#for context this only really matters bc this is the 2nd time it's happened
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#n talks#if one more fucking person realizes they have a crush on the same person as me I'm going to fucking kshfhsjks#losing it. a little#for context this only really matters bc this is the 2nd time it's happened#and the 1st time I actually got to the point of confessing and being told we could have smth casual#only for them to turn around and date my best friend (& recent ex) in the SAME WEEKEND#so it's a bit touchy#and I've also been thinking about this guy since May or June at LEAST#so I definitely fucking got there first#but also I think all 3 of us are in no place to start a new relationship#my friend's freshly single (like so fresh this was how I found out)#the guy's not *freshly* single but the breakup was messy + the way he talks about it makes it pretty clear he's still working through it#and we're freshly out of an abusive relationship that has the added layer of never having a proper label so we can't even call it a breakup#(without feeling weird at least)#anyway we woke up today to musings of how and when we'd confess#probably just gonna talk to my friend tomorrow bc they said they like kinda just think he's cute (correct opinion)#meanwhile I'm sitting here like ''if things go well I think we have a chance of making it past graduation''#also. this feels selfish but also I fucking deserve to be sometimes#the last time this happened I got the short end of the stick so hard I got abused and traumatized#I think I get first dibs this time
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Did you see the recent scott post (2/22/24) defending polygenic selection of embryos? I personally think his reductios are "missing the point" of the original objection, but I can't quite put my finger on why.
I think examples 1 and 3 are different in a morally significant way from the polygenic selection case.
It is true that the child who would have been born absent the rehab stay or fatherhood lesson almost certainly is not the child who would have been born with the rehab stay or fatherhood lesson, at least if (as scott seems to assume and seems relatively unobjectionable at least in this context) would-be children are individuated by originating sperm-ova pairs (problem case: identical twins). But it is no part of the mothers/fathers plans, nor any part of the doctors/educators plans in putting the future parents thru these regimens, that those particular would be children are swapped. From their pov, if it just so happened the egg-sperm pair that would have conceived their child absent the intervention actually were the pair to conceive their child with the intervention, this is perhaps surprising but not really violating their plans, either in their means or ends. Which of the two relevant pairs (the one that would conceive absent the intervention and the one that would conceive with the intervention, but specified rigidly in terms of particular sperms and ova) in fact conceives is a matter of indifference to them. It is not actively declaring any particular would be humans lebens unwertesleben as compared to another
In the polygenic selection case, things are different. Assuming again would be humans are individuated by sperm/egg pairs, by choosing which embryo (whose conceiving pair is already definitely settled) to keep and which to destroy one is already making a choice about which of two or more (would be) humans is more worthy of life than another. If another egg-sperm pair happened to be the one to actually get implanted, this would involve frustrating the couples plans, which involved choosing some particular egg-and-sperm pair in the already-fused form of a particular embryo. Which pair gets chosen to become their child is expressly not a matter of indifference
Note that this doesnt even in and of itself require you to think the embryo is a person or has "moral standing", only that a) choosing one among different would be human individuals as more worth living than another is wrong and b) that would be humans are individuated by sperm egg pairs, which are already settled by the time an embryo is conceived
I think theres less of a principled distinction between the polygenic selection case and his 2nd example. Tho even there, in selecting among developing embryos on non genetic criteria like development, one seems not to be choosing on the basis of features essential to any would be child, as genetic features (roughly) will be on the theory that would be humans are individuated by originating egg sperm pairs
Eta: "I can never tell how much of this is linguistic hair-splitting versus an actual moral objection to considering this strategy a success, but I think it’s worth arguing against the moral objection." Idk why but someone describing an argument as "linguistic hair splitting" or "word games" vel sim is extremely predictive of missing what seems to me the nub of the matter on any particular topic
Eta2: ig this post runs the danger of ppl interpreting me as saying "merely potential" ppl have "moral standing" in the sense of rights or deserving to be included in the utilitarian calculus. Obviously that is false: only (actual) ppl have rights, and nothing should be included in any utilitarian calculus bc you should not be a utilitarian. The question is of whether lebens unwertesleben is a concept that potentially makes sense, whether there could be ppl unworthy of having been born by dint of their inferior nature. If you dont think so (and you shouldnt), you should oppose eugenic interventions like polygenic embryo selection
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This will be long, so disclaimer if you don't want to read long stuff.
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You protest too much. lagosbratzdoll is saying that:
people have used HotD's rewrite (and it is a rewrite) where Daemon doesn't seem to care about his Black wife as he did in the book to attack others and be racist to fans to either complain about this change and express concerns over the bias or those like lagosbratzdoll, who happen to come across people being racist [their experience]
since the Velaryons of HotD are so obviously Black--counter to the pale skinned, thin-haired canon descriptions of the Velaryons that have existed for years before HotD--every Velaryon who marries into the Targs have been subject to bad faith and racist "critiques", undermined, denied their narrative purpose and value, etc. [the trend]
It happens to Nettles when some Daemyras claim that Nettles "wasn't an important character". Or when they say Jaehaera should have remained alive and be Aegon's queen to birth Daeron I, Daena, Baelor, Elaena, and Rhaena instead of Daenaera Velaryon--some Daemyras and green stans or claimed neutrals even saying that GRRM "changed his mind" and "realized it was unfair to Jaehaera" to kill her off that way. (And to be honest, there is fair critique in making Helaena die so violently in lieu of how GRRM tens to horribly kill off several female characters in the way and frequency that he does it, but I speak to how many just use this as a way to deny Daenaera her importance in the story being written).
And they claim they they aren't wrong to counterclaim that the people saying HotD is being racist--consciously or unconsciously, it's still racism--are being "stupid" or "don't know the original story" because they think that just because Daemyra do end up together and it would have been better if they had just ended up together for one or both of their political sakes that Daemon didn't love Laena or thought her as inferior to Rhaenyra. Or they prefer Daemyra's dynamic and think Laena/Harwin passive interlopers on their ship, which ironically prevents them from really analyzing and understanding the story presented. In other words, they use the canon to prove their points and to justify their racism towards a show that is not even canon-compliant both where it really matters AND where it doesn't.
Do I think that Rhaenrya and Daemon would have preferred to have married each other from the get go? Absolutely. Do I think this makes Laena "second choice". No.
I do love bk!Daemyra & there are parts of show!Daemyra that I like bc they believably show what bk!Daemyra would have been like. However, it must be said that bk!Daemon very much loved bk!Laena AND it was not that she was 2nd choice to Rhaenyra. He made many moves for her and he doesn't tolerate people to be around him and so close to him if he didn't genuinely like or respect him as much as one would think he did anyone.
It was a matter of timing and circumstance that Rhaenyra became his 3rd wife; him, her 2nd husband and it doesn't mean he or she loved their prior partners "less" and I mean Harwin, not Laenor.
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I talked about Laena and Daemon HERE, but now let's talk about them within the context of the show and fandom.
A)
I don't think that Daemon was banished from the entire realm after he did whatever with Rhaenyra. Eustace says that Viserys told them both not to speak of what Eustace says was Daemon seducing and having sex w/Rhaenyra and to leave...but he doesn't specify whether this is a permanent departure or if has a mortal consequence if disobeyed.
