#flame lxa

[sometimesrosy]

Hey Rosy ! why do you think they NEVER mention Wells or even Finn, but always refer to Lexa ? I mean, Wells was Clarke's best friend for what ? 17 years ? And Finn was Clarke's first love on the ground. It just feels weird.

They do mention Wells and Finn. They both have a presence that has lasted for a while, and have been referenced with their primary relations long after they died. But Lxa was a famous person in that world. A leader. And now an immortal presence in the flame. So. Her effect on the show and characters is greater.

CL didn’t need to happen at all for that to be true. 

I feel like what you are feeling is your feeling that Wells and Finn should be a BIGGER presence because you care more about them than you do about Lxa, and that’s fair for you, but it doesn’t really match the narrative weight of the story, which has a much bigger focus on Lxa as Commander and now part of the flame.

If you weren’t going on your feeling that Finn and Wells should be more important than Lxa, then you would have to admit that Finn and Wells have continued to be a part of the story, and you wouldn’t have said that they NEVER mention them.

I don’t remember Finn being mentioned in season 5, but Wells certainly was, so their presence remains. I mean, if you’re thinking that Wells and Finn should be more important to CLARKE, then I think the problem is that you’re ignoring that the reason why Lxa is a bigger influence on Clarke is because she, well, she did more than just break her heart or cause her to suffer a loss. She affected her leadership, her trust, her worldview, her relationship with Bellamy and with the rest of the delinquents, gave her a power that no one else had, opened up her world to the bigger story. And Finn and Wells had, pretty much, only an emotional effect on Clarke. 

If you want all that story to go away because you don’t like the relationship, that’s not gonna happen. Lxa’s part in the story is BIGGER than Wells or Finn, but that doesn’t mean that Well’s or Finn’s parts didn’t happen.

This is part of how a bias for or against a character can interfere with our understanding of a story. If we invalidate the role of Lxa, because we don’t like her or CL, then we miss out on how much her part in the story was PIVOTAL to both Clarke’s character development and the narrative. If we lionize L and make CL the most important thing, then we, quite likely, ignore the fact that the WAY L and CL affected the narrative and Clarke was mostly very negative. L and CL gave Clarke some things, but they took away a lot that kept her from being herself and being the hero she can be, and part of her story NOW is recovering from that trauma, as we saw when FlameLxa admitted her betrayal (finally) and allowed Clarke to move on and accept that her love for Bellamy was valuable and important and not a weakness, thus changing the outcome of the story. 

You think it feels weird. You aren’t reading the narrative the way the narrative is going. You erased when they do mention Wells and Finn, which is, well, not as affecting to Clarke as you think it should be. 

The question should be “I expected it to be more focused on Wells and Finn and it’s not, so WHY is it focusing on Lxa more,” and then trying to figure out WHY that is, instead of just saying it’s wrong and weird and deciding that’s a failure.

I mean. Wells death had a bigger effect on Jaha. For Clarke’s story, it seemed to teach her about forgiveness, and learning to understand people who she thought of as her enemy, and opened her up to Bellamy, to Lxa, to the grounders, to everyone. Finn’s death had a bigger effect on Raven. For Clarke’s story, it started the connection of love=weakness=death, and her lack of confidence in herself. Both Wells and Finn opened her up to be more influenced by Bellamy and Lxa later. So she could move to the next part of the story.

I see Wells living on in Bellamy’s character, although that is, admittedly, more symbolic than canon. In many ways, his explicit effect ended with Jaha’s death, although that doesn’t mean that he won’t come back this season. I feel like Clarke might have resolved her issues with Wells, so we don’t see them continuing. Finn lives on with Raven and I expect that to come back his season, especially after Zeke’s death. I am still not sure why you say the show never mentions him. But if it’s because you think he should be a bigger thing in Clarke’s life, I don’t know why, her conflict with Finn was resolved when she mercy killed him. And it was the love=death that she moved onto, which was taken over by Lxa, which was emphasized again and again. 

Anyway, you might want to let go of that resentment that L gets more memorializing than Wells or Finn. Honestly. What does it get you? Does it help you understand better? No. Because you’re not honestly asking the question. Your expressing frustration that it didn’t fit what you think it should do. 

