#fuck you spinless people

[ethan-nestor-owns-my-heart]

I genuinely find it fucking disgusting the way people are talking about their excitement for Neve returning and forgetting what they did to Melissa. Melissa stood against genocide and they fired her and ran a smear campaign against her. I don’t care what you think about scream 5 and 6 I don’t give a shit that it’s “Neve Campbell’s franchise” that isn’t what this is about. This isn’t about the plot to the movies or your favourite characters. This is fucking censorship. IT IS CENSORSHIP. Melissa was FIRED FROM HER JOB FOR STANDING UP FOR PEOPLE BEING MURDERED. stop making this about the fucking movies, stop sitting there tweeting about your “excitement” for neve to return when it is a product of CENSORSHIP. They’re trying to shut you up and silence Palestinian voices, they’re giving you a lollipop to distract you from the suffering of millions of Palestinians. I cannot stress enough how neve being hired IS NOT A GOOD THING. I’m seeing people who claimed to be mad about Melissa’s firing jumping for joy at the news about neve, they never cared about what Melissa stood for. Spyglass are Zionists, using fearmongering to shut people up about Palestine yet people will fund them because a white woman came back to a movie. FUCK EVERYONE CELEBRATING SCREAM 7.

[bilbobagginsomebabez]

framing voting as exclusively oppositional to organizing is harmful in the long-run. it's one tool in your toolbox with one purpose (largely at this point the maintenance of the right to vote and to some extent harm reduction.) you will need a full toolbox with lots of different types of tools with different purposes to fix the engine (political system.) throwing out a tool when you're building your toolbox is not a recipe for long term efficacy.

it's harm reduction not because the Dems are our friends and allies. it's harm reduction because they're less scary and easier to fight than a straight up fascist. it's just straight up easier to legitimately organize and advance our rights in blue states right now. they're taking fewer away and they're doing it more slowly. that's a better environment to burn shit down in, there are fewer fucking cops emboldened by an outright fascist talking head. the environment in which you organize is less hostile under blue leadership and they are creating fewer new monsters to fight. that's a good thing to me.

will voting save the world? no. we have to organize. it's yes and. it's this does a useful thing in a broader strategy. the broader strategy we've got right now is "lesser evil until we've organized enough to have a better option." bc throwing out your tools is always stupid.

in your local elections, you can start canvassing and telling people about the Russian strategy to break their single party dominance, which is voting for the largest second party in any given area. you'll have to create an alternate voting strategy for American politics and electoral structures. if you want to pursue similar grassroots-organized voting strategies, you'll have to actually like go outside and speak to people in your regional area because elections are limited to a regional area, which is still different from not voting. because the right to vote is important, they're trying to take it away, and it's in our collective best interest to maintain it. I've read that our first past the post voting structure creates two-party systems as a result of it's nature. our best shot to break the parties is ranked choice voter reform. the blue party is more amenable to that than the red one. it's easier to convince them. I'd rather be arguing with Nancy pelosi than Ron desantis. I don't trust either of them, but Nancy's bullshit isn't genocidal in nature.

You telling me lancer supports fascist rethoric? Aw fuck i was planning on buying the book, do you have any recs for alternatives?

i mean i wouldn't say that--not more so than like any vote-blue-no-matter-who DSA member liberal does (i will leave the amount that is as an exercise to the reader). the lancer guys obviously don't support fascism, they would definitely identify as antifascists, they just have that very particular lib mindset where they clearly believe that any violent, militant opposition to fascism or capitalism is Bad because Violence Begets Violence. like if you'd be comfortable buying a game made by your average elizabeth warren i wouldn't discourage you from buying lancer on political grounds, the lancer guys aren't like, james raggi or anything

[sepiamestus]

Anyways if i see one more person giving chappel roan shit for not endorsing harris I'll actually snap. She's your perfect lesbian icon until she has an opinion you don't like and suddenly she's a disgrace to queer folks. She is not your fucking political endorsement machine she is a real human person with her own morals. It genuinely blows my mind how people are turning on her so fast because she said that both political parties, which have been and intend to keep funding a year long genocide, have problems. You're all fucking spinless