I do take part of Eustace's assumptions as true--something happened b/t them and Viserys told Daemon to leave bc of it. It is also the more detailed and believable account given, even if Alicent urged Viserys to banish Daemon. We have the neutral-er GM Runciter (who only-mostly ever gives factual records of the king's declarations) say that Daemon & Viserys fought. Runciter doesn't say Daemon was banished--again, key words are "banished" and "royal declaration". So Runciter corroborates Eustace saying that they fought and Dameon left but banishment, esp from the entire kingdoms, is more up in the air. I think it's unlikely bc that would have caused a greater stir.
But Daemon definitely wasn't banished from wherever (court or kingdom) bc he married Laena either.
Daemon knew that it was possible and that he'd have some sort of punishment bc he married her without Viserys' permission (running theme here), so he decided to leave Westeros ("A Question of Succession"):
He and Laena then took advantage of this by making it into a tour of Essos and really be "free" from all their political restraints for a time. They left for Essos and had the space to become and grow into their own unit.
They go back to Driftmark/High Tide before Daemon takes the time to send Viserys a letter asking for forgiveness and to bless the twins' (thus giving respect/obeisance to Viserys' authority). While this is likely Daemon thinking, again, politically and trying to get back "home", I don't think Daemon wasn't also thinking of his kids' growing up amongst family and to please his wife...something the show completely contradicted ("A Question of Succession"):
It doesn't have to be only about Rhaenyra or the greens. S
And yes, I think that it was inevitable that they'd have to go back, both bc:
a) Laena would wan tto see her own family, which would also put them at proximity to King's Landing and Dragonstone:
b) again the threat of the greens and the greens own eye on Daemon being a threat to them (again why Rhaenys trying to get her grandkids to not join Rhaenyra nonsensical, but a digression). But people can disagree with the idea that Daemon was always conscious and motivated in part (not the whole) by making sure the greens wouldn't be confident in their supremacy at court. 🤷🏽♂️
lagosbratzdoll said this:
Daemon didn't seem to give a fuck that Viserys had banned him from the Seven Kingdoms when he returned to Runestone and then the Eyrie and then Driftmark after his wife died.
Daemon can't be said to have been banned from the entire country after the Rhaenyra incident as I mentioned.
B)
darklinaforever said this:
Viserys banished Daemon under penalty of death after he asked for Rhaenyra's hand if he ever came back... That's why he didn't come back. Additionally, at the time Rhea died, Rhaenyra was already married.
when lagosbratzdoll said this:
After his alleged rejection he did not end his marriage and fly back to King's Landing to beg Viserys for Rhaenyra's hand. No, he went back to the Stepstones and was content to remain there for another year, unhappily married to his "bronze bitch". Then immediately his wife died, instead of heading back to King's Landing to use his wife's death to reconcile with his brother and "first choice", he went to Driftmark. Fell in love at once, asked for Laena's hand from her father and then slew her betrothed.
("A Question of Succession")
And yes, at the time of Rhea's death, Rhaenyra had already been married to Laenor that he would but he couldn't go back for her for that. Espe since one speculative rumor that Eustace reports is that he bedded or did stuff w/Rhaenyra to spoil her for any other prospects. No point to trying to get her then, so as lagosbratzdoll says he went back to the Stepstones.
However, again, he's not banished from the realm, just from the court IF we believe Eustace 100%. There is no mention of a mortal punishment at all, if Daemon were to come back w/o Viserys leave.
And, lagosbratzdoll was correct to say
It is only after they (Daemon, Laena and their daughters) returned to Westeros and after Laena and Rhaenyra grew closer that Daemon and Rhaenyra are reconciled.
Key word here is "reconciled", bc yes Daemon manipulated Rhaenyra and likely did try to ruin her prospects Because, once more, he may not want or be equipped to lead as a politician like a monarch should, but he definitely was still politically interested in his family's legacy and a marriage to Rhaenyra would allow him to stay close to the family, be involved to be at least father the next line of heirs, and have him protect them Rhaenyra and those kids and even Viserys. Plus, I think he wanted to shove it in his brother's face for the long-existing issues between them (Viserys' suspicion despite Daemon raising those soldiers for his claim before the GC of 101; his ordering Mysaria away so she miscarried what would have been Daemon's first kid...after he took one of the eggs for said kid w/o Viserys' leave; Viserys refusing to annul his first marriage which had no political necessity bec Rhaenyra was Aemma Arryn's daughter, etc.). Was Daemon wronged, yes. But this was definitely a wrong he performed against Rhaenyra--she should not have been used as a device or "way in". (Messy Targaryens) No matter what he felt for her at the same time. Even if one doesn't think he groomed her, he definitely used her negligibly and without really taking her feelings into account....ironically just as whoever married him to Rhea Royce did.
And they truly became a "couple" that we know and love (some of us) after Laena dies. After he comes back with Laena and Rhaenyra befriends Laena, they had the time and space to likely discuss what happened between them, esp since Rhaenyra's ruling of Dragonstone (thus her becoming more autonomous and familiar with having authority over most others), her marriage, and her kids (solidification of getting heirs/becoming a parent and responsible for others...similar to him) made it easier for them to come to terms with what occurred b/t them. It made Rhaenyra is on more "even keel" with him, or really has more authority and power.
So after Laena's death, they decide to marry to fully become and manifest as the couple they were and that some of us enjoy.
C)
I think he didn't love-love Laen in the very beginning/from the start or when he laid eyes on Laena like the singers claim. Because singers will almost always give you the highly romanticized version of the truth. for coin, patronage, shelter, and legacy. The last either/both their own or for the house/lord/lady's who they are serving and is sheltering at the time. We first hear of the singers and how they fit into the Westerosi system through Rhaenys the Conqueror, how she uses them to paint pictures of court under the new conquerors, which doesn't mean the Targs were doing untoward stuff. It just means she used them to get people more to see them all in a more positive light and encourage them not to think of them as foreign weirdo tyrants. Which they're weren't and proved to be through:
her & Visenya arranging noble marriages, taking on noble scions as their cupbearers or ladies-in-waiting
Aegon going on progresses and adjudcating between lords in their conflicts before it can come to blows/arms
long enough and many enough times without people making a fuss or records of complaints filing down in popular history that we can see that very few lords and ladies were actually "oppressed" or had anything serious or true to accuse the Conquerors of. (Dorne doesn't count bc they were never a part of the first condition of kingdoms thus Aegon never went there to meet with lords to judge their cases and issues and conflicts as if he were their lord).
When I think of "love-love", as I say about what sort of "love" the singers are talking about, I mean the kind of "love" that makes you want to really know someone and be close to them before you really know them--an important part of emotional attraction, thus love, but this is a digression. Necessary, but a digression, still. We'd have to go into what types of "falling in love" or just "love" people talk about when they say "I loved you even in the first moments we had together", and that's a discussion for another time entirely. Something literature has been bounding about for centuries.
Also, I think that it's not enough for us to say that because he killed someone he must have fallen "in love" w/Laena and then say he "risked" his reputation. Daemon canonically doesn't really give a damn about his reputation for its own sake. And the Sealord's son was not as important as you think bc the Sealord died way before Daemon even dueled the son ("A Question of Succession"):
He had no solid backing anymore. He was a courtesy guest by the time Daemon rolled up. The outrage that could have erupted if Daemon just killed him, duel or not, would be more towards the son's youth and Daemon riling him up--being "unfair"--which again why would Daemon be intimidated by that? And he had little to no real problems killing him ("A Question of Succession"):
So yes, he dueled to get Laena, but it wasn't really a as much of a bother or a risk for him.