Also, now that the flame is back in play, FlameLxa is an active character, of a type. That’s not a reference. That’s an actual character. And she’s somewhat different than the original. So why is she still in the story? Because she’s STILL IN THE STORY. She’s not dead yet. 

[quietmonologues]

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[shayera-the-magpie]

I love Clxa and Lxa but at this point, the Flame is unnecessary. It's been 125 years since Apocalypse Three.

Shouldn't tradition change just like after Apocalypse One?

[immortalpramheda]

Okay, I like Lxa as a character but after having time to process the finale I’m actually very annoyed she came back. We already had closure with her. She died in Clarke’s arms which was tragic and sad, but Clarke held onto the Flame and was constantly thinking about her. She returned in the S3 finale and had a proper send off, and they even added the ‘I love you’ in ADR. We already knew Clarke loved her. And not to mention all the times she’s been mentioned since then just to hammer home how much she meant to Clarke.

For her to come back in the form of an alien who takes the shape of someone Clarke loves didn’t need to happen. I’m sorry, but she was a minor character in S2 and S3 and she didn’t need to be brought back for a big chunk of the series finale.

Bellamy, the male lead of the show, had no closure whatsoever. I don’t wish the alien had been in the shape of him, we already know Clarke loves him and how much she means to him. It should have been Madi, or Abby, or her dad, or even Wells. Heck it shouldn’t have been a big deal who it took the form of because we know all the people Clarke loves.

The problem is that Bellamy wasn’t a minor character - he was the second main character and had been there since the very beginning. He died alone believing everyone hated him at the hands of his best friend. No one really mourned him, he was all but forgotten except for a few throwaway comments that ‘he was right’. No one felt regret about not believing him. No one spoke up and said they wished he could have been here on the beach at the end. He was erased from the narrative and a minor character who died in S3 and whose story had already been wrapped up overshadowed him (and almost everything else that happened in the finale).

Bellamy’s presence should have been felt in the finale, at the least. Instead, the finale removed any essence of him in favour of a fan favourite minor character to appease a certain subset of fans.

[bellamyblinkingrapidly]

Unpopular opinion but I think it was handled pretty well when Lxa died & it ended up being good.

It is foreshadowed. We see young kids training for a future conclave. We know commanders die young. Lxa singles out the kid she wants to lead after her.

She gets a redemption arc first. She gets to win back Clarke’s trust (and ours). She makes up for the betrayal at MW by calling skaikru her own people.

It adds to Clarke’s tragic love history: Wells, Finn, Lxa. Also her dad (for non-romantic love).

The whole season a conflict is brewing centered around Azgeda. They want the throne from Lxa. They are breaking their deals. Skaikru has been at war with Azgeda. There’s so much tension there and the only thing keeping it all from boiling over entirely is Lxa. She’s holding it all together, so it makes complete dramatic sense for Lxa to die. When the ruler dies, the kingdom goes into chaos. Thats the best time for a coup... and that’s what Azgeda had been wanting.

It’s poetic irony that her most devoted advisor who loved her so much was the cause of her death. It’s also ominous for grounders taking up guns (which happens with wonkru and goes pretty bad overall). And ominous for flamekeepers and hedas... Gaia has to make a choice between the flame and Madi later on.

Lxa dies from a bullet meant for Clarke. She dies because she loves Clarke. This hits home again that “love is weakness.”

Lxa dies for Clarke. Lxa tells Clarke that Finn dies for her. Wells comes to the ground (and dies) for her. Her mother turned her father in (and killed him) for her. It all adds up and compounds to make Clarke who she is.

Lxa’s former love interest died because she was loved by Lxa. Lxa’s worst fears almost come true... Clarke is almost killed because Lxa loves her. But Lxa takes the bullet herself. She dies because she loves Clarke and Clarke loves her. That’s a really tragic repetition and pattern.

Clarke could not be in a relationship with Lxa long term for the show. She couldn’t. In fics, go for it. But the face and leader of skaikru... needed to go home. That’s also what the season was about: Clarke running away (from who she was, from her people, etc.) Lxa dying forces Clarke back to her real life, back to reality, back to skaikru. That needed to happen for the narrative. Could they have just broken up? I guess. Sure. But the alliance between skaikru and the other clans was built on Lxa’s feelings for Clarke so that would be kinda complicated to say the least.

