#gülnihal

[tianmicons]

[elizabeth-halime]

[anielina13]

[malachitezmeyka]

Any particular reason you're randomly grabbing Hürrem's hair, Gülnihal?

[mc-critical]

While Hatice may have more pivotal parallels with her sisters, Mahidevran and Hürrem (and MCK Gevherhan), E08 swiftly and ineluctably ties her to Gülnihal as well: both of them really want something in order to achieve some kind of fulfillment in their lives, but they constantly flip-flop in that want (Hatice yearns for Ibrahim but will never directly express her wish to have him; Gülnihal desires to obtain what Hürrem has for herself, but will never show it to her outright) because they know that it may not just disappoint their closest but be an utter betrayal to them, and them hinting just a little at their true wishes (Gülnihal admitting to Hürrem that she became muslim; Hatice signaling to Valide twice that she doesn't want to get married) constantly gets them either attacked or misunderstood (Hürrem yelling at Gülnihal, asking why she became muslim, also her almost strangling her to demonstrate what she would do with the woman who went to the sultan; Hafsa deciding to marry Hatice anyway, already choosing the suitor even), so they decide to put it all to a close (Hatice telling Ibrahim that they can't see each other anymore; Gülnihal refusing until the very end to go to SS's chambers for the second time)... until it turns out they can't. Gülnihal is ultimately forced to go to SS's chambers, which leads to Hürrem poisoning her weasel stole (but people first assumed it was sickness instead of a poison) due to what she had but shouldn't have, while Hatice got sick herself, looking at Ibrahim - what she barely reached but now definitely can't have - at the balcony, with her attire then having a fur trim (both the weasel and the fur appear to highlight Gülnihal and Hatice's seperate interlinked positions in some way; btw, Hatice kept seeing Ibrahim later too, but that's besides the point). The two indispositions completely intersected in Hürrem's confrontation with Hafsa after she went to check on Gülnihal, with her begging her to go to Hatice and Hafsa letting her [I believe Hafsa gave up from telling SS about the Gülnihal affair namely for that moment: yes, she didn't approve of Hatice befriending Hürrem and warned her about it, but seeing Hürrem sincerely wanting to check on her, that perhaps Hatice herself would need that and appreciate that, that Hatice cares about Hürrem regardless...; In this batch of episodes, Hafsa continually wonders why Hatice is so upset, having still not figured it out, and Hatice did lash out when Hafsa reprimanded her about Hürrem, so maybe that could be a part of it according to Hafsa... right? I think something indeed trembled inside Hafsa there. Yes, perhaps she needed Hürrem at Hatice's to go to Mehmet and take him, but this doesn't explain her punishing Hürrem just with that - not to mention that Mehmet had actual concerns then, which turned Hafsa taking him into an almost necessity - and not telling SS about Gülnihal, something she constantly threatened to do and even Daye couldn't convince her not to; ....yeah, no, upon rewatching it again, Hafsa basically pointedly gestured to Daye after she let Hürrem go to Hatice, it was all decided then.], with the following confrontation with Mahidevran at Hatice's also having the indispositions be paralleled.

[magnificentlyreused]

This purple coat was first worn by Nigar Kalfa in the fifth episode of the first season of Magnificent Century. It is seen again on Gülnihal Hatun in the fourteenth episode of the same season.

[hurremsultanns]

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Gulnihal didn't deserve Hurrem's cruelty, every girl in that harem has as much right to the sultan's halvet as Hurrem(and are obliged to answer to his invitation). Knowing Mahidevran had a miscarriage because of Hürrem being in halvet with Suleiman her reaction to the same thing (honestly a better thing because at least she didn't lose her child) happening to her shows hypocrisy, not divine justice like some people claim. I like Hurrem but I was not with her on this one.

I can't even really place this with a rating because there's so much within it to unpack.

