#freezing upon seeing the scenes of kanda's first appearance

[icharchivist]

It's actually pretty interesting how agreed upon certain things in fanon are vs how much of it is actually canon. An example being how (back a few years ago) in fanfics fan usually portrayed Kanda and Lavi as super close. Like best friends almost. But if you look at canon, how much interaction did those two teally have? It's cited how well they fight together but Lavi and Kanda fought well w/Allen before they even cared much for him. Most you get is Kanda getting irritated w/Lavi calling him -

2 Yu before giving up and being a occassional prank target (which apparently Kanda’s a boring target for). In canon and other sources Kanda is stated as being personally close to Lenalee, Teidoll and Marie (which you see in canon). In canon itself we’ve also gotten plenty of emotional developmemt in regards to Kanda’s relationships w/Johnny and Allen. For Lavi, his main friendships have always been Allen and Lenalee. He’s had much more focus w/his bond w/Krory over his bond w/Kanda. -

3 Frankly when you get down to it Kanda has more deeper genuine relationships then lavi does (makes sense. Lavi’s still new at this). Not saying they don’t have a friendship or their small moments. But they are definitely closer to a number of other characters then they are to each other. It’s kind of interesting what the fandom will latch on to promote as canon when there’s not much in canon to support it to that level (personally I’d love to see more Krory+Lavi friendship moments).

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welp so I know a lot of people who love them together and I kinda get it?? And I don’t want to be alienating them  either so i hope it doesn’t come this way dkjhfd 

Fanon had been in place for about *checks* 15 years, christ. DGM was also at its peak when the first anime came out from 2006 to…. 2008? And Kanda’s bounds and Lavi-being-a-liar all came rather late in that production when you think about it.

Idk, back in 2009 (when I was in the fandom) i know it was pretty much used in every fandoms to play on the “what if” and wonders how some relationship could go would they be given more time. Lavi and Kanda specifically got a lot of focus because 1) they are so different that they make for good foil and interesting ideas to develop i a fanon context, 2) They’re part of the main four and it’s often the case to want all four of them to have balanced relationships with each other (not just “hey so we accidentally all ended up caring about the same guy, what do we do”), 3) we know they have a past, and their developments with others relationship is more recent.

But most importantly, while i hadn’t watched it fully, the anime came out with a toooons of fillers, and i know some of them were missions between Kanda and Lavi in which they bickered and bantered a lot more than we’ve actually seen in the manga. It opened a large brunch of ideas to develop. And the anime team liked the main four (…. the three main guys tbh) ways too much and would rather develop them than develop the others characters and their bounds (and when the anime came out we had no idea how Kanda got along with anyone, like we knew he was a student of Tiedoll alongside Marie and Daisya, but we didn’t know if they cared about each other until the destruction of the order arc, which was far after the anime started making episodes. Likewise for one of his more caring scene with Lenalee that shows how much history they have that is set pretty late in the timeline in comparaison to what the anime covered to make fillers.)

So i think there’s a part of wanting to see back that dynamic from the anime back in the manga. While ye the fillers of the anime are far from canon. But I can’t blame anyone who watched it to want to see that dynamic again y’know? (especially since I know a ton of people prefer to watch anime over reading manga. Dgm is kinda one of the worst case of “you have to read the manga, don’t watch the anime unless you want bonus��� for me, but most people will try out the anime first to get a vibe and all. Kinda make me wish to have an anime adaptation to The Panel so i wouldn’t have to worry but yaknow.)

Now that THAT is being said: you’re entierely right about canon and their dynamic.

We have hints of their dynamics but they’re far from being very good friends. Hell even just Lavi calling Kanda “Yuu” now that we know that the only person who called him that was Alma and that it reminds him of Alma? That’s not just teasing that’s triggering. Like no wonder Kanda wanted to slice Lavi up multiple times. (not that Lavi knew it was that serious but yaknow he’s still a prick)

As for the Pranks, I just think Lavi had no survival instinct and Kanda has the blade easy so that makes for an easy rush. But even there sometimes Kanda is not receptive enough, too used to it. 

Lavi meanwhile only showed really profound connection with Allen, Lenalee and Krory i think? Well and Bookman, but that’s it. Lavi doesn’t connect much with people, especially not on an emotional level. He is aloof, he likes to joke and prank people, but he doesn’t do that because he cares. He’s just taking his fun and all.

Meanwhile, ye, Kanda had surprisingly very profound relationship with people, like you mentioned, Marie, Tiedoll, Lenalee and now Johnny and Allen. I think it’s again the fact that Kanda is more honest in general. Aside from those laters it’s all people he grew up with, so that might help a lot also with how people got used to his antics. Like it still cracks me up that Lenalee can just stop Kanda from being all stabby-stabing just bu knocking him gently over with a cardboard in their first appearance. Like I doubt Lavi would have thought about it this way for exemple.

Kanda and Lavi seem more to have this “this is my very annoying co-worker” dynamic, like, you tolerate them but man do they bother you. But they do have some kinship and moments that make you see that ye, they’ve been at it for a few years, they’re probably at least on “good term”. Personally i love how in synch they are in the attack on the order arc. But that sure doesn’t make it “best friend” qualities.

So ye I would mostly blame the anime for what happened, and the fact we kinda want to see the main four getting along and all and that Lavi and Kanda are the only pair who didn’t get any development now that I think about it.

But same I would love to see more Lavi+Krory. Or more Krory in general. They have such a nice ground to build on things there.

Krory never had a lot of focus from fans sadly, even Miranda always was more liked… Which is odd bc following my logic, Krory does appear more in the anime than Miranda ever did. Idk if it’s the vampire stuff, the different personalities he has when he transform, just the fact he’s older ect.. but people seemed to not like him much.Actually now that I remember, the anime fillers made him kinda whiney when out of his innocence? I don’t remember per se but i remember people complaining about that. That might not have helped his case. (sicne whiney was apparently the worst thing a character could be in 2009).

So ye i’m all for the revolution of remembering Krory and Lavi have more of a bound in general. One can hope right?

Take care!