#ftwd season 8b

[otto-troy]

I’m not okay :’)

Sob here , and here

[all-that-is-gold-is-now-gone]

Whatever you do, don't think about

Troy Otto just walking around the compound one day when he hears a laugh.

Her laugh

Troy whirls around searching the area for Serena, cause he hears her laugh. A sound he never thought he would hear again. Then his eyes land on the source of the laughter.

It's Tracy.

Tracy laughs like her mom.

[themuselesswriter]

This is the only time you’ll ever see me praising Daniel Salazar but he really did serve Madison in this episode!

[otto-serena]

We're officially the best-dressed couple of the apocalypse

@otto-troy

[wincheskka]

TROY OTTO IN THE FTWD 8B TRAILER (gifs)

HE LOOKS SO GOOD I CAN'T HANDLE IT !!!!

[gloomymerula]

[blvckqwz]

I was thinking about fear the walking dead (weird I know right?) , more specifically about troy and how WE NEVER FUCKING GOT TO SEE HIM AND HIS WIFE IM SO PISSED.

Like I fucking waited WEEKS just to know how he survived literally GETTING HIS SKULL CRACKED OPEN and somehow getting out from the dam before the explosion.

And instead we didn’t get any fucking answer like whyyyyy

Literally the only reason people started caring about fear was because Troy was back. They could have given us a bit more content instead of having to watch a whole ass episode about the Sanctuary 💀

I hate this

[ftwdb]

Things I noticed watching Season 8b FTWD (about Troy just because):

Spoilers, obviously.

Other than knocking her unconscious Troy genuinely doesn’t seem to want to hurt Charlie.

When he kicks her chair over there’s something about the motion where he’s almost avoiding actually touching/hurting her whilst still trying to be intimidating/threatening.

When he moves to unlock the walkers from their cages whilst she is shoeless and surrounded by glass, his little glance over his shoulder and sigh seems reluctant. I wonder if Charlie hadn’t spoken up at that point if he’d have gone through with it or if it was an empty threat.

Finally, he seems upset when she commits suicide to escape being a his “leverage” over Madison. I don’t think it’s because he lost his power with her gone, I think he feels genuine regret that she died.

Daniel Sharman is such a fantastic actor and can bring layers to characters even when writers are determined to keep them very two dimensional (you’re either the good guy or the bad etc)

His use of body language and facial expressions is so interesting to watch. He really embodies his character and that’s what makes Troy so great to watch.

[frangipanilove]

Eye of the Beholder; Troy’s journey as a Sirius Character from season 3 to season 8 of FTWD

I’ve talked about the Sirius symbolism for years, and written many posts about it. It ultimately means return/resurrection/rebirth, and it’s not seen just around Beth, tptb utilize it around many characters. Most notably around Rick, which I’ve discussed here. We also saw it around this handsome psychopath from FTWD, Troy Otto.

I’ve often pointed out how tptb offers us almost a blueprint to how to interpret the symbolism through the various spin-offs. We’ve recently seen Troy Otto “return from the dead” in FTWD, complete with one functioning eye, which is classic Sirius symbolism, and I wanted to elaborate some on his case, because it brilliantly demonstrates exactly how tptb use Sirius symbolism, and how consistently they use it across TWDU. There’s nothing random or accidental about it, it’s all carefully planned and executed.

Within minutes of appearing in his first episode, Troy was was marked by the Sirius symbolism. It was literally the first thing that happened to him in his first episode of FTWD, and the Sirius symbolism was fulfilled 6 years later (6 years for us, the audience. More if you go by the show timeline), when he returned “from the dead”.

Let’s explore his journey!

When Troy returned to FTWD is season 8b, as a Sirius character with one functioning eye, there really wasn’t any reason for anyone to be tremendously surprised. For starters, his “death" back in season 3 of FTWD was a textbook death fake-out situation. We watched Madison strike him across the side of his head with a hammer, we saw him fall down and we saw him laying unconscious inside the dam structure that was about to be blown up.

We didn’t see anyone stab him through the brain, we didn’t see him buried. It was heavily implied that he was dead, but there were never any sort of definite confirmation.