[wooimbouttamakeanameformyself]

You are absolutely right. Danneel is not a saint but also Jensen isn't one. With the hole prequelgate people started to complain about Danneel... but also Jensen was part of it. And no... he wasn't obligated by Danneel, he had 2 years to tell Jared about TW and he didn't. And when the problems started with TW he said that Jared was drunk when he tweeted those messagges but it wasn't true, and he never apologised. He is spinless, he changes personalities with everyone. He tried to do something like he had with Jared with Misha, and throwing Jared under the bus multiple times, but it didn't work. He fucked up with, maybe, the only true friend he had. He doesn't want to take his responsabilities. No, he is not the poor prey or an "alpha man" like an AA said onetime. He has no personality and if something doesn't go how he wants he start to shame theese people, he did it with Jared, Misha, Danneel, Sera Gamble...

He is possevive and controlling because he doesn't like when people outshine him

Heavy on the ‘he doesn’t like when people outshine him’ part. It took a lot for me to switch my opinion on Jensen, as I used to be another Dean-superfan, but when you open your eyes a little you realise this guy ain’t all that, and that he’s kind of a dick, shallow, too macho, radiates fragile masculinity.

I honestly think that’s why he settled for Danneel, she wasn’t known at all — still isn’t, outside of supernatural. I don’t think his ego could’ve handled being with an actress who had the same amount or more fame than him.

[perfecteggpartyland]

im not the other anon but ig when compared to other characters kevin can come off as a coward. and i do think "Kevin is a coward" and "it's completely normal for kevin to be afraid of riko" can exist at the same time.

but when pitted against neil for example. i can see see how kevin might seem that way. neil does run away from his father, but ultimately, he only really does that while under the control of his mother. Neil explicitly doesn't want to keep running. and stops very soon after his mom is dead and she can no longer force him to. and the decision does frighten him, I mean he has panic attacks about it, but he keeps doing it despite that. he plans to stay even before Andrew offers him protection, so he doesn't need that crutch like kevin does.

neil also isn't afraid of riko, even when he should be or when he's literally torturing him. he's not afraid of tetsuji either. or even really ichirou. even scenes with his father and lola, I mean he says lola looks like a whore to her face when she's about to torture him 💀 he says "fuck you" to his father when he threatens to cut the tendons in his legs. and he does try and fight Nathan and the others like he punches lola in the throat 😭 I'm just kinda listing of neils actions, but hopefully it makes sense? like I'm not saying neil is always unaffected or unafraid cause its not true, but he has more bravery than I think most ppl do cuz i know I wouldn't be cursing out these ppl if I was face to face with them.

and when we see compare Kevin's behavior to that a lot of it can come off as cowardice.

I think the real problem is seeing coward as a bad thing to be. which maybe sometimes it is. but it seems odd for the fandom to say "oh it's okay to be afraid" and then act like it's an insult to call Kevin a coward. its not bad if he is one. it's just a personality trait, it doesn't make him a bad person. I don't think anyone who calls Kevin a coward is attempting to make some moral judgement of his character, they're just noting a personality trait they observed in him.

Ok the problem is that a lot of people who call Kevin a cowerd ARE making moral judgements of his character; Kevin is rightfully afraid of riko and a literal Yakuza; he grows up in the nest where Neil spent two weeks and as further more traumatized; a lot of people don't take that into Consideration . Kevin not spouting up insults like Neil is not cowardance. he can keep his temper in check; neil is being hypocritical too cause like as u said his mom abused him yet he loves her ; and Kevin grew up with riko and still sees him as a brother figure; that's normal not to mention Neil is afraid of his father and think Kevin is coward. for Kevin his fear is riko. I think it all depends on what you think bravery is; Neil can't keep his temper in check and all his roasts and "bravery" has had awful consequences a lot of times. if Kevin was really coward he wouldn't tell Neil to run away while in the middle of season once he found out his identity knowing game would be at risk; he still offered to talk to Neil about riko when he's rightfully terrified and had a panic attack after seeing him. He never gave up on exy learned to play with his other hand and in the end he manages to stand up to riko; and beats him. It just pisses me off when Kevin's characters good traits are all ignored in favor of him being labeled as a spinless coward ; when that's not the case. Bravery is not only shit talking or knife swinging to me. And I hate the world coward generally; he's traumatized just as much as the other foxes and other than his rightful fear of riko and actual Yakuza he's not a coward and in the end he does stand up to him/them so he's not even a coward anymore. It shouldn't be such a large part of Kevin's description in the end at least ; by that logic jean is also a coward? And I've never seen someone call him that badly over the years.🤷