Lxa and Clarke have a tragic romance. There’s betrayal. Confusion. Promises. Unspoken feelings of love. They finally act on their feelings — finally kiss and sleep together. In a romance novel, this would be like the midpoint of love. The false high where they almost can be together. They’re falling in love but not admitting it to each other. They also haven’t faced down the reasons they have to NOT fall in love yet & worked through their problems. After the midpoint usually it’s when the worst fears about being in a relationship come true... whatever was keeping them from love actually happens. In this case, I think they were both afraid of love because it meant they could lose someone else & it would hurt them and make them “weak” leaders. So what happens? Lxa almost loses Clarke. Clarke does lose Lxa. An abrupt ending to their romance... but Clarke does get to confess her feelings. There’s a slight bit of epilogue and resolution in the form of Lxa via the flame. But they were telling a love story, it just ended in tragedy rather than a happily ever after.

I can see how it would hurt people to have a lesbian character on the show killed off in a plot twist, especially when she was one of like two and especially right after Clarke and Lxa finally sleep together. I don’t think that’s a reason she shouldn’t have died. It means there should be MORE representation. Also possibly it didn’t need to happen right after they slept together. Clarke herself is bi representation. She also hooks up with Niylah in S3 & S4 & then Niylah becomes a more featured character on her own in S5. But Niylah is mostly just a love interest compared to the awesomeness of Lxa & how she was a fully fledged main character. I can see how losing that representation hurts.

Lxa’s death has ECHOES specifically in regards to the flame that make it valid and important and constantly remembered.

Clarke getting close to Lxa puts her close to the flame. It sets up Clarke becoming a flamekeeper, seeking out nightbloods, becoming heda for a short time, and taking the flame.

Clarke cares about who has the flame because of Lxa. Lxa gets to live on through the flame and come back to us a few times.

Clarke doesn’t want Madi to become heda because she remembers what happened to Lxa.

Clarke survives in S6 bc she had the flame.

Sheidheda returns because of the flame.

Bill Cadogan wants Clarke because of the flame.

Supposedly the human race could be saved by the flame.

We also learn more about history because Clarke has the flame at one point.

Clarke is able to take down the City of Light because of the flame.

(Essentially: the flame is really important, and getting something that important into our main character’s hands is more dramatic than having someone else lead the way with it the whole time. Also—the writers have ensured that Lxa’s death and memory is protected because of the flame. Clarke makes certain decisions as a direct result of her time spent with Lxa. She isn’t forgotten.)

All in all, I know that a lot of people think it didn’t make any sense & came out of nowhere. And I just couldn’t disagree more.

It may not have been their initial choice because it may have been a scheduling conflict with the actress. But ultimately it was the ballsy move. The most dramatic move. A Game of Thrones type move. Take out the leader who is holding everything together & see what the hell happens. Maybe at the time when it first happened that’s not where it seemed like the story was going... I’ll never know because I watched it after S6 was on Netflix.

Watching it all together the first time and then multiple times after that, I don’t find it shocking. I don’t find it out of place or strange. There are tons of other times I find a choice taking the story in a weird direction. But Lxa’s death is not one of them.

It’s something that feels like it needed to happen and they’ve done a really good job of reinforcing that choice over the years. Every single season it makes more and more sense why Lxa had to die IMO.

[lightcomingthroughthedarkness]

Pineapples erasing bi sexuality like always... they’re mad bellarke was emotionally romantically canon and they feel invalid cause clarke loved a man? They think Bobs being disrespectful to the community bc hes saying bellarke was romantic? Clarke’s fucking bi. She can love a man and have romantic feelings for one. Literally LGBT has THE NAME BISEXUAL IN IT. How can that be an insult to say clarke had feelings for a man? Oh my god my brain cells are dying trying to understand their nonsense

They've always erased Clarke's bisexuality. Saying she likes women more, so therefor she loves Lxa more. Saying it was disrespectful to "Lxa's memory" when Clarke had sex with Niylah and Cillian because apparently then Clarke was seen as the "bisexual slut" who can't keep it in her pants, having sex again. They always only cared about THEIR lesbian representation, which wasn't Clarke. It was Lxa. So they erased the parts of Clarke they didn't like. Her liking men too.