He didn’t return for season 4, and I don’t know if he was ever spoken about again on the show. That is, until we saw him in the coda of FTWD episode 8x6 All I See Is Red, and then in the trailer for FTWD 8B.

He was “gone” for a long time, until he suddenly was “resurrected”, in a coda (and OF COURSE we should read into that), seen by a radio (Sirius symbolism).

But that’s not the only reason we should have known he would eventually return as a one-eyed Sirius character. It was, in fact, foreshadowed pretty much from the second he introduced himself, in the first episode he ever appeared in, 3x1 Eye of the Beholder.

The name of the episode itself, “Eye of the Beholder”, is a clue. I’ve written countless posts about the Sirius symbolism, here’s an example (x). For TD, the most interesting part about the Sirius symbolism around Beth is the one-eyed dog from Alone.

He introduced himself to Madison and Alicia, and offered a nice cup of tea. We get this shot of a spoon as he says his name. Read about spoon symbolism here, it's tied to the North Star symbolism which I've also written about in a bunch of posts.

Madison wasn’t impressed with Troy or his beverages, and inevitably responded in the most Madison way imaginable, by stabbing the man through the eye, with the spoon we saw just moments earlier.

She stabbed him through the eye WITH A SPOON!!!

There are a bunch of other references to eyes in the episode as well:

There are references to death and resurrection:

There’s a clock on the wall, which happens to have its hands pointing to the 5 and the 8 (as in 5x8 Coda), a complete coincidence I’m sure, not at all related to all the talk about resurrections and eyes/Sirius symbolism:

There are a lot of numbers mentioned in the dialogue, such as this reference to 11 and 8 (which I’ve written about here and here):

And let’s not forget this mention of the number 17. Greg Nicotero famously stated in The Talking Dead that there had been 17 days between 5x8 Coda and the start of 5x9 WHAWGO. Many of TD’s theories revolve around what we believe happened in those 17 days. Here, we see that number in a scene where they’re experimenting on how long it takes from a person dies until they “resurrect”. They actually use the term resurrection in the episode. It's all about resurrection symbolism:

Tptb utilize the Sirius symbolism when a character is about to go through a death and resurrection arc. TD often focus on the Sirius symbolism around Beth, but I think it’s interesting to see how it’s used around other characters as well. Troy’s journey from episode 3x1 Eye of the Beholder to his "resurrection" in 8x6 All I See Is Red proves an excellent example of how tptb utilize the Sirius symbolism. It was literally around him from the second he was introduced in his first episode, and he was “gone” from TWDU for six long years. Tptb always have plan for a future death and resurrection arc when they introduse the Sirius symbolism. And like we've recently seen with Troy, the symbolism is always eventually fulfilled, even if it takes literal years.

When he returned in 8x6, it happened in a coda, which every TD’er quite rightly will heavily side-eye, and we saw him near a radio, which is Sirius symbolism. It was Madison’s voice on the radio that had led him to her, it was the radio that was the “instrument” that facilitated their unhappy reunion. I have a feeling there’ll soon be a different reunion, and I expect it to be of a more “happy” nature 😍

[happyvoltz]

helloooo you called some of your trick doodles 8b (Im obsessed with them btw)? what's that short for???

8b as in the latter 6 episodes of season 8, kinda like how twd season 11 was released as a b and then c or how ftwd s5-7 are split into an a/b format :p when i say 8b trick it’s just my au where nick and troy are together in season 8

[otto-troy]

"if you talk the talk, you better walk the walk"

Luciana, didn't walk the walk.

@isaywestay

[all-that-is-gold-is-now-gone]

Credit

[themuselesswriter]

This is one of the rare occasions where I share my art with you gorgeous people:’)

So... Enjoy a Total Drama adaptation of Troy Otto or the opposite!

For the process video, clickity click

[otto-serena]

Someone who isn't Troy hits on Serena Serena being offended and confused AF:

[wincheskka]

he takes my breath away !!!

[were-my-demons-hide]

Anyone up to discussing Ftwd Season 8b?