[prettypinkkat]

Alright I'm fucking bored and spinless. Tell me which of these should I give to helion?

This is all for shiggles and it might or might not affect how I portray him in my au. Anyways I want to hear the people. And yes you can choose based on either logic or rule of cool.

[sftbrtin]

THIS fic is such a masterpiece.

I've already read it, likely earlier this year, but rereading it was still so meaningful. for me the end truly shows who Brian really is, whether that is in fiction or in actuality (in the show). He shames and call out people for being miserable or hiding, to end up in his apartment and found out he just did the same. WHY IS THIS SO FUCKING ACCURATELY BRIAN? i love those type of fic that are just so typically Brian and just punch you in the gut with how accurate they are, regardless of what little or big change happens in the fic.

Brian moved to NYC, Justin still got bashed in but plot twist is.. Justin hasn't seen Brian since Brian left for NYC and has big ass bad aftermath of the bashing, and truly that fic just feels so accurate, how everyone will help Justin to be able to live day by day but will not push further than his boundaries to try and help to be who he was before. Brian being thought to be a thoughtless jerk that never showed up, just for him to have taken time off of work because he was sick and tired of Justin lack of progress and just living a stagnant life, having had showed up after the bashing and him being an asshole just to arrive at his place and realize that he too had been stagnant and had no progress in life since the bashing because he cares for Justin but people kept on thinking he didn't and because he is an emotionally spinless ass, he didn't try to argue and got news through whatever means he could and had a liveless apparemment.

THAT FIC TRULY. a masterpiece.

I'll do think piece I guess on fanfic I read because I have issues and I miss them

[thowawayuntilfurthernotice]

Alright, might as well discuss Viv’s latest Twitter rant before I move onto other stuff.

I’m not gonna bother going through the whole thing, because it’s the same fucking talking points.

Viv, you can’t just keep painting your critics with a broad brush, because that isn’t gonna solve anything. Like I’ve said before, there are plenty of bad faith arguments regarding Viv and her shows. From people bringing up old posts from 2016 to nitpicking every single line and joke etc.

Also, if you’re gonna talk shit about a specific person or group, the least you could do is address them directly. Because all this vague posting nonsense is getting kinda old.

What I also find interesting about this recent rant is her insisting that the people who dislike her shows are bigots, which is hilarious considering that she misgendered KenDraws and accused them of being a groomer on Discord.  

I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again, Vivienne Medrano is an objectively terrible person, and no amount of “But she was nice to me” posts is gonna change that fact.

This is what happens when you surround yourself with spinless yes men who are too afraid to say anything remotely constructive about your work, you end up with a giant ego and delusions of grandeur.

Can’t wait for Viv to double down on all the worst aspects of her shows just so she can brag about “Flexing on her haters” on Twitter while her fans continue to kiss her ass.  

[blackstarchanx3new]

Creations AU FNAF 4, But I obnoxiously over explain it PT 3

FNAF 4 pages 60-90

*Warning ahead for heavily abusive language.

Oh boy I sure hope we get an answer.

Lmao mom and dad are fighting.

Yikes Diana that's not very nice.

Hah nope.

Okay but why did people think this genuine moment between William and his son was somehow malicious???

