#flames of hope spoilers

[princedragonoverlord]

Gonna put a read more in case this counts as too much spoiler for Wof book 15: Flames of Hope

So I haven't seen anyone talking about the dragons from before the scorching! Like I've seen stuff about Freedom/Lizard and plenty of fanart but I haven't seen a thing about her mother or the other dragons mentioned. Where are the fanarts of them? Does anyone have ocs from this time? Cause I sure as heck plan to make a few

What are the theories surrounding them? Cause it sure seems like all the dragons or at least some have interesting common ancestors

What would their names have been like? Their tribes? Although it really seems like there weren't any specific tribes. Their cultures and languages? What was thousands of years before this time?

I'm so interested in the time before the scorching, please tell me your thoughts or come up with stuff about it! I'd love to see it!

[infinitelymint]

I’ve been thinking about something else as well…

ONYX STORM SPOILERS!!!!!!!!

Sgaeyl basically doesn’t speak to Xaden for the entirety of the book… and then in the end, once he’s sacrificed the last of his humanity for her, she says

“We will ask,” … “And her decision will determine our fate.”

WE will ask, OUR fate

She hasn’t spoken to him for months and months but in the end they are a team 🥹

[chronomaza]

Revisiting this a little because I've since gotten more thoughts about this;

What if cottonmouth just wasn't there at all? What if he died shortly after the scorching, and Freedom was all that was left of his plan, almost like an experiment gone wrong? What if Freedom's memories of the few humans around cottonmouth they were able to control and gain the memories of were the only true remnant of humanity? Freedom is more human than dragon memory wise, why not 10x that? You'd spend the entire series getting hints of humanity existing in the past through the environment, making you wonder what happened, and then you'd find out through Freedom, who'd been reluctantly existing the past 5000 years, and is only spreading the plant further because it's all they've ever known.

And Luna, who doesn't even know what humans are, and only learns through what Freedom shows her...

Is forced to destroy what's left of a once great civilization, finally destroying what was left of the world before, and putting rest to humanity forever- all for the sake of saving her own species, the very species that was humanity's downfall. It'd be almost poetic- and make the ending of arc 3 feel much more climatic and make the foreshadowing for the scorching throughout the entire series make more sense and have a bigger payoff.

I swear at this point I'll end up rewriting the entirety of arc 3- or maybe everything, there's so many glaring ways to fix the issues with this series it's frustrating. Tui why why why why I know you're part of erin hunter and I should've expected this but whyyyyy

Ok so, hot take, but I feel like flames of hope (and just the stuff to do with humans in wings of fire in general) would've been A LOT better if humans went extinct during the scorching, and cottonmouth was the only one left. Like, yeah sure, it was cool going through the memories and everything, but CAN YOU IMAGINE how surreal and uniquely terrifying it would've been to read through this series and have the only evidence of humans even existing in the first place be mysterious ruins, or the occasional remnant of their culture, only to find out at the end that this entire series has secretly been set post apocalypse when cottonmouth shows up. Could a dragon like Luna even understand what she's looking at in that scenario? Holy hell did the series ever have enough buildup to do this, too. The scorching is mentioned since book 1. Even if the humans were still around, but stayed as these mysterious background creatures instead of getting all involved with the plot, this could've worked. God it'd make for such a unique concept, AND it'd make for a insane conclusion to the series that'd wrap stuff up a lot better instead of leaving every reader with a sense of dread knowing the series is going in the dragon rider direction. (It'd also make the inevitable book about the scorching 10x more interesting to read).

Really, book 15 just makes me sad thinking about all the missed potential it has.

[trix-or-treatz]

I would like to please introduce the people to my baby boy, Sol, who started as just an Ace seraphim concept and then rapidly became his own guy also. I love him dearly.

More miscellaneous drawings (of varying degrees of finished) below the cut so as to not take up your whole dash <3

[softmenace]

“I’m not wandering, Violet. I’m exactly where I need to be.”

"Hold the line, Vi."

"Don't leave me." "I won't, I swear."

“I’m here. And I still don’t regret it, Vi. Not one second.”

What if I just thew myself off a cliff???

