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So you know how Mirkwood teamed up Lothlorien during lotr? Imagine after that battle's over one of the mirkwood elves is just like "man, I'm fucking STARVING after all that" then just sits down and cuts a piece from an orc's arm before popping it in their mouth. To the horror and concern of the Lothlorien elves, the elf actually swallows it like it's nothing. Then the rest of the mirkwood army proceeds to follow their lead and do the same thing.
Celeborn looks over at Thranduil like "you seeing this?"
But Thranduil just says with a slightly disappointed tone, "they couldn't even wait to season it. Or at least roast it, like damn- at least set up a fire!"
Thranduil immediately rushes off to order everyone to to set up proper camp and fires, and while some elves do whine about it, they comply bc this might be the last time some of them get to eat orc now that sauron is gone so they gotta savor it.
When asked by celeborn, thranduil replies with: “do you have any idea how hard it is to get supplies when you’ve been under siege, essentially, for millennia? Letting dead orcs rot is a waste of meat and at least this way that bastard can’t use their corpses for whatever necromancer magic he wants. Besides, orcs and spider and wargs routinely want to eat us. I don’t see why we shouldn’t eat them right back.”
Of course some lothloriens complain about it UNTILL some of the silvans from lothlorien join in with their mirkwood brothers and sisters bc, while they’ve relinquished most of their silvan culture under the rule of galadriel, they do still remember that in the past they used to chomp down on orc meat bc why not?
Soon the atmosphere turns almost festive as pots and pans and spices are brought out and fires are started and everyone is celebrating their victory and the silvans are trying to convince the lothloriens to take a piece (some do and some dont). Either way, it’ll certainly be a story that gets passed around once the elves reach valinor. How the silvans turned the tables on sauron by not only defying him but also eating his soldiers right back.
Silvan: wait until we tell them we used to eat balrog during the first age before they became extinct.
Legolas is hundred of miles away and lowkey pissed he couldn’t attend this impromptu party. He also stealthily took some chunks of meat from the orcs after his own battle bc if there’s one thing he learned, it’s that humans don’t react well to perceived canabalism.
#silvans eat orcs#silvans are arguably cannibals#feral silvans au#lord of the rings#lotr#lotr elves#silmarillion#the hobbit#legolas#thranduil#silvans#mirkwood
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Thranduil, to legolas: When you turn 50, people are going to tell you to buy alcohol and drugs because you can.
Thranduil: But no. You know what else is legal at 50? Blades. Get yourself a sword. A big knife is also okay.
Thranduil: Also, don’t wait until you’re 50 to drink. Those laws are more like... guidelines!
#lord of the rings#silmarillion#lotr#the hobbit#thranduil#lotr elves#legolas#mirkwood#greenwood the great#silvans#trans thranduil#incorrect tolkien quotes#incorrect lotr quotes#drinking age limit? thranduil’s never heard of it.#feral silvans au
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In Valinor the last of the mortal fellowship has just been buried.
After the funeral:
Glorfindel: where’s legolas?
Elrond: let him be, he is grieving.
Meanwhile:
Legolas, already sailing away from valinor: My dad always told me to never walk into a cage without a way out.
#lord of the rings#silmarillion#lotr#thranduil#legolas#mirkwood#the hobbit#greenwood the great#lotr elves#silvans#shamelessly pushing my ‘miriel and thranduil are twins agenda’#feral silvans au#what? did you think legolas would stay?#he staisfied the sea longing by sailing#now he’s going back home#hc that the silvans absolutely have a way back to middle earth from valinor bc they did not concent to being stuck there thank you
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I'm dying XD
Glorfindel after killing the balrog, dying with said balrog and coming back because the valar thought it was cool:
Silvans: first time, eh?
OR OR
Some random Silvan: oh, so I kill two and no other elf bats an eye, but WHEN GLORFINDEL DOES IT SUDDENLY HE'S THE ALMIGHTY ONE, EH?! I'm sensing some favoritism-bullshit here.
All the silvans protesting how they’re left out of history (other than the necessities where the historians don’t get away with erasing them) bc they don’t care for the valar and the sailed elves’ opinions one bit: HELLOOOO??? WHY ARE YOU ONLY PORTRAYING OUR FAILURES??? WE FIGHT MORGOTH AND SAURON HEAD ON FOR MILLENIA AND THIS IS THE THANKS WE GET??
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Glorfindel: - so that’s why I got chosen by the valar to come back in the time of need.
Silvans, who’ve been fighting balrogs regularly during the years of the trees and 1st age: wow, weak sauce.
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Noldor elf: and that’s why we don’t trust the feanorians
Silvan: see, what I don’t understand is: we can’t die. Like, we literally cannot do that. So why are you so pressed about a little massacre? It spices life up a bit.
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Silvans in valinor:
Silvan 1: which one would hurt more: being cut in half vertically or horizontally?
Silvan 2: I don’t know, but let’s find out-
The valar: No KiNsLaYiNg
Silvans: ok, but this is like, consensual murder. Murder with benefits, if you will.
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In valinor:
Silvan 1: *about to drink poison*
Silvan 2: what are you doing?
Silvan 1: can’t sleep, so I thought I’d take a spiritual trip to the halls to catch some rest.
Silvan 2: can I use your body in an experiment once you’ve passed on?
Silvan 1: yeah go ahead.
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Noldor, teleri, vanyar, sindar: life is sacred
Silvans: *cackling in the distance*
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Thranduil, in the first age watching all these baby elves who could be his grand kids take offence over literally everything: jfc, what did the valar do to them. Did they loose their common sense???
Lasgen, his daughter and eldest: don’t ask me. I don’t get why they’re so worked up over a bit of murder. And very clearly goaled murder with forewarning at that!
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This has turned into another incorrect quotes for my feral silvans au
#lord of the rings#silmarillion#lotr#thranduil#legolas#the hobbit#mirkwood#greenwood the great#lotr elves#shamelessly pushing my ‘miriel and thranduil are twins’ agenda#feral silvans au#incorrect tolkien quotes#incorrect lotr quotes#thranduil has 4 kids that he gave birth to#he’s trans your honor#lasgen is his oldest having been born during the years of the trees#and is the only one who actually met Miriel#Legolas is the youngest#but don’t mistake him being the youngest for him being the weakest#silvans don’t understand the other elves’ hang ups to dying#and the valar hate them for it#shamelessly pushing my ‘miriel and thranduil are twins agenda’
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When silvans swear an oath, they swear by the seas, the sky, and the earth.
For them the seas, sky, and earth are unbiased.
Remember, silvans (in my au) don’t worship the valar or even really care about them. They have their own gods and believes.
And one thing that’s important to note is that they only have gods based on concepts of a sort.
They have gods for love, war, curiosity, sadness, grief, the outcasts, etc, etc.
They don’t have gods for the seas and the sky and the earth.
And the reason behind that is that silvans think the earth, sky, and seas are entities onto themselves.
They are not concepts, there is no belief or disbelief in them, they just are.
And this makes them prime entities to swear an oath on because the earth, sky and seas are unbiased. They aren’t influenced by their own existence in the way a god of love or war would be. For the earth, sky, and seas things just are. They don’t have to fight for acknowledgment because who’s going to forget that they exist?
So when it comes to oaths? The silvans swear by them bc their judgement will always be unbiased.
Just to clarify, the earth, sky, and seas are all entities, they have a consciousness, they are aware, but they aren’t humanoid, they don’t have names, they aren’t gods or representations of something, they just are. And in a way, it makes them the most powerful of all the beings the silvans pay patronage to.
#lord of the rings#lotr#silmarillion#the hobbit#lotr elves#thranduil#legolas#mirkwood#silvans#greenwood the great#the silvans have their own belief system#silvans don’t care about the valar#the earth sky and seas are equally worshiped and feared by the silvans#the big three without being THE BIG THREE#feral silvans au#honestly this belief system also extends to the avari#mostly
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Elves: Feanor and his sons were the most hectic and problamatic of all elves. They were always ready to jump at sm1’s throat, and they never restrain themselves. Nothing has ever come close to the raging inferno that is feanor when he thinks you owe him something.
Feanor’s maternal family: Hold my fucking wine.
#feanor’s maternal family: *blows up a city*#feanor and his kids are considered the mild side of the spice spectrum that are the Therindes#lord of the rings#lotr#silmarillion#lotr elves#the hobbit#incorrect tolkien quotes#silm incorrect quotes#incorrect lotr quotes#feanor#feanorians#miriel therinde#miriel is feral#4 silvan sibs au
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Honestly, i can just imagine legolas being in imlardis and, you know, he’s vibing, he’s chilling, he’s teaching a cool sword move to Arwen
Untill someone says smth along the lines of “elleths can’t/shouldn’t fight”
And he just:
Legolas: ya’ll know that the first ever elf, and i mean back at lake cuivienen, not feanor’s rediscovery, to forge a sword, to creat one is an elleth, right? Like, that’s not a secret.
Sexist: *splutters* p-proove it.
Legolas: well, for one said elleth is still alive and kickong and vicious to boot. For another, ask literally any elf that was an adult back then and they’ll tell you the exact same thing, and 3rd. Said elleth’s bloodline has consistently produced battle maniac elleths who are on the short list not to fuck with.
Legolas: like i said, it’s common knowledge. It’s not my problem if you didn’t so much as ask.
Legolas: you know it’s even more ironic that you aparently don’t know bc said elleth is Miriel Therinde’s mother, and is most known for her Hinryo Muta Swords, and for her contribution to the Goko’li weapons.
Arwen: …. Wait, you said that all the elleth’s fem ofspring are battle maniacs-
Legolas: like i said: it’s really not my fault if ya don’t do basic research.
#lord of the rings#lotr#silmarillion#the hobbit#lotr elves#legolas#Miriel#cloudryad#4 silvan sibs au#miriel is feral#is this just an excuse to write exposition about my au? yeah#silm incorrect quotes#incorrect lotr quotes#incorrect tolkien quotes#incorrect hobbit quotes
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Going back to the post about Muriel and finwe fighting to the death (but not really). Do you have more headcanon about how they would react when they meet once again. Also I personally feel like Muriel would drag indis by the hair for how she tried to take finwe away from her and how she treated feanor.
Also I was also wondering if you had any ideas on how Muriel and feanor would be once they meet each other. I feel like she would be proud and disappointed at the same fime. She would so probably love her grandchildren.
So, obligatory disclaimer: this is specifically about my au
Miriel would just show up out of the blue. No fanfare, no announcement, just one seconds she’s there. You know what? Maybe Miriel’s already swinging her blade at him.
And the moment Finwe notices her, notices that she’s here, in front of him, alive? It’s as if color returned to him.
These 2 haven’t seen each other in millenia, that is a lot of pent up emotions (and don’t get me wrong, they are angry at each other as well for what happened) and they just go at it. No explenation, no nothing. They’re going feral on each other. Maybe they’re also cursing each other out/flirting while their at it.
Everyone who did not know their dynamics is really concerned and baffled.
It’s not a short or small fight either. They’re going at it for hours, days even, and so mich crap gets destroyed in the process. Entire rooms have been layed to waste and they’re covered in blood by the end of it.
And then they fuck.
Luckily, no one’s around by the time it gets to that point.
But it’s really animalistic, feral, raw in a way the elves have forgotten.
In regards to Miriel and Indis:
Here’s the thing, their families had a bit of a lowkey fued going on since the lake (please see other posts i’ve made on this au) but this takes the cake. It does not help that indis is a bit of a bitch (and Miriel’s still lowkey highkey pissed at finwe’s enabling of her behavior)
Have you seen the mdzs donghua, specifically the scene where madam you humiliates and slaps the shit out of yoayoa? Yeah, miriel is dragging indis through the metaphorical and literal dirt. And indis is pissed too bc she did not want miriel to come back at all. Miriel doesn’t comment on finwe’s other kids though bc she’s not gonna torment the child for the sins of the parents.
It should be noted that Miriel herself has a good number of supporters as well that went more or less dormant when she died, but the moment she’s back up and running? Ho boy, her supporters are tearing through the throats of the indis supporters like starving dogs. (Not literally).
Here’s the thing about feanor and miriel’s reunion:
Miriel’s very aware that she wasn’t there to raise feanor and that she doesn’t really know how to mom as a result, so while she’s very eager to hug the crap out of her baby, she’s also pretty blunt in saying “hey, ngl, idk how to do this, so i’ll probably mess up a lot, and i’ll probably not be the mom you expect me to be (especially with the “Miriel was only a weaver propaganda shoved down everyone’s throats 😒”) but no matter what, know that i love you, and know that i will try my best to be the mom you always should have had.
I don’t feel like (this au) Miriel would actually be that disappointed. I mean she’s no angel either. But furthermore, she gets it. Does she approve of some of feanor’s erratic actions? No. But she’s intimately familiar with the drive and passion that caused it. In all honesty, she’s just sad it happened the way it did. She’s obviously very proud of her bby i mean look at him! LOOK AT HIM!
N e way, yeah Miriel loves her grandkids.
She’s actually staying with feanor right now to 1. Repair their relationship, and 2. She’s reading finwe the riot act, he needs to do some serious groveling before she gets back with him (even though they already fucked kissed)
Of course then there’s the drama of indis and her family, and Miriel lowkey gets it (i mean who would want to be kicked out of the life they’ve been living for millenia?) but also, indis poisened her when she was pregnant with feanor and she had to give her life’s essence to keep him alive to give birth to him, that and some other factors are what resulted in her death in the first place so….🖕.
Also Indis(who is ingwe’s sister in this au)’s dad is still lowkey obseessed with Miriel’s brother so she’s just NOT in the mood to sympathize with her.
And of course Miriel’s dad, who’s the only one with her bc he’s the only one who got killed and went to the halls (since none of miriel’s other family went with her on the great journey) (L), is absolutly delighting at the chance to “clean house” (aka: beat up his SIL, his mistress and said mistress’s family, as well as exterminated any and everyone in the way of his kid’s happiness.)
All in all, Miriel’s come back is simultaneously really bloody and also pretty straight forward.
(Also, Ingwe shows up half way through the brawl and is just cheering his aunt on)
#lord of the rings#lotr#silmarillion#lotr elves#miriel#finwe#indis ig#feanor#miriel x finwe#miriel is feral#answered asks#shamelessly pushing my ‘miriel and thranduil are twins agenda’#4 silvan sibs au#oropher is miriel’s dad btw#and he’s pissed
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Since Miriel and Finwe’s reunion is with everybody alive, are the conditions for marriage and being reembodied different in your au?
I guess you could say so? As you can probably tell, my au isn’t very canon accurate (which is fair, it’s not my intention to be).
In this au the whole miriel-finwe-indis remarraige drama basicaly stems from the idea that the valar need indis to have her kids in order to follow Eru’s plan.
Elven marraige in general in this au is a lot more chill(?) than in canon. Bc the elves are immortal and, while there are elves that get married and stay married for the rest of time, it would make more sense for divorce and such to be more common bc noone stays the same for millenia at a time, and just bc a marraige ends, doesn’t mean it’s failed.
Furthermore, i really enjoy the idea that, bc of what i just mentioned, there are different types of marraige. A more casual type, a marriage of convenience type, a very serious type, etc.
The one finwe and miriel had was pretty much the most serious one an elf could have, basically they swore to be together for the rest of time and in doing so essentially melded their souls. They’re still different people, but their souls are so intertwined that you literally can’t separate them. On one hand, it means that if one gets hurt, the other does too (hence finwe loosing a good chunk of himself when miriel passed and becoming somewhat of an apathetic father) but on the other hand it also helps keep each other alive bc through this bond they split the pain and injuries, essentially.
Finwe and indis’s marraige is more politcal (at least on finwe’s side) he needed a mother for feanor and needed to quell the unrest and indis was oh so willing (yeah, so maybe finwe is a lot more manipulative than most people realize). But bc miriel was for all intents and purposes dead, he lacked a lot of the empathy that would have made him a better father so….
The vow finwe and indis made is less serious (relativly) than the one between finwe and miriel, and valar approved.
Interestedly enough, finwe and miriel actually married before they got to valinor, so their vows weren’t blessed by the valar, so to say. They vowed to each other and to the beings they worshiped. They vowed on the earth, sea, and sky (which are the entities that the cuivienen elves respected, silvan and avari elves still swear on these enteries instead of the valar).
This actually caused a bit of a loop hole bc the valar, due to not being the ones to bless/recognize their union, don’t actually have any jurisdiction in regards to finwe and miriel’s marraige, and technically finwe and miriel’s marraige doesn’t actually intersect with finwe and indis’s. This is also a factor as to why finwe could be married to both elleths at the same time. (For context, polyamorous marraiges still work in this au bc the marraige vowa include all (possible) partners, where as finwe and miriel’s marraige is entirely seperate from finwe and indis’s marraige)
Basically, it’s a lot of technicalities and red tape that’s keeping everything running.
#lord of the rings#lotr#silmarillion#the hobbit#lotr elves#finwe#miriel#indis#miriel is feral#4 silvan sibs au#answered asks#ask me anything#anon ask
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Thranduil is Miriel’s brother and it changes nothing but it’s funny af (not-canon)
Idk man, i personally think that the idea of Thranduil being Miriel’s brother would be hilarious bc everyone sees these noldor kinslaying monsters and screams bloodymurder, but Thranduil looks at what is his nephew and grandnephew and goes “goddamn it Miriel, they had to get your personality”
When Oropher gets re-embodied in Valinor alongside Finwe he will spend entire meetings glaring bloody murder at Finwe for Miriel’s predicament, much to everyone’s confusion.
Finwe: making my way down town, walking fast-
Messenger: Your Majesty, King Oropher’s here to see you!
Finwe: walking faster
Oropher: Finwe!!
Finwe: -fucking sprinting!!
The Noldor of Valinor get to spectate as their high king is running full speed away from this feral silvan king while screaming bloody murder.
What, you thought Feanor got his attitude from Finwe? No way, that was all Miriel.
(PS, this is all in an AU where Oropher is a silvan, and thus was not in Doriath or in Beriland at all when the first age shit went down, (though he feels the need to point out that, just bc they weren’t involved with the noldor drama, that doesn’t mean they didn’t fight against Morgoth, they were just not geographically close enough to be apart of the armies in Beriland)
Oropher, Thranduil, Legolas and other family and friends would all know, but they’re all collectively ignoring the Feanorian mess bc that bunch has been labeled “the insane half of the family” (completely ignoring their own feralness, as you do)
But, can you imagine:
Elrond: -look, they might have kidnapped me and Elros, but they were the best parents anyone could ask for-
Thranduil, drowning in his wine to hide his expresion: hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
#oropher#thranduil#legolas#lotr#lord of the rings#silmarillion#headcanon#not-canon#noldor#miriel#why did it take so long to tag that?#feanor#sons of feanor#finwe#he’ v scared of oropher and thranduil#and is very happy thranduil has decided to stay in middle-earth#give miriel a personality 2023#she’ feral your honor#where do you think feanor gets it from?#family#they piss you off sometimes but they exist#is that all?#that’s all#oh yes#elrond
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I love all of this. Waste not, want not 😄
So you know how Mirkwood teamed up Lothlorien during lotr? Imagine after that battle's over one of the mirkwood elves is just like "man, I'm fucking STARVING after all that" then just sits down and cuts a piece from an orc's arm before popping it in their mouth. To the horror and concern of the Lothlorien elves, the elf actually swallows it like it's nothing. Then the rest of the mirkwood army proceeds to follow their lead and do the same thing.
Celeborn looks over at Thranduil like "you seeing this?"
But Thranduil just says with a slightly disappointed tone, "they couldn't even wait to season it. Or at least roast it, like damn- at least set up a fire!"
Thranduil immediately rushes off to order everyone to to set up proper camp and fires, and while some elves do whin about it, they comply bc this might be the last time some of them get to eat orc now that sauron is gone so they gotta savor is.
When asked by celeborn, thranduil replies with: “do you have any idea how hard it is to get supplies when you’ve been under siege, essentially, for millennia? Letting dead orcs rot is a waste of meat and at least this way that bastard can’t use their corpses for whatever necromancer magic he wants. Besides, orcs and spider and wargs routinely want to eat us. I don’t see why we shouldn’t eat them right back.”
Of course some lothloriens complain about it UNTILL some of the silvans from lothlorien join in with their mirkwood brothers and sisters bc, while they’ve relinquished most of their silvan culture under the rule of galadriel, they do still remember that in the past they used to chomp down on orc meat bc why not?
Soon the atmosphere turns almost festive as pots and pans and spices are brought out and fires are started and everyone is celebrating their victory and the silvans are trying to convince the lothloriens to take a piece (some do and some dont). Either way, it’ll certainly be a story that gets passed around once the elves reach valinor. How the silvans turned the tables on sauron by not only defying him but also eating his soldiers right back.
Silvan: wait until we tell them we used to eat balrog during the first age before they became extinct.
Legolas is hundred of miles away and lowkey pissed he couldn’t attend this impromptu party. He also stealthily took some chunks of meat from the orcs after his own battle bc if there’s one thing he learned, it’s that humans don’t react well to perceived canabalism.
#silvans eat orcs#feral silvans au#lord of the rings#lotr#lotr elves#the hobbit#legolas#thranduil#silvans#mirkwood#celeborn
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