine with it still his mom disappeared and he was struck with his grieving dad who was NOT taking it well and who (WE know) was probably trying to find way to fix the mom and putting Adrien second to try to fix her faster for Adrien's sake...forgetting Adrien couldn't be that understanding since to Adrien his mom disappeared while Gabe at least knew she was alive and Adrien didn't know his dad was taking care of his mom.

Was she a little vain or shallow? at all dramatic like Adrien? would she sneak out at times? Was the mom at all paranoid or overprotective about Adrien? Was she overly affectionate hence why Adrien might struggle with certain personal space issues at times?

Its just..Gabe has the energy of someone who kind of had to pick up being hawkmoth out of necessity like Mari did to help save Paris(or alya Infront of her)...only for him his Paris was Emelie...also according to how Gabe responded to Chat in Simon says...did she put Gabe in his place? get annoyed at him or think that Gabe was too reckless with himself like how Mari at times can be confident and not realize the danger she puts herself in?

We know the mom was adventurous and directly was part of that expedition to find the miraculous with Gabe and Nathalie and that they liked to travel often. We also know as much as Gabe loves his wife....he isn't a big fan of her sister even if Adrien and Felix would hang out more often before.

I mean...Emelie doesn't have to be evil or anything, but I would like a bit more nuance to her...

Honestly, I half wonder if Emelie had actually made a wish before and that's why she wants Gabe to give up.

What if Gabe had actually been the one to suffer the consequences of the peacock before and Emelie had been the Hawkmoth...only to succeed and change things so SHE used it instead so Gabe would live in her place...trying to stop him from burning himself out with those videos.

Also...people give Gabe flack for not going back in time to stop Emilie from using the peacock...but if she did that...wouldn't that have stopped Felix, Kagami and especially Adrien his own son from existing?

Like its the easiest route to fix Emilie but it could risk the existence of their kid so is it really the most obvious choice that Gabe failing to see means he's just too far gone that the show is trying to pretend it was?

Also has anyone heard the Theory that Emilie and Amelie were also sentibeings as well?

or that Adrien is based on them losing a kid together? or him being half a sentibeing?

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Also....if they were going to save Nathalie with Gabe dying....Why not just have Gabe trade himself for his wife anyway? why can't both Nathalie and Emelie be saved?

like morally I think Gabe thinking it would be better if Adrien had emelie instead of Gabe could be interesting since she seems better at emotions and was the more emotion focused parent...but that could also show the flaw of when you focus on your 'role' of what your good at and forget to practice the other aspects of parenting...relying on the other person for the other aspects instead of you both equalizing it out? would Adrien agree? or be devastated his dad felt it would have been preferable if Gabe died instead of Emilie?

also...why not just have them offer the guardians to help save Emelie? show that the wish isn't necessary and get experts in who can help combined with science since she technically isn't dead?

also... what if that's a decoy and the real Emelie is somewhere else?

I'm just saying them finding those videos all the way in season 5 after THIS long just saying Gabe should let Emilie go feels pretty convenient.

Also...what happens if Adrien finds out the truth and uses a wish to bring both of his parents back but at the cost of himself?

Would potentially Amelie pretend to be Emilie and make the videos? similar to felix?

Or get desperate to save her sister now that she knows she was in trouble/in a coma?

Also...I get Adrien tends to be the 'move forward type when you can't change anything' and he was probably just trying to be calmer and accept things to contrast how his dad was stuck and how Adrien pieced together his mom was sick and her 'disappearing' was probably his mom running away to die where her family couldn't see her since they had tried to keep it from Adrien...and that his dad was in denial about it and Adrien came to terms by himself.

but it feels odd they have Adrien be so accepting I guess? like if he was more in denial how would that have affected marinette on the subject? though I get his dad not giving up easily when emilie isn't dead and he has seen her in the pod.

Though imagine if the mom DID come back a the end with the 'missing' excuse as a cover still.

Also... Nathalie basically enabled Gabriel into his death...i wonder how Nathalie would feel about that now or about Emelie after the taps...like I haven't forgotten the guy almost gave up being hawkmoth but Nathalie encouraged him to continue!

