#five nights at freddy's theory

[fivenightsatfridays]

Those who followed me from the Isshocon FNAF panel I'm so sorry lol I promise I am writing my theory/timeline T_T take this William I drew as an apology

[amphiptere-art]

I woke up. My brain remember this again so I need to put it down somewhere.

Little theory about the DCA. So. Everyone knows there's this weird moon / daycare section near parts and service. It's what you go into to get the security pass. So you can fix, and help Freddy after Moon kidnaps him. They're literally is this giant hallway full of fake mini daycares and tons of moon merch and posters.

Not a spic of sun. At least if we're not looking at the sunny rolling hills and rainbows. I'll go make sure to have a double check. But from my memory there's nothing sun related in that tunnel. The only thing related to Sun in those tunnels. Is the fact that it seems to be going off of the day themes of the daycare. There's only that one specific room that contains the nightmare Marion plush That seems to be specifically themed towards starry night.

So I had a question when I was playing through the section. I was technically terrified of the endows the entire time. And also having much fun breaking their AI by stepping on boxes. But. I asked myself why there would be so much moon merch Specifically in this fake daycare.

Think about it. Why have this sunny day daycare, But only have moon merch around? It's themed like it's supposed to be during the day. There's only little things that are based around night. But there's not an image of sun anywhere. Just moon. And I started to question to myself. Was moon first?

Now Moon being first could be a lot of things. It could just be moon being the original AI that was split. It could just be that moon was the first AI made before sun. It could be moon was just the one they were merchandising first, before wacky things happened with his design and model. But I find it interesting that moon might have been first. At least in merchandising. But perhaps other places.

Imagine what pieces we have under that connotation. Because I think right now. The natural thought is that moon was second. Whether you are going off of the theater theory that moon was that secret evil personality, and sun was the base. Or perhaps you're just going off of the fact that maybe Moon only came from the virus, and so he's second in that scenario too.

But like imagine this idea that moon was the original and sun wasn't. Moon was the original theater person and sun was only brought up for the daycare. Imagine if it was moon that was taken over by the virus and sun was the one pushed out of the way as like the unneeded emotions or something. Being a baby AI in those moments.

It's an interesting twist. Either way you put it. Moon has been around longer. Or at least he was supposed to. He was probably the one manufactured as a little endo in those mini daycare hallways. He was probably the one down there. Not Sun. Sun came after. Or at least wasn't present when they were making those hallways and merch. It's an interesting little add-on to remember.

[redfoxdude07]

Okay, so like

I've been sorta looking back on old fnaf recently and realized, "Hey, we never got an answer to if that was wires or hair!"

Like, is there proof it was just wires, or did Game Theory just say they were, so we all went with it? Did the Supreme guide mention it? Did any books mention it???

So I want y'alls opinions...

[ilhamiman]

FNAF Security Breach Theory (Monty's hatred towards G. Freddy and missing G. Bonnie)

Yes, I know, it's pretty late but it took me awhile to figure out (and listening to theories in YouTube) what's going on between Monty and G. Freddy. This is my take of theory of Monty towards not just G. Freddy but with G. Bonnie so no bashing me. Ok, here's what I thought.

I personally think that Monty was a completely different animatronic before he joined the Glamrock band like the OG Foxy to the OG trio. Monty was a different character and had his own personal joint so he live separately from the gang and he's fully aware of the Glamrocks but there was one point he got jealous of the Glamrocks (mainly G. Freddy) as his own golf spot wasn't getting many fans as they have. Monty eventually despise of G. Freddy cause of G. Freddy being such nice guy and very popular with the kids. Not just that, Monty craved to be on the spotlight on stage like the Glamrocks have so he looked at the Glamrocks to see who's the weakest among them and he chose G. Bonnie cause he not just see him as the weakest but also very close to G. Freddy; he wanted to give G. Freddy as much misery as he can. So, Monty watched G. Bonnie's movement and plan out how to get rid of him without alerting the STAFF bots and security guard. He lured G. Bonnie in behind his bowling alley and attacked him. Yes, I'm aware in Security Breach, G. Bonnie last seen was in Monty's Golf area but in Ruin DLC, G. Bonnie's body was found behind of G. Bonnie's bowling alley with a broken bowling bowl. I think by the time Monty started doing this, Vanny was already present and must have corrupted the system when G. Bonnie was in Monty's golf course and didn't updated his movement from there to his bowling alley. Btw, a bit sidetrack here, I heard some people theorized it was Roxy who attacked G. Bonnie cause of the green paint on the body of G. Bonnie but it's very unlikely cause she doesn't have any motivation against G. Bonnie, plus her nails may be green but if she attacked him, her nails must have chipped instead a green stain on G. Bonnie's destroyed body. So this theory is a bust, I still think it's Monty who attacked G. Bonnie cause he's the only green character and it's likely his green paint on him got on G. Bonnie's body when he attacked him. Monty's old hands must have been damaged so hard so he got a new different hands when he was in the repair room. After he done dealing with G. Bonnie, the people in Freddy Enterprise were discussing how to replace the missing G. Bonnie and they decided to have Monty as his replacement and Monty nearly got his dream on spot light but he still want to replace G. Freddy but can't touch him cause like I said G. Freddy is very popular animatronic and he's basically untouchable so he simply have to deal with it. Also, the gondola ride in Ruin DLC, before Monty become a Glamrock member, that he was "more humble and looked up at G. Bonnie" thing, yeah, I call that BS cause that's most likely a cover up story from the Freddy Enterprise of the missing G. Bonnie. Anyway, that's my theory on Monty's hatred to G. Freddy and him attacked G. Bonnie. I know I'm late in this but I don't care. Hope you enjoy reading this.

