#florence hamersley
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deepdeanvsweston 16 days ago
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brainrotted about the five in jfp 馃様
do you have other hcs or thoughts about any of them? (legit anything idm lmaoo)
I'm actually legally not allowed to think about the Five because otherwise I start screaming and tearing doors off their hinges etc etc. /j
This didn't turn out as hcs as such but odd ramblings sorry anon 馃槄
Ok first of all not a hc but Poison Tree by Grouper is soooooo the Five and Elizabeth it's unbelievable please listen to it and think of Them
- Una goes on to work at Deepdean!!! This is one of my strongest beliefs of what happens to the Five, though I can never decide if she would become school nurse or headteacher
- something something JFP will never happen again under her watch...
- I personally really love Mrs Dichmann being a beloved and respected headteacher, but me and someone were talking about her being a school nurse and flirting with gym teacher Florence which was also a Good Option <3
- she and Kitty (who canonically works at Deepdean) are like. frenemies. Even without the events of JFP I think they'd clash, but also Kitty feels slightly indebted to her about looking after Binny during JFP so it's sort of... odd between them
- though if one of the male teachers dad something sexist they definitely go and have a bitch about him. Slash his tyres maybe
- Lettice goes on to do charity work! I'm not sure what in canon era, but definitely in a modern au working with a charity that tries to help young people with eating disorders
- and I mean canonically as a debutante she'd been seen favourably if she did a bit of charity work anyway
- Lettice is friends with Bertie!!! And there's a genuinely plausible way for them to meet too!!!
- ok so not to infodump about the history of the debutante BUT there's an event held at Eton every year called the 4th June (ironically not always held on the 4th June) where they do loads of boating and essentially posh versions of praise assemblies. This would be an Event that would be in your diary as a debutante, and old Etonians would be there too
- I like to think they meet at that! Lettice as a debutante, Bertie somehow roped in as a Old Etonian idk
- the important thing about their friendship to me is they don't know anything about each other. They don't realise the connection to Deepdean and Daisy (possibly mildly unrealistic seeing with Daisy's whole spiel about how all upperclass families know of each other but idc)
- idk I see similarities in them that make me scream
- (I would gladly do a Lettice and Bertie post with the slightest provocation)
- Lettice is the only one who visits Enid in prison. She's glad Enid did what she did and tells her not to regret it. Enid tells her she doesn't care about being in prison, that she'd do it a 1000 times again if it means Elizabeth would be dead every time
- (JFP timeloop au anyone???)
- Lettice always cared more about Enid than Enid did about her. Everyone but Lettice caught onto this
- honestly one of several fucked up situationships in MMU
- I hc Enid as the one to tell Elizabeth that Lettice was in a psychiatric hospital in a desperate attempt to protect herself by appeasing to Elizabeth's love of control
- actually Florence who pushes Enid to murder Elizabeth
- she makes a cruel, but offhand, comment about how Enid is a thinker, she isn't brave enough to actually do anything daring "better a fool than a coward" idk
- those are the words ringing through her head as she swings the stick
- quoted from my Enid post: it being Bonfire Night and Enid being a dramatic bitch who's read about Guy Fawkes, envisions herself as a successful him, taking down a tyrannical ruling power, and she doesn't hesitate as her fingers curl round the handle.
- I reckon Florence and Enid are two sides of the same coin. I can easily see Florence coming to the same conclusion about what to do with Elizabeth
- none of them are friends they're all just bound together by the fucking Situation
- idk how to explain it but they all wish the rest of the Five were dead but in a really sexually-charged way
- I think Elizabeth was clever in who she picked to be 'her Five'. Any of the Big Girls had secrets who she could manipulate and threaten into being cruel, but idk if they have quite the depraved level of loyalty as specifically Florence, Una, Margaret, Lettice and Enid did
- something about the Five not knowing who they are outside of a mask, or putting on that mask to hide something about themselves. None of them are true, or have a sense of belonging. I think Elizabeth gave them that. Please tell me this makes sense
Just realised I didn't write anything about Margaret and Florence??? I'd say I think you can guess who my favourites are but with the Five you don't really have favourites you have those you like to inspect under a microscope more than others
(Also to the person who asked about Beanie Martineau hcs they're on the way <3)
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mmufanatic 11 months ago
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Florence Hamersley headcanons?
Hello! Idk if some of this will just be repeating stuff from Jolly Foul Play but anyway here's some headcanons:
- very angry a lot of the time- sports helps her vent some of her anger, that's why she likes it so much
-kind of reminds me a bit of Lavinia so possibly ADHD? Also could use sport as a way of using some energy
-very practical- could never understand Lettice fussing over hair and how she looks (still worried about her though)
- probably close to Una because it was her she met up with in Jolly Foul Play but I think she would be close to Margaret too. I now headcanon her as a lesbian (possibly Margaret/ Florence ? Absolutely no evidence but that's fiiine)
- I imagine her to have lived in a big country house, playing sports in the grounds.
- She HATES parties or balls or whatever because she has to wear dresses and make up and also they're very boring.