BUT
None of this precludes Daemon being drawn to Laena and ardently wanting to marry her because he was attracted to her. Because he thought she'd make an excellent partner. Or that Laena wasn't involved and wanted him to get rid of her "problem" or that she didn't reciprocate. I haven't seen the contrary, suggestive or clear.
And at the same time, killing Rhea vs killing the Sealord's son is a different matter altogether. I think he'd definitely kill Rhea Royce if he could get away with it, esp with the new motive to marry Rhaenyra if you want to take it there. But, bc:
Rhea's house was a house sworn as a vassal to the Arryns (Aemma's house, so not only bad politically but also Viserys would take it even more personally...likely)
her marriage to Daemon was royally arranged (likely by Alysanne)
and Daemon had already been trying to get the marriage annulled for years and Viserys refused
And why would Daemon want to get away with it if he actually didn't care about his people declaring him so evil if he had killed Rhea? Because it would also still risk Viserys react by full out banning him from coming to court, maybe the realm. Which is counterintuitive to any possible plan on getting Rhaenyra.
Plus the Sealord's son was killed in Corlys'/the Velaryon's domains under circumstances Corlys created. Daemon has much more plausible deniability or protections here.
D)
I do believe that bk!Daemon was drawn to bk!Laena more for more than just her looks (which fit the criteria of his visual preferences) in the beginning and came to be deeply in love with her, something I amend from my recent 2 posts about physical vs emotional attraction. She was 22 when he arrived at Driftmark and she bonded w/Vhagar at 12--the oldest, biggest, and most war-experienced dragon that existed then--which absolutely would have impressed the Targ/Valyria-legacy-obsessed Daemon. It also ties Visenya to his him, narratively as we know he also has Visenya's sword. Visenya, who like him was first and foremost, for the continuation of the Targ dynasty and political power, even as they both chafed at its traditional/historical joinedness with the the Andal Faith culture. Laena herself was reportedly a pleasure to just watch and interact with, and as bold as Daemon seems to like his partners.
Laena comes from a family who--for all intents, history of going to marry her to a late-twenty yr old man (Viserys), and had Laenor marry Rhaenyra--seems to be more able to practice the freedoms that the crown doesn't the Targs while still (through Rhaenys) enjoy the presence and political/psychological effects of dragonriding. We already know through Rhaena [Dreamfyre's rider] that Valyrian-descent people can become much more self confident after bonding w/a dragon. Rhaenys, we know, was a very proud woman and I doubt she and the sea-proud/explorative/ambitious Sea Snake Corlys would have not imparted some values and ideas to their kids that developed both of their boldness. For 12 years, even w/o a dragon, she had nothing to feel inferior about her Velaryon sea-bound heritage. At least not horribly enough to say she developed any sort of inferiority complex or felt terribly inferior to Laenor or Rhaenys before she bonded w/Vhagar at 12.
Rhaenys claimed Meleys when she was 13, so she was not a"cradle-bonding-baby" either, IF we argue that Laenor was (we have no undebatable evidence of Laenor being this or having claimed Seasmoke as a baby/egg). In a way, Laena had enjoyed more freedoms than Rhaenyra, too, as she got to be "alone" for 22 years while Rhaenyra had to marry at 17 to someone who'd never be attracted to her, much less romantically love her. AND she escaped an unworthy marriage to some Sealord's son who couldn't manage money fand didn't control himself.
Again, she escaped another bad marriage others arranged for her, this time through Daemon. And this would have been discussed b/t them, I think, very soon either before or after Daemon talked with Corlys. Maybe at the same time (wouldn't have that been so nice to see in the show?!) Because it was a way for her to marry someone she wanted.
So Laena had a different relationship to herself and dragons by the time she and Daemon "hung out". Is it really any wonder that many prefer shipping Daemon with her over Daemyra?
It would have been a different dynamic, but not without love or true care.
At the same time, I think in the beginning that Daemon thought getting close to her and the rest of the family who already have his cousin, Rhaenys, around would better tie the Velaryons to the Targaryens/Rhaenyra & Viserys against the greens/Otto. Even as Viserys banished him--for nothing else, that legacy-keeping.
E)
While show!Daemon doesn't take that long to sleep w/Rhaenyra (a few weeks at most) after Laena's death and Laenor's deaths.
First, Laena, Laenor , and Harwin ALL die in the same year--120, the "Year of the Red Spring". Laena dies in the very first few days; Aegon the younger/Aegon III is born in the very last few days of the same year.
Second, Laenor dies not very long after Laena does ("A Question of Succession"):
AND the text says that it was not "half a year" (5-6 months) since BOTH Laena and Laenor died that Daemyra marries ("A Question of Succession"):
I talk about the timing of Aegon's birth HERE, and how it makes me think that, for once, Mushroom's testimony about their marriage is not totally incorrect. Yes, Aegon was conceived before Daemyra married.
It takes 8-9 months to have a healthy, safe infant (taking into consideration how these people have no medical tech like our own. Even after labors of full-term, women died a lot more frequently in their labors, esp in this House), Aegon seems to have been conceived at most, 2-3 or so months earlier than when they got married. Which also means that Rhaenyra and Daemon began sleeping with each other not long at all after Laena's death--depending on your measurement and definition of "long" here.
Still, unlike HotD that makes it literally maybe a few weeks after she dies, the book gives us at least some grace-time of 4-5 months before the earliest possible day they began having sex after Laena's death. I don't think this was the reason or the primary reason for them to want to marry each other--I think it was the catalyst--but this doesn't preclude Daemon having loved Laena.
Daemyras are so violently racist towards Baela, Rhaena and Laena, it baffles me. Sometimes, I’ll be having a good time on the internet or reading a fic, and then I’ll stumble upon something profoundly racist. The racism I've seen is actually turning me off the ship and the characters.
Laena was not Daemon's second choice. He loved her. They were happy, and they had three wonderful children together. They toured Essos together, and he flew to Dragonstone to get Rhaenyra's maester to try to save her life. He loved her deeply, and he mourned her when she passed.
You can love more than one person, and admitting that Daemon loved Laena will not kill you or take away his love for Rhaenyra. Admitting that Baela and Daemon are practically twins will not kill you, it does not take away from the love that he had for Rhaena, Aegon, Viserys and Rhaenyra’s boys. Love is infinite, it can be shared.
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Congrats on nearing the end of your school term 🎉 I still got a couple more weeks to go myself, haha… :')
May I request Thatch with a fem. s/o?
S/o overheard Blackbeard's plan to kill Thatch and tried to warn him about it, but Thatch just waved it off as her being paranoid, overly stressed or had a nightmare. Which is understandable given that he known Teach longer than he had known her. So s/o decided to play along with that she was just overthinking, and instead opt to keep an eye out on Teach. The night of the supposed incident, Thatch had his back turned to the approaching attack, unaware, until s/o leapt out from the shadows and took the hit for him. Thatch turned around just in time to see s/o fall to the ground, and standing not too far away was Teach, holding a bloodied blade. Having lost the much needed element of surprise, Teach stood with a growing look of nervousness.
What's Thatch going to do in this scenario? …with your knowledge that Teach is absolutely going to lose, and the plot won't head down the way it's supposed to. *cough* Marineford *cough*
Also, is it alright if I request for two alternate endings: one where s/o dies, and another where s/o barely made it through after a few days spent in critical condition and comatose?