[afloofwithmultipleinterests]

So i think i found something...

[theflatpancakes]

I just thought of something cool fnaf related

What if

Instead of Mike/Micheal Afton (in my theories, he's a Schmidt/Emily/Henry's son), being Glamrock Freddy, like some people, assumed...

He was Glamrock Bonnie?

Explanation below

I'm watching the new gtlive video about the tally marks, and the foxy grid thing gave me this idea because the tally marks are in Bonnie Bowl. Mike is well known to have been scooped, and if you look at how Glamrock Bonnie was destroyed, he was destroyed in a way that looks almost as if he got scooped, but then scratched up..

Idk just something I thought of

Lemme know what y'all think about the theory

[dragbunart]

I'm wokring on a 'Vanessa Afton' Theory for a video. and wanted to do art for it Along with a fic for ya'll enjoy

Vanessa stretched, another long night of Patrolling the Pizza Plex. It felt so weird to work for Fazbear Entertainment. She had always expected to... As her siblings left this world she almost thought she'd be forced to inherit it.

She had promised to bring the photo to the... Thing claiming to be her father in the basement. He wanted proof she was 'His little Vanny'. Her father's nickname for her. She remembered the little nicknames he had come up for them. Mike or Mikey... Abby for Elizabeth. Cassie for Cassidy. Calling them his little circus collectivly..

Vanessa sighed staring at the photo she selected. It was before... Everything. Before the Divorce... And before the... The Bite.

Micheal never forgave himself before his death. She remembered him coming home, looking more awful than the night before claiming Cassidy was trying to reach him.

"I SAW it. The old Fredbear suit. It kept appearing in front of me, Ness. Cassidy was trying to tell me something. It's HER. I know it it kept saying so."

Father never forgave him either. Claiming everything was Micheal's fault. the Divorce, his STUPID prank that took Cassidy's life, for not watching Elizabeth. He claimed she had walked in on gas leaking out from Baby... But they never found her body.

He went further into his work until he disappeared, leaving instructions for Micheal to go check on something.

"I'll be right back Ness. Then we can go back to normal and cut dad out of our lifes."

But when he came back he seemed... Off. Calling her 'Vanny' like Elizabeth would occasionally. Or going out late at night looking for their father. Rarely talking to her at all before the fires.

Eventually they took his life. Leaving Vanessa all alone.

"You... You can put us back together. If you're my little Vanny, you can bring the Afton's together."

[sonicscrewdriver-hippogriff]

Five Nights at Freddy's time placement

So, I usually don't make movie theories or point out info about them (I like watching other people do it on Youtube tho) but I have been watching videos about the FNAF movie and everyone is arguing over when the movie takes place and they all find clues pointing in the direction of the 1990s but - this scene exists?

This is from when Mike is at the unemployment office (before he meets "Steve Raglan") and at the top left corner of the security camera footage it says 4/6/2000 - I am not super familiar with security cameras but that looks like an American date, right? The 6th of April, in the year 2000? It even has the exact time underneath (4:13 p.m.), so it makes sense, right?

I literally went to make this specific screenshot because I swear people keep saying that it take place in the 90s, but I caught this scene already at the cinema and wondered if I misremembered - but I didn't and it's there.

So - mystery solved, I guess?

[a-fnaf-adaptation]

The Definitive 5th kid for me & why

First of all almost all agree that in the MCI there where five kids who went missing, the fifth kid can't be neither Charlie nor "Crying child" (if you disagree with this you can straight up discard all what I will say) and that said fifth kid becomes Golden Freddy.