First of all, Mahidevran blames Hürrem for her miscarriage but that doesn't mean that Hürrem making her stressed or upset is actually the cause of it. I don't think it's fair to blame that on Hürrem. And I will also point out that Hürrem by the time that the Gülnihal incident has also been through through A Lot of trauma (2 murder attempts, her entire family being killed in front of her). Does this absolve Hürrem of the charge of hypocrisy? No it doesn't. But if you're going to contextualise the actions of Mahidevran due to her miscarriage, it's only fair to also contextualise the actions of Hürrem by pointing out her own trauma. Hurt people hurt people after all. Especially when you realise that as bad as what Hürrem did is, she's not the one who went so far as to attempt to murder a pregnant woman. Is the bar on the floor? Yes. But it's still worth making that comparison here. So in terms of the contrast I kind of fall on the opposite side of that argument if only because I think more context needs to be factored into the analysis. Besides if we're going to talk about double standards, I'd place far more onus on the Dynasty to be fair and they're the ones who punished Hürrem by keeping Mehmet away from her after the Gülnihal incident when their reaction to everything that Mahidevran had done was to cover for her and protect her from consequences.

Now does this excuse or change the fact that what Hürrem did to Gülnihal was horrible? No it doesn't. And to be fair that is also not an unpopular opinion and most fans who aren't hardcore Hürrem supporters can probably see that. You're right to point out that Gülnihal couldn't really say no to going to halvet. What Hürrem did is genuinely disturbing. As was telling Gülnihal that she would 'always be her slave'. None of this changes the fact that Hürrem is objectively in the wrong here. If anything it's a massive learning curve for her and the impetus for future character development. But that's a whole other conversation entirely.

[dyingroses]

She seemed so genuinely happy to see her friend and be able to give her friend a better position and stuff, but then the horrors of her situation caught up with her . . . . . 

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If you don't see someone here, is because the Top 3 were in the previous poll.

No, Hürrem is not here either because so far she just doesn't register for me due to the character (this is not about the actress at all, btw, as isn't the rest).

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Feel free and encourage to discusse btw.

Respect the hatunlar tho, of course, or Daye will beat you to death.

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Why did Gulnihal forgive Hurrem the poisoned fur incident? I don't remember Hurrem even apologising for that :(

Because Gülnihal is too precious and good for this world and a literal angel. (It also probably helps that Gülnihal had a front row seat to just how isolated Hürrem was early on in the show and that losing one of her only friends would only make her spiral further in ways that would only be harmful to Hürrem and everyone else, even if she did tell her that it was a horrible thing to do that to her).

And also I'm fairly sure Hürrem does apologise. Or at least acknowledge what she did and that Gülnihal was a far better friend to her than the other way around when she was exiled and Gülnihal chose to go with her. And she made an effort to be a far better friend after that.

[cherrymoonss]

me: I wish there was a fic in which Gülnihal takes revenge. I can't believe she forgives hurrem so easily

My friend: why don't you write one?

Me: https://archiveofourown.org/works/50731954#/

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[beatricecenci]

Frederic Leighton (English, 1830-1896)

Gülnihal

[gulnarsultan]

I LOVED your yandere husband Suleiman headcanons. I was wondering if you could do a part with Suleiman's reaction to hurrem fighting with reader out of jealousy? Anyway love your work. Keep going.

Hello. I am so glad you liked it. Thanks a lot for your nice comment.❤

Do you remember the episode in which İbrahim Pasha sent Günihal Hatun to the seclusion? Meanwhile, Hürrem was pregnant. (withe Şehzade Mehmed.) A reader is chosen instead of Gülnihal. After that night, she becomes Suleiman's favorite woman.

Scenario.

Hürrem Hatun was very angry. Because she was no longer Sultan Suleiman's favorite woman. After Mehmed's birth, Suleiman no longer visited Hürrem. He was spending all his time with his new concubine. Hürrem Hatun went to the well-prepared Suleiman. However, she was not allowed to enter through the door. Because Suleiman was spending time with his new concubine in the room. When Hürrem Hatun forcefully enters the room, Suleiman gets up from the table in anger. Meanwhile, the concubine was lying in bed. The concubine slowly sat up in bed. Hürrem Hatun is trying to attack the concubine at once. Suleiman immediately goes in front of Hürrem to protect his concubine.

"Who are you? How do you break into my room? How do you try to attack and harm my concubine?"

"You loved me. You betrayed me and our love."

"I've never been in love with you. My only love is the woman in front of you. Now get ready. I'm driving you to the Old Palace."

"You can't. I'm the mother of the prince."

"Soldiers. Take Hürrem Hatun to her room immediately."

After Hürrem Hatun is taken from the room, Suleiman lies next to the frightened concubine. He pulls the concubine into his arms and strokes her hair.

"Don't worry. No one can hurt you."