And they feel attacked and invalidated by ANYTHING that stands against their representation, even if they have to step over other people's representation.

If Clarke were with men, it invalidated CL and Lxa. If Clarke were with women, she became the horrible "bi slut trope".

The problem here was Clarke having sex and moving on. Doesn't matter if it was with a man or woman. It was never about Clarke or anyone else. It was them, feeling invalidated whenever Clarke was the bisexual character she has always been and not the lesbian rep they wanted her to be.

Bob confirming Clarke had romantic feelings for Bellamy is double the attack, they think. On them personally (how dare Beliza) and on their ship.

Complete and utter nonsense. They are pathetic. Jason got ADC to come back on the show and he still refused to give CL endgame. He destroyed the flame instead.

Pineapples are clowns. And dumb. Kissing Jason's ass again because of what he said in an interview. Lmaooo, you absolute clowns. Jason HAD ADC and STILL didn't follow through. You clowns 😅😅😅😅💀💀

[goddess-aelin]

*sees a theory from a clxa about how lxa is going to come back when they fix the flame*

Me, who has lived through the clusterfuck of fandom during s3:

[clarkgriffon]

Another random question (and u gonna hate me) … but would u rather flame!lxa x Clarke endgame or b*cho endgame?

Shejflflfk I don’t hate you, this is actually an easy one for me.

I pick flame!Lxa because it’s so outrageous it willl NEVER happen. BE is a real possible endgame at this point and if it is how the series ends I may just jump off a cliff, but flame!Lxa x Clarke is literally just impossible so it doesn’t scare me and consequently is what I have to choose.

I believe it’s confirmed by Jroth himself or possibly a different writer that the only consciousness left from the Flame is Sheidheda. Raven killed the rest of them in 6x13. So that means Becca, Lxa, Clarke from her time with the Flame, and even Madis consciousness locked into the Flame from S5/6 are g o n e. The fact that some delusional CLs might actually think this is a possibility is so funny to me that I have to choose this option over BE, a ship that actually makes my stomach turn and has the possibility to disgrace my TV screen some more in 2020.

[ragnarssons]