♡ Summary- fem! s/o tries her best to stop the assassination of Thatch however she finds it doesn’t go how she plans
♡ Character- Thatch
♡ Warnings- angst, major character death, blood
♡ Damn, you really choose angst. Are you ok?? 😭 but hear me out of Thatch never dies then marineford never happens and that makes me happy :)) so I can so get behind this. Also this is longer than I thought but I hope you enjoy it 💕
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- you knew about the whole thing, the devil fruit they found, the plan that Teach had and just what he would do to get it. You knew about it all. And it scared you. It scared you so much. The fact that Teach’s greed is so strong that he would kill his crew mate, his family
- for a while you just kept it to yourself, although you heard about it you didn’t know much about it or the context behind it. And you didn’t want to jump to conclusions, so for a while you just kept it to yourself until you had solid proof. But that didn’t seem to work.
- as time went on, nightmares slowly began to appear. And they didn’t stop. It was almost every night you would wake up in cold sweat, gasping for air and at the verge of tears. You couldn’t even be in the same room as Teach you always had to leave. It’s just gotten to the point where you had to tell someone, anyone. So you thought it would be best to go to the one whose in the biggest danger: Thatch.
- you and Thatch have been dating for a while now, so thought that when you had told him what your over heard that he would take your word for you. You haven’t done anything to lose his trust the only part you really had to worry about was the fact that he had known Teach longer but you went to tell him anyways only to have you immediately shoo away the thought.
- you didn’t even get to explain yourself at all before Thatch had shot you down. He didn’t even take the time to listen to you anymore. When you tried to get him to at least listen, he just continued to push you away claiming you were paranoid, not sleeping well and that you just didn’t like Teach.
- At least you had you answer now: if you can’t tell your boyfriend then there’s no way you can tell anyone else and you figured that was gonna be the case. You were new to the crew so of course everyone was gonna take Teach’s side. He was there the longest. But now that you have your answer, it was up to you to protect Thatch and anyone else.
- of course you couldn’t do anything until you learned more about it, so you spent a few nights spying around trying to figure out what exactly Teach was planning. It took a while but luckily he had a big mouth and you were able to figure out when it would happen. And so you made sure to prepare.
- now during this whole thing, both you and Thatch had began to distance yourself from each other. And y’all had your reasons. You really weren’t to upset that he had called you paranoid or anything you just need time to prepare and collect your thought. but Thatch on the other hand was upset that you would accuse him family of something like that. So although the was still mad gonna take a few days and calm down before he confronted you.
- but when he decided too, it was already to late. On the night Teach was gonna attack and you ready. Thatch on the other hand was ready to confront you and ask you about your suspicion, but when he was making your way to your fav room on the ship, Teach was quick to spring into action. Attacking Thatch in one quick movement. However, you were quicker.
- you meant to just block his attack with one of your own, however with the weird way he was swinging it was hard to counter it. So instead of clashing swords, you ended up taking the stab right into your chest. Thatch finally learn that you were right, and as soon as he heard you fall to the floor his world had shattered. He didn’t even pay any mind to Teach, who stood there panicked and frustrated, Thatch just needed to make sure you were ok first.
1st ending- s/o dies
- the guilt had already began to consume Thatch as he saw you lay on the floor soaked in your own blood and barely breathing. He just felt empty. His love of his life was just laying on the floor
- Thatch just feel speechless. He couldn’t muster a word or even a grunt. The only thing he could do was fall to the ground and crawl over to you. His emotions were a mess, he wanted to scream and cry yet her couldn’t. He was to shocked to do anything. The only thing he could do instead of looking at his lover is look at the guilty: Blackbeard
- his whole world has crashing down around him as he placed his hand on his lovers slowing heartbeat. He couldn’t do anything, he couldn’t cry, scream or even react. You were dying and all because of Thatch’s stubbornness. The only time that he was able to react was when you reached your bloody hand up to his cheek, grabbing his attention, and giving a weak smile as if to say, ‘at least your safe’
- that’s when his ear piercing scream echoed through the ship. Now grabbing everyone’s attention but none of that matter. He didn’t care if the next island heard him, none of that matter anymore now that your dead. His lover was dead due to his stubbornness.
- after the others had come to get you and Thatch and arrest Blackbeard, Thatch can’t remember what happened much after that and it didn’t matter. With you gone everything was so different. Nothing felt the same anymore.
- it didn’t take long of Thatch to fall into a deep depression. He did just watch his lover die right in front of him and the one who killed her was someone he called family. It was all his fault and there’s no changing that. If he had just listen to you none of thing would’ve happen.
2nd Ending- s/o survives but is badly injured
- once you were stabbed it was a good thing you landed with a heavy impact bc that sound was able to alert some of the others that were up and near y’all at the time. Thatch on the other hand just froze, as soon as you crashed to the floor he followed in suit frozen. Luckily the others were quick to see what happen and quick to jump into action when they saw your body covered in blood.
- Marco the first to be informed about any of this, so he could began treating you right away. They all carried you to the med bay and began to do all they could to save you. And while they were doing all this Thatch just ended up following like a mindless robot. He was still in shock with it all. He was fully aware what was going on his mind just didn’t process.
- it wasn’t until Marco had approach him did Thatch had finally processed it all and within a span of 5 seconds he was on the floor crying, screaming, cursing at himself. He was blind, way to blind. He couldn’t even see that you were trying to save him. And all bc of that you were forced into a coma nobody knows when you’ll wake up from
- at least you were still alive and Blackbeard was captured. Although Thatch still hate how he can’t see your smile or hear your laugh or feel your warmth close to him, at least you were alive. And with the Thatch was with you every second of the day, not even looking away from you.
- As if to make up for his blindness, Thatch is there to take care of you when your unconscious. Although Thatch really hated this, he was happy that you ha saved him even when he pushed you away you cotuined to protect him. It just proves how lucky he is to have you and to show how much he appreciates you, he’ll sit here and say till you wake up. No matter how long it would take. At that Thatch has to do it wait, wait till he gets to see your smile and feel your love again.
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Sen Çal Kapımı Fragman 35 Asks
Speculation and Spoiler asks about the 2nd fragman under the cut. (also a few ep 34 asks as well)
Anonymous said: Thoughts on the new fragman for epi 35?
[Sing-song voice] Serkan said he loves her! Serkan said he loves her! Serkan said he loves her!
The reign of Deniz and Selin terrorizing them is OOOOOOVER! The reign of Deniz and Selin terrorizing them is OOOOOOVER! The reign of Deniz and Selin terrorizing them is OOOOOOVER!
Serkan said he loves her! Serkan said he loves her! Serkan said he loves her! [END Sing-song voice]
Anonymous said: Liza.. That. Fragman!!!!! Whew I had a good feeling the memory loss plot was coming to a close after the 1st fragman revealed they were so close to the wedding day and a new character was announced.. not even mad they spoiled it bc tbh, I needed SOME kinda hope. Based on different translations I'm not sure if the wedding was real yet or not.. and I was wondering what would be the new "thing" for drama in the story.. but edser are back! if it is real, I have hope they're gonna face it together.
EDSER IS BACK! What do we always say? Fragmans are misleading. And they really chopped up that scene, lots of cuts. So my gut is saying that they want us to think Deniz and Eda marriage is actually legal, but I don’t think that it is. I think it’s a misdirect.