Dude is just talking to his son who is currently breaking down wtf is wrong with some people??? XD

This was after Sister Location on webtoon too so there should be no excuse for this bad faith reading of William's character after some of the scenes in that comic. I won't spoil but like...??????????

Like William is a bad person in cannon and this comic but it's legit-

William: *breathes*

Audiance: YOU BASTARD!!!!!

HE'S A PERSON TOO AND IS WRITTEN AS SUCH?

The reference to being a devil will only make more sense as the FNAF 1 ARC draws to a close.

Oh ho ho hooooooo.

So, that's why Sammy's a fucking weirdo about robots in the FNAF 1 Arc.

Also this gives context to the whole scene where Mike and his sister in law talk about Charlie still being alive while having a grave in the FNAF 1 Arc.

The one walking around is a robot.

So unlike everything implied in cannon: Creations William loves his children.

Is it always in a healthy/good way: NO. AND THAT WILL ONLY BECOME MORE APARENT AS FNAF 1'S ARC COTNENUES.

He even loves the one that indirectly KILLED one of his others lmao.

I just enjoy giving William an actual character. Lmfao. Unlike a lot of people who get on a high horse for making him a plank of wood. X'D

Yes. he's evil man you wrote the most basic boring bland mother fucker on the planet to be said antagonist. You're very cute making that your antagonist while not thinking about how making him that fucking boring and personalities affects the themes or ideas of your work. Here's a fucking cookie???

I hate this way of writing William if you can't tell lmfao.

"He can't have a motive or you're humanizing him" is such a horse shit take and I won't stfu about it considering how prevalent of an idea that shit was on Twitter. X'D

Idk if this is a wake up call that women can be abusers too but like, they can be lmao. Trust me on that.

Oops. The demon thing heard you.

William's default to dealing with Diana is to try and fix things and placate her enough to where she won't go nuclear. Which is sad, but he sucks in different ways.

Really they are a tale of "A match made in hell".

Everyone makes shitty choices here lmao.

Diana antagonizes somebody off their rocker and William's a spinless bastard to both his wife and his creepy demon.

He didn't wanna do it himself and I find that amusing.

The poorest of poor choices were made by everyone involved.

There's little sympathy for any parties here lmao. Except maybe Ballora. X'D

That instant regret lmao. "I MADE A MISTAKE WOOPS"

That's a repeat thing with our good ol Willy boy.

He makes a mistake, and then keeps repeating the same mistake lmao.

William is stuck in a loop of perpetually falling into making the same mistakes over and over and it is a theme of the series WILLIAM is the one who needs to solve HIS OWN problems.

William takes no accountability where it's REALLY NEEDED, blames and pushes it onto others can't find the strength to fight his own inner demons and falls into the same pitfalls over and over.

Hehe your house is a bit odd there William.

William's just fed up with everyone involved in this situation lmao.

I mean yeah, the demon thing IS a bad liar.

He directly cause Diana to die lmao.

And I like William calling him out on that. William in some part is scared of his own inner demons taking form as this thing that mimics him.

"The demon" as I call him is important and also a direct reflection of William's own mistakes. William not confronting or taking care of this "Demon" in any meaningful way part of the damn problem.

Why the fuck you lyyyyyyin.

Why you always lyyyyyyin'-

That bold faced lie will only become more apparent as the story goes on. This bitch has plenty of agency he just likes William to take the fall for everything.

Which in a way is fair. He is a result of William's as well. ;)

Once again have reached the image cap because WHYYYY

[100jewels-between-teeth]

ignoring the fact that the game is based in the world of a book series written by a horrible transphobic cunt, why the fuck are you so ready to play an antisemitic game. like it's just like right there in your face. but like you don't care about that, do you? you don't care about anyone else but yourself and it's fucking obvious. all you care about is playing a shitty game because you're too much of a spinless coward to step away from a book series that isn't even that good because you love giving money to someone who will use that money to harm other people. do the world a favor and go kill yourself.

