#fuck rick berman

[zaftigcyclist]

To be fair re: Voyager, a lot of the questions it poses on are less “what’s the most ethical option in this scenario?” and more “what ethically dubious actions will people justify for their own survival?”

I think that interpretation could work BUT they don’t portray the crew as ethically dubious. They portray them as upstanding starfleet officers (even the ones who were maquis).

I think the writers and actors had lots of ideas that could have been cooler than the end product. Rick Berman was a huge issue they couldn’t do them! And the politics of the show are a lot more regressive (in my mind) than other Star Trek.

They had a lot of opportunities to do cool shit and missed so many of them. Kate Mulgrew is an incredibly charismatic actress and they tied both hands behind her back.

[blue250604]

#SevenRaffiSpinoff

[ukiyaseed]

Just watched Star Trek DS9 "Tears of the Prophets". There are many ways to write Jadzia off the series (see reassigning her to the Enterprise) and turn her into a recurring guest star, but nope, Berman wrote her off in the worse way possible. I finally get the Rick Berman hate.

[deltaquadrantbaby]

I like Tom too but he’s so clearly a major contributor to B’Elanna’s internalized racism that it makes their scenes together difficult to watch 😭

It’s really been something that jumped out to me when I rewatched as an adult -

I think I’ll always like their relationship for the begrudging friends-to-lovers timeline that I loved so much as a kid. BUT watching scenes where he tries to ‘help’ her with her Klingon heritage and just comes off tone deaf is so hard

It’s one of those things where you can tell that the writers thought they’d hit on something great but just didn’t understand what they were trying to talk about enough.

Voyager suffers from this so much and it’s a shame, because I think it might have been nice to see them have a properly developed arc where Tom has to confront the fact that whether he means to or not he’s worsening things for B’elanna and that he needs to change the way he thinks about Klingon culture for the sake of his wife and daughter

[marxistgnome]

In real life I know that seven of 9 was wearing super tight clothes cos Rick Berman is a freak and a creep, but i like to think that in voyager the reason she wears those catsuits is because shes used to having all her clothes welded to her skin or whatever as a borg so the normal uniform gave her sensory issues so she asked them to just give her the tightest clothes possible to compensate and they were like uhhhh sure

[ensign-spider]

easily the best captions/credits combo cap

[zaftigcyclist]

I’ve heard that something similar happened with Terry Farrel after *spoilers ahead for a show that ended in 1999* Jadzia Dax dies in the sixth season and is replaced by Ezri Dax.

The final episode has a montage of memories with all the characters, but they can only show Ezri Dax instead of the six seasons worth of memories showcasing the fantastic and wonderful Jadzia Dax.

Rick Berman, the worst guy, sexually harassed Farrel for years. When she asked to be moved to a recurring actor instead of main cast (just as Colm Meaney did), Berman killed her character off brutally.

Her agent or manager was asked if they could use footage of her in the final episode. The representative said no, citing Farrel’s refusal.

She wasn’t even asked! She would have said yes.

[source: an interview from the past few years with her on YouTube I watched that I cannot find right now]

So Prismo got recast in the Fionna and Cake show cuz Kumail Nanjiani's agents didn't let him know the crew was trying to get him back to reprise the role

[theeminentlyimpractical]

honestly really looking forward to the day when Michael Sheen and David Tennant go the full Andrew Robinson and Alexander Siddig route and not only get their own fanfic published but then film their own fanfic miniseries 20 years later and THEN do a whole series of script readings of other people’s fanfic because they still can’t get enough of their own ship

[enigma-the-mysterious]

Can't wait to fast forward 10 years where the fandom remembers Matalas for who he is- the Rick Berman of this era

[glue-enjoyer]

I wake up every single day cursing the name of Rick Berman. I hate him so much. It’s on fucking sight idc idc idc I hate him I’m foaming at the mouth praying in his doenfall somebody show him this it’s a real fucking threat

[youngpettyqueen]

I would hope they wouldnt do this after what they just put her through but im just stating now for the record that if Hoshi fucking dies im killing everyone in this show and then myself

[zaftigcyclist]

I love the ethical dilemma episodes, but I think my absolute least favorite source of them is Voyager (or as my household calls it, A Voy Voy).

TOS, DS9, VOY, and SNW (and probably TNG that I’m forgetting) all have an episode where someone pops up who either perpetrated or facilitated a genocide.

TOS makes it clear the person should be correctly identified and punished (likely with death). DS9 does the exact same.

VOY does this episode twice (once on the 50th anniversary of the US bombing Hiroshima and Nagasaki with an Oppenheimer episode and the other with a Dr Mengele riff). BOTH TIMES JANEWAY SIDES WITH THE GENOCIDE PARTICIPATOR. She makes Neelix APOLOGIZE TO THE MAN WHO ENABLED THE DEATH OF HIS PLANET. She overrides B’Elanna’s wishes to not be treated by the doctor who experimented on Bajorans and reprimands a bajoran crew member.

Almost every time the crew meets a group or planet fighting for freedom, Janeway cites the prime directive to not help (unless it benefits her). If a group wants to oppress another one (say the white people in the incredibly racist allegory of gang violence with the Kazon), she sides with the oppressor without considering the prime directive once.

I want to love Janeway because I love the actress and the idea of her as a captain. I am forced not to by stupid writing choices.

I want to enjoy Voyager. But it’s just so much worse politically/philosophically than TOS, TNG, DS9, DISCO, and LD. It has no revolutionary spirit, no love for humanity. It’s the worst type of centrism in a franchise that intends to aim for progress.

Fair or not, I blame Rick Berman!!!!

I love when Star Trek presents an ethical dilemma and then doesn't even try to solve it. Should you use the Nazi-allegory doctor's knowledge to save innocent lives? At what scale is someone else's life (or millions of lives) worth your own safety? Is violence against an oppressive government acceptable when it targets civilians? Who the fuck knows ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[eruscreaminginthedistance]

[maintitle]

i hate his ass I Hate His Ass I HATE HIS ASS

[animentality]

just want u to know whenever his name comes up in credits or something misogynistic happens in Star Trek my wife and I turn to each other in sync and say '/fuck you,/ rick berman'

UGH I'm so jealous that you have a wife to turn to when you're watching star trek.

Just fucking kill me on the toilet, why don't you

[tuttle-did-it]

hey it's that woman i like on that show i hate why would you force this woman to be a Booby Borg Barbie a horrible corset, high heels, foam boobs and catsuit for years when she looks this fucking good as a beautiful woman in a jumper, jacket and trousers.

Oh yeah. Rick Berman. That's why.

but I still hate that other show.

SEVEN OF NINE in STAR TREK: PICARD

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