[mc-critical]

I know I'm retreading old ground here, but I'll always love Süleiman and Gülfem's little scene in E15, because it reveals everything about both Gülfem herself and her relationship with Süleiman now and going forward. Gülfem's role as a conscience in general and for Süleiman in particular emerges, since when his relationships with his women are put to the test, she is the person he turns to as the first woman he's possibly hurt, as the one embodying that distant past everyone seeks to forget but can't as it always resurfaces all over again (and it's sad and telling that she's remembered only in occasions like these). Gülfem as Süleiman's conscience builds off of Hafsa's, Ibrahim's, Mustafa's and Hatice's isolated moments where they've been consciences for Süleiman yet in this scene it completely distinguishes itself as more of a deeper conscience, privy to Süleiman's inner world in ways we don't know but they themselves do, wholly embracing this moment that's just between them both. But the more her view of what she experienced unveils to us, the more this privyness and understanding Gülfem has for her closest springs forth as the coping mechanism she's developed in order to deal with her circumstances - she loves these people so much, so they're by no means at fault, she is, something has to be missing with her in order for it that devasting end to have come forth (her loss has sadly done a number on her self-worth too: how could someone as ""average"" as her advice Hatice on what to write to Ibrahim??; how could someone as ""average"" as her not be at fault??). She clearly isn't over it (shown by her resentment that occasionally crops up especially in her dynamic with Mahidevran, but also a bit by some of her looks during Mehmet's naming ceremony), but she has to accept it, to go with the flow, to cling to fate and the might of Allah as well (her urging Hatice for them to pray to Allah for Ibrahim in E14, also "When we lost our children* at a very young age, I accepted it as the will of Allah."; it's fascinating how close this brings her to both Hatice and Mahidevran: all three of them lean on fate like that, but Gülfem has experienced something so irreperably final and severe that every sign of something good happening, she'll openly and gladly take it, so is able to see the silver linings in Hatice's experiences that Hati herself can not; both Mahidevran and Gülfem lean on Allah, but unlike Mahi who expects and strives for justice for her suffering that's supposedly outside of Allah, Gülfi lets it go and associates the suffering itself too with Allah, if not with herself), focusing on what she already has, taking it with full hands.

And since that entails the people she supports, the last idea of family remaining to her as SS is so unreachable, and she can't bear to lose them too, the only thing left for her is to love them and idealize them but in different ways and amounts due to her different relationships with them, thus creating a sort of a hierarchy of fondness and idealization: going from Mahidevran (who I guess Gülfem is in good terms with not just due to her good relations with Hatice, but also because she's gotten too used to her as part of the family as well; as an ally, a main part of Gülfem processing everything, so when another person like Hürrem appears who's likely to challenge that status quo, that calm Gülfi has absorbed, she stands behind Mahi, shown in E08; btw, Hürrem too may have also become quite a part of that fondness and idealization line later on, but more about that when I get to S04), to Hafsa (the mother figure for whose will Gülfem's respect is usually absolute), to Hatice (the companion she's closest to, so she's able to give her a lot more empathy and understanding), to finally Süleiman, the last pillar of that hierarchy precisely because he's so unreachable and so dear she couldn't express it until this E15 scene and even then not fully. Even if, along with her understanding of them, she can and has called out others when she feels they're unjust namely due to her fondness of them, Süleiman is completely idealized in her mind, put on that pedestal of everything Gülfem yearns for in her life, of the peace he currently emanates but hasn't gotten from any of his women in return according to Gülfem (and it's interesting that Hürrem comes up promising a calmness to SS after she returns from her exile the same episode). But he won't emanate it much longer and the more her loved ones become disillusioned with him and are then stripped away from Gülfem by him, she starts to notice it in ways she can't deny.

So it's perfect that this scene, the first one that directly verbalizes how much loyalty means to SS especially in terms of his women and presents Gülfem as the first such loyal figure, sets her up as the last and perhaps most striking opposer of that idea. Her final act of defiance only appears sudden; it was always meant to happen like this.

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This grey, purple, green and blue striped bolero jacket was first worn by Gülnihal Hatun during the first season of Magnificent Century. The jacket is worn again by an unnamed harem member in the twelth episode of the second season. It was seen twice in the third season. First it was worn by Rita, Helena Hatun’s sister, and then by Gülbahar Kalfa.