[wack-ashimself]

Only bad, dumb, brainless, spinless, cowardly people say "I was just doing my job." Doesn't matter what career path they took: judge, lawyer, doctor, cop....realizing a lot of these are centered around 'justice' when we have THE LARGEST SLAVE PRISON POPULATION IN WORLD HISTORY. Irony, cubed.

Doing your job makes YOU FUCKING EVIL AND THE BAD GUY! THAT IS A GOD DAMN CHOICE! You chose to do bad, you are bad. Doesn't matter if someone else TOLD you to do it; YOU DID IT!

[siderealxmelody]

------

"Where is he?"

"I have a question for you first Sebastian."

He glared at Tharion, his lightning snaking up his arms.

"Ask me after I see my boy. Where. Is. He."

Tharion ignored him, he stood in the doorway of the Forest Home with his arms crossed.

"Who will you be giving your ring to?"

Sebastian growled, his lighting slicing on Tharion's skin hard enough to make him hiss and touch the cut.

"The fuck -"

Sebastian shoved past him stepping into the warm wood paneled home. He looked back at him, they both knew Tharion would have killed him if he didn't actually want him here.

"You know how many fucking people have asked me that since I came back? I'll give it to whichever my sons deserves it."

"It was given to Zimri first."

"Are you asking me if Zimri deserved it? Does it matter? Will you stop their mating if Aleksander doesn't come tied to a kingdom?"

Tharion stiffened, his smile was sardonic. He stepped around Sebastian beginning to lead him further inside.

"I'm flattered you think I could stop my girl in anything she wants."

------

Sebastian sat with Aleksander, his fingers playing with the ring on his finger. The Terresan jewel the color or his mother's eyes, of Angelika and his eyes. It still rankled him that everyone asked him, Angelika and her girls were more than capable of it.

"Will he come to kill him?"

Zimri and he both looked to Anastasiya. Sebastian shook his head standing.

"No. Andulvar is a lot of things but he won't attack children...I won't let him attack Aleksander in any -"

"He isn't a child Pa."

"You think he can survive a Blood Duel Zimri?"

Zimri's jaw worked and he looked away. Sebastian squeezed Aleksander's shoulder. He longed to cut and run, take his boy away from this entire long night. He looked to Zimri moving to touch his cheek.

"I know you want them to grow up fast, to be able to survive in a world that they aren't ready for. But throwing them to the proverbial wolves isn't the answer. It may have worked for the mother and I but it's not a route we wish to ever take."

It was bad enough all they saw those two weeks. Sebastian exhaled, feeling that oppressive sense of doom and rot.

Andulvar was here, and he was shaking with his rage.

"Stay here, keep them -"

"Why can't I fight Andulvar then? I'm more than capable of it. I'll -"

"Have you spoken with Arbela yet?"

Zimri frowned, thrown by the question.

"I - we talked this morning...why? She's been busy helping Ma. Why?"

Sebastian patted his cheek and stepped around him.

"Maybe ask her love."

Sebastian ignored his son's glare. He would not let Arbela raise that child alone. Even if it was too early to tell by anyone else but him and Natalia. Even if she wasn't comfortable yet telling Zimri without knowing for sure if it'll take. There had been too many children dying this last decade. Noelle's neice, Alina...even if Alina was fine now. Seeing how she'd been still terrified them both.

"Andulvar how is -"

"Your boy needs to answer for his crimes! She won't speak now Sebastian. What did he do to my baby girl? How dare he -"

Sebastian stepped toward him, The Forest Home rising above them both. He held his hands up placating.

"There had to be a different solution. Aleksander is sorry, he got carried away. He didn't mean to -"

"Didn't mean to? All your talk of Azriel and her as children. You think she wasn't listening to that? You think she didn't like the fucking fairytale? And where was Azriel in all this? He found her and thought nothing of letting it happen! If it is true what you say of them - then rather she die than be bound to such a spinless male."

Andulvar lunged toward him, his magic swelling. But the blow never came, Sebastian watched in numb shock as the arrow sank into his neck. As his body fell and went still. Would Zimri have -

Narcissus jumped down from the trees, Sebastian's hackles rose. He was cover in blood, but that wasn't what filled with dread. His eyes held no light, dead and void of color.