So now we're all in the same page I will discuss who I think personally and definitely this 5th kid is in a physical appearance aspect specifically IN THE GAMES

Why this kid?

The Golden Freddy kid was specifically cast and styled to line up with the face of the kid we see in Ultimate Custom Night (don´t have the source for this but I heard that the actor even got his hair dyed to blond specially for the role so this would clearly make it key aspect for the character he plays), the face we see in UCN is likely TOYSHK/Vengeful spirit, TOYSHK/Vengeful spirit is most likely the Golden Freddy kid and the Golden Freddy kid looks like this in the movie closing a perfect circle. The Gender of both also lines up, he could also still be named Cassidy, is a gender neutral name after all but that's besides the point

So this is in my opinion the definitive depiction of the Golden Freddy kid in the games, not Andrew and not the Cassidy from the books, and speaking of both...

Art used Credits, click here

Why not Andrew?

Do I really need to elaborate more? Fine, I will. Why whoever decided Andrew's description didn't lined it up with the UCN face when it was so easy to do so?? And what bothers me the most, why is people associating movie Golden Freddy kid with Andrew when is so hard to ignore that their looks are complete opposites? Is it really just because they both boys™? The UCN face is more debatable because the photo is highly edited I guess, but the movie kid is in our faces, it doesn't make sense and I think is driving me crazy why to this conclusion

Why not books Cassidy?

There are many physical appearances for Cassidy in the books, I specially find very annoying there are two so different from each other in the novel trilogy which just evidence that they just really didn't cared that much there, and one of them (which is also the most popular for some reason) is not even comfirmed to be Cassidy, she is also female unlike male in the games and movie.

[randomcartoonbro]

Steven Universe Fans 🤝 FNAF Fans

[omsrandom]

Aight, I have a wild FNAF Theory about Security Breach. RUIN DLC Spoilers ahead!

Yknow how we don't know the Crying Child's name? The one who got his head bit off by Fredbear? And how his ghost shares Golden Freddy/Fredbear with Cassidy?

Well, with the new DLC, we're introduced to Cassie, a friend of Gregory's.

I think it's a bit sus that a game, mainly about Freddy trying to help a child escape death and thus is considered the "golden star", has two children in it, who are close. Two children, who are both obsessed with the Freddy's franchise.

Two children, one of who's name is very similar to another named character in the series.

In the same series where we theorized Michael Afton and Mike Schmidt were the same person, and somehow it was true.

I think Cassie and Cassidy are the same. It would make sense as why, when she puts on the VANNI mask, she can hear what Gregory heard during Security Breach.

Cassidy was always vengeful, and most likely realized, like Charlette, that Michael wasn't William and went after him, dragging the Crying Child with her. I think it was confirmed that Freddy has parts from the other versions in him, which would make sense if you consider this:

Gregory wasn't real.

He was the ghost of the Crying Child that the animatronics (and Vanessa, given the VR game) could see due to the old parts (Roxy getting some of the Foxys and Monty getting Bonnie's after they found him scrapped). It explains why he's so tiny, but also why he can easily go into Freddy's holding area without much issue.

Cassidy was busy trying to find William, and once she realized CC/Gregory was in danger, she tried to go after him.

This theory is a mess, but if we try to detangle it, it does clue in on a lot of details:

Cassidy and Roxy never met!

They didn't, but as stated above, if, like Freddy, they used parts from the older animatronics, Roxy was probably Foxy! We have no idea who Cassidy's favorite animatronic was, so going on a limb and saying Freddy first, Foxy second wouldn't be a stretch. Since Foxy is now Roxy, it again makes sense that since Freddy is largely seen as a traitor to the other animatronics and out of the picture, Roxy is now the favorite.

Gregory betrays Cassie in the end!

Yes, he does. With this theory, it's CC lashing out, taking over Fredbear and leaving her alone to the hunt for William. CC is tired, and with the Mimic, he knows if it gets out, she'll keep them there until the world ends. So, he chooses peace, and disappears. To Cassidy, who shared a suit with him, it would no doubt feel like the elevator had given out. He had just betrayed her in the worst way possible to a dead 7 year old.

I probably have more to add but for now, I'm at, like, a 95% on believing this theory.

[fivenightsatfridays]

Working on a bunch of cheebs because I truly want to draw every animatronic that I can wrap my head around... I'm doing this instead of writing my theory lmao

[brooklynstrangler]

On Help Wanted 2, the Canon Order of Deaths, and How Changing Beliefs Works

Recently, one of Help Wanted 2's endings turned the fandom against itself once again by putting six dead children (the MCI + Charlie), particularly their graves, in some numerical order. The order begins with Susie, who we know to have been "the first" at least in the MCI. Charlie, who most people in the fandom still believe died before the MCI, is listed last.