Because what does Eda and Deniz being married do? Eda will get the Turkish equivalent of an annulment and it’s over. If Deniz did something to trick Eda into a real marriage when she thought it was fake, that will only make her hate him so it’s not like he gets anything out of it. It’s time for this story with Deniz and Selin to be over, so after 6 straight episodes of them having the upper hand over Eda and Serkan, why would the show hand them one last win right as our protagonists are about to triumph over their lies and manipulations?
I saw one translations where the registrar said something like, “awhile ago these two signed a real marriage contract.” If that’s true, who are these two? Did Deniz trick Eda into signing a marriage contract awhile ago? Or does this have something to do with Serkan and Eda’s original marriage contract? I have no idea.
Sadly, With the information we currently have, I assume that is the last scene of the episode and will be a cliffhanger so we may have to live with this question for 10 days, not 3. Hopefully, we’ll have more context after the ep, though.
Anonymous said: Fragman 2 came out I’m so excited!! But idk something is telling me not to get too excited? What if serkan is pretending to remember just to stop the wedding because he fell in love with her again?
I guess my question to you would be, what does it matter? Whether Serkan stopped the wedding because he remembered, or he stopped the wedding because he fell in love with her all over again and said that he remembered because it seemed like the easiest way to make sure she didn’t marry another man, in my mind it’s still all good. He still said I love you, stopped the wedding and is hugging her. I’d say that is plenty to be excited about!!!
Anonymous said: Or shoot do you think the wedding/remembering might just be eda or serkan’s dream? :(
Oh boy, possibly, but I’m so tired of the speculation that the pivotal moment in every fragman is a dream. I know that the proposal in 25 being a dream eFFed us up, but honestly, it’s no fun to theorize or speculate when you assume everything is not really happening. If it is, so be it, but I’m not gonna spend a ton of energy on that theory.
Anonymous said: The more I think about it, the more I’m convinced that the wedding and remembering is serkans dream. The whole point of eda doing a fake wedding is to provoke serkan right? So if he wasn’t even there (he ran in late) why would she be acting it out, about to say yes? And would the writers really spoil the reunion in the fragman?
Okay, I guess I will spend some energy on it. Good point about her going to the point of fake saying yes when he wasn’t there, but in the fragman she says she’ll do anything to get him back. Maybe she was hoping he would come busting in and as long as its fake, does it matter? Here’s my thing, would the production actually spend a full day shooting with the ENTIRE cast at that wedding location for a dream? Seems like a pretty big expense for a dream. Also they showed a bunch of reactions. Engin, Piril, Leyla, Erdem, and Selin’s. Would a dream go into that level of detail? Complete with Engin being exuberant and Piril looking like she sucked on a lemon? Would Serkan dream about that and having a bruise on his face? Maybe, it would certainly clear away all the problems this scene potentially creates, but it’s not the most plausible scenario to me.
Anonymous said: Maybe the confession is serkans dream, which makes him realize that even though he doesn’t remember, he still loves her so that provokes him to stop the wedding for real, and then the running/car scenes are real and the ep ends with him walking in on the wedding? Bc during the running/car scenes and when it looks like it first walks into the wedding he has a brown jacket but during the confession he doesn’t
Okay... I guess this theory is super popular. Obviously could be. However, check out the reaction shot of Engin at the wedding again, he’s holding Serkan’s coat. So a lot happens (obviously) that we didn’t see. I guess somehow Serkan comes down the stairs and takes off his coat and hands it to Engin?
Anonymous said: I wonder why eda has a different wedding dress in each fragman?
Maybe Eda was just trying on dresses when he came in and perhaps there were several? Or maybe she decides not to wear the dress that caused Serkan to look at her like she was the stars and moon combined and say she was beautiful, to fake marry another man?
Episode 34 asks:
Anonymous said: In 34 when Selin takes the pictures to Deniz and they have their argument, did you notice that when Deniz angrily throws the photos/envelope onto the table, one (or two, I can’t remember) photos falls out unnoticed onto the floor? And when Selin takes the envelope back, presumably to dispose of the photos, she doesn’t pick up the one on the floor. Do you think this is significant at all?
I’ve seen this theory, but then I also saw someone point out that when Selin looks at the photos later they are both there. I think that might just be a continuity issue. However, we shall see. Someone has the copies and is texting them to Selin, so it’s not like there’s a shortage of ways for the show to get other eyes on the photos.
Anonymous said: I agree with you that Eda slapping Serkan after the kiss was a little harsh. When I read the summary for the ep I was expecting him to say something mean, but what he actually said was the best case scenario. Him taking that big of a step in actively WANTING to remember her, especially after the way Ceren worded what she said to him about Eda, was a big deal! And I was like girl, did you not do this exact same thing to him in ep 29 in an effort to make him remember as well? 😂
I agree that his reaction was the best case scenario. She did do that exact same thing. And his reaction was to dazedly wander off and propose to another woman to try and stave off the feels and confusion her kiss wrought. All in all I prefer the slap.
Personally, I think it was a huge thing that he wanted to kiss her, especially after Ceren’s unbalanced Eda-hate soliloquy at his loft. He didn’t seem to care about Eda being manipulative or selfish, he just seemed jazzed because if true it would mean that she hadn’t been able to move on from their love.
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re: the 20-page interview with fujimoto yukari and yoshida akimi
it covers a wide range of topics including her other works which i’m not familiar with and a bit of her personal life, so I’ll only jot down some bf related parts. note that this isn’t a proper translation… consider it a rough one with lots of paraphrasing, interspersed with my own thoughts.
- we begin with the most pressing question: why did ash die? lol
- yoshida mentioned that she had made up her mind for him to die from the very beginning itself. she did get conflicted about going through with it as the series was approaching its end, but the reason for that was river phoenix’s death. she was worried it would be in poor taste.
- fujimoto: how would the ending where he’s alive be like?
yoshida: well nothing much, he’s just not dead (laugh).
fujimoto: so nothing in particular will happen with eiji and they’ll remain separated…
yoshida: yes, that’s how it would be. but in the end i felt like what i decided at first would hit the mark just right.
- (note: this sounds like the 2nd last chapter to me...)
- yoshida started out with the concept of ash dying young bc she thought it would be sort of cool. an average person would live up to about 70 yrs while ash only lives up to 19. but in reality, dying young is p cruel so she wondered if it might a bit not good. but in the end, ash is still a killer. he spilled the blood of others to survive, so no matter what the reasons were, he would have had to settle that debt with his own life. so eventually that’s how she decided to conclude it. she also felt like he wouldn’t have had a long life anyway.
- fujimoto: did news of river phoenix’s death shock you?
yoshida: it sure did! (laugh). it felt sort of like,“why did you have to die now?”
fujimoto: and the fact that it was because of a drug overdose… it must have felt like too much of a coincidence.
yoshida: that’s true. […]
fujimoto: but there are many ways of dying, did you originally plan for him to die that way too?
yoshida: yeah it was pretty much like that. like in “ashita no joe” (laugh).
fujimoto: feels like “the fight’s finally over”.
yoshida: well it’s not exactly like that, but i did plan to have him die in a way that looked like it was for nothing.