Something had made him snap into that Beast Mind.

"Narcissus? I was handling him just -"

"You're the head of our family. My parents are dead, my sister and brother -"

He chocked, light flaring before being extinguished again. He balled his hands into fists, ignoring the commotion that was coming from the Forest Home. He saw Anastasiya and Zimri running to them.

Narcissus ignored them, baring his teeth. He held the note up shoving it at Sebastian.

"Charmaine's brothers are free, they got retribution tonight for what Aerleas and Aedion did that night to their sister. Luscia - lusica found her mate tonight, he was part of Charm's group. He mated and claimed here tonight, he broke her Sebastian. She and - she and Phelan were taking to be Thralls. Nine years! Nine years in service for the nine years Charm suffered before her brothers could avenge her!"

He was shaking now, Sebastian could see Tharion and Amarantha now. He was rising everyone now. Sebastian bit back a sigh, hopefully Aleksander was listening. This was exactly the wrong reasons to do something. He stepped toward his nephew, careful to not trigger that violence again. Narcissus was softer than most Valg Males that grew up in the Old Country. But even he could snap given the right circumstances.

"And you killed Andulvar because?"

Narcissus face was grim, he didn't smile. Had he been there? Had he seen it happen??

"You owe me a Blood Debt now. I want my sister and brother taken from their custody. I want what's left of Charm's family destroyed."

Sebastian shut his eyes, but his peace didn't last long.

"And I want you all dead. Hypaxia will not survive loosing our father."

Ravenar glared at them, he had come for a fight. Sebastian glared at Zimri as he stepped forward at the threat. This was going to escalate into everything that had happened to Charm all over again. He could see it happen, his family would kill what was left of Hypaxia's family and leave her to it. And then what? He'd have the blood of his brother-in-arms on his hands.

Narcissus blinked at Ravenar. Before Sebastian could find some way to cut this tension. He saw Amarantha step forward. She passed Narcissus to Ravenar glaring at him.

"Maybe if your father didn't come here and disparage his family he'd have lived. I have no love for Aleksander but take the win. Go be with your sister -"

"Sweetheart, no one asked you to intervene. And if you're looking to actually convince me maybe use something other than that mouth."

Sebastian and Tharion both glared at Ravenar. Zimri hissed unsheathing his sword now.

"Fuck this. Amarantha step aside let me kill him for -"

Ravenar ignored them, touching Amarantha's cheek. To her credit she didn't flinch, only barred her teeth in a feral smile.

"You aren't worthy of touching any peice of me Ravenar. Maybe if you knew what consent was -"

His grip tightened on her cheek and then was gone. The blood sprayed on her and around them. Narcissus's blade was covered with blood, Ravenar lay on the ground, his throat slashed. Amarantha inhaled touching the blood on her cheek and looking to Narcissus.

"You didn't need to do that Narcissus I was -"

"He doesn't get to touch you."

Sebastian eyes slid closed, there was a dangerous edge there. A possesivness that if he didn't know better Narcissus had managed since he could remember. Amarantha didn't shy away, she simply touched his wrist.

"I know. Thank you."

"So why didn't you?"

He should play the hood brother, the moral side. But he didn't have the energy for that and if the rumors were true...

"This coming war will be worse than anything we've faced Zimri. How do we prepare the children for that?"

Xaden still saw them as something to protect. He didn't see the blood on their hands, the rage they carried like their magic now. They had been as affected by their father's death as everyone else. Even if Sebastian had come back after two weeks...those two weeks had left a stain on all of them.

Anastasiya glared at him, her fingers rightebing around Aleksander's waist.

"Not everyone will react the way you want them to Zimri. I know what you allowed Aerleas and Aedion to do to Luther and Charmaine all those years ago -"

"And? You hear the same rumors I do Anastasiya. You want your mate to die because he couldn't kill a two-bit female who played with his heart -"

She stood, stepping toward him. The heat was unbearable now. She glared down at him, if the war proved to be the kiln he thought - she'd come out of ruthless as his mate had.