- Cuts her hair really short as soon as she moves out and her parents can't tell her what to do
- I think that she would feel more comfortable with herself during the war because women were taking on roles that were seen as more masculine and so she's not as confined to things that people thought of as feminine (possibly non- binary Florence?).
Thanks for the ask because I hadn't given her that much thought and now I've built up more of a person in my head, rather than one of the Five.
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deepdeanvsweston 9 months ago
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Watching the olympic ceremony rn and thinking of Florence Hamersley
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deepdeanvsweston 10 months ago
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The Five face claims for fun :)
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Sophie Cookson as Margaret Dolliswood
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Rachel Hurd Wood as Florence Hamersley
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Sarah Gadon as Lettice Prestwich
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Lily James as Una Dichmann
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This Anne Hathaway as Enid Gaines
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Jessie Buckley (if she wasn't ginger) as Elizabeth Hurst
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deepdeanvsweston 10 months ago
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Una Dichmann headcanons?
ABSOLUTELY and sorry this took ages to answer I am Back At Work
Una Dichmann's secret was that her grandparents were Jewish, but her father was a high ranking nazi officer. I feel like there are 2 most obvious options for this - that either her father is undercover and a spy, or has sworn off his family? Also for your consideration, who's side of the family are the grandparents from? I don't remember JFP saying (but please correct me if I'm wrong!)
This of course is a dangerous secret for Elizabeth to have known, and actually another reason I subscribe to the headcannon that they were all genuinely true friends before Elizabeth went off the rails. I think Una trusted Elizabeth enough at some point to disclose she was Jewish, and maybe even the fact that she was worried for her grandparents in Germany. I imagine the fact her father was a high ranking nazi officer was common knowledge (and I believe it's explained in the books as being as such?)
This was a secret that had life threatening consequences for other people! Una must have been terrified and there's this bit in JFP that really sticks out to me is
"Oh, let them," said Florence's voice, snorting. "They can't hurt us."
"Yes they can," Una said. "If they knew-"
This bit is about the shrimps now that Elizabeth was dead, and none of the Five seem to realise that Una's secret could get people killed, rather than just humiliated. Also I reckon Florence thinks that if a shrimp told her secret, it would be brushed off as a jealous shrimp at best, while a shrimp finding out Una and her family are Jewish would have started powerful rumours, especially with the rise of antisemitism.
- Una's mother is never mentioned, but I don't want her dead so she's not going to be in these headcannons and I like to think the grandparents are on the mother's side of the family
- Una also has siblings, her sister is a year away from starting at Deepdean, and she has a brother in third form at Eton
- I imagine Una grew up in Germany as her father is in the nazi party and has high rank
- she and her family left Germany when she was 9, and they live in London. Her father was supposed to come with, but he didn't.
- the Dichmanns don't talk about him, even though Una thinks they should.
- while at Deepdean, Una falls in with Elizabeth pretty quick > they know they're both outsiders, even if noone says it to their faces, with Elizabeth's second hand clothing and Una's German accent
- because of this she and Elizabeth become quite close
- Una gets quite good at swimming and competes in galas and all sorts
- this in fact sort of bridges the gap between Elizabeth and the rest of the Five, as Una is decent at sports and so pals up with Florence
- and then Lettice and Margaret and Enid warm to them both too
- Una tries, very much like Hazel, to fit in with the mucking up of her things and it works to gel her with the other girls.
- soon she knows Elizabeth has been collecting secrets on them all, but she'd been na茂ve enough to think that because hers was so serious, it'd be left alone.
- what makes Una so frightened isn't the fact that Elizabeth knows her secret, but the fact it's all a game to her. To Elizabeth, it's cruel, yes, and a way of wielding power, but Una sometimes feels like her life is in Elizabeth's hands.
- Margaret is the only one who seems to understand the gravity of both of their secrets, and while Una won't let Margaret touch her, or meet her eye after finding out her secret, they form a sort of alliance
- the feeling of hostage doesn't go away with her death, and she is only glad that Enid murdered her before Una was forced to
- Una is the only one of the Five not to be horrified by Enid's actions > the rest of them are relieved, and glad Elizabeth is dead, of course, but that doesn't translate into supporting Enid's course of action
- but also she's the only one not to visit her in prison
- Una thinks if she looks Enid in the eye, she might see her reflection.
- during the war, Una becomes Deepdean's school nurse, and good but tentative friends with Kitty.
- she works her way up the ranks, until she's headmistress and tries and fights and tries to make Deepdean a Better Place everyday
- a girl named Pearl with a familiar surname enters Deepdean's doors (dayboarder only) and a mother even more familiar comes to every swimming gala her daughter completes in
- Lettice and Una catch each other's eye too many times and spend too much time in each other's company
- Lettice becomes Una's 'informal educational advisor' (they're lesbians)
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deepdeanvsweston 11 months ago
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Big God by Florence + the Machine is about The Five ok guys
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deepdeanvsweston 9 months ago
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@mmufanatic you are so right it IS Florence Hamersley,,, how embarrassing nobody look at me 馃馃槼
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Watching the olympic ceremony rn and thinking of Florence Gaines
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