- fujimoto then brought up yoshida’s older work, “california monogatari” where a character dies in a similar fashion. she said that there are many great deaths in shounen works, but the protag or deuteragonist always end up dying pointlessly. she asked yoshida why she thinks the reason for that is? yoshida said that in her case, “midnight cowboy” had been a very impactful movie. it’s the reason why she started drawing manga too. there’s a shocking death scene in there and she wondered if maybe she’s heavily influenced by that “imprinting”?
- fujimoto asked whether the shock came from seeing a character die such a death, and yoshida said that’s not it, it’s more of an overall thing. the idea that you’ll die if your partner isn’t there with you. it’s that sort of connection between two souls that’s on the brink of something. it’s not just a physical death, but a spiritual one, or a death of one’s self, or a “total” death when you’re connected to someone a certain way, which is what the movie is about.
- yoshida mentioned that a friend she went to see the movie with just casually went “what a dark movie” so she doesn’t know why she experienced such a huge shock either.
- (note: i know nothing about that movie so maybe i’m getting some wording wrong here >< but it’s definitely a vital piece of context as to why she writes things the way she does lol)
- fujimoto mentioned that some creators find that it takes a lot of strength to kill off characters even if it’s all fictional. she asked how yoshida personally feels about it. yoshida said that she’s not really bothered by it. esp for ash, if it weren’t for river phoenix’s death she wouldn’t have thought much of it. to her, dying young is not necessarily a sorrowful thing. whether a person was happy or lived a good life isn’t measured by how long they lived.
fujimoto: that’s true. but i think it’s hard to say that ash’s life had been “happy”. but, he died while reading eiji’s letter so maybe to ash, that was enough.
yoshida: that’s why i thought, isn’t it the happiest way for him to die? i mean, it is because he died that he gets to have eiji for eternity. eiji will never be able to forget him. it does feel kind of unfair (laugh).
- fujimoto asked if writing the story became more difficult considering that many world affairs have changed during the course of the series. yoshida said that it was. from the start, it’s been about the cold war between the east and west, so it never had much of a sense of realism to begin with. but after the soviet union dissolved, it got even less realistic and harder to write.
- (note: i think by “realistic” she meant like… it didn’t really feel close to home for jp readers?)
- fujimoto went on to ask how yoshida came up with the setting of “banana fish” as a drug that takes control over a person’s sense of self. yoshida explained that it so happened that she had an interest in drug-related stuff in her school years. read lots of books and stuff on the topic, also stories about the cia wanting to achieve mind control, us-russia competition, etc. she found that stuff fascinating.
- fujimoto: by the way, i heard that in the beginning, it was planned for eiji to be a girl.
yoshida: that’s right. i think it would have been fine if he had been a girl, but for me… i actually dislike the kind of girls who immediately go all kyaa! during action scenes, or to get in the male protagonist’s way and yet end up in a romantic relationship with him (laugh). it’s irritating, and a total nuisance. that’s why i didn’t really want to have female characters. better make it a guy then, i thought.
- (note: DOESN’T EIJI DO ALL OF THOSE THINGS THO??? LMAO IM WHEEZING also this makes eiji a trans guy in spirit i don’t make the rules :x)
- fujimoto: you also explored this sort of relationship between men in “california monogatari” in the form of heath and yves (sp?). yves had sexual feelings, but heath didn’t. it felt like ash and eiji were walking quite a fine line there too (laugh) but was it your intention to portray it that way?
yoshida: well, somewhat. eiji being a girl would’ve been fine by me, but if that were the case, the drama would get really predictable, wouldn’t it? if it becomes romantic, that would be it.
after all, there are just different emotions involved in relationships between guys or between girls. of course, if they were lesbians or homosexuals it would be the same as a romantic relationship between a man and a woman, but how is it like to be connected by feelings that are not like that? to me, that’s an enduring theme to explore, after watching midnight cowboy.
fujimoto: so, you wanted to explore connections that aren’t sexual in nature?
yoshida: well, sexuality is definitely still a part of it. more like, what is a connection between souls like?
fujimoto: in other words, for you, a soul contains sexual elements.
yoshida: that’s right.
fujimoto: so you meant something different from the idea of the soul and the body being separate.
yoshida: that’s different. it’s all lumped together, you see. i’m not adept enough to explore that.
- (note: honestly this part kinda stumped me. i’m confused bc on one hand it sounded like she chose to make this between 2 guys bc she sees that the feelings involved are different from a typical gay relationship (bc of the implication that romantic relationships are all similar regardless of gender). but at the same time she’s also saying that sexuality is still a part of ~the soul~ and she wants to explore this connection between souls… so…………?????? is she saying that the connection itself isn’t sexual even if the soul has those elements? damn i wish i had a better grasp on the language @_@)
- mention of yoshida being a tomboy as a kid and that she often went into the hills and stuff where there were pit vipers. apparently she had a cousin living with her at that time, a frail little city boy. fujimoto made a comparison that yoshida was like ash and her cousin like eiji. yoshida's like, yeah exactly! she found him extremely irritating bc he kept following her around and getting in the way. but if she didn’t look after him, she’d get scolded by her parents lol
- yoshida: eiji has the tendency to be indecisive and masochistic, but eventually when that reaches a breaking point he’ll tear everything down to shreds. he’s the kind of character who gets surprisingly bold when that happens.
ash is the type of character who is like a tough, solid tree when facing a storm. he would go head-on against it. but eiji’s more like a willow (laugh), all soft and limp like grass. but in the end the one that can outlast the storm is the willow, while the tree gets knocked away. that’s why between the two of them, i get the feeling that eiji is the stronger one… or at least the one who’s bolder.