Okay I’m gonna need y’all to explain to me why y’all are like this- The finale was underwhelming, yes, that I can say. But?? “Nothing was resolved it served no purpose a finale should serve”??? I’m sorry, have y’all been watching the other seasons’ finales? I mean, ofc the main vilain storyline was resolved every other season too, and it has been this season as well- Madi is freed from Shei-whatever and the Primes are gone and aren’t a threat anymore. So? Nothing was resolved where? About the characters? So, question. WHEN HAS IT EVER BEEN IN A SEASON FINALE ON THIS SHOW? That’s the narrative of the show. That’s how it’s always been on this show. Season 1? The characters don’t even have time to realize what they did that they’re taken by some weird people hidden in a fog and Clarke wakes up alone in a white room! And when do we explore Clarke’s and Jasper’s and Monty’s trauma? In the first episodes of s2. Season 2? Clarke literally runs away from her feelings and her guilt. When do we explore these? At the beginning of s3, and going as far as mid-season 3 for Bellamy and or Bellamy/Clarke. Season 3? Clarke isn’t even “canonically” (without ADR) ALLOWED to express her romantic feelings for Lxa to her. She express them “canonically” (without ADR) several episodes later to her mom, once she def lost Lxa. And while Bellarke ended in a good place, Bellamy trusting Clarke at the end of s3 isn’t adressed until 4x01 either! Raven learns that Clarke survived (BECAUSE OF HER) only on ep4x01 as well! Season 4? Oh well that one had some resolution, because Clarke was so sure she was gonna die that she was kinda making a “goodbye pep talk” to Bellamy. But also since the writers knew they were planning a huge time jump, they needed to tie up some loose ends. Season 5? Well, do we need to talk about that one? Nothing was resolved between Bellamy and Octavia, barely between Bellamy and Clarke- they had opened this huge door when making Bellamy learn about the radio calls. And when was it boiled down to “actual conversations” (tho not enough)? 6x01 and 6x04 for Bellarke, and as late as 6x11 to 6x13 for Bellamy/Octavia. The PROBLEM of the show is that the characters don’t talk enough. But that has been a problem ever since the beginning of the show. It’s plot-driven, rather than character-driven. Thing is, we didn’t like the plot on this episode, so the fact that it lacks good, profound, important characters interactions shows even more. “Bellamy doesn’t have a storyline of his own”??? Why? Because he’s worried about his sister? Huh? We don’t know what Bellamy’s storyline will be on s7. We don’t know if he’s gonna be “motivated” by the idea of finding Octavia or if he’ll find her dead body ten feet from where we left him. Also yes, he said Octavia is not his responsability anymore, she’s still his sister, and he’ll care for her forever. Hence why she felt the right to treat him like shit, and the idea of her and her actions being his responsability, was what allowed Octavia to blame EVERYTHING on Bellamy all the time. Their relationship has taken a new turn, but that doesn’t turn off Bellamy’s feelings for his BABY SISTER. Heck, my sister isn’t my responsability huh, but if she died and then evaporated in my arms I’d be running around screaming her name too! Also it didn’t bother me that much that Clarke wasn’t in this final scene. I think Clarke deserves a break, I can easily imagine her being by Madi’s side, watching her sleep or something, or even taking a nap with her. I’m actually “glad” this storyline seems Bellamy focused. Maybe it’ll revolve around him finding Octavia, it’ll still allow the story to shed light on his feelings and emotions and what he thinks/what he feels or what the people around him (*cough* Clarke) are willing to do to help him and support him. People said that they’d love to see the roles be reversed and see how far Clarke would be willing to go for Bellamy and maybe we’ll see that next season, y’know?? Anyway, I saw this episode as boring and underwhelming and yes, it wasn’t a finale like BOOM FINALE. But it was NOT an anomaly, “less” than what we were used to in terms of how they treated the story over the characters. The finales were ALWAYS plot-driven, always rushed and fast and “ccRAZYYY” with ten things happening at once. Now the things that happened on this episode were mostly Flame driven and Shei-whatever driven, and that was zzzzzzzzzzz. Also everyone KNEW the Anomaly would be the cliffhanger, so that didn’t help (I mean, come on, Jroth was still like “I think people will be surprised” while hellooo, we’ve been speculating Kaia = Hope = the cliffhanger ever since we learnt about Kaia’s casting... and that tied in perfectly with Diyoza going into the anomaly). It was the most underwhelming finale to date, and yes it’s kinda... sad that that happens while it’s the last finale leading to a hiatus. Maybe that’s why people are more angry? But tbh, I don’t think they wrote this episode KNOWING that s7 would be the last. I think it came after, while building s7 in the writers’ room. I think we need to prepare ourselves to have a final season with a lot of threads being abandoned and they’ll probably be more about the characters than the plot, because again, it’s always plot over characters on this show. Because they don’t learn. The reactions are still surprising to me because really, this episode was not different, structure wise, from the other finales we got on other seasons.

[sly2o]

I'm really feeling like Madi's going to end up staying behind? The fact that they went through with giving her the flame just makes me think it's setting her up as the next grounder commander to navigate those who are left on earth. I'd prefer it be destroyed, but I think the writers elevated it so far as a symbol for Lxa that now they HAVE to give it a real resolution. I kind of hate it, but it makes sense to me.

Hi Anon,

I agree that she is probably staying behind. 

It would explain why Lola tweeted “thank you for letting me be your Madi” - because by the time they left and came back she would be aged up.

I’m also thinking that Madi will get left behind with Kane (assuming he makes it to the end of the season). They’ve made a big point this season about all the leadership lessons that he has learned over the past few seasons, and I can’t picture Clarke leaving Madi behind without a guardian. Having Madi in charge, with Kane, and possibly Diyoza, as her regents until she is a bit older would sort of nicely tie in a bow these three factions (Arkadians, Grounders, and Eligius) living together. 

But I mean… nicely tie in a bow? Since when has this show ever… 

Thanks for your ask,Lynne

[sometimesrosy]

I love bellarke and love them even more through your simple explanations and analysis that I sometimes miss. There is one thing I'm curious about that I hope you can explain. When bellamy said spacekru are his family and Clarke took that to mean she's not anymore and then he risked the life of her daughter (I know what he did was right just explaining it from her point at the timr) how did she get over thinking that bellamy didn't care? Was it in the finale of season 5 or the entirety of 6

Hmm. I think that’s a complicated question.