[teayana]

hope lila (or whatever her real/new name is) as a new hawkmoth will be much better at designing costumes for akumatized people 'cause gabriel was a garbage of a designer with and without supervillain powers

[capsensislagamoprh]

This is a call-out post for Gabriel Agrest, specifically.

[katzebruh]

I'm just going to be uploading all my old stuff I did for MLB (and new stuff) that I forgot about on here

[1alchemistart]

thats right ive got MORE

also sorry to anyone who thought i'm new in the last post, i've been in and out of this fandom since 2015 i'm ancient SDKLFKLSD

[ladygoofus]

Adrien's interpretation of Ladybug's story in Miraculous World: London

The London special gave me exactlyyyy the angst that I craved. I can't believe that THIS was what she told him.

[anna-scribbles]

adrinette exes! and marichat! part 4!

(part 1 / part 2 / part 3)

[jellysnail-draws]

🐞

[rwsdarw]

got sick recently so here sillies

[sillysiluriforme]

i have this idea for a silly oneshot retelling of style queen where its just them running around getting into shenanigans

[night-night-stories-before-bed]

I am sick as fuck with the flu and high on meds since Friday. Been watching Godzilla movies until now and just started Miraculous.

Why can't I find fic with my man Gabriel?? Let me make him worse or get a toxic and tense relationship with my favourite forever grieving widow!

Give me my old man Yaoi!

Because you can't tell me Gabriel isn't fruity…

I might also want to throw him down the Eiffel Tower.

And a few staircases…

Like how can you be so horrible to your son? Even Toji loved his son more than you I bet :(

I want to adopt Adrien and Marinette and keep them safe away from all those fights. They are kids!! Kids shouldn't be fighting so much :/

I give it a week because man, that flu is hell. At least its not my annual laryngitis.

[ilikelookingatthings]

Thoughts on Miraculous Ladybug : A Comment from YouTube I'm proud of about themes and Gabriel

and don't get me STARTED on Gabriel. the undercut and sabotaged any nuance this man had for 5 freaking seasons. every time he showed nuance or good feelings, they undercut it by forcing him to do something worse to snuff out any sense of sympathy or complexity, so we know who the bad guy and good guy is. yet they try to ham fist a last-minute redemption?!

don't get me wrong I actually DO want a redeemable complex Gabriel but its VERY confusing and just BAD how they handled it. at the very least they could have made it better if they literally said he was good and genuinely had good intentions to save his wife. after all she was 'missing' which means the plan was to use the wish to wake her up and she could come back using going missing as a cover. He wasn't raising the dead as she was in a magical coma.

he has a fix it as he knew if he lost that the ladybug miraculous would fix things and if he won, he could use the ladybug miraculous to fix any damage he did. by making 'hawkmoth' the villain it means people would have a target outside of the victims and the victims technically have to agree to the powers, so Gabe has the illusion of consent. and his plan to make a villain was to lure the ladybug and chat miraculous out of hiding by forcing them to activate to fix the problem since he couldn't track it down otherwise.

Overall, yes, it's not 'good' but his plan made sense in a way of minimizing damage for just wanting to save his wife. play up the fact they had no one to ask for help since the guardians were gone...from his view he was 'acting' as a villain. he had no training and didn't even have a properly translated book and wasn't chosen for his role.

just point to the fact Gabe has been using his miraculous of emotions wrong. he has been amplifying his own negative emotions to feel others negative emotions and forcing a fixation on the miraculous to get his victims to try to steal them. we have literally seen how even being a little emotionally off can have consequences.