#banana fish#banana fish liveblogging#banana fish spoilers#peko tls#long post //#someone will prly come up with a better and more complete t/l soon lol i just found out the pages have been uploaded recently
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1-100 do all those questions u posted a long time ago
1. Is a kiss considered cheating? i think it depends? context is everything2. Have you ever faked orgasm? ,,, yes3. If you could have one superpower, what would it be? invisibility maybe? idk maybe mind reading would be cool4. Do you think you are going to be rich in 7-8-9 years? probably not? i mean hopefully but idk where i will be or what i will be doing5. Tell us some funny drunk story. i have never been drunk yikes6. Why are you no longer together with your ex? just reasons? things weren’t working out7. If you had to choose one way to die, what would it be? SHARK ATTACK8. What are your current goals? idk??? i have a lot but also i don’t really have any9. Do you like someone? u silly10. Who was the last person to disappoint you? myself what’s good :-)11. Do you like your body? very rarely ??? i am v large in many senses and it makes me really self conscious 12. Can you keep a diet? no13. If the whole world listened to you right now, what would you say? probably “uhhhhhhh” bc i’m so indecisive and couldn’t think of one thing14. Do you work? i babysit and watch dogs but i don’t have like, a formal job15. If you could choose only one food to eat to the rest of your life, what would it be? pizza16. Would you get a tattoo? yes there are a few that i want17. Something you don’t mind spending all your money on? tbh most of mine goes to food and gas18. Can you drive? yes i got my license as soon as i possibly could19. When was the last time someone told you you were beautiful? u tell me all the time babe !!20. What was the last thing you cried for? idk i cry multiple times a day over stupid shit probably bc i was just overwhelmed or sad21. Do you keep a journal? i own lots of journals and i would love to keep one but i’m too inconsistent22. Is life fun? life is what u make of it my dude23. Is farting in front of people irrelevant? yes? everybody does it like ???? wtf24. What’s your dream car? a range rover would be nice, but i also want a big jeep wrangler25. Are grades in school important? idk i mean i have a 5.0 gpa so yes??? but also in the grand scheme of things no26. Describe your crush. brown eyes, curly hair, the most STUNNING smile i have ever seen, cute dimples, u27. What was the last book/movie that really impressed you? i don’t really remember? i haven’t been interested in a book or movie for a long time rip28. What was your last lie? uhhh last night i told myself i was going to get up and write a speech this morning 29. Dumbest lie you ever told? idk?? i’m not a great liar so nothing too bad30. Is crying in front of people embarrassing? yes but it happens so frequently that i don’t really care anymore31. Something you did and you are proud of? worked my butt off for four years & i’m graduating 2nd in my class32. What’s your favourite cocktail? nothing33. Something you are good at? school34. Do you like small kids? yes my 2 yr old twin cousins are my favorite thing35. How are you feeling right now? tired and overwhelmed. i think frazzled is appropriate 36. What would you name your daughter/son? florence!!!! i lov that name37. What do you need to be happy? minimal stress. u don’t hurt either :’)38. Is there some you want to punch in the face right now? no i’m not a violent person tbh39. What was the last gift you received? a gift from my kindergarten teacher for graduation40. What was the last gift you gave? i bought the new urban decay palette for my mom today for mother’s day41. What was the last concert you went to? julien baker in pittsburgh42. Favourite place to shop at? like for clothes?? i get a lot of them at tj maxx or marshall’s or target or even charlotte russe43. Who inspires you? my mom, my english teacher, u44. How old were you when you first got drunk? ?????45. How old were you when you first got high? also ???????46. How old were you when you first had sex? 1647. When was your first kiss? 13 maybe ?? it was this boy in my neighborhood bc i was starting to get real feelings for girls and i thought if i kissed him it would fix it. clearly that didn’t work48. Something you want to do until the end of this year? date u :)49. Is there something in the past you wish you hadn’t done? i wish i wouldn’t have wasted so much time & energy on ppl that didn’t matter50. Post a selfie. idk how to do that in this on the app ??? i guess i could actually post one after this51. Who are you most comfortable around? u52. Name one thing that terrifies you. not being in control of my life, bugs living inside of me, moving water, disappointing the people i love, not meaning anything to people, idk i’m really scared of a lot of things53. What kind of books do you read? memoirs & biographies & nonfiction in general54. What would you tell your 12 year old self? tell your mom how you’re feeling, get into therapy now and maybe things will be easier down the road55. What is your favourite flower? i really like sunflowers and peonies 56. Any bad habits you have? so many, i gnaw my fingers until they bleed it’s pretty bad 57. What kind of people are you attracted to? people named hannah :)58. What was the last thing you cried for? didn’t i already answer this idk it was probably because i was stressed59. Is there something you don’t eat? Some food that truly disgust you? no i’m usually really open to trying foods 60. Are you in love? yes wow61. Something you find romantic? when u rub ur thumb on my face, it’s v small but makes me feel v happy and safe62. How long was your longest relationship? how long have we been dating idk63. What are 3 things that irritate you about the same sex? high school girls in particular are v caught up in irrelevant things and like to start useless drama64. What are 3 things that irritate you about the opposite sex? literally everything men just annoy me in general65. What are you saving money for? traveling to london this summer!!66. How would you describe your bad side? i’m very particular and controlling and obsessive and perpetually stressed67. Are you actually a good person? Why? i like to think so68. What are you living for? lots of things69. Have you ever done anything illegal? i mean i’ve probably run a red light once or twice, i’m not a very risky person70. Do you like your body? didn’t i already answer this too?71. Have you ever made someone feel bad about themselves intentionally? never, i think that’s a pretty shitty thing to do72. Ever sent nudes? yes73. Have you ever cheated on someone? no74. Favourite candy? sour patch kids 75. Is there a blog you visit every day, or almost every day? Tag it!@tyegerlily :)76. Do you play any computer games? What is your favourite game? no i don’t really play games77. Favourite TV series? the office78. Are you religious? Does God exist? no, yes79. What was the last book you read? Did it impress you and why? uhhhh probably the color purple for my junior AP english assignment, i really liked it yes80. What do you think about vegetarianism/veganism? i wish that it was more feasible for me but i just can’t pull it off currently81. How long have you been on Tumblr? only a few months w this blog but like 5 years in total82. Do you like Chineese food? yes83. McDonalds or Subway? subway84. Vodka or whiskey? neither85. Alcohol or drugs? neither86. Ever been out of your province/state/country? i’ve been out of the state, and i’m going out of the country for the first time this summer87. Meaning behind your blog name? it’s something that u call me :’)88. What are you scared of? i already answered this too wtf89. Last time you were insulted? idk honestly90. Most traumatic experience ? my grandma’s death rlly fucked me up, also my experiences w aforementioned first kiss boy91. Perfect date idea? spending time with u!!!!!92. Favourite app on your phone? sandbox it’s a coloring app and it’s v relaxing93. What colour are the walls in your room? ugly brown wood paneling94. Do you watch Youtube? Who is your favourite youtuber? yeah but most of the time it’s just ted talks or vine compilations95. Share your favourite quote. “we all impact the world around us every day. we have to decide what kind of difference we want to make.” or something like that from jane goodall96. What is the meaning of life? i think it’s to make each other’s lives a bit easier97. Do you like horror movies? no they give me panic attacks98. Have you ever made your mum cry? What happened? idk she cried when i came out to her and sometimes she cries if i tell her that my mental health isn’t great99. Do you feel lucky or special in a way? yeah i think i’m a pretty lucky person100. Can you keep a secret? yes
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5000 Question Survey Pt. 8
701. What is your favorite mixed drink? i like sex on the beach a lot but i honestly like a lot of mixed drinks 702. When answering these questions are you often pulled in different directions, as if committing to one answer eliminates the possibility for all others? nahh, i try not to put too much thought into my decisions lol 703. Chicken Mesala, Pasta Primavera, Veal Cutlet Parmesan or Linguini with Clam Sauce? i don’t know what any of these are. i guess pasta primavetra 704. If you were alone in your friend’s house/room/apartment would you look in their drawers and notebooks? i’d probably just watch tv
705. What would you really like to do but you don’t because you are afraid of getting caught? gamble??? lol idk