First I want to talk about that scene when he told Clarke that Echo, Raven, Murphy and Emori were his family. 

Because I think that scene was intended to cause a confusion and miscommunication that put an obstacle between Clarke and Bellamy.

Because they were arguing about their need to protect Madi from Octavia, right? And Clarke was willing to let Echo, Raven, Murphy and Emori hang in the wind if she could save Madi. They were not part of her concern when she talked of saving her family. So when Bellamy said they were his family, I don’t think he was meaning it as “they’re my family, but you and Madi aren’t.” I think he was meaning it as, “okay Madi is your family and we need to save her, but Echo, Raven, Murphy and Emori are my family and we need to save them too, and you’re forgetting that.”

He left Clarke and Madi of his list of family, but he also left Monty and Harper off the list. Why? Because he was talking specifically about the people in Eden that Clarke’s plan would put in danger. 

BUT, it was a statement that could be read both ways depending on your POV. 

So the intention within the story, I think, was to make Clarke think that Bellamy no longer counted her as part of his family. 

Her issue was not about him *caring* about her. I think she accepted that he’d moved on with Echo already. She wasn’t looking for her love to be returned. It wasn’t “he doesn’t care for me so I’ll leave him to die,” it was “I thought Bellamy was my hope but he’s just like everyone else in this rotten world.”

I think it *hurt* her that she thought she wasn’t his people, but the WORSE trauma with that scene, and then with him putting the flame in Madi, is that Clarke had been holding onto her image of Bellamy as a hero, as a good man, as the best of humanity. He was the ONLY person left that gave her hope. That’s what kept her sane all that time, talking to that version of him in her head.

And with the flame, and loyalty to a family that was not her, and his supposed betrayal of her, now Bellamy was knocked off the pedestal she’d created. He was no longer the hero. No longer the hope. Losing that hope, she fell apart. It was proof that the world was evil, there was no love, there was no loyalty, there was no hope. All while Madi was digging at her for leaving him behind, and she was working with McCreary, Clarke was a broken person who felt alone, abandoned, and without hope.

When did she get over that? I think in two places. In the conversation with Echo and then Madi!Flame!Lxa, and then when Bellamy showed up with Madi, sparing all the eligius soldiers.

First, he wasn’t dead. That made her recognize that she didn’t want him dead and regretted what she did. Was love a part of it? YES, but it wasn’t love returned, or she wouldn’t have tried to spare Echo JUST because Bellamy loved her and she loved Bellamy. It was love without any strings or hope of return. Her little conversation with Echo led to her little conversation with Madi and Flame!Lxa. Madi must have asked for help from the commanders to deal with Clarke, who was keeping her from leading her people. Who had the answer to Clarke’s trauma? Why Flame!Lxa of course, since she installed a big part of it and new exactly how it echoed this story. 

Flame!Lxa was KEY to Clarke’s forgiveness of Bellamy and thinking he didn’t care. Because she reframed the new story as a replay of Lxa’s abandonment of Clarke. This whole episode was taken as a lesson that Clarke internalized. That love was a weakness, and all leaders would sacrifice their love for the benefit of their people, and also that abandoning Clarke to MW and Bellamy to the pit was the RIGHT thing to do. When L said she was wrong, love was not a weakness and betraying Clarke was her biggest regret, and she told Clarke not to do what she did...what happened is that Clarke instantly reframed the situation with Bellamy  into that parallel and suddenly she saw that she had been wrong.

Clarke RECOGNIZED that she had come to the wrong conclusion and made the wrong choice. Also, she didn’t care if he loved Echo and he didn’t think of her as his family, she just wanted him to be alive.

So she sent out Madi and Echo to save him. Leading to the SECOND part that helped her get over his betrayal.

When he came to the ship, bringing Madi, safe and sound, hauling the enemy eliegius prisoners behind him. Clarke was like NO WAY, stupid commmanders. And Madi was like, it wasn’t the commanders, it was BELLAMY.