Feast with fu was a rouge Senti-monster that sensed Fu's negative emotions, negative emotions that weren't even a part of why he made the Senti-being (which was to get him some snacks, Marinette's miraculous immediately timing down when she used it to separate Adrien and Chloe instead of attacking bubbler due to her jealousy, how Tikki's snack attack affected Mari when Mari transformed. and how Akuma Victims are prone to making dumb mistakes and you literally can't reason with them properly and act more fixated and aggressive.

they could have fixed the situation by just pointing out as a side effect from using his miraculous the way he was...his personality was literally getting twisted like his Akumas due to using mis miraculous in a way it wasn't supposed to be intended. Even more with how they mention using multiple ones can cause a strain on you and literally make you insane.

that way it would validate the times Gabe was reasonable or genuinely cared as the real him while also validating and explaining all the times he became SO much worse and cartoonishly evil.

while I would have preferred Adrien actually being there in the final battle with hawkmoth..... if they just played up that Mari being more willing to sympathize and see the villians genuinely needed help and weren't just evil was due to adrien's/chat's influence because that is adrien's strength in the show. his sympathy and ability to think deeper on motivations and not just punish and how he helped teach mari to not take things entirely at face value and be more patient.

heck the final battle could have worked if they played up the Mari and gabe are actually genuinely VERY similar. they have LOTS of parallels in the show...

like I think they were going for a parallel to collector/the end of collector when mari went to him to give him the book she took(even if lila took it first) where gabe surprised us by him admiring ehr stepping forward and not being mad at her, even answering her questions and agreeing not to tell adrien when she asked him to keep silent. and a reminder about how gabe did give a genuine apology to adrien at the end of collector when he could have gotten away with not doing so since adrien DID steal the book from his locker...Gabe genuinely apologized in depth.

but because the show had spent most of the season undercutting any goodness in Gabriel again with no explanation to cover it like saying it was the influence of him going insane like his victims due to how he had been using his miraculous....it just feels unearned and messed up. even more if he was going to use the wish...why couldn't he had used it so Nathalie and the mom would be okay? if his plan had always been to use himself in case there was a price how would Mari have reacted?

like I still don't get why she trusted him at all. and because they never mentioned Gabe going insane or his behavior was due to how he handled the miraculous (like Akuma victims)

...it just comes across as Gabe just being genuinely terrible and abusive as him as a default for most of the show which makes the redemption/him fighting his choice WEIRD.

like please for the love of GOD WHY did they not just make it a side effect of using his brooch the way he did literally! it would have used the fact they primed us to sympathize/not judge what people do under the Akuma influence/in the deepest throes of their negative feelings because its prompted by them being twisted by the magic to at least give Gabe a BUFFER(for the audience).

It would make him 'fighting' so to speak, literally him fighting how he had twisted himself literally with the way he used the miraculous...like how people can fight drugs or the fought akums before. and the tragedy that Nathalie thought Gabe was just bad...not realizing her enabling him using the brooch the way he did twists someone she genuinely cared about.

like, it is easy to notice at judge the physical effects of the peacock broach, but the mental effect of the butterfly is HONESTLY terrifying/scary and has so many implications if their plan was to hint that original Gabe was more similar to Betterfly.

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I think it works even more because it would also explain why Gabe seemed different in this specific fight because he didn't know Adrien was chat noir. people often use Gabe's reaction to Adrien being Chat Noir to validate seeing Gabe as just an abusive horrible person...but what I've also seen is if Gabe actually talks or is around Adrien for enough time Gabe WILL soften to some degree...pointing to how Gabe does care for Adrien and that it grounds him more in his original motive/personality.

So, the change might be because Gabe has been amplifying his negative feelings so 'hawkmoth' is more focused and fixated on the miraculous and defeating ladybug and chat...finding out Adrien is chat makes the 'hawkmoth' affects take over more.

like how we saw Nate and others relax at times around certain people that breakthrough the delusion (like when Nate was actually convinced to leave Chloe alone to go hang with Marinette) but he snapped back into his villain mindset when Mari's actions echoed Chloe.

I think what's worse is it's not even a rewrite since all the blocks are THERE but the show just never acknowledges it.

[teayana]

if in season 6 we don't get an episode with mr pigeon getting akumatized once again and ordering his pigeons to shit on gabriel's statue then what's the point of all this?

[buggachat]

best. dad. ever.

bonus:

[0alix0]

made in times of my mlb-rewrite obsession