706. Of the following, which word best describes you: responsible: this one i guess spontaneous: tactful: uninhbited: 707. Which band would you most likely check out? The Smiths (indi-pop 80’s-90’s) probably this one The Lords of Acid (acid/house/dance 90’s) Front 242 (80’s-90’s industrial/dance) 708. How can one put an end to procrastination, as a bad habit? commit to everything that you ever need to get done 709. What feature would you want on your car that is not currently offered? well, i don’t have a car but if i did i would want bluetooth so i can always listen to my own music 710. What kind of poetry speaks to you? i don’t like poetry 711. What is your favorite store that is open 24 hours? uh... walmart? i guess 712. Do you find that sleep is just so much sleepier when you are supposed to be doing something else? absolutely 713. Do you also find that the books you chose are so much more luscious when you have a stack of actual assignments that you Should be reading? lol i mean kind of? 714. If you have had the chance to compare the original 5000 Question Survey to this edited version, what is your opinion? i haven’t done the originial so i have no idea honestly 715. What’s the most creative answer you can think of for ‘what is black and white and red all over’? a sunburnt penguin 716. Why do people slow down on the highway when they pass a cop car pulling someone else over? just to be cautious, i guess 717. Are they afraid that the cop will STOP pulling over whoever he is pulling over and pull them over instead? possible, i guess 718. It’s daddy’s birthday. What do you get him? something sports related 719. What’s your 5,000 question survey nickname? Look at the word next to the 2nd letter of your first name A anything but B bubalicious C captivating D deadly E erotic F funky G greasy H heaps of I indie J jelly K kinetic L lasher M Mr. (or Mrs.) N neglected O ogre-like P parading Q quacking R Rico S stinky T the one and only U uber V Velcro W wishing for X x-tra Y yearning for Z zoobalee Now take the first letter of your last name. A aardvarks B baboo C creme pie D drag queen E eggbert F flex G god H hell I Isabelle J juice K kisses L lightning M mannish boys N nice O octopi P porcupines Q q-bert R rainbows S suave T tushy U underwear V valor W weenie X xtc Y yohimbe Z zipper Put the two words together for your nickname. indie creme pie 720. You know that shaky feeling that you get when it’s all coming to a climax, and everyone involved is breaking into the good kind of cold sweat, working as individuals and at the same time as a single force of energy, and it all meshes together, and for a brief moment, you’re holding your breath and tingling all over, and after it’s done you’re on an explosive and dizzying high for the rest of the night? What does that feeling come from? drugs prolly 721. How many of your teachers can you imagine drinking or doing drugs on the weekends? definitely some of my high school teachers 722. Do you like Alice in Wonderland or Through the Looking Glass? i like alice in wonderland 723. Write a question and answer it here. what do you want to be doing right now? eating 724. Who is your favorite playwright? i don’t have one 725. What movie has come out recently that you couldn’t have less interest in? there are so many lol 726. What would the worst movie ever be about? poop 727. Do you like truffles? Do you like Turkish delight? not a huge chocolate person 728. Can you tell the difference between a transvestite and a real woman? it doesn’t really matter if i can or not 729. What’s funnier, plants or fire extinguishers? lol neither? 730. For question 720 did you write down sex? You pervert, I was thinking of musical theater. i didn’t actually 731. Which is better, leopard print or plaid? plaid for sure 732. What would you consider ordinary? blondes 733. What is out of the ordinary? dogs with sweaters 734. Do you ever watch COPS? I FUCKING LOVE COPS 735. Is there always room for j - e - l - l - o? i hate jello 736. If you had your own TV show, what kind of show would you make it? a horror drama 737. Do you know how heavy things like airplanes stay in the air? buoyancy??? idk if that even makes sense 738. When do you act the most dramatic? every single day of my entire life 739. Are you one of those people who have, “see photo id,” written on the back of their credit cards? i don’t think so 740. It’s mom’s birthday. What do you get her? she’s hard to shop for so idk, i’d probably ask 741. What celebrity has pretty much disappeared leaving you wondering 'where are they now’? amanda bynes 742. Would you get angry if you and your girl/boyfriend saw the preview for a movie and talked about seeing it together and then they saw it with one of their friends while you were busy? jack has done that before lol. except with his mother and i was a lil mad because we talked about seeing it and he went without me but it ended up being a good movie and he took me later that week or something 743. How many people do you think will finish this whooooooole survey? not many, i’d say 744. Have you ever written a message, sealed it in a bottle and thrown it into a river/lake ocean? nah. 745. If you haven’t would you want to? sure 746. If you ever did what would you write? something significant 747. What do you wish you could always be protected from? death 748. What small thing annoys you so much it should be a crime? when people chew with their mouth open 749. Would you rather watch a video of fish in a tank, or the Yule log on TV? fish in a tank 750. Is it better to be loved or feared? loved 100% 751. What causes you to panic? lots of things man 752. Do you believe that you have a strong personality? i think so? unless that’s a bad thing lol 753. When Jesus saves souls…does he trade them in for valuable prizes? idfk man, do i look like jesus? 754. What resolutions would you make if it were new years? lose weight or at least get in better shape 755. Why wait? bc i’m lazy 756. Do you feel like time is on your side or working against you? working against me most of the time 757. What do you do for yourself when you are down to put a little joy back into your life? watch something or read something 758. How much Tolkien have you read? i don’t even know what that is 759. These are the songs on the radio. Which are you most likely to listen to: Time Bomb by Rancid Dead Man’s party by Oingo Boingo The Sun Always Shines on TV by A-ha this one 50 Ways to leave Your Lover by Paul Simon Run by collective Soul 760. Do you believe that Jesus existed as a real person? no 761. Do you believe he was the son of god? idfk dude 762. How do you feel about organized religion? i don’t care 763. What sentence have you heard lately, that would sound pretty odd out of context? idk 763. If you had to choose one image to be a symbol of our times, what would you pick? a cat 764. Name a group of people: crowd 765. How many of them does it take to screw in a light bulb? one, hopefully 766. Do you like the movie The Labyrinth with David Bowie and some muppets? never seen it 767. Do you like the movie The Dark Crystal? never seen it. 768. Metallica or Guns N’ Roses? metallica 769. Do you follow the Chinese zodiac? i used to 770. Do you like reggae music? not really. 771. What makes your life worth it every day? getting to see the ones i love 772. Do you seize each day and sink your teeth into it? sure 773. I’ve heard people say that Jim Morrison never yawned because he was just so full of life. How often do you yawn? every single day 774. Who decides what behavior is 'crazy’ or 'sane’? anyone who wants to i suppose 775. Who are the most inspiring artists, musicians, poets, and writers? oh there’s tons. robin williams was always an inspiration to me and so was van gogh. 776. Did anything historically significant happen in the year you were born? not that i know of 777. Besides blowing out birthday candles when do you make wishes? on shooting stars whenever i see them 778. Are you self-sufficient? i try to be 779. Is it better to be wanted or needed? wanted 780. What do you feel is an appropriate age to lose one’s virginity at? whenever they are ready 781. Do you feel that the appropriate age for girls and for boys is different? no 782. Are you a hard person to get to know? i don’t think so. i’m an open book 783. What is the craziest thing you have ever done out of anger? hurt myself 784. What’s the MOST annoying sound you can think of? nails on a chalkboard 785. What’s the silliest vegetable you can think of? idk 786. Do you believe in love at first sight? not really 787. Name one thing you have referred to in the past as “better than sex”: food lol 788. What do you see when you turn out the light? it’s dark so probably not a lot 789. Do you like jazz, blues and/or swing music? nope 790. Do you prefer gold or silver jewelry? silver 791. In what ways do you want your children to be like you? i don’t want children 792. In what ways would you want your children to be different from you? ^ 793. What was the scariest movie you’ve ever seen? back when i was little freddy kreuger scared the actual shit out of me 794. What was the funniest movie you’ve ever seen? grown ups or horrible bosses 795. What was the worst movie you’ve ever seen? the haunting of molly hartley 796. Are you a good massage-giver? i think so. 797. What is one question that no one can ever truthfully answer 'yes’ to? if they know everything 798. Is there more to this world than human beings can perceive? of course there is 799. If matter is neither created nor destroyed then is it possible that you are made up of molecules that once made up Ghandi or Jesus or Einstein? sure why not? 800. Are you often sarcastic? pretty often.
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