"You have anything useful to say, stay. If not get out. He doesn't need shit like that from -"

[louishandkink]

/

[firelord-frowny]

here’s my Obligatory Nine Eleven Post that i may or may not expound upon tomorrow. 

I’m not EXACTLY sure what grade i was in (bc i skipped a grade and so it’s hard for me to Do The Math* and figure out how old or what grade i was in in any given year), but i remember my mom explaining to me that two planes crashed into two buildings and that a fuckton of people died, 

and i literally just said “that’s stupid!” and then she kinda gently scolded me like ~don’t say that, this is a very serious and terrible thing, we have to respect the severity of this~ blah blah 

she didn’t Get that i wasn’t saying it was a stupid event - i was saying that it was stupid to crash a plane into a building. as in: how do you crash into a whole building when you have so much sky to maneuver in? how bad of a pilot do you have to be to hit a building??? what kinds of absolute MORONS were flying those things???

bc it literally did not compute in my lil baby brain that someone would do something like that on purpose. my lil baby brain just KNEW that it HAD to be a ridiculous accident, because nobody crashes vehicles on purpose, because nobody’s stupid enough to not go in a different direction if they see a bigass obstacle in front of them. it was “stupid” in the same way that walking out into the middle of a busy street is stupid. it was “stupid” in the same way that climbing over the railing in a polar bear exhibit at the zoo is stupid. 

but tbh, my feelings about it haven’t changed much - it really IS so fucking stupid to cause mass death and terrorize people and render them scarred for life. ANY action that damages the psyche of an entire world is stupid, because it doesn’t make anything better for anyone. It makes people sick and afraid and angry and mean and violent. even the perpetrators of shit like that get damaged, because doesn’t a person HAVE to be fundamentally fucked up on the inside to even want to do something like that in the first place??? 

Ridiculous. Stupid. I hate it here. 

[fizz-pop-thwip]

This makes me want to discuss how similar Peter and Steve are and Peters role in Civil war.

Peter and Steve are SO similar in so many ways it makes me wanna explode.

His strong moral compass, for example. Peter will always do what's right, even if he is told not to, he stands his ground regularly even against the people he respects the opinion of the most. (Both Steve and Peter have a massive problem with authority) they both have a strong feeling of responsibility to do what's right even if the situation makes it difficult or sometimes even hardly possible to do so.

They both have experience as a 'little guy' seeing as both of them became 'super' later in life and it definitely comes across in both their characters, being quieter in larger groups, looking out for the little guy, in general a very humble self image.

I have thought about their difference, when it comes to killing and I think that's from how they were able to contribute to the cause.

Steve was desperate from the start to do his part and play a helping role in the war, this required to kill. Going out on a battlefield like that you can't spare the enemy, it's not rational to. Any soldier is a helping hand to the opposite war effort and could kill 10 other guys on your side, it's not just to keep them alive because they will continue to kill and hurt.

Peter never grew up around war and had never been required to kill to do his part. Peter has always been able to do what he does and keep people alive to keep his own moral code, even if it's a worse outcome for him. Also considering how his origins were born from a death, he wouldn't want to cause more.

Peter cannot bring himself to kill, unless it involves a loved one, like in nwh when he has to be stopped from killing Green goblin, or how he stops himself from killing Uncle Ben's murderer (unconfirmed in mcu, but I like to believe). In fact the first time we ever see Steve kill a man of his own volition is to save Bucky.

Steve also believes that killing is wrong, but for him it's always been necessary and he won't kill when he doesn't have to, he wont fight unless he has to which he often is forced to.

I am a firm believer, if given the full story, Peter wouldn't have helped Tony the way he did. Be fully on caps side though? That's a different question. If it was simply about the accords I think peter would have struggled to side with Tony but if he also had the knowledge of why Steve was protecting Bucky, the person he loves so dearly, who's been through fucking hell, he definitely wouldn't be on Tony's side.