This order of deaths would seem to be making reference to the already-existing-yet-controversial theory that Charlie's death takes place after the MCI, something for which I personally have always thought there was already sufficient evidence. No other explanation, to my knowledge, has been proposed for what the order could be, other than randomness (unlikely, given Susie) or the correct order of MCI victims, but the incorrect order of murders (unfounded). In other words, the most intuitive reading seems to point to Charlie dying after the MCI, but there is a unanimous cry from the fandom saying "But that's impossible! Look at Henry's insanity ending speech. Look at Into the Pit. Look at FNaF 4."

I've been in this position before, so I want to talk to the people who are currently in that position in regards to Charlie-post-MCI.

There are two parts to switching beliefs, if you believe your belief is the only possible one. You have to see evidence of the other belief, of course, but you also -- and this is an underrated step -- must understand the other side's explanations for the evidence for the thing you currently believe.

When people from the other side try to explain things, like, for instance, Henry's insanity speech, your instinct will likely be to dismiss them because they're on That Side and you're on This Side, and this is how the debate works. But not anymore. You have to ask yourself "If I were to believe that Charlie died after the MCI, what would I believe this line to mean?" and be accepting or open-minded of the answers that are provided to you.

This might sound condescending but I tend to explain things really slowly and often people still don't get them. I try.

Basically, you have to actually want to understand the other side -- maybe not necessarily believe what you want to believe, but have a desire to see both perspectives -- because if you react with hostility to a viewpoint that challenges yours, you're going to be stuck in this dilemma forever. And you won't be able to solve that sweet sweet FNaF lore, which is definitely the only place this post's advice applies.

[journalofmycrazymind]

What is there is two Fredbear and Spring Bonnie like a pair a Fredbear's dinner and a pair at Freddy's pizza. From what we cold tell from the cartoon in FNAF 4 the main animatronics a Freddy's (Freddy, Bonnie, Foxy, and Chica[plus the puppet since I bleave that it was induced to the public at a Freddy's] ) are introduced to the public as Fredbear's friends. Plus it would make more since for no one to bat an eye at someone wearing and interacting with kids in a Spring Bonnie suit if there was one already there and employees are expected to wear it and interreact with the kids at times. This is proven in fnaf 3's audio training cassettes you listen to. (See night 2 phone call) Phone guy in the training tape says this tape is for performer/entertainer of Freddy Fazbear's Pizza not Fazbear's Family Dinner yet he still talks about spring lock suits. I know you can just wave that off that this is later and Fazbear's shut down but they are using it a Freddy's but that doesn't make since to me. Why would they continue to use two character's that now have a bad reputation to them due to the incident (most likely the bit of 67) that cause Fazbear's to shut down. Plus in that same tape he talks about how the spring locks in animatronic mode follows sound cues meaning that they might be more advance then the ones at Fazbear's since the only time we see the spring locks off stage there are when they are in suit mode in the fnaf 4 minigames.

[afloofwithmultipleinterests]

I think i know what's in the box.

So... as of recently, Dawko did another interview with scott cawthon, a Scott Cawthon interview 2.0 here To celebrate the tenth anniversary of FNAF, Scott decided to... 'reveal' what was in the box. It seems like it was a gag, right? something to dangle infront of the fandom and then SNATCH it away, yeah? ... i don't think so. you see... i decided to take a closer listen to it... and the point where scott is cut off with a 'connection lost', there IS indeed still SOMETHING being said there. I repeated it over and over, replaying it and replaying it... when i recognized that the last part may have very well been saying 'Bear'. after i realized that... my mind jumped to FAZBEAR.

listened to it again.... it would fit. syllables and all. FAZBEAR is in that box... meaning that the company of Fazbear.... William afton, Henry, Charolette Emily, The crying child, and whoever else has ever existed in the fnaf universe.... doesn't exist. Nothing of that universe is real despite us seeing it... The dead children aren't dead. The serial killer who killed them is purely a vessel for us to use as entertainment upon false slaughtered souls. I think that scott cawthon is being beyond meta.. is pulling a twin peaks, an Undertale. If Fazbear is inside of the box... metaphorically, something in that box wants outside of the box. something in that box wants to be apart of OUR WORLD because it's... 'real'. Something is trying to connect with us from the digital plane.. trying to grab our attention and implant itself into our minds because it knows its merely an idea. a creation, and the only way for it to survive is to be apart of our memories.

[wally-lake]

*Markiplier voice* WAS THAT THE BITE OF 87!?!?!?

Dunno wanted to draw how Michael + his friends/the bullies reacted after the chomp.

what a day that must've been for those kids