[beatrix33]

I will die on the hill that my first theory was the correct one and that Bodhi is the "brother" Here are my reasons

when asked what we should pay attention to in order to figure out who the brother is RY said "Pay attention to someone who is missing at the end" and "Pay attention to someone who feels like whatever they have been given is not enough"

Bodhi is missing at the end

Bodhi's signet could not counter Theopanie's storm

it feels heavily implied that if Bodhi was Venin he would be capable of countering other Venin

Bodhi spends the whole book trying to fight and being sidelined by Xaden

bodhi's character seemed very stuck in this book, it felt like because of his status as the heir he was unable to do much, if he became Venin this would change because he would have to leave with Xaden which would open him up to more interesting development from a plot standpoint

if this happened it would also leave Tyrrendor to violet which offer interesting moments for her plot in book four as well

I don't think it is Garrick mostly because it doesn't make sense for his character at this point in time,

yes, he says that he is nearing burn out but he also says "So I’d better find some fucking way to do something[other than weild].”

post him saying this we do not see him wield again

I think it is very possible that Xaden or Bodhi found him and Imogen and brought them into the loop during the 12 hours erased from violets mind

Anyhoo just my thoughts please comment your opinions and theories I would love to hear them!

[willoillo]

Spoilers for WoF book 15 for today's dragons!! I had this idea a bit ago but wasn't sure how to go about it till recently.

So have Freedom, Luna and Dusky, right at the end of it. One of the scenes that hit me real close to home.

[theghostinabadbook]

Yeah, we are fucked up

[sthenoaloraquest]

🌩Onyx Storm a rant about Xaden's mom

(Currently Re-reading Onyx Storm)

Imogen, Im, can I call you that? I'mma call you that.

Im could you pretty freaking please, erase Talia from my mind. Xaden's too. Better yet, just erase it from Quest Squad. Trager's gone (🥲), so that's one less person that can retell of Talia's existence and one less person for you to erase her memory from. To big of an ask? We can make a trade you take Talia's existence away, and then give us back the 12 missing hours.

The re-read still doesn't help.

She said it was about Fen and then blamed it on Xaden being Tyrrendors Heir, which both were gone after the rebellion, so no leg to stand on there. Jesus, the guy saved her blanket and loves chocolate cake because she had it made for his birthday. If Faris is the asshole that I know he is, why not have a whole hidden freaking treasure chest of things she had wished to give him but couldn't and send it with him after that disaster of dinner? She made it sound like she wanted to reconnect with him, yet the conversation she decided to parent him on is him being in a loveless marriage, that she herself disliked doing with Fen, and give up some more of his real self for politics? Yikes lady. 😬

Faris got off to freaking easy for poisoning Garrick (and everyone, had Violet not caught on), poor Ridoc had to sew his flight jacket, and the bastard shuttered Xaden's somewhat happy memory of his mom.

[mcytegg]

i actually just dont know what ill do w myself once subz is done w the 10k wardens tbh

[princedragonoverlord]

Spoiler warnings for Flames of Hope!

No read more this time though

I had character ideas! And name ideas! For before the scorching dragons!

What if they have names based off very basic elements of things?

Examples:

- Tree

- Air

- Shape (I'm totally using this one)

- Darkness (Might also use this)

- Plant

I was thinking simple names cause Freedom was simply called Lizard by Cottonmouth, although that is obviously a human just stating what she is to him, it still gave me the idea. Otherwise instead of simple it could be more abstract like the name Freedom. Using concepts, sort of how nightwings are named but more abstractly.

Examples:

- Justice

- Friendly

- Time (Also using)

- Bravery (using this too)

Idk that's what I have so far, also feel free to use any of these names for any ocs, even the ones I'm probably gonna use :3

[marshmallowgoop]

This is a story of despair and hope that befalls children who dream of becoming witches.

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[pepa-is-drawing]

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[yudidoodles]

I can see why Makoto is called the dumbest protagonist now- Hajime may struggle with geometry but MAN did this take the cake- the sun track shouldn't play for the obvious stuff this early in the case lmaooooo

[thedeadthree]

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[t-u-i-t-c]

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