This would obviously change tony and peters relationship to a massive degree, but I'm not here to theorize would could have been.

Just like how people always seem to forget Steve isn't Americas perfect soldier, they always forget that Peter isn't mindless and spinless, he has his own thoughts and feelings when presented a situation. In Cacw, he was simply working minimal information, which you could argue hes at fault for not looking more into it but we obviously have to keep in mind that this is a 14 year old and his idol who's come to recruit him. Its naive but hes still a kid and hes going to believe what Tony Stark says when he comes to his house and invites him to Germany.

And of course that's the REASON Tony didn't provide all the information, because not only would the accords have directly effected Peter but giving Peter anything other then what was provided would risk loosing his support.

Anyway, I just think the similarities are are craycray and if you like Peter you cannot possibly hate Steve.

Hey people write Steve in character challenge GO

(warning long ass post ahead, character analysis turned Civil War analysis BC I'll never shut up about that movie)

Right off the bat, Steve isn't and has never been a rule follower. Steve has an extremely strong moral compass, he has the strongest feeling of right and wrong and he is going to go after the right thing even if he's told not too. This is so prevalent in ANY captain America movie.

Why he behaves so seriously would also come from how he grew up. He wasn't taken seriously ever due to his size and his health, if he wasn't loud and clear on what he thought, no one would be paying attention. But to be honest, I think the movies kinda do him wrong when showing he isn't serious outside of battle, he's always coping with some kind of fight or dilemma or stressful situation to be fixed, especially with the role of leader on his shoulders it's his job to take it seriously. On the rare occasions we do see him relaxed we can see he's just a calm and polite guy who's just maybe a little quiet in big groups. (Which would also be a product of his pre-serum days. In big groups no one's paying attention to the little guy)

I think a reason he's misconstrued as an asshole (aside from needing to be used as a plot point in a fic) is because of how he reacts in a battle. He's stern and being the leader of the group, is telling people what to do in the heat of battle. He takes problems seriously and looks at them from a very logical stand point, (again, which is his role as the leader) which is such a VAST fucking contrast from Tony who still thinks of problems from a logical stand point too but tries to find humor in every situation, even the world ending issues.

So it makes sense if you much prefer Tony's type of character, that you aren't going to like the way Steve handles problems, which is the opposite method of Tony's emotionally.

I think the first movie really enforced that divide between Tony and Steve fans with how opposing they were. And even with Age Of Ultron to clear the air, Civil War threw out all of the relationship we were supposed to believe they had.

If I'm being honest, on Marvel's behalf, I don't think they did a very good job in enforcing that Steve and Tony were good friends before Civil War. But it will always and forever be crazy to me that Tony would ever consider himself as close of a friend with Steve as Bucky is.

"I was your friend too"

He says like he was there when no one would listen to Steve, like he was there when no one took Steve seriously. Like he was there when Steve was sick all the time. Like he was there when Steve's mother died and he had no one. Like he was there for Steve when he got into fights he couldn't handle. Bucky was there since day one.

It links back to steve wishing to have someone who 'understood his experience' the ENTIRE catws movie being about how important Bucky is to Steve and Steve being willing to let Bucky KILL him to prove how much he cared. TONY AND STEVE NEVER HAD THAT CONNECTION.

And I know that's the point. I know that's the point of the movies, Bucky being the thing Steve is willing to leave the avengers for, the avengers who have been his new family in his time where he knows no one in a new world. But when I see people saying Steve betrayed Tony I just don't understand. Bucky means SO much more to Steve. And technically yes, the Avengers were all certainly helpful when he needed it, they were definitely important to him too, but they just don't compare to Bucky.

And quick side note, don't get me wrong, if someone killed my parents I'd want them dead too. It's not like I blame Tony's immediate reaction to the information but to look me in the eyes and say Tony had the right to, is ridiculous. Bucky was tortured and brainwashed and forced to kill and do what he did. That is an innocent man.

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