And Clarke just went wait what? Bellamy is sparing his enemies because everyone should get a chance to prove themselves? (oh remember s1 when she told Bellamy she believed in second chances and they were talking about Murphy but also about Bellamy himself? See he was now living his life with what she used to believe, what they learned together.) He WAS the hero she thought he was. He WAS the hope for humanity. He WAS to good in the world. He was actually still the man who kept her sane, with nothing but a dead radio and the belief that he would come home.

I don’t think she had any hope of having Bellamy love her at that point. But she didn’t need it. She just needed to know that he was alive and still the person she thought he was. Her hero.

This part of the love story is NOT about romance. It’s about an essential nature of identity, in a way, it’s about that part of her that believed she was connected to him across space, time and death. The other half of her soul. Not romance. Not kissing. Not yearning or sexual tension or love triangles or any of that. 

It was about the gaping wound inside of her when she thought her concept of Bellamy was a lie.

It turns out it wasn’t. He was exactly the person she had thought he was.

Her soulmate.

[mermaeids]

It's not just blarke, this finale was literally a rehash of last season's. We got a last minute takeoff, Bellamy waiting until the last second for someone he cares about, someone getting hurt and having to run to make it. Dude is a hack. I would not be surprised if he doesn't even change the setting and we get like, tree houses and canadian forests again and no cities. Oh, and oh noes, we have to go to war against space grounders. Also no blarke because they'll get separated as soon as they land

yeah. there were so many ways they could have breathed life into that story but NOPE because these writers think they're the shit so all they do is rewrite the "brilliance" they've already written just in a slightly different way.they could have made it unique. they could have taken their heads out of their own asses long enough to come up with something we hadn't seen before, but they didn't. these writers always take the coward's path and i'm done.the problem is that they're SPINELESS. jason keeps insisting that this is the story they've always intended to tell (the flame, madi, etc) but everyone knows that's a lie because lxa was written as a villain before kim got the idea from fans to make her a love interest. instead of moving on they keep bending over backwards to please those fans (even though they're GONE) which includes more grounder storylines, less skaikru, and less bellarke, who happen to be the emotional backbone of the show. which makes the show, again, spineless.jason can keep writing his fanfiction and i'll keep writing mine. i'm just not gonna watch his anymore. it's embarrassing how he's given up all of his integrity as a writer in favor of pleasing and upsetting and baiting certain fans. as a writer, it's almost shameful. i simply don't care anymore.

[shayera-the-magpie]

 When I joined the 100 fandom back in 2015, Lxa was one of my favorite characters. I loved her and was fascinated by her complexity, and was intrigued by her backstory. That’s what faves were made of right?

Fast forward to her death, I was sad.Sad that I was not going to see her again but life goes on, the show goes on. I and a minority decided to stay when the majority left. The show was more important then just one character, right?

Fast forward to 2018. Season 5 has ended and Season 6 is filming. Lxa is mentioned more then other deceased characters (mentions aren’t bad, but when one character is mentioned more then characters that should get mentions, it’s a problem), and even people are putting Madi in Clxa shipping situations when she shouldn’t be. Even making her interactions with Clarke all about Lxa.

Though I say it’s the fault of the writers, especially JRoth. It was his idea to agree to make her into a Lesbian when he most likely planned out her death the moment her character was conceived, invited Clxa fans to the s3 finale shoot when her character was dead at that time, and made sure that they watched 3x07. When she died, well, you could say that Yellowstone may have erupted, because it seems that JRoth is making up for what he did. And he’s doing a piss poor job doing it.

To the point where Madi is caught up in it. There were Clxa shippers pulling her into Clxa situations before s5 aired but the writers seemed to have made it worse with the Flame now inside her. 

And one shouldn’t have to wish that a beloved character hadn’t existed. For me, maybe I’m beginning to wish that Lxa had not lived at all. Because it seems like JRoth is trying to appease a fanbase that wants the show canceled.

Sorry if this seems incoherent, as this was in reaction to a post in where I and @ravenbellclarke reblogged. I might lose some followers with this, but I can’t keep this in.

I have to say something.

And this was my piece.

[yiangchen]

Well, the Madi and Clarke chip scene did get a script to screen and the implication does match up with Clarke not being able to destroy the device because of Lexa. Though it also implies that it's specifically because of the dream Madi was having. I think the child saw Lexa's death. I can see why Clarke wouldn't have been able to destroy the chip in that moment. Still not necessary but I get it.

Agree with everything you’re saying!

I’m honestly still confused though. I wish we had gotten a script to screen for the scene where Madi is having the dream about Becca’s death. Because that scene still confuses me a lot?? Like, Madi says Clarke can’t take out the chip out right now because she “just put it back in” and that if she really wants to take it out, she’d have to destroy it. And I just don’t get why?? 

Does Madi mean that taking out the flame rn would kill her? If that’s the case, why was Clarke able to take it out only hours after it was put into her in 3x16? Or does Madi mean that if Clarke takes it out, she’ll have to destroy it or else Madi will just put it back in?? If it’s true that the only way to take out the flame is by destroying it, then I can see that this would endanger Madi’s life, and that would be why Clarke is afraid to take it out. It wouldn’t be about Lxa at all. 

But then in the scene we did get the script for, it’s clear that Clarke can take it out without destroying it because she threatens to do so. This means that by Madi saying Clarke would have to destroy it, she meant that she would just put it back in otherwise. And the only thing to stop Clarke from destroying it would have to be Lxa. And that’s just…wtf??? Clarke is literally prioritizing her dead lover’s memories over her actual living breathing child?? And that’s so OOC considering her actions in 5x09?? Where she was literally willing to sacrifice all her other loved ones for Madi??? She was willing to let Bellamy die — her best friend according to the script — but she can’t destroy a piece of plastic. I really don’t get what’s going on right now with Clarke. She makes no fucking sense, I’m v frustrated about it.

[bellameblake]

I swear it'll be like S7 and the writers are still gonna have clarke talking about Lxa. It's unbelievable at this point. They weren't ever in a relationship and they knew each other less than three weeks if you take out the 3 months Clarke was living in the woods alone, hating Lxa everyday because of her betrayal

I mean i’m not the biggest fan of the writers bringing her up as opposed to other characters who have died and she will probably always be brought up especially with the flame still alive and well and torturing small children 

[lightcomingthroughthedarkness]

Now I didn't think that pineapples would go as far as to spend money just to troll Bob about Bellamy and his personal life - but I'm so relieved he's having a good time chatting with sincere fans, answering questions, and spilling the tea... of course he knows fans will be sharing their video call experiences LOL I think he's spilling the tea this way as fan service and it's a dang good way to do so as opposed to a tell-all Twitter thread.

They are cowards and would never have the balls to do that.

He's being respectful and explaining how he sees things. The fact that him saying Bellarke was written romantically and that Jason told him and Eliza to act that way, is suddenly "offensive" to pineapples is hilarious. They really are the dumbest people around.

No one is saying Clarke didn't love Lxa. No one is saying CL wasn't canon. All that happened. But what also happened is Bellarke. Slow burn. Until Jason fucked up in s7. Had Bellarke happened, pineapples would have said "fan service". They never would have accepted that that was the story being told. And what's funny is, Lxa being back was fan service. ADC was back on set. Jason had the flame. He could have made Lxa transcend and given them endgame. The way Emori and Madi "died" but came back in mind drives. Again, ADC was on set!!! Yet Jason didn't do that. He had an alien wear Lxa's face, tell Clarke "I'm not her" and still pineapples are the biggest clowns around. Seeking validation from Isaiah Washington (lmaoooo) and sucking Jason's ass even though Jason used them in the end too.

They can scream endgame until they are blue in the face and they still won't understand how they were played. It's hilarious and sad. Your idol ADC made the decision to COME BACK, the FLAME was there, TRANSCENDENCE was real.. yet Clarke's ass ended up with spacekru on a beach and Lxa was an alien, not even real WHEN JASON COULD HAVE MADE IT REAR FOR YOU.

That's what Bob meant when he said he felt bad for BOTH FANDOMS. Both fandoms were played. We all recognize it in our fandom, yet CL/pineapples are busy sucking the asses of a Trump supporter and a man who used them for years, to see that. Instead they cry on twitter, harass Bob, say that they feel invalidated, say that we can't let them win, that everyone is being oh so rude to them...

Menawhile they are the biggest clowns on social media. Look in the damn mirror, you clowns. You were played too but go right ahead and suck